DeWalt's 5Ah Powerstack Battery is More of Everything than Anyone Expected

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Our go to 6Ah for $91: amzn.to/3gZZJyN ADZY Europe seems to be the best Powerstack deal for $180ish shipped adzysgoods.com... 2-pack here: shrsl.com/3twms Go check out ‪@WorkshopAddict‬ DeWALT's new secret sauce 5ah DCBP520 Powerstack battery the new hotness? We dyno the battery vs a wide range of other 20V Max* XR and Flexvolt offerings to find out.
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As always, Torque who started this channel is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches and cut-off tools (air). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources!

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@adamrosenhamer3762
@adamrosenhamer3762 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the tool company's gain just as much from you guys now as we all do. And I really appreciate honest, unbiased testing.
@ericg4915
@ericg4915 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously it's good for dewalt because they have the best battery line but it's not good for the sub par companies cause they get exposed
@n.b.p.davenport7066
@n.b.p.davenport7066 Жыл бұрын
You can jump start a car or one of those batteries
@gbeving3167
@gbeving3167 Жыл бұрын
​@@n.b.p.davenport7066 works best with the xr series btw
@Miked1332
@Miked1332 11 ай бұрын
I will agree that DeWalt has the best batteries, but I wish they made all the battery cases the same as the PowerStack with the rubber base. Makes it feel a lot nicer and protects it a lot better. I also wish DeWalt wasn't so greedy when they launch new batteries. When the 1.7ah PowerStack battery came out, they wanted $170 bucks for it!? Then the 5ah came out at $250? They are crazy! Now though, the price is reasonable, especially on Amazon. I got a 5ah, 1.7ah and the new 4amp charger for $120. That's more like it.
@corin164
@corin164 2 жыл бұрын
A while back I commented on the fact that Stanley B&D and others were really not into the tool selling business but rather, they were in the battery selling business. This video proves my point.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
DeWALT is the brand we have the most different batteries under, and yet is also the brand we get the most comments about batteries we still should have used or bought. It boggles the mind
@tomcardale5596
@tomcardale5596 2 жыл бұрын
DeWalt is the only battery brand I've had failures with, and multiple ones at that. I'm still using 2007 era Bosch batteries on a regular basis and they still provide useful work.
@jaywelker5566
@jaywelker5566 2 жыл бұрын
you can't advance the sale of your tools without improvements to the batteries. I don't think there was much of a point to be had in any case, these companies want to make $$ and to sell batteries you need to make your tools look impressive....via their power source.
@ericg4915
@ericg4915 2 жыл бұрын
Yea but look at the numbers that dcf900 puts up, I would say that's the tool of all tools
@corin164
@corin164 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaywelker5566 I stand by my comment. Pretty soon, the use of Stanley B&D products are going to require a subscription, mark my words.
@namuhtsuj4025
@namuhtsuj4025 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve sworn by the 6AH XR for close to five years now. I have an assortment of different DeWalt batteries, just got a two pack of the 1.7AH Powerstacks this week, but time and time again I find my tools hooked up to the 6AH XR. The length of time the battery lasts under use paired with a modest weight really keeps me coming back.
@jonsaircond8520
@jonsaircond8520 2 жыл бұрын
I love the 6ah battery also for the higher load tools. I have a 8ah and it only really gets used if the 6 is down or I need 2 tools during the same job
@IslamsBomb
@IslamsBomb 2 жыл бұрын
in my country 6.0Ah and 5.0Ah PS costs 135$ but 9.0Ah is 20$ more expensive (155$) than both of them, so should I get 9.0 or 6.0? will 5.0 last longer cause its new type of battery? Im leaning towards 9.0 cause its seems to be most powerful even than 15.0Ah
@namuhtsuj4025
@namuhtsuj4025 2 жыл бұрын
@@IslamsBomb 9.0Ah are heavier than the 6.0Ah XR. Noticeably heavier. I don’t mind using 9.0Ah on tools that require a lot of power pull like a circular saw. If you plan on using it for a screw gun/drill, I’d go with the 6.0Ah. Really depends on what kind of tool you plan on using it with.
