M12 5Ah High Output for $71: amzn.to/3zzZHGT JBTools as the seller, same place we bought the 5ah battery in this video
@JakeM2403 ай бұрын
One Question , Does Gen 1 perform better with new High Output battery ?
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
@@JakeM240 not so much from what we can tell kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ3dYmqkp5J0m68&si=49fLt6G3QSNAh_fn
@IkasziaAqila3 ай бұрын
in Indonesia m12 5Ah HO $75 made in China .
@h8GW3 ай бұрын
How'd you find out Milwaukee found out your specific order and went behind the scenes to give you the best from their QA line, or is this a trade secret?
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
@h8GW the retailer told us Milwaukee sent them a sample to ship to us. We asked because it was delayed several weeks then wasn't.
@capitandelespacio3 ай бұрын
As a graphic designer, web developer, I've never worked with torque power tools, and yet here I am, every friday, enjoying these videos.
@striderstache993 ай бұрын
As a former developer, I'd rather be working with tools tbh. That and single purpose computer boards or playing around with embedded computers like Arduinos. If I had to do it all over again, I'd go to trade school.
@nmatthew74693 ай бұрын
Time to start. Get some tools, they're invaluable. Every project you complete yourself saves hundreds compared to hiring someone.
@unwired2 ай бұрын
Start to collect power tools, it is fun!
@washableaxe2 ай бұрын
@@striderstache99don’t take for granted the abuse your body does NOT have to take as part of having a white collar job…i love wrenching my car and whatnot, but i don’t for a second wish I could be doing that all day, every day.
@Recknoknight2 ай бұрын
Just use an Impact Wrench on the CSS. EZ solution
@oldschoolnewschool62703 ай бұрын
If any company wants to send you something pre- release, take it and then wait for it to be released and buy one to test them head to head.
@EunoiaAnrkyuk3 ай бұрын
That's one thing, what Milwaukee tried to do however, sounded a tad sleazy to me.
@JackJackKcajify3 ай бұрын
The only thing about a pre release is maybe they make sure its not a dud. thats it. its not any different than a stock properly functioning tool
@kwmiked3 ай бұрын
Definitely should've tested the 2 back to back
@7mpowerd3 ай бұрын
That’s a great idea.
@jeepsaround3 ай бұрын
@ Speaking of prototypes, I somewhat recently worked in a prototype shop. Because of cost, it would be unlikely to make something too good and let it out of our hands. It is possible they could eliminate power regulation, include a better battery, or stronger or heavier clutch. Often prototypes have shortcomings until close to production when they are just do ongoing testing. Anyway, sometime around 2007 Nucor had a DeWalt tool contract where, for a flat fee of about $25,000/yr, they would come weekly and replace worn/broken tools (screw guns, drills, and circular saws). We were using the older corded drywall-style impact screw guns, with a metal impact chuck, to drive about 1,000,000 lag screws per month 24hrs a day 5-6 days a week, and we were very hard on the tools. DeWalt came in and asked us to try a new prototype impact screw gun like all the cordless 1/4in impacts we are familiar with today. They were certain it would outperform the older screw guns but it only lasted 30 minutes. Surprised, and disappointed, the rep left and didn't bring one back. I wondered what they did afterwards. Shortly after I saw the new style impacts come out to replace the clutched drills. We are all happy to use them over the drills but I never compared the two. I believe that older screw gun would still outperform the new impacts, however, I have also not worn out a 1/4in impact even though today I started feeling like it may be wearing.
@user-oy4lk7fd9w3 ай бұрын
brother, i gotta say i appreciate your effort to stay transparent and fair. it means a lot especially in this day and age, i'm sure many viewers feel the same. integrity seems so rare on youtube
@ToolDudeAnonymous3 ай бұрын
I second this. It’s the reason why I believe this channel is the GOAT in tool testing
@PerroneFord3 ай бұрын
100% I have bought more than a couple tools based on the reviews here. The no BS, no frills approach is why I subscribe. Awesome channel.
@0ptixs3 ай бұрын
The few channels I watch regularly are the channels that show honesty and integrity. In this day and age of AI, it's become the thing I value over just about everything else.
