In the early 80s I bought an MG metro turbo. The instructions said “ do not drive away with a cold engine for 15 seconds. When you arrive home leave the engine idling for 15 seconds. Failure to follow these procedures will shorten turbo life”. I have followed this routine with every turbo car that I have owned and never had a turbo fail.
@TommyTucker05 ай бұрын
same here with my 80's Renault 5GT Turbo
@EscapeToVictoryNow5 ай бұрын
@@TommyTucker0 just want to ask , with Morden turbos , how much idling time is required before I start driving ? should I idle every time before I start giving the accelerator? Even short trips like the supermarket or grocery stores ?
@ethanwasme43075 ай бұрын
@@EscapeToVictoryNow it's not needed with modern turbos, that's why you never see turbo timer mods anymore...
@keisuketakahasi45845 ай бұрын
@@EscapeToVictoryNow 10-15 secs is fine, you wont waste much fuel. there is no need for idling 30+ secs like some tell you to very interesting: i used to own a mazda 3 and after an oil change (with no oil in the filter pre filled) the oil light would stay on for only about 5-7 secs, so i guess you might also get away with 5 secs but if you want to be sure take 15 secs. in the handbook of a pulsar they tell you to wait for 30 secs however.
@matthewnicholas63655 ай бұрын
@@ethanwasme4307 nonsense. Plenty of modern cars are seeing turbo failure within a few tens of thousands of miles. Every engine should be treated with mechanical sympathy, but a huge no no is to thrash a turbo with cold oil or shut off a turbo engine before the oil temp has levelled back out. If your turbo is really hot after a sesh and you turn the engine off, it'll suddenly have no oil or coolant flowing through and you will shorten the life of it. I actually feel the modern generation have lost the knowledge 80s and 90s turbo owners accrued.
@peteramos60816 ай бұрын
Turn off stop start immediately.
@sean.d71715 ай бұрын
@@peteramos6081 not if it's watercooled ball-bearing they new very little oil to avoid damage.
@lihlesasa62365 ай бұрын
That is a Machanical feature. The System knows when to shut the engine and when not to. When driven fast it wont shut the engind because the preasure is high in the engine but when driven slow and economically it switches off because you were driving slow and the preasure is low in the engine
@Maynardd5 ай бұрын
I hate that feature! It should be in reverse. It should never be on unless I turn it on.
@thosetwodudes5 ай бұрын
No problem in a manual
@dregonskreper76095 ай бұрын
All good got a manual
@rockkstah25506 ай бұрын
With so many manufacturers putting turbos on small liter engines, educating the masses is needed cause this is where the industry is heading.
@Bizmyurt5 ай бұрын
Is? Has been there for a long time now.
@acedikson26905 ай бұрын
@@Bizmyurthe meant to say it’s mostly heading there now as is. It’s been there but it was not in every car but now almost everything is coming with it. Even working trucks so
@zdenekkindl27785 ай бұрын
Most drivers do not care about these things. They buy new car every couple of years. Cars and gasoline are cheap, tires are given away free. Just come to Calgary, Alberta and see it for yourself!
@keisuketakahasi45845 ай бұрын
a lot of people just lease or buy cars for 3 years and buy a new (or almost new, like 1-3 years old) one after that
@rogeruk42914 ай бұрын
At last someone who knows what they are talking about 👍🏻👏🇬🇧
@steveolive99913 ай бұрын
1. Oil change intervals. 2. Gradual acceleration instead of flooring the accelerator. 3. Allow engine oil to warm up before driving. 4. Avoid lugging the engine (a load at low RPMS). 5. Allow the engine to cool down before turning it off.
@lloydsharman36710 күн бұрын
...that's what he said! ???
@Keith-e5f11 сағат бұрын
@@lloydsharman367yes
@Spanede11 ай бұрын
One more tip if I may, change your engine filter or at least check it frequently and make sure it is clean. Turbos suck in a lot of air compared to naturally aspirated engines.
@robertveronese44059 ай бұрын
Air filter
@aribibakio19629 ай бұрын
Is it okay to use a turbo charged cars in temperate climate arears?
@Doonie3108 ай бұрын
Engine filter 😂😂
@AJ566 ай бұрын
Air filter, or you meant oil filter?
@markschneider39156 ай бұрын
@@aribibakio1962 Better than extremely cold climates. Between turbo chargers and direct injection, these engines need to be run until warm or you'll get gasoline contamination in your oil. The Honda 1.5 engines in Accords, and CR-V's have had a lot of issues in Canada, and the colder states with this. Short trips kill these engines.
@JusCals Жыл бұрын
Also if you are cornering hard and do not have any oil sump modifications, it is possible the oil pick up can suck a little air due to the slosh of oil from side to side. Starving the turbo momentarily can cause failure or excessive bearing wear. Also do not leave the car at idle for cool down for too long, you will end up with the oppisite effect where the turbo starts heat sinking from the engine that now has zero air running over and around it. These thigs I mention are from experience only, I am not a mechanic but I did get 252,000 kms out of my 04 xt forester turbo because I look after it using pretty much what is mentioned in this vid and being mindfull of the things I mentioned.
@WorthlessNickores10 ай бұрын
I have a 2004 Passat 1.8T 4motion 5 speed manual. I always let it idle at cold start until the idle settles down to 840 rpm which usually takes about 45 seconds to a minute and a half or so. I always let it idle for a minute before turning it off after hard driving. I ALWAYS ALWAYS change my oil at 4000 miles NOT 5000 or at 6 months whichever comes first. I ONLY use Shell premium non ethanol gas. I make sure my PCV system is in good working order. I only use Castrol synthetic 5w40 oil for European cars. Make sure my air filter is clean and here's two other things everyone needs to do: Clean your MAF sensor and clean your throttle body. Yes of course I do ALL of my own work.