@esperjohnson446
@esperjohnson446 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel…the people’s channel
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the people who accept promo kits do relevant testing too, but they seem to gloss over the fact it costs as much as a damn M18 HD12.0! My wallet finds that relevant
@djosbun
@djosbun 2 жыл бұрын
Judge Wapner would be proud of them!
@Highstranger951
@Highstranger951 2 жыл бұрын
And project farm
@ajl278
@ajl278 Жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Do you know if all dewalt 9ah flex volt come with the Samsung batteries?
@TheJensss
@TheJensss 2 жыл бұрын
Another great test! My favorite battery packs are based on 21700 cells, since they are better than 18650 cells in every way. And the cells often are replaceable, making the battery easy to repair. Pouch cells tend to be much harder to replace. For future test the inclusion of model number for the cells that each brand uses for different batteries would be nice
@SomeGuysGarage
@SomeGuysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like the size of the 21700 cell packs though, they're just bulky dimensionally with that extra width and length.
@TheJensss
@TheJensss 2 жыл бұрын
@@SomeGuysGarage I think this varies a bit between manufacturers. My 4ah 21700 batteries from Bosch are way smaller than the 4-6ah 18650 battery and delivers way more amps. The 5.5ah 21700 is the same size as the 4-6ah 18650 but delivers wayyy more amps. The nice thing is that everyone can buy the tools that work for them :) I see the benefits of pouch cells, but I don't like that they are really hard to repair
@masonkaye5
@masonkaye5 2 жыл бұрын
But pouch cells are generally more reliable and because the tabs are soldiered on instead of spot welded on the chance of losing contact is much lower
@SomeGuysGarage
@SomeGuysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJensss specifically with Dewalt...I actually prefer the size of the 5ah 18650 battery over say the newer 3ah or 4ah 21700 batteries.
@TheJensss
@TheJensss 2 жыл бұрын
@@masonkaye5 That is true. Pouch cells should also last longer since the cells are rated for more charge cycles. If for some reason a cell should stop working, replacing a pouch cell is almost impossible since the pack is glued. The 21700 cells are easy to swap out.
@wwdiesel
@wwdiesel 2 жыл бұрын
Got to love DeWalt for pushing the boundaries on both tool performance and batteries. You got to know that this makes other companies take notice and will have to step up their game if they want to remain competitive. In the end, the consumer benefits by having better performing tools to pick from. Keep up the GREAT WORK, I believe your videos make a difference forcing the tool companies take notice of where their offering stack up in your tests....
@superslash7254
@superslash7254 2 жыл бұрын
They're not though, just look up "Dewalt battery wont charge". They have a catastrophic quality control problem with their batteries and they refuse to even RMA most of them.
@samkirk3662
@samkirk3662 Жыл бұрын
You can say this for any tool.
@RyanRKJ
@RyanRKJ 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest take-away from this video is that my next battery purchase should be a 9Ah FlexVolt. I currently only have one 9Ah FlexVolt to run my 60V tool, and sometimes it runs out of juice before I finish a job. I was debating getting a 6Ah as a backup to the 9Ah, but it looks like it's a far better call to get a second 9Ah. As for the 5Ah PowerStack, I simply see no compelling reason to buy it based on this video.
@nafnaf0
@nafnaf0 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I agree. Def not a big upgrade and the cheapest I can find it is $322 for a 2 pack. I got my 2 6ah 20Vs for $160 a few years ago.
@bhaycraft
@bhaycraft 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent content. For me if you want small grab the 1.7 and large just grab the XR 6.0 as for now there is no way the price justifies the 5.0 stack battery and the size that it is.
@brianingham3780
@brianingham3780 2 жыл бұрын
I run the 1.7 on my compact tools and the 9ah flex on my 899 and flexvolt tools
@bigboxes
@bigboxes 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianingham3780 I have the 899. Does the 9ah Flex make a difference? I don't want a huge battery unless I need it. I've been thinking getting some Flex. I got this Flex Advantage reciprocating saw and I'm probably going to get some Flex batteries in the future.
@jesusisalive3227
@jesusisalive3227 2 жыл бұрын
If it lasts twice as long and handles load spikes better then it will be very popular among contractors.