@ouch10113 ай бұрын
Integrity is rare in the world in general, especially when money is involved (look at any political system anywhere in the world, for example)
@fireshot223 ай бұрын
Thank you for testing all the battery size types! No other channel has tried this
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
For people curious, the Gen 1 M12 does ABOUT the same on average between an XC6 and 5HO for us: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ3dYmqkp5J0m68
@user-user7072 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannelhave you tried the 3.0 battery the round one tho not the square one.
@jamesfair9751Ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannelthe xc4.0ah should technically do better than the xc6.0ah simply because of the discharge rates of the cells used in each that is why the new HO5.0 beats the others. What I’m curious about is the 3.0ah and xc3.0ah.
@TOOL_TECHNICAL3 ай бұрын
the honesty of cancelling your order to avoid an over-built version straight from Milwaukee is well done. 1st waves to big channels are usually really beefed up and the ones on the shelf can be nice but not always whats on paper advertised.
@LukeA_553 ай бұрын
Would've been interesting if he got that one and then bought another from HD in a couple months to see if they give out beefed up versions
@TOOL_TECHNICAL3 ай бұрын
@@LukeA_55 true but too late milwaukee is watching these comments. Brands know TTC isn't afraid to show the lack of quality control lol.
@LukeA_553 ай бұрын
@@TOOL_TECHNICAL absolutely, I'm glad he tested all the different batteries. I knew 400+ ft/lbs was asking a lot out of those tiny batteries but I didn't think there would be that much difference
@LukeA_553 ай бұрын
@@TOOL_TECHNICAL I wonder if they're going to come out with forge batteries for the M12 line
@JackJackKcajify3 ай бұрын
And please explain how they are beefed up? are you saying milwaukee is modifying the internals and sending those modified non stock tools to tool reviewers? SUUUURE BUDDY suuuuure lmao
@wrongtool3 ай бұрын
That was a rollercoaster. When I started watching I was thinking "oh no, I'm gonna have to replace my M12 stubby if there's a new model with double the beans", but by the end of the video I'm very happy with what I have. Thank you for the good work you do!
@rickhouston21443 ай бұрын
😂 was right next to ya
@saiiiiiii13 ай бұрын
Why though? What makes you not want it?
@echo58273 ай бұрын
I mean still double the beans, just doesn't make you dumb for owning last gen since you need new battery
@auntjanet23463 ай бұрын
@@saiiiiiii1 Having to use the trigger to change modes.
@saoz33 ай бұрын
yeah it's really enticing but the mode selector thing along with the higher battery drain is a deal breaker for me. I'll just keep using my gen 1 as a daily driver and if I absolutely NEED beans in a tight space I can pull out an air tool.
@djjd30273 ай бұрын
They absolutely met their claims. But they didn't get there with magic and pixie dust. There was some serious engineering and some compromise to get there. Weather or not it's worth it is up to the individual purchasing it. One of the coolest and most complete tests I've ever seen.
@jay-sk7bl3 ай бұрын
Weather?😂😂
@LightSaber123453 ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdictit can remove 600 ft•lbs torqued bolts shown in other videos. TTC doesn't remove bolts for some reason
@djjd30273 ай бұрын
@@jay-sk7bl grammar nazi I see
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
@@LightSaber12345 To be fair, the only reason this video doesn't include bolt removal is because the tool wouldn't do any removing at 14:43. Doesn't prove anything either way though, bolt removal is dependent on how its set up. Bolt size, thread pitch, condition, socket size. Can't calibrate for any of those things before testing each time when nut busting, which is how brands like to keep it.
@ronblack78703 ай бұрын
@@CPthetooladdict claim 400 ft lbs with 550 nut busting. so they got the 400 . ttc doesn't do nut busting
@carloseduardomartinezjimen83 ай бұрын
Finally we get to SEE an objective perspective of this tool
@MrKweezy23 ай бұрын
Next time that happens with the manufacturer samples, you should accept the sample tool and then test it versus one you bought from a physical retailer to see if any oems are playing games
@realandrewhatfield3 ай бұрын
Finally! Am I the only one that feels the brand trying to sneak you pre-release tools a bit scammy??? Seriously good numbers though!