@garyparker22626 ай бұрын
Sensible precautions on a VW engine. At least you might possibly delay the onset of problems
@kevinhawley9625 ай бұрын
5k miles aint going to hurt shit ive been doing 5k miles oil changes on my a4 b6 quattro and it does just fine ....... FYI 1,8T 20v
@paultruesdale76805 ай бұрын
Beautiful engine and driveline. Just keep looking after it and you’ll see 300000 miles easy.
@peterpanini965 ай бұрын
Yeah that is good you pay more for fuel long run... 😂
@jmi59695 ай бұрын
@@garyparker2262 Are they really this bad in the US or is it just the price of petrol in place of diesel? The manual for my diesel VW prescribes oil changes once in 30,000 km - perhaps too optimistic, so I change it once a year and the flushed oil is still (almost) transparent. There injection units need a cleanup after 16 years, but otherwise the engine will outlive the car and myself. These ancient motors easily make 300,000 on much heavier LCVs with next-to-nothing maintenance.
@gregorysmith1778 ай бұрын
Yes. The silly stop start has been disconnected.
@johnjackson23495 ай бұрын
@@gregorysmith177 modern engines have been designed with this in mind, when they shut off they are at top dead centre to easily start again, also in most cases the systems switch off on their own if its unsafe to do so, for example my mk4 focus st stops switching off if it's not warm or requires power for a/c. After a longer journey it's more keen to stop start because everything is as it should be
@RaptorFPV4 ай бұрын
@@johnjackson2349 If you would have oil pressure BEFORE the engine starts, it would help a lot... The other question is, how much gasoline do you really safe that way, and how much stress all the stops and starts put on the motor over the years? (equation: gasoline saving vs "maintenance" costs of the stop/start system over time [motor wear]). Cheers
@PonderingOne4 ай бұрын
@@johnjackson2349 What? There are 4 cylinders in your car. Which one is at TDC in your scenario? The auto start/stop control system may keep the engine running if the battery isn’t fully charged, but is not monitoring oil temp and determining that the turbo won’t cook if it shuts down to save a few cents.
@rambo4war Жыл бұрын
I bought a 3.0L TDI @ 130k (miles) previous owner had the Turbo replaced at 95K. Been driving it for a while and I find that I need to add about 300 ML of oil a month w/ a mix of spirited/normal driving. I could see it starving for oil as the owner changed it @ 10K religiously. I have conducted the changes every 5k mile intervals thus far.....zero issues thus far and I always dump a high quality additive into the diesel fuel. They only sell one grade in the states and thats "crap" cant find anything useful at any gas station. Great info.
@torquecars4 ай бұрын
I've actually had an interesting issue with the newer 3.0 Tdi, the variable flow oil pump leads to poor lubrication if you keep the engine at low rpms for long periods, which leads to excessive wear. It's resulted in an engine seizing up and one burning oil. I think there is an ECU fix to run the oil at a higher pressure but when I've got to the bottom of it all I'll do a video on it. There are so many opinions and suggestions it's hard sifting through them all to get to the root of the matter.
@milosobrenovic59117 күн бұрын
Sehr schön und verständlich erklärt. Vor allem das Fahren im hohen Gang bei niedriger Drehzahl eine sehr hohe Last erzeugt, ist vielen Autofahrern nicht bekannt. 👍
@kar4tube Жыл бұрын
Exactly spot on tips! Thank you for breaking it down so elegantly.
@marpag1232 ай бұрын
Excellent advice- So Number 1. Always start in 2nd gear Then Number 2. don't change gear as this will add wear to the gearbox Number 3. Use plenty of revs as this will circulate the oil and water properly , try to keep the engine at the red line as this is the optimum design revs. Number 4. Never let the engine idle as this will destroy the engine Such simple advice, Cheers.
@greatestnitemare662622 күн бұрын
lmao take this down. Some poor soul will think you're serious
@Stehan12585 ай бұрын
Ive been struggling to find good TDI videos for 2 years... Finally, now I found your channel.... Answers ALL my questions
@hisownman5 ай бұрын
Its an amazing channel. I also love it.
@torquecars4 ай бұрын
Cheers buddy, you've made my day with that comment, I'll be sure to drop some more diesel content for you.
@ferrari5409 Жыл бұрын
How about start - stop systems in turbo charched engines? There is no cooling time fot the turbo in that case. I hope for a answer. Thx
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
Start stop can be manually turned off. I rarely find I go from spirited drive to a dead stop in most areas I've driven traffic tends to slow up, hence allowing the turbo to cool a little. Many stop start systems only cut in when the engine temp is right and prevent a continual stop start in traffic, some however do not it depends how clever they are and how well setup they are. Being aware of the potential issue at least gives us a chance as a driver to make an informed decision with regards to using stop start. Personally I switch off stop start unless I'm driving in urban areas with heavy traffic because I feel it is an annoying pain.
@spidergoose8918 ай бұрын
Most people screw up the engine warm up. It doesn't need to idle for more than 30 seconds. Just take it easy on the throttle until you reach operating temperature.
@edgefinesse47007 ай бұрын
Hi so 30 sec is good enough along with gentle easy driving starting out? What about the cool down do you think if you were driving normal is cool down neccassary
@buckshotaaa6 ай бұрын
Not really, if you've been taking it easy for the last mile or so after a spirited drive, that should have let the engine temp drop to a safe level negating the need to idle it prior to shutting it off.
@scrambler69-xk3kv5 ай бұрын
My problem is when I pull out in the morning, it never fails seems like I always get some ass in a pickup come flying up on me and they want to shove me down the road.so it makes it hard to drive gently until your vehicle warms up. Miss the days of people wanting space between their vehicle and yours, Now, they can't get close enough. Just assuming everything will be as it is supposed to be and then when the vehicle in front of you is forced to slow dramatically very quickly or even emergency stop it is a multi- vehicle accident.