@starseeddeluxe
@starseeddeluxe Жыл бұрын
If it really lasts twice as many charge cycles, then it's a screaming bargain, if you can find the PS on sale. But the problem is, how can anyone verify the claims? Some batteries that make big claims end up dying after a few months, there's just no way to know how long the Power Stack batteries will last in real world charging conditions?
@GAROmx
@GAROmx 8 ай бұрын
They have a two pack of 5 AH power stacks for $229 at Lowe’s right now
@rickvang7313
@rickvang7313 2 жыл бұрын
My two best youtube channels! You guys are the consumer report of the KZbin world. Torque Test Channel and Project Farm🙌❤. Keep up the good work.
@lewisavinash1
@lewisavinash1 4 ай бұрын
i agree 100%, one fool from Mumbai India who has Makita 18/40V and dewalt 20V tools lineup
@collinsmith9941
@collinsmith9941 2 жыл бұрын
Great job fellas You guys are putting in the work. I hope your channel continues to grow a bunch.
@jetsetjoey
@jetsetjoey 2 жыл бұрын
The PowerStack 5.0ah is bigger than expected. I ordered one from Hm. Dep. & returned it, as the slight increase in power was 'outweighed' by its & cost...
@fishiesteph
@fishiesteph 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the 6AH 20v performs. I would love to see some testing with the 8AH and 10AH 20v as well. I have used all three of these on impacts and it seems like the 8AH and 10AH can out perform the 6AH. Great videos! Thanks again!
@nbowling10trio
@nbowling10trio 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed an increase in power on my 1/2" impact a few years ago when I bought the 6ah battery. It was a nice bonus
@FliesLikeABrick
@FliesLikeABrick 2 жыл бұрын
The nice thing about 18650 and other cylindrical cell batteries is that they can be rebuilt and repaired with commodity cells. I'm guessing that won't be the case with the pouches
@crherniman
@crherniman 2 жыл бұрын
Know anyone that can repair 6.0ah Flexvolt batteries? I have no idea why but they seem to fail more than any other dewalt battery I own.
@jamesashe
@jamesashe 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered a food vacuum sealer for your volume tests? It won't be perfect, but it might be better than you current methods. The food grade plastic is thicker than a grocery bag, but it doesn't bridge voids _too_ badly in my experience. Just a thought. Keep up the good work.
@sage5296
@sage5296 2 жыл бұрын
I think bridging the voids is somewhat the point, as having random cavities in the tool profile don’t really help you get into tighter spaces any better
@h8GW
@h8GW 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! This new 5Ah Powerstack really kills it here! _looks at price_ ...But what's another 1/2 pound on top of an 8 pound tool, anyways?
@2hotscottpro
@2hotscottpro 2 жыл бұрын
I have four 8ah bats.Wish I knew you needed one for this test.
@homelesszaya.6548
@homelesszaya.6548 2 жыл бұрын
I've fallen in love with this channel. It shuts sooooo many dudes in the shop right up
@phillewis1768
@phillewis1768 2 жыл бұрын
Not to many other channels put in the work that this channel does!!!!!!
@eetechs1643
@eetechs1643 2 жыл бұрын
You should test Ryobi's 18 volt cutoff tool as a part two of this test. Also, I would like to add that some tools may have constant velocity compensation that can make the RPM stay constant within the load range rating of the tool. What constant velocity compensation (also known as IR compensation) does is try to keep the motor running at the same RPM under various load conditions. So say for example you have a DC motor that needed to turn at 500 RPM and you needed 12 volts to do that, but it keeps slowing down as you apply more load. Well the way around that is using a controller with velocity feedback by either a sensor or indirect measure of the armature voltage and higher voltage applied to the controller. The controller will increase the voltage as soon as the RPM drops keeping the RPM at a dead steady 500 within limits of course until either current limit is reached or run out of voltage or over heat protection kicks in.
@gts5930
@gts5930 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I don't know how you do it, but you guys keep bringing awesome content to this channel. Thank you! Where's your tip jar like PF has?
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
No tip jar, no Patreon, sorry
@gts5930
@gts5930 2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Freakin love you guys!
@dsgamecube
@dsgamecube 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, man, I was about to request this exact video. Glad you guys were a step ahead of me.