@Z-Ack3 ай бұрын
Yea but gotta give their advertising dept a pat on the back for trying as hard as they did.. makes you wonder how the tools they wanted ttc to buy really chooched…
@PedroDaGr83 ай бұрын
It's HIGHLY scummy and totally unexcusable! Such a clear and blatant attempt to influence the results of the testing definitely sours me some on the brand. The dumb thing is that this tool performed well, yet they still tried to influence the results. Makes you wonder how much they have tried on their less well performing tools.
@zorgzev963 ай бұрын
Someone at marketing was grinding hard lol.
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
This happened as a result of our community post showing the shipping dates being delayed, the most likely reason is they were attempting to get our order filled a few weeks before everyone who pre-ordered like we did.
@buklao3 ай бұрын
Completely scummy. To go to that level of finding out exactly what site and where they ordered, just scummy. It goes back to their corporations being unhinged and think they can get away with bad behavior because they have an established name and a big fan base.
@cyclechris65913 ай бұрын
Incredible graphics for easy comparison, absolutely genius on your part. Thanks so much!❤
@FunkFPV3 ай бұрын
LoL at Milwaukee trying to back channel you a test unit 😂 It looks like a pretty good tool. I’ll have to pick one up and see how I like it compared to my old DeWalt.
@randomprojectsusa51963 ай бұрын
Dewalt supremacy funk, you know this😂
@ParchmentKH77ftw3 ай бұрын
This video was seriously one of your best ever. I really appreciate the work you do. You're a game changer for the industry.
@Pippy13 ай бұрын
Ive avoided every single other video about the new stubby until this one came out. This blew away even my wildest expectations and since i already run a 5ah on my gen 1 it seems like a no brainer
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
I'd agree
@LightSaber123453 ай бұрын
Check out shop tools reviews. It can undo 600 lbs•ft torque bolts in 10 seconds with the 5Ah HO battery
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
@@LightSaber12345 don't they also remove 500, 550 ftlbs with impact drivers over there?
@wyattp91523 ай бұрын
It might have been interesting to see if they sent you a "golden" sample compared to the retail one.
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
We've thought about it before, but there's channel rules for a reason . If we knowingly accept a tool from a brand sent specifically for our channel once, it's no longer a rule. Based on how this tool performs I doubt they would even need a golden sample for it to amaze, but no doubt most are probably also using that 5Ah as well when noticing that performance.
@SnifferSock3 ай бұрын
@TorqueTestChannel testing the free stuff compared to the store would be neat to see but not worth it imo.
@wyattp91523 ай бұрын
@@SnifferSock this is what I was talking about. Keeping them honest.
@edwardoavila76663 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel I suppose if you were to test free stuff you should probably just preface the video by saying 'these are samples' and put them on their own separate ranking, or even do a direct comparison between one they send you and one you buy yourself.
@montecorbit82803 ай бұрын
If they are doing some sleuthing to find that out, there is a good chance that there was a golden sample or three involved, but we won't find out now. Maybe the next time that happens, the video could be one of those "jokes on you, we're onto your shenanigans" videos....then you could send that golden sample off to One of your viewers. I know you got rules, but breaking the rule were specific case because of a specific video might be an interesting video in and of itself. The idea would need some fleshing out, but it could make for an awesome video!! Thank you for another awesome video!!!!
@DITH85Күн бұрын
I use a gen one in the real world as a mechanic and have done for 3 years now. And I still argue its the best dang impact wrench I've ever bought. What it will spin off, still after 3 years, impresses me. Its light and gets almost anywhere, I rarely go for my 1/2" M18 wrench unless its something really big or stupidly tight. I doubt I'll be going for this new one because that trigger switch thing just looks annoying as hell to use and I'm not keen on forking out for more battery tech tbh. Great video as always
@ritesaidme3 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this episode for it seems an eternity. Woohoo!