@markr.19845 ай бұрын
You are correct. My Honda Civic uses 0-20 weight oil and so it's like water even on a cold winter morning. I drive off with very little warm up but don't exactly drag race my car, I drive off and accelerate gently.
@billcollins67055 ай бұрын
Oil changes are the key to engine longevity. Labouring an engine can do as much damage as revving the guts out of it. Drive the engine moderately until it has warmed up, and likewise if you've been using it hard and then pull in, let the engine tick over for a minute to let everything spool down and cool down. I'm driving 40+ years and these were all guidelines for turbo engines back then.
@louisvl10 Жыл бұрын
about the throttle, i get that in a somewhat decently powerful car and up. but what about my renault kangoo that barely has 60hp? i usually floor it when leaving roundabouts and such...
@stanthesteelguitarman82283 ай бұрын
This is just good, old fashioned driving, like we used to do in the old days! Be gentle until the engine warms up and use the gears - that's what they are there for, and never let the engine labour, especially on a gradient, even though the turbo will give added power at lower revs. Great video, showing how any vehicle should be driven, as well as with a turbo engine.
@buckshotaaa3 ай бұрын
My Mazda3 diesel 2.2 has a fast idle @ 1600 rpm for about 20 seconds from a cold start up. just enough time to fasten my seat belt. When the revs drop to normal tick-over i proceed to drive away changing up at around 1800 rpm for a couple of miles allowing the engine to warm up. I never give it a lot of loud pedal before the engine is up to operating temperature which can be up to 10 miles. When conditions allow i give it some send, (as you do). This regime has worked for me over the decades i have been driving. Modern engines are much better engineered than those of 40 years ago, just keep on top of the oil/filter changes.
@Mr63844 ай бұрын
Listening to the first part of this about the better grated fuel raises a question for me. I recently bought a 2024 Nissan rogue with the 1.5 turbo three cylinder. We now have about 2700 miles on it and I ran regular fuel through it for the first three tanks and got about 32 miles to the gallon average then I tried running high test through it and it dropped to 29 miles to the gallon and then I went to midgrade twice and it dropped to 30 miles to the gallon . My question is the owners manual says use the 87 octane, which makes me wonder is the timing set for that lower octane?
@tonymayhew191Ай бұрын
You give great information my friend! I will chime in with my 30+ years of experience under the hood of cars. What you said in this video about the fuel that you are using is correct! But people with no mechanical experience need to have their hands held so to speak when explaining the why we don't want to do these things in complete! I tell people all the time at the gas station when I'm filling up and I see they are filling a car that I know needs premium fuel that, it doesn't matter if the price of fuel is twenty dollars a gallon! You cannot use regular gasoline in a high compression piston engine! And especially if the temperatures are high in the summer heat! The under hood temperatures are something that I don't think most people can even wrap there head around! And the hotter the ambient temperatures are, the worse that the engine is going to detonate! The sparkplug is not even lightning the fuel on fire as it is designed to do! The fuel is catching on fire from being compressed under high temperatures before the piston even get close to reaching the top of the cylinder! Throwing the engine way out of time! And timing is key to making power! Enstead, the engine is now fighting itself when you have a explosion out of time that it is supposed to light on fire. And low octane fuel is the worst thing that you can do to your engine next to Throwing rocks down the intake! 🤯 the higher octane fuel is harder to catch on fire and that is where alot of men that I explain this to didn't understand the importance of the fuel not being able to light on fire until the sparkplug lights it up! And when you can squeeze the air/fuel mixture clear to the top of the cylinder under high pressure and then light the mixture on fire! That is when you are going to have a explosion that drives the piston down with massive force and creating power that moves the car down the road with ease. When the piston is still traveling up and the fuel is lit on fire before it is squeezed to it's maximum pressure, you have now achieved the opposite result! And the results are low power output, poor fuel economy, engine abuse unimaginable to most people’s minds! So forget about saving money at the pumps by choosing the lower cost cheaper grade fuel so you can afford that pack of cigarettes! Your living on borrowed time either way, one is killing your engine, And one is killing you! 😉
@briankress999711 ай бұрын
I have an Infiniti Q 60 21 and it has water cooled turbos on it. Does this apply to those also to let it run before you shut it off?
@EdMcF12 ай бұрын
Got a turbo Diesel, needed a new turbo at c. 110,000 miles. Started with a high-pitched whine that tracked with throttle movements. Cost over £1k. Live on top of a steep hill and have now made sure that the engine has a wind-down before shutting down.
@bikeman12324 күн бұрын
My Kia's turbo has been whining for about 40k miles. Its on 135k miles now. Doesnt seem to have done any harm yet.
@sonofrobert5 ай бұрын
I start rolling immediately unless freezing weather. Just drive slow with rpms low. This let's the engine and tranny warm up faster and oil getting warmed up, which prevents wear. '15 VW Sportwagon 1.8t auto at 72k and runs like new.
@ericmcclelland477610 ай бұрын
Very informative.
@intrepidone27962 ай бұрын
VERY important video - I guess many people have never thought about it. Another problem is driving with a cold engine: You should let the engine idle at least 30 seconds to allow the cold oil to reach every part of the engine. Also use low rpm until your engine reaches operating temperature (oil temp of 80-90 degrees Celsius will be reached a few minutes after the water temperature gauge shows the engine is ready to rev up fully. Also use your stop-and-go-system wisely: Let the (hot) engine idle some seconds before you accelerate since even a stop of only a few seconds will let the oil go down inside. So immediate acceleration after the engine starting will shorten your engine’s lifetime.
@MultiVicky11222 жыл бұрын
Very good and important points. I agree with you on last point.
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support my friend.