@Miked1332
@Miked1332 11 ай бұрын
These PowerStack batteries are awesome. I absolutely love them because they do give a LOT more power than the standard XR batteries. I had an 8ah battery on my 7-1/4" miter saw and swapped it for the 5ah PowerStack and my god! It chews through boards like butter. With the 8ah, it liked to bog down and then kick really bad, so I had to run the saw really slowly so it didn't kick or bog down. I thought it was just underpowered and turns out that it was. That 5ah PowerStack is a beast!
@kennetheugene6402
@kennetheugene6402 Ай бұрын
2 months ago they were on sale they had a dewalt guy in Home Depot and I got 2 power stack 5 ah for 179.00 🎉 the battery tested runs 20-40 degrees cooler after being pulled that alone will prolong the batteries life.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 2 жыл бұрын
Wow impressive that the 5ah PowerStack was a few foot pounds lower then the 15ah that I wasn't expecting @Torque Test Channel
@roberthousedorfii1743
@roberthousedorfii1743 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE your channel, buy jeesus, you guys are confoosing... Spend a good bit more time on helping me figure out wtf you're talking about..
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's interesting, I got one yesterday for around US$140. Nice to see we got a better deal here for a change.
@appreciatizer5911
@appreciatizer5911 2 жыл бұрын
This is completely irrelevant to the video but. My boss just bought the mikwaukee 1 inch D handle extended version! He bought it to take off the tires of our big rig international. I got to use it to take one of the tires off. That thing is awesome!
@KM-os4be
@KM-os4be 2 жыл бұрын
Kobalt Ultimate Output 24-Volt 8 Amp-Hour been on sale for $99 or $40 off at Lowe's. One of the main reasons I've been buying more Kobalt tools. Economy is a factor these days for some of us.
@ericnichols9275
@ericnichols9275 2 жыл бұрын
Or your like me and buy Adapter for your RIDGID and MILWAUKEE power tools and run a KoBalt battery and gain lots of Power Cheap
@avnut5517
@avnut5517 2 жыл бұрын
DeWalt is really stepping it up. Nice testing!
@Ligby
@Ligby 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t even afford the normal batteries
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 2 жыл бұрын
Just like you I assumed they would be smaller. Lipo are awesome but have one huge drawback; they hate being stored at full charge (4.0-4.2V per cell). They however will have 10x lifespan if stored at 3/4 charge/3.8V per cell. A lot of high end electronics will self discharge a battery pack after 24-48 hours to this voltage to preserve the pack overall life. Curious what the initial pack voltage is? And if it self discharges?
@tannergriffin9130
@tannergriffin9130 2 жыл бұрын
The pouch cells used here are still Lithium Ion and not Lithium Polymer. Essentially, the chemistry is similar to that of the 18650 and 21700 cells previously used in battery packs just with a new packaging.
@eatinMcdonaldsfryz
@eatinMcdonaldsfryz 2 жыл бұрын
They arent LiPos.
@FirstLastOne
@FirstLastOne Жыл бұрын
2:00 why 'some' people don't want to switch to metric is beyond me. I used water to figure out the size of a molded fibreglass subwoofer cabinet shell I was building around the wheel arches in the trunk using water to get the air volume in litres. Everyone was looking at me like I was Albert Einstein because they couldn't believe how easy it was.
@radiok2ua
@radiok2ua 2 жыл бұрын
"It handles like a trailer with a blown tire"--best line ever on TT Channel!
@mausball
@mausball 2 жыл бұрын
RIght now, it's 1/4 smaller and lighter, but 1.5-2x the price in singles. The DCBP520-2 ($349) vs the DCB206-2 ($269)....I'll stick with the 6ah packs for now I guess. That extra $80 (on 12/7/22) is noticeable.
@djsi38t
@djsi38t 2 жыл бұрын
Wow,The most informative video in the history of this channel!...This one will be king of views in no time,fantastic job TTC!