@anythingandeverything1258Ай бұрын
I work as an emergency roadside mechanic. Only reason i plan for the upgrade is simple... In my line of work more light in the dark is always better and more power in the same package is nice when your trying to limit how much space your using on the truck. I rarely burn through a battery on a job unless im using my grinder or my drill so its no problem for someone like me to keep 1 battery married to the gun so i keep the added power benefits.
@PhillyFixed3 ай бұрын
Wow, this is an impressive tool. One thing Milwaukee has a record of is superior power/size ratio. I hope it proves to be durable long term as well.
@chickenhawk2123 ай бұрын
I love that your channel and others are keeping the manufacturers honest. Hopefully we’re done seeing brands build their name and then race to the bottom as they try to coast on their previous accomplishments like we used to see in the 80s and 90s with brands like craftsman, skill, and black and decker. You sir are a champion
@techschoice3 ай бұрын
Thank you sooo much for the video !! We picked up 190 3/8 impacts today !!! Ready to ship
@ImPurrry3 ай бұрын
As someone who likes to use the 2.5 battery on the 1st generation, a near 100 ft Ibs gain for practically the same footprint is impressive. It also makes more than the DeWalt which is obviously bigger while also being restricted on power. If Milwaukee makes a forge M12 batteries which I pray they do, I fear what this little stubby could do to the point where I honestly think it would break.
@bryaneltzroth88333 ай бұрын
Milwaukee said "sure let's LS swap a Miata and put it for sale on the dealership lot."
@GrabLifeByDaPoosy3 ай бұрын
When I first read your post I thought you said Makita. 😂
@secret5.3 ай бұрын
Getting off work on a Friday and watching TTC is how I like to start my weekend!
@BustahNutt3 ай бұрын
Those 5 amp HO batteries are $70 on Amazon. They’re OEM. I’ve bought 3 of them and opened them up to make sure they have the new Samsung cells and they do.
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
We also bought one of those, curious, last week. Will post a link unless the seller changes
@jonathanshaw88683 ай бұрын
Home depot has a sale for two 5.0 with a free tool or a third 5.0 for 200 dollars right now.
@Alex68dash3 ай бұрын
@jonathanshaw8868 that home depot deal is so good right now. I got the high speed ratchet and a radio for $280 after doing the refund trick
@damon20r3 ай бұрын
@@jonathanshaw8868 Too bad they don't have the new stubby as one of the tools. Although there are a couple pretty enticing ones.
@LukeA_553 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel did the original stubby show much of a difference between batteries also?
@chiparooo3 ай бұрын
Appreciate your transparency. That’s what makes this a great channel! Really impressive numbers from this tool. Was a little disappointed in the speed interface change, but after your disassembly I understand why they had to do it. Great info as always. Thanks for sharing!
@someusername1213 ай бұрын
I got mine last week and tested the tightening torque with a 5aH batt. Mode 1 is 15-30ft-lbs depending on how long you hold it. Good for all M8 bolts, would break M6 if you didnt do a quick zap. Mode 2 is instantly 75ft-lbs so it can zap on lug nuts but it will overshoot hard if you’re not fast on the trigger. Bolt mode seems to be 15ft-lbs.
@LightSaber123453 ай бұрын
How did you test it?
@someusername1213 ай бұрын
@@LightSaber12345 lug nut on my car with a snap on torque wrench to tell me when the nut moved. So yeah it’s not scientific because the weight of a 19mm socket vs smaller ones, and static thread friction. But it’s just a ballpark for running fasteners down and knowing it’s not going to snap instantly. So I obviously couldn’t test mode 3 cause that would snap the stud.
@Nate-pc9ox2 ай бұрын
I bought this off my neighbors tool truck. I work in the HVAC/R industry and I use this for breaking bolts loose on compressor feet. I love this tool. It gets in spaces that I would normally have to do by hand and bust my knuckles on. The battery drain is real. But it doesn’t bother me if I don’t have bloody knuckles anymore.
@modernageauto3 ай бұрын
I got mine yesterday. It's a powerful little sucker, but I've already found myself accidentally changing the power level by bumping the direction switch into neutral without noticing
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
What kind of man doesn't occasionally blip the throttle 2 times to make sure the tool is operating to spec :D Does Milwaukee not know the man code??? The tools easier to get into neutral than all their others as well.