@kayneashby93469 ай бұрын
Exactly what i needed to hear mate thankyou
@richardsimms251 Жыл бұрын
Excellent talk.
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the support and encouragement my friend.
@sunilayya89482 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to lug a car engine with an automatic transmission? Also aren't synthetic oils a must for turbo gdi engines ?
@torquecars2 жыл бұрын
It depends very much on the car. If you can select a gear manually and there are no safeguards or fall backs then probably but most autos will just take over when you try to do something silly. Yes a good quality synthetic is a must on those, oil sludge build up can happen with the wrong oil.
@bpb55414 ай бұрын
I have a 2011 VW GTI. I love it. It is stock .. no mods and I change the oil every 3k miles. It has 103k miles on it and while I have done maitenance on it that normal folks wouldn't do like changing out the manual transmission oil every 50k, I have done the normal stuff like spark plugs, coil packs, etc. The only issue I have ever had with the cars engine is the high pressure fuel pump. The factory one was designed poorly. I put an after market one that was much better and have had no issues. My real issue with it being a 13 year car is all the body stuff like switches and door latches etc that are going to wear out. I just replace or fix them as they come. The car is pretty much like new. Biggest thing I would recommend is to change your oil at half of what the manufacturer says. If you get a new car. Change your oil at 1000 then 3000 miles and every 3000 (if you drive hard) or 5000 miles if you drive normal. If you live in a cold area or do a lot of short drives (anything under 15 min) you should change your oil at 3000k. This is because of water in the oil does not have time to get out on those short drives. If you do all this there is no reason not to get over 200k or even 300k out of your car. Last thing clay your car every 6 months and wax it. That will keep the pain looking great.
@nickb7369Ай бұрын
Would love to see a video on the effects of excessive engine braking, prolonged idling, prolonged motorway driving and towing
@Sympatiko8510 ай бұрын
Great! Really enjoyed your video. hey, I have a Mercedes w204 C-class with M271-Evo, 7G-tronic optioned with dynamic handling package. wish you could explain the M271-Evo engine in a video! minimal lag, just a great high toque engine. Keep making videos. Your point of view is by far the best I've seen. Will subscribe and keep watch more of your channel. Thank you for driving and turbo car tips. my previous car was Ford Fusion Plug-in, so I've forgotten how to properly drive a RWD turbo car. sincerely FG
@thomasrogers45347 күн бұрын
I always turn the stop start off, is this a good idea? I do it to stop all the wear and tear on the components required every time it stops and starts. I was advised by a mechanic that turbos don't like this, any confirmation of this please?
@rahulddeshmukh3 ай бұрын
Really nice and informative video Would like to know more on what will be impact - with auto start and stop feature Is it good to have feature or it can kill transmission or engine?
@dylyo17 ай бұрын
Low R's last few minutes makes much more sense than hot idling to "cool" the engine. It's never made sense to me how parking a really hot engine bay can cool anything. But low R's coming home or into work makes much more sense.
@HeliosX336 ай бұрын
My neighbour always said that keeping it running for a few seconds keeps the oil flowing therefore cooling
@Billy97ify5 ай бұрын
The idea is to low idle for a period of time to let the turbo speed coast down before shutdown. You are right that driving at low load before shutdown will have the turbo spinning not so fast.
@d470005 ай бұрын
The worry is oil coking in the bearing, although this is not much of a concern with modern oils, water cooled turbos, and electric water pumps. If you've just come off the race track, yes, let it run for a minute - the oil and coolant are much colder than the turbocharger itself
@user-gl2eq2ly4g5 ай бұрын
Do both
@AlzhinSonАй бұрын
7:05 it depends, my car has a little motor that keeps the oil circulating in the turbo after you shut the engine off
@srirachasauce84305 ай бұрын
Good bits of info! Pops showed me the ropes when it came to the turbo engine life. Let it warm up, don't be erratic with the throttle, and let it cool down after a rip. Oil changes at 5k kms, with a filter change/dissection halfway through. 0w40 in cool months, 5w50 for summer in my 09 Dodge Caliber SRT4. Engine is squeaky clean at 217k kms, and brings me joy every day.
@sunilayya89482 жыл бұрын
Superb discussion. Many thanks.
@torquecars2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support my friend and welcome to the channel.
@ridehead8771 Жыл бұрын
What about cars with START STOP system? How is this affect the cooling down of the turbo??
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
Does start stop matter that much? It depends on your journey and traffic levels really. I rarely find I go from spirited drive to a dead stop in most areas I've driven traffic tends to slow up, hence allowing the turbo to cool a little. The other factor is that your engine will start again shortly after so the oil circulation and cooling can continue so this is not the same as switching off the engine for good. Start stop can be manually turned off in most cars and if you regularly go from spirited drive to stop often I would recommend doing this. Being aware of the potential issue at least gives us a chance as a driver to make an informed decision with regards to using stop start. Personally I switch off stop start unless I'm driving in urban areas with heavy traffic because I feel it is an annoying pain.
@aspecreviews11 ай бұрын
Turbo hybrids exist. In your sort of situation, a turbo hybrid would have gone pure EV when you've lifted off the throttle to slow down, therefore potentially damaging the turbo, although manufacturers would likely implement safeguards to prevent this sort of damage in a hybrid application.
@efraimuusiku6376 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information boss, but i have question about the idling when you start the engine and shutting it off after stopping. Do I have to do all that each and every time in a day?
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
If you are starting an engine again, it will be fairly warm already and will typically still have some oil. I wait just 10-20 seconds or so whilst I put my belt on before I pull away if it's not the first trip of the day. When you stop if you've been doing high rpms then you should let it cool IMHO, but in reality whilst you are parking up and doing the last bit of your journey you'll probably find things have cooled down again and the risk is much lower. The problem comes when you have a big change in heat on the engine, starting from cold and revving hard, or driving hard then shutting off.