@davidbrooks9576
@davidbrooks9576 2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the flexvolt powerstack
@kanarienvogelfisch
@kanarienvogelfisch 2 жыл бұрын
do a run time test you ll be blown away I saw like double the screws on one battery compared to a regular new 5ah
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 2 жыл бұрын
Wow at how massive the 5ah PowerStack is vs the 1.7ah PowerStack interesting @Torque Test Channel
@SomeGuysGarage
@SomeGuysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Was really looking forward to this one :) thanks TTC!
@willychow300
@willychow300 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You for the comparison.. I was going to buy the 5ah power stack.. after watching your video! I'll save my money.. that kinda of premium without a huge performance isn't worth the money.. The old power stack is compact and worth having one.
@SuperPhoReal
@SuperPhoReal 2 жыл бұрын
I manage to buy 3 for $45 each thru marketplace. Never pay full price, it’s absurdly too expensive.
@victoriol
@victoriol 2 ай бұрын
What a great video. I came here to find how good are those PowerStack 5Ah and after this video, I want a pair of 6 Ah batteries to replace my 9 year old 4 Ah batteries.
@douglasmayherjr.5733
@douglasmayherjr.5733 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m not a Dewalt guy but interesting technology that I can see all the brands using. Thanks.
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe in 20 years... Thanks, patents.
@BA-zy2kb
@BA-zy2kb 2 жыл бұрын
Just the info I was looking for. Thanks!
@eduardosandoval1884
@eduardosandoval1884 2 жыл бұрын
So my 6 ah’s is still the way to go!!!! Thank you for the data
@KS-xx5xq
@KS-xx5xq 11 ай бұрын
Im choosing Metabo 18v grinder on 9Ah FlexVolt with adapter (or 9Ah Makita, same and cheapo, but no FV in future, with SONY VTC6 or LG HG2 both have their yay and nahs). This was a good time with Your channel I wish I could like twice. Heck, Ill find random vid on Your channel and like it just because I can and You deserve to be mainstream. It was great friendship for me, Ill flashback You with Respect. Much Many Thanx, Mister. Thats what Internets are made for.
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 2 жыл бұрын
That is really interesting that you can see that battery's power curve in the torque curve.
@dash8465
@dash8465 Жыл бұрын
I really like the PS batteries, especially the relatively tiny 1.7, but the size of the 5 is very helpful when I set down some tools in the upright (standing) position.
@Jtc00
@Jtc00 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I've been waiting for this one!!
@richh33
@richh33 3 ай бұрын
Excellent, and very informative review. Just picked one of these up having seen a really good deal here in the UK, (I've already got one of the 1.7Ah packs) and performance-wise, must admit I'm impressed. Clearly a fair bit lower internal resistance than the traditional 5Ah packs and a fair chunk more total energy usable per charge. Will I switch over to them in preference to the standard packs? Probably not, but for my more power-hungry tools they make a better partner, no doubt. As for the pack being 'front heavy', that's fair comment but also inevitable given their need to fit into the rotary hammers and other tools that mount the battery 'backwards'. For this reason, the spatial relationship between the mounting plane and the rear face of the pack needs to be identical to the round cell packs, limiting DeWalt's options in terms of where the extra area is distributed. If it wasn't at the front of the pack, it'd need to be in a lot of extra width.
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 3 ай бұрын
The channel that works for YOU!
@stevereavis7422
@stevereavis7422 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to se similar test with the Flex tool line - they also have standard and stacked Lithium versions.
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 жыл бұрын
awesome tests as usuall! Btw they don't always use 30T's, I have seen some using LG H30 which are just slightly worse.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
True, and Sony as well. Ours had 30T's luckily inside
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel sony only has 4ah 21700's but there were version with sanyos 20700 :) 30T are beasts and you are lucky to have them! I just built a few 40v xgt packs with 30T's crazy stuff
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@riba2233 Yes, the early ones had 20700's which is why we only purchase 6 and 9's new. I meant that some DeWALT packs in general use Sony's, it's a grab bag sometimes
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel true, they use cells from all 4 major brands. Luckily nothing from eve and other chinese companies like ryobi does now. There are some good ones but you never know
@jrod6236
@jrod6236 2 жыл бұрын
I knew as soon as the first one came out a year ago, there must be a bigger one coming. So like you said, this time next year, we'll probably get the big boy!
@NYC_Plumber_Guy
@NYC_Plumber_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
9 FlexVolt is an absolute beast love using it on my 60v sawzall
@pealock
@pealock 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 1.7 PS batteries but like you said the 6AH is the sweet spot. Can’t say I’m sold on the 5 PS just yet. Maybe if price wiggles and I can get them for around 125-150/ piece
@masonkaye5
@masonkaye5 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should test kobalt tools with the 8ah xr battery
@KingYang05
@KingYang05 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching my morning motivational video for this as soon as I got the notification. Worth it. 😆
@joshuaking34
@joshuaking34 2 жыл бұрын
Good work guys. Will have to pick one up once the price goes down.
@bruceaugustine6486
@bruceaugustine6486 Жыл бұрын
I saw the 5AH Powerstack, on Cyber Monday 2 pack was $238.00 on Amazon while most others were $299.00-$315.00
@elulysero8863
@elulysero8863 Жыл бұрын
2 pack plus free tool at lowes online right now
@crwhy
@crwhy 2 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling the Powerstack battery is just a market test for something bigger in the future. I just wish the Powerstacks fitted in the Flex volt range of tools
@denoftools
@denoftools 2 жыл бұрын
Excited to see this but I can't understand why they didn't shift the bulk backwards.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Tools stand up easier
@denoftools
@denoftools 2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Can it not stand up on the 5ah?
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the tool. A high torque is iffy
@theborednerds
@theborednerds 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I was really looking for something that was the epitome of consistency.
@charlieward7606
@charlieward7606 Жыл бұрын
just about to start investing in some dewalt stuff, i feel the 6ah XR and the 9ah flex volt are the two stand outs, also the 1.7 power surge for small stuff, everything else seems to be a bit to in-between or limited.
@krusher547
@krusher547 2 жыл бұрын
My frustration is purchased one, bad in 2 days, dead. Had to argue to return. Bat #2 last 7 days!! Keep in mind only charged , set aside to use.
@kennedymcgovern5413
@kennedymcgovern5413 Жыл бұрын
Alright, post viewing takeaways... When I chose the 5PS, I was deciding between it and the 6XR and these results show that I was making the right comparison. That's good news. Because of the reasonable size, I can (and have) replace all of my smaller batteries for my smaller tools with them. But because of the performance, I can feel confident running it in my bigger tools as well although, I am going to keep my 8XR and 10XRs handy for their extended run time over this one. NICE! This is the comparison I was looking for, for a week and taking the leap without seeing it. Like I said, most people saw the number '5" and wanted to compare it to the 5XR and it just kept winning because that is not the right battery for comparison purposes. Now, that ad you showed on Amazon for the 6XR for 91 bones...that guy is still running that ad here in the future. He's at $84 now. And for that price, I was tempted to go with the 6 and just buy four from him. BUT...I am a little gun shy. I got burned recently on ebay, and ended up with two counterfeit 5XRs. So I dug deeper there. Amazon is an authorized DeWalt seller, but everyone who sells on Amazon is not Amazon. That guy is not Amazon. So I jumped in the questions section and asked the direct question. He answered that he is not a DeWalt authorized dealer. Understand, that does NOT mean he is selling fake batteries. His batteries may be right as rain. It just means you do not have the guarantee. Whether you should take the chance or not is up to you, but you should absolutely have this information going in. You can buy a 2 pack of 5XRs directly from Amazon, without that risk. Those go for 196 so...about $14 more per battery. On the flip side, I paid 300 per two pack at Lowes for the 5 PS. Yes, I could have found a better price, but Lowes has a program where they let you pay for your stuff over 90 days (as them about Progressive Leasing), and it doesn't cost much (unless you go over 90 days...on day 91 they ream you, so be careful there). 200 per month for 3 months (I bought two 2 packs) was just easier for me to handle right now, so I did it that way. There...now we all have the benefit of each other's experience, and everyone else has all of the information they could possibly need to make good decisions.
@jasonvandervalk3679
@jasonvandervalk3679 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! When I can get my hands on the new powerstack I would like to see how it is for power and run time the brushless angle grinder.
@paulthompson1654
@paulthompson1654 2 жыл бұрын
hi for my jobs 5ah XR still is the ideal choice ,price is a big influence .