@efraimuusiku6376 Жыл бұрын
@@torquecars Arlight, now I get it. Thank you very much once again 🙏.
@ivanhribernik34184 ай бұрын
What do you think about QMI motor treatment, when you add QMI treatment when you change the oil, QMI stays on the walls of motor and turbo for about 100.000 km and it is like driving wet ice on ice, I add it in many cars till now and it works very good.
@colinvannbohemen113 ай бұрын
Any advice regarding the purchase of a citroen ds3 low kms ?
@vincentperiolat4610Ай бұрын
informative, and well done. thank you.
@soloflexmaricruz67025 ай бұрын
I'm just curious about the turbo timer and affecting the immobilizer. It this your opinion, or has it been proven? Please respond!
@torquecars5 ай бұрын
If you switch off the engine and remove the key the engine is still running so it is not immobilized, you are effectively walking away leaving the car switched on. Insurance companies would not approve of a car which is normally immobilized and protected from running happily without the immobilizer. It would be possible to get the immobilizer circuit to switch on after the turbo timer has run, but most that I've seen just bypass the immobilizer and make it easy to hot wire the car.
@soloflexmaricruz67025 ай бұрын
@@torquecars I wasn't looking at it from insurance stand point. I thought it causes issue for the immobilizer.
@torquecars5 ай бұрын
Ah I see. The immobilizer is completely bypassed in most cases so the car will start without the unlock happening, and in the best case scenario is that it is only disabled when you shut the engine off for the cooldown period.
@maxxbenzz78424 ай бұрын
So are do u prevent lugging with an auto transmission
@EricJennings912 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate from the USA! Subscribed
@torquecars2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub and thanks for the support my friend.!
@My_man_G_UK Жыл бұрын
As my first TDI, this is gold!!
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words of support my friend, and the comments do really help this channel.
@My_man_G_UK Жыл бұрын
@@torquecars for sure! 😊
@Finglesham3 ай бұрын
My Focus 150 TDCI indicate which gear I should be using so as not to labour the engine. However, these devices cannot see the road ahead so I often change down well before we reach a hill or point where a lower gear is needed. Also sixth gear is really only useful to me on the motorway.
@michau_123 ай бұрын
Was told some years ago, to let oil through the turbo before stopping engine, I always do that when I have driven on the country roads. Always try to reach 2000 rpm no matter what speed I drive in my diesel engine. Modern engines do the same with 1500 rpm, that's why they drive longer pr.litre than older engines. I upgraded my exaust all the way from the engine with thicker pipes and better muffler/better sound, also got more power and drive 2 km longer pr.litre diesel at the same time.
@drlove891 Жыл бұрын
I typically run it for 3-5 minutes is that long enough?
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
That is probably a little longer than I would but it doesn't do any harm but it does depend on the car really, some with small turbos and an oil cooler will cool down quite fast. 120 seconds is generally enough time for the turbo to spool down and cool off, at least that avoids the hottest duration.
@chrisb71615 ай бұрын
My bmw M340 has water cooled turbo and continues to circulate water after the engine is shut off to cool the turbos if it was driven hard. The fan stays on and runs high as well. This prevents oil from being cooked off. I avoid this by just driving slow to cool it down after a hard drive anyway but nice to know the designers thought of it. Same thing happens with stop/start where the coolant continues flowing or the car won’t shut off if it’s still hot.
@timothylanders3189 Жыл бұрын
Especially with DI engines that harm timing chains etc if not having their oils changed very frequently ;)
@fastinradfordable6 ай бұрын
Injection type and timing drive are 100% unrelated
@Davido503 ай бұрын
5k mi OCI w/full synthetic is perfectly fine.
@bellini25355 ай бұрын
Great info. The last piece especially.
@nigelduckworth44194 ай бұрын
I have always tried to double de-clutch when changing down the box. This was from my days of having no synchro on 1st gear. Obviously this requires a sudden blip of the throttle mid change. Is this something that might also damage the turbo?
@maxxbenzz78424 ай бұрын
What about towing? Is it bad to tow with a turbo?
@torquecars4 ай бұрын
Shouldn't be a problem at all just find your power band and aim to stay in that with careful gear selection. Warm up is important when towing so don't drive hard from cold just keep it gentle until the engine warms up. It is easier to lug the engine when towing which should be avoided. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKrXZniKoLiiqpI
@kidplan55773 ай бұрын
What's the advice when stuck in traffic with engine idling for long periods.
@E38kabelo7 ай бұрын
Hi there. Very informative video. My engine light went on due to my faulty turbo. So, I stopped driving my car (audi A3 8p mileage on 200k) until i could find a mechanic to recon the turbo. About 2 weeks later, i started the car again to move the car, and the orange engine light was gone. I still haven't repaired it. Does this mean i have to get turbo cleaner for the turbo or completely replace it?
@fastinradfordable6 ай бұрын
Turning key on off resets some engine lights But scanning the computer will reveal the code
@lionsheperdmaster3 ай бұрын
Thankyou Sir Great video great advise. My favorite drive gear is 3RD GEAR i feel wise lol. i got a Toyota LC76 with custom ARASHI CT26 Turcbocharger without intercooler IDK if that’s wise for longevity of engine? Blessings from 🇵🇬
@michaelvanna898211 ай бұрын
How abt throttle controllers? Is it safe for turbos? Tnx...good channel
@fastinradfordable6 ай бұрын
They’re a scam
@MsDenver211 ай бұрын
Hi thanks for advice on turbo engine 😊 . I having a 1.5 turbo MG 7 speed automatic soon so how will driving an automatic turbo effect my turbo , also it’s a 3 cylinder? My car at the moment is a diesel 2.0 Tiguan so never driven a turbo before I want to look after it? On the test drive I found it lovely after the diesel, it was a lot smoother and even excellerating gently the pickup was very nice , by the way I tend to stick to speed limits except on motorway when I like to stick at 60 .