@taylorsand
@taylorsand 2 жыл бұрын
Great information!
@aaronatwood9298
@aaronatwood9298 2 жыл бұрын
I still want to see the gen2 Milwaukee m18 hex impact and it’s competition of the same era. Some of us use our tools till they die or otherwise fail to chooch
@PreAchEr777x3
@PreAchEr777x3 2 жыл бұрын
What about the Flex power stack ?
@melgross
@melgross 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since the introduction of Li-on batteries several years ago, the tool industry has made tremendous gains. The introduction of brushless has increased that seriously, and now, with these new pouch batteries, we’re again seeing real gains. If we look at tools seven or eight years ago, before Li-on, and now, it’s a world of difference.
@cimfur
@cimfur Жыл бұрын
What about a video comparing older battery tech like nimh and nicd with lithium. And touching on how they were used. 👍
@Handyman247llc
@Handyman247llc 2 жыл бұрын
While I only own a few Dewalt tools I do like that there are options to batteries. the only major Dewalt tool I own is the Multi-tool (Oscillating-tool). Smaller batteries (2Ah) are better for cutting up on a ladder, but cutting on the ground a lagger battery is ok. If the new PS batteries get smaller with more beans then that might be an option worth paying for?
@rotaxrider
@rotaxrider 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and love the test and the visual charts a really good comparison but I won’t be running out and replacing my 5 and 9 ah batteries just yet
@pgeorg01
@pgeorg01 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and the data you output. What about using sand instead of water for volume measurements? A bit of shop air and its all cleaned up!
@TomsTimmervan
@TomsTimmervan 2 жыл бұрын
crazy, I bought the battery 1,5 month ago in the Netherlands for 140 euro's, about 150 dollar. The 5 AH goes for 100 dollars ish
@SoJa92
@SoJa92 2 жыл бұрын
Not that you didn't do a good job of sealing the batteries for the displacement test, but there are several dielectric fluids out there that are non conductive. Don't know if you've already looked into these(or even just distilled water) but just a suggestion!
@DrHumorous
@DrHumorous Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the 6Ah's are beasts and if you get two for the price of one 5Ah PS, they're worth it!!
@Dagasm
@Dagasm Жыл бұрын
Hmmm looks like my comment was deleted so let me revise. Today I received a 2 pack of DeWalt Powerstack 5.0Ah batteries I bought from a certain primary color themed brick and mortar store by way of a certain delivery service's website for about half the price it'd have been had I gotten it directly from said brick and mortar. They're legit DeWalt batteries.
@drivingmemad7127
@drivingmemad7127 2 жыл бұрын
Wow the UK version DCBP518-XJ which has been available for a while now is currently around £120-£130 inc VAT, think I might pick one up before they hike the price.
@mmabouts
@mmabouts 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see if the Milwaukee cutoff gun has more power than the new Milwaukee m12 belt sander! As you may know folks are making there own m12 belt sander with cheap harbor freight air belt sander parts and mounting said parts on the cutoff gun. P.s love the content. Keep up the great work!
@stephenrickstrew7237
@stephenrickstrew7237 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how about the cyclic life of these high output batteries… as my m12 6ah didn’t last very long ..
@kylefowler5082
@kylefowler5082 2 жыл бұрын
How old is your 6ah m12, I've seen on Facebook people saying it's the newer 6ah's with issues
@stephenrickstrew7237
@stephenrickstrew7237 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylefowler5082 2years they overdraw and then won’t charge I’ve had 3 go bad and they are probably the 1st Gen as the clips that hold the batt to the tool break… all my other batteries work fine ..
@br4morse7
@br4morse7 10 ай бұрын
I was hoping he would do a displacement test on the compact 3ah battery so that I could see a volumetric comparison of the old generation 18650 based batteries with the newer 21700 counterparts.
@999benhonda
@999benhonda 2 жыл бұрын
$230 is just crazy. A RC, 6s lipo pack (similar type of cells but at 22-25v) that is 5000mah capacity is between $70-$100. So that case and bms is apparently worth $100.
@David.....
@David..... 2 жыл бұрын
The lipo pack inside is not comparable to rc pack, because dewalt uses a pack that does not catch fire upon punture or damage.... Rc lipo regularly catch fire when abused.