@fastinradfordable6 ай бұрын
If you stick to 60mph you never needed a turbo period.
@jimn.9990 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@antonybarrett7893 ай бұрын
That is a very good point regarding stop/start. It's sold as reducing pollution, but makes you wonder if its a way of wearing out things prematurely, £££ In the same way as individual pencil coils. They have a short life and are a costly service item. Old engines had one coil, would last the life of the car !! Regards cool down. The fact the car is in motion is beneficial to cool air flowing over and through the engine.
@ursirius48785 ай бұрын
For some premature acceleration has been a problem since puberty. Seriously though your advice works for any engine. You can use all the power an engine has to offer without slamming the go pedal. It's why dragsters have to be torn down after so many runs, each full power run beats the crap out of the motor. Of course that doesn't mean you can't hit it once in awhile.
@sky1army4232 ай бұрын
Does diesels suffer from low speed preignition?
@michaelmyers89312 ай бұрын
This may sound a little Bizzarre Ione a European turbo charged car after a drive I open the hood of my car and help the cooling process a little more than just relying on the cooling fan petroleum products breakdown with excessive heat so I dispose of the heat by opening my hood for 10 to 20 minutes not a big deal but what do you think of that
@GrahamHumphreys-e4l2 ай бұрын
I have always hammered my turbos hard..and always keep the revs above the turbo power kick off.But do agree about the oil though..
@mouselt16 ай бұрын
I agree with your assessment of turbo engines. I’ve not yet figured out why the manufacturers went down this path with more complexity and higher repair costs. The idea that they get better mileage is a myth. I drive a lot of different cars and the normally aspirated engines are as efficient if not more so and there is a smother transition into the throttle which makes for an easier vehicle to control and drive. Just not a fan of hair dryer engines for daily driver. Leave them for racing.
@robertheinkel62255 ай бұрын
EPA sets requirements, and the turbo is an easy way to meet those specs.
@peterhunter36565 ай бұрын
Excellent site and comments. Just what I needed to hear for my G8 2.0TDI bi turbo.
@tonystewardson11192 ай бұрын
It’s not specifically about the oil cooling at the end of the journey, it’s about allowing the turbo to slow down whilst still receiving a constant supply of oil to keep the bearings and bearing surfaces lubricated with the engine running.
@s_rtm14 ай бұрын
Does the “progressive throttle” part of the video apply to performance vehicles aswell or does that only apply to non performance vehicles?
@torquecars4 ай бұрын
Most modern performance cars (*and even non performance models) now use a drive by wire throttle, so the throttle is adjusted automatically by the ECU.
@s_rtm14 ай бұрын
@@torquecars would you consider 2014+ cars as modern?
@torquecars4 ай бұрын
I would in general but there are always exceptions. Euro 5 and even euro 6 pushed the manufacturers to evolve the engines further, which has been generally good for economy and that also helps reliability.
@jelleeijzinga631124 күн бұрын
What is your view on new turbo cars from BMW, Toyota, etc that start stop abruptly at ever trafic light? Would that not also stop oi! Cooling to blistering hot turbo, and destroy the bearings and breakdown lube oil properties that kill the engine?
@ar12.5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great content, this helps me understand what I’m doing wrong I remember after driving hard on my Volvo s60 t6 the fan was still running after stopping obviously it was cooling everything still I think computers have helped a lot with some of these issues but I always warm up and drive lightly for the first 4-5 minutes seems to serve well.
@Wayne-yo6ej6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this quick and precise video! I have a 2014 Fiat 500L Trekking, 1.4 litre turbo. Got a P0299 code, recently. Changed to higher octane gas. Is there an additive that will help as well?
@torquecars6 ай бұрын
Underboost codes are hard to track down, it could be a simple boost leak, or clogged exhaust, actuator or diverter valve problems, intake problems or even a dirty air filter. These seem quite sensitive, I know some guys have tweaked the threshold for lower RPM's to avoid this. BG do a nice range of additives that will help clear up soot from inside the engine and can help improve the EGR flow too. What is the mileage it might just need a walnut blast on the intake.
@mininovaq5 ай бұрын
I will be turbocharging my Hyundai Coupe. I was told to either go for 5w50 or 10w60. Which one iwll be better at preserving my engine, and turbo?
@hecava96183 ай бұрын
@@mininovaq well that would depend on the season of the year 5-20 cooler ,10-40 hotter
@niallntaz4 ай бұрын
Stop start is one of the biggest engine killers.
@zoltar808Ай бұрын
@@niallntaz agreed, luckily I was able to code mine to be disabled every time I start my 3 series.
@nixnet835 ай бұрын
I recently bought a hybrid car with a turbo, so I'm just curious since I don't control directly the gear its in, nor the RPMs - should I assume that the car's computer will do a great job for the cool down and warming up? After long highway driving it usually just shuts down the ICE for the last 1-2km of the trip, so i guess it doesn't need a cool down?
@stephenmuir6484Ай бұрын
If the start / stop has to be switched off manually each time you start the car, then get used to turning on the ignition & turning of the stop/start befor starting the engine
@GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd5 ай бұрын
Best to always be in the power band when hard driving so no sudden boast. I have had turbo cars since 1978. Great progress has been made to reduce boast lag but it’s important to keep in the power band when hard accelerating
@airmax90_king935 ай бұрын
This guy knows what he's talking about.....subscribed 👍🏾
@torquecars4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words, I'm pleased this early video of mine is still proving useful to people.
@stephenwall9036 Жыл бұрын
...ah, so that's what I've been doing wrong all this time. Great points you make. Thanks
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
I think we've all done these at some points, hopefully by passing on my experiences others can avoid those big bills I could have avoided.
@softyoss Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, any chance to explain a bit more point 4 if you have a Tiptronic transmission? Not sure how can you luggage the engine if using an automatic transmission
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
Lugging is nearly impossible on a Tiptronic gearbox, I should really do another version of this video for those with auto transmissions. Here in the UK 80-90% of cars are stick shifters, I know in some areas this percentage is inverted. If someone had a manual shift mode in their automatic and they chose the wrong gear it can potentially cause issues, but a modern car will generally work this out and step in to sort it.
@softyoss Жыл бұрын
@@torquecars awesome thx for the clarification:)
@davidgriggs39676 ай бұрын
I admit to lugging my 1980's manual turbo car , in 8th gear doing 100kmph it sits @ 2400 rpm redline is 8000 rpm.
@andrewwmacfadyen69584 ай бұрын
Driving gently for the last half mile or do before before parking up also prevents brake vibration issues caused by disc warping or baked on deposits on the brake discs
@minigunner12184 ай бұрын
Regarding point 4: If you have an automatic turbocharged vehicle and it's lugging at any point, tap down on the accelerator; that should give the ECU the message that you want to speed up, thus it will downshift. It may be finicky at first, but the computer should learn this habit over time.
@rickydub69506 ай бұрын
Great advice, recently had to educate in laws that 6th gear is 70ish on motorway not 35mph lol
@fastinradfordable6 ай бұрын
I rode with someone with a diesel and they drove around at 4000rpm I educated her to shift damnit She said why I said because every mile you’re spinning the engine 120,000 times extra. She act like it was a personal attack I was explaining that miles Don’t tell the whole story and someone may have the same miles as you but some ass hat spun the engine has spun around twice as many times on yours. She didn’t like me saying that 😬
@ghoulbuster15 ай бұрын
@@fastinradfordable Women. ☕
@keisuketakahasi45845 ай бұрын
my pulsar tells me to shift in 6th at about 60 kmh when i m really just tingling the throttle. at that load its okay. it tells to downshift when you re trying to hammer the throttle at 2000 rpm (max torque is already reached at 1800 rpm)
@Luke-ym7hd4 ай бұрын
My car sits quite comfortably at 30mph in 5th gear. If there was too much of a load on the engine, you’d feel it. This video was decent but this bloke fails to explain that every car is different. I’m not claiming my car to be an Aston Martin, but it has enough power under the bonnet to drive around in 5th. And I’ll continue to do so as well - bollocks is it damaging my turbo what nonsense 😂
@yinyangsaladgang87894 ай бұрын
@@Luke-ym7hd It's not about the power your engine makes. No matter which engine, driving 30mph at 1000rpm is too low and you are putting more stress on the bearings compared to the same speed at 2000rpm because every power stroke now has to do twice the work to maintain that speed. And he never said it was the turbo you'd ruin by lugging it, rather your turbo engine.
@HomeGrownPyro14 ай бұрын
Totally underrated video. Lots of good info thanks
@torquecars4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind words of support.
@dj_paultuk70526 ай бұрын
RE 4. This is simply not the case with modern Petrol turbo cars. Essentially anything after about 2012 since they now all use Direct Injection into the Cylinder. Thus knock simply cannot occur because there is no fuel present until its precisely required. Older Port injection cars, Yes and No. Saabs for instance use Direct Ignition and Ionisation measurement for each cylinder since 1993. Knock is caught within Milliseconds and adjusted for. Massively quicker than many other cars with standard block knock sensors.
@torquecars6 ай бұрын
Whilst things have certainly improved the modern direct injection engines will struggle with LSPI low speed pre ignition, so although things have moved on there are still things we need to be aware of as drivers. It's good to meet a Saab enthusiast, the 900 Turbo was a favourite of mine - they seemed to over engineer everything.
@thetayz72 Жыл бұрын
When you say spirited driving, do you mean like racing / high performance applications? Or would simply driving for a long stretch at normal highway speeds also be included? I try to let my turbo cool down but I usually give it more like 20 - 40 seconds of idling after parking from a highway drive. I'm not sure if that's enough. (I just do daily commutes in my sedan)
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
I'm referring to high RPM & Full throttle loads, anything that causes the Turbo to spool right up. Highway driving is generally more relaxed but giving the car a short cool down period really does keep everything happy.
@thetayz72 Жыл бұрын
@@torquecars Thanks for clarifying 🍻
@richardlopez87282 ай бұрын
How do you lug an automatic?
@svenschwingel86325 ай бұрын
LSPI has been linked to high concentration of calcium-based additives in the engine oil, mostly detergents and dispersants. Using API SP oils can mitigate the problem of LSPI. The calcium-based additives have been substituted by magnesium-based additives which seemed to have done the trick. It's still advisable to avoid lugging the engine, though.
@torquecars5 ай бұрын
That is really interesting I'll be looking into this more now you've pointed me in this direction, thanks for the heads up.
@svenschwingel86325 ай бұрын
@@torquecars you are very welcome 😉
@Ashley_van_Schooneveld6 ай бұрын
My turbo engine is approaching 120k mi and still pulls hard. The key is 5k mi oil changes, no tracking, gradually allowing to warm up fully and the highest octane rating money can buy
@pantysnifer9276 ай бұрын
Don't forget 0W30 oil
@Jack-lo1uc5 ай бұрын
Modern engines will go 10-15k between services
@Ashley_van_Schooneveld5 ай бұрын
@@Jack-lo1uc if you don't half the oil service interval you can potentially half the useful life of the engine
@GoldRaven-oe4by5 ай бұрын
Most turbos only last 150k
@Ashley_van_Schooneveld5 ай бұрын
@@GoldRaven-oe4by theres turbos with 300k mi out there
@jimmy56346 ай бұрын
Most of today’s turbos are designed to run on 87 octane fuel and top tier gasoline is common in the U.S. Top tier fuels contain detergents and additives to keep the fuel system clean and carbon deposits to a minimum. All the major oil companies produce and sell top tier fuel.