@Gazereths1234
@Gazereths1234 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, not worth the crazy price though. The 5ah 18650 based XR is still best bang for buck imho.
@bradenpiggott2413
@bradenpiggott2413 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for the power stack to come out, just waiting for it to come to my city
@kylelaw7210
@kylelaw7210 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how much age of the battery affects the test results. Would you get the same results after the battery is a few years old?
@agustin713
@agustin713 Жыл бұрын
Yup I agree these batteries are a beast i heave 2 of these and 2 of the 1.7
@ThomasYT-
@ThomasYT- 4 ай бұрын
Can you test the Dewalt 8Ah Powerpack tabless battery?
@nathanenright3079
@nathanenright3079 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work.
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 2 жыл бұрын
It's not epitome, it's epitome. Clears it right up, right? 🌻
@plvaulter006
@plvaulter006 2 жыл бұрын
How does the 8AH battery fit in on the voltage sag chart??
@reginalb124
@reginalb124 Жыл бұрын
I would really like to see the 8Ah XR battery. I backpack with their newish little adapter to get you USB-C PD, because that can charge literally anything I carry, and I have so many Dewalt batteries to choose from, depending on how long I am out. In testing to see which battery delivers the most watt hours per gram, I found that my 8Ah XR is literally just 1g heavier than my 6Ah XR (which is one of your favorite Dewalt batteries). Back when the Power Detect stuff launched, I remember reading that the 8Ah was supposed to be able to deliver a decent power uplift over the 6. But who knows if that's actually true. For me, it does mean that the 8Ah is by far the most watt hours per g out of my battery collection (1.7Ah Powerstack, 2Ah, 5Ah old style, 5Ah Powerstack, 6Ah XR, 6Ah Flexvolt, 8Ah XR, and 9Ah Flexvolt). The Flexies are on the opposite end of the watt hours per g scale, they must use heavier plastic in their cases or something.
@nemracfiftyto6206
@nemracfiftyto6206 2 жыл бұрын
Putting it in water, surprised you didn't shorted the battery
@waltermh111
@waltermh111 2 жыл бұрын
You arent really measuring comparably at the beginning, but its fine. The 5ah does give more power in less space. It outputs greater power than an 8ah for half the size and less weight. Sure, it may not last as long, but it should last longer than a traditional 5ah due to efficiencies. So yeah, its awesome. The it costs more than I expected, so I may not be getting them until a sale. I can keep using my flexvolt and accept the size and weight for now. And I get all 9ah flexvolts. Just that perfect middle ground of size/power. I will have to compare the battery prices before I buy a 2 pack because I need 2 more batteries and I have 50/50 20v and 60v May get 2 more flexvolt for now, then 2 powerstack later because I still want smaller batteries for the 20v long term. Smaller, less weight, easier to carry around.
@tommays56
@tommays56 2 жыл бұрын
235 Dollars is a LOT of money is this price range of tool when most people can get by with a Ryobi and 100 dollar two pack of 4amp batteries
@bossmanz28
@bossmanz28 2 жыл бұрын
Im not suprised by size. Flex stack lithium 6 and 10ah are pretty big. Also i feel like not a lot of ppl realize that the 5ah is basically 3 times the capacity of the OG power. 1.7 x 3= 5.1. Is it triple the size or only double or in between?
@Demorthus
@Demorthus 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see overtime how these batteries age. More so whenever it's between a standard charger vs. 'super/ultra' charger. Because up to this point smartphones have been the barometer of gauging that sort of topic. & they've been the first & most refined, yet still are at the mercy of chemistry. Except power tools draw more power & on average even more extreme demands, thus- how would it effectively (let's see some tests.. /wink /knudge) over time taking those additional things into consideration. Overall though, it's awesome to see (ignoring the price). The weight reduction alone makes a huge difference when you don't feel like your wrist is sore as hell just from carrying a battery that may as well be a small dumbbell + vibrations during whatever project/job lol
@Boris_Chang
@Boris_Chang 2 ай бұрын
I have a few of the older DeWalt 20v Max batteries: will these work with today’s drills (800, 805, etc)?
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