@hisownman5 ай бұрын
But the top tier fuels are quite expensive.
@Nishimachi_Photography3 ай бұрын
87? Wow that's low. 91 is the lowest we get in Aus, 98 is normal. Is 87 common where you are?
@torquecars3 ай бұрын
We have to bear in mind that the octane numbers do vary from region to region, kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmTcdniqpN2KqdU
@DavidReagle-z1i2 ай бұрын
@@hisownman Not in the US
@DavidReagle-z1i2 ай бұрын
My 2016 Passat 1.8l runs fine on 87 in Central Texas. Heat (and its hot here) and all
@michaelelliott99037 ай бұрын
How do you control the shutdown time on the 4xe 2.O Turbo on jeep wrangler?
@briankress99972 жыл бұрын
When do you think it’s a good idea to do a engine flush on a turbo car?
@torquecars Жыл бұрын
I would personally run a flush through with each oil change I do. The sludge and gunk that builds up can cause all sorts of issues. I believe some OEM service schedules drop a flush in the oil just before it is drained as a matter of routine, at least my local Audi dealership does this.
@xKillua99x Жыл бұрын
Hello there! I have a question, more like asking you for advice really. I bought a VW golf 2009 1.4 tsi around a month ago, was serviced in february, and everything was working fine. A couple days ago, the car stopped responding out of a sudden, the gears were changing randomly, and then it just shut down. I thought something happened with the transmission but actually the turbo was damaged. The fans were out of place but nothing broke, the problem is that oil went to other places, potentially damaging other parts of the engine. Anyways, the mechanic gave me the option of getting a used turbo (96000 km approx) or a new one but the price is the double. My problem here is that if i choose to spend on a new turbo, but there's other issues with the engine, it's gonna get too expensive to fix. Do you think it's worth it? Just cause it already looses value, so maybe i can fix it and sell it to recover a little bit of what i have spent on it, or maybe give it a go on fixing all and keep it? it's kinda upsetting because i just bought it but yeah.. thank you in advance, and thank you so much for all your videos, i've learned a lot :)
@kennylavay8492 Жыл бұрын
Listen to Scotty Kilmore your first mistake was to buy a VW especially that old. Trade it in sell it and buy another vehicle.
@anonymike8280 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how hard it is to replace a turbocharger in that model. In some vehicles it is pretty simple. In others, maybe not. In that situation, I would do it myself but not everyone can. Another problem I would have is finding a turbo unit in the self-serve wrecking yard. The price is about $100 versus at least $300 for a new turbocharger off of Ebay. Your mechanic might charge you $1200 for the part. You probably have the car either fixed or gone by now, but I did the research. Research is my hobby, so to speak. I have never owned a turbo car.
@djasseater226211 ай бұрын
@@kennylavay8492 scotty kilmer is a toyota shill, some VWs are good reliable cars, most arent tho
@newt18211 ай бұрын
@@kennylavay8492lolwat. So you are saying don't buy an Audi? VWs are one of the most reliable cars you can get
@marksaunderson30425 ай бұрын
Simple rule, start the engine, do not press the accelerator, then put your seat belt on. Lets the oil pressure build up. Then drive off. Rule 2. Arrive at your destination, take your belt off and then turn the engine off. Allows the turbo to spool down. Never ever rev the engine to ‘prime the carburettors for a cold start the following morning’ before turning it off, that never worked when cars had carbs, and diesel cars never had carbs, but it does kill turbo’s. As a neighbour found out when he killed his company car in under a year… it was painful to see him arrive home, and rev the engine and then turn in off.
@andrewross32936 ай бұрын
Thank you for your great advice.
@mikeosborne7185 Жыл бұрын
Great information and really helpful for Engine and Gearbox, at lot of Drivers haven't got a clue how to drive just abuse and hammer them.
@tonyclarke70445 ай бұрын
My Peugeot turbo has a factory fitted oil temp. guage. A great idea.
@Wagari10002 жыл бұрын
My turbocharger kicks in fairly late and I usually rev it slowly until i feel it kick in and then rev up to my desired speed. However, Ive noticed that my car doesnt shift as fast as I would like, or as I am used to in other automatic petrol cars. How do I map it for maximum power and fuel economy?
@torquecars2 жыл бұрын
I would check that the waste gate and boost valve are not sticking open first off. On your Hyundai it makes sense to use a plug in tuning box because I'm not aware of anyone offering remaps on that model. You can also get a box that sharpens up the throttle response which might provide the answer you need. Where are you based? I'll see if I can trace anyone near you that can help.
@Wagari10002 жыл бұрын
@@torquecars somewhere in africa, unfortunately
@msk3905 Жыл бұрын
shifting has nothing to do with a turbo that is the transmission
@031337862 жыл бұрын
Another good video! Great tips. Well done chaps!!
@torquecars2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again! and thanks for the support, you really keep me going.
@Grimwriggler3 ай бұрын
my 24 year old Rover L diesel is still on its original turbo and engine is untouched.. now on 220 thousand miles, the key is, as you say, good oil and frequent changes. 4 to 6 thousand miles, and let the car warm up for a minute or two before driving from cold . I also think Diesels can last a lot longer than Petrols , not sure why.
@torquecars3 ай бұрын
The fuel acts as a lubricant as it is closer to being an oil and they are built to withstand much higher pressures and greater torque. The way they deliver the power through a narrow RPM range also helps keep them reliable. I did a videos that went into some of these points if you are interested. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2bJY4yIl5Won80 But yes those older pre DPF diesels seem to last forever