@cpftank093 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannelit must be built into us. Can’t grill without clicking the tongs either. It’s a primal urge I’m sure of it. lol
@robertdascoli9493 ай бұрын
They should have done it like Makita where there's a separate switch above the trigger that cycles modes. I never hit it accidentally.
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
@@robertdascoli949 Looks like the new PCB they moved forward for motor space is in the way of that spot now
@onecleangti3 ай бұрын
Just like the double wobble in a manual car to make sure it’s not in gear! Haha
@Dcalvert922 ай бұрын
If you have issue with draining the battery fast, run it on a lower setting. Rarely do we need 550 out of a stubby but it’s nice to have. I’m heavily invested in Milwaukee, I have never warrantied a tool or battery out of my 10 years as a heavy equipment mechanic. You will not regret buying this tool or any others.
@noahhastings61453 ай бұрын
The double tap mode switch is an absolute no go. That's gonna get activated all the freaking time.
@macattack13923 ай бұрын
Agree. I do that all the time without thinking. Plus, It's all over online, showing what people do when They get handed an impact. If it was 3 clicks or more, I'd be ok with it.
@DavidMartens13 ай бұрын
Double tapping an impact is natural instinct encoded in human DNA.
@MrDitaliano3 ай бұрын
it has to be in neutral to switch modes i believe
@ThisisForTheTV3 ай бұрын
Yeah that's gonna break some bolts off.
@Tanner_Teves3 ай бұрын
I mean how often are you doing that in neutral? It has to be in neutral in order to change. Won’t do it in forward or reverse
@sage52963 ай бұрын
Honestly it's crazy that companies are paying enough attention to you to try to expedite your orders like that. It shows that they're definitely noticing you and I'm sure they're noticing the impact y'all have too with your testing! Keep up the great work!
@Deepwaterjew3 ай бұрын
Personally, I really like the new mode select. Biggest thing i like it for when im under a car, holding the tool, and holding something in my other hand. Ive had it on the low setting, and clicked it to high without needing to do some weird contortionist shit with my hand to select a higher mode. Just bump it to locked, and double tap a couple times with a pause between them.
@cosmicallyderived29 күн бұрын
Really impressive footage and breakdown, very forthcoming and transparent. Much appreciated.
@reginalb1243 ай бұрын
I have the 2.5 HO, and I am completely OK with the performance from that and have no current plans to go and get that 5. I got this tool specifically for size, and driving 3/8 sockets. I only just bought in to m12 a few weeks ago because I needed a new Dremel (switch on my super old one is giving out) and I wanted a cordless one, so I got the kit with the free project light. And I got this to spin 3/8 sockets. It performed really well with that 2.5 IMHO. If I need more power I'll just go and grab a bigger impact, pretty impressed by this little thing.
@sythenalpha20373 ай бұрын
or if needed you could buy an individual battery for $65 and have it as a backup but still gen1 levels of torque on a 2.5amp battery is really good
@MechanicalMercenary3 ай бұрын
I love my milwaukee dremelsni have 2 one set up for grinding tungsten and the other for tig prep work
@Truthteller21453 ай бұрын
I’m so happy you did a review on this, I have no need to replace my older m12 1/2” but want to. As far as the new mode select and its usefulness, I’m here to say in my use case it’s perfect, and here’s why. I use this impact for bolting up low pressure pipe and hoses, think 2”-6” 150 flange, and a lot of times I’m holding one hose near the flange while another person holds the next up, if you send it even on 2 you’ll birdmouth the flange and have to loosen it, so it’s best to put it on the fourth mode that stops at low torque. I really like the ability to not lift a 50lb piece of hose onto my should so I can use two hands to change modes. I really hope this comes to the 3/4 m18 impacts, the bottom mode switch gets hit all the time with gloves and even though it’s only a few seconds to stop, it stops eight people rigging up between operator, spotters, techs, etc and gets everyone pissed.
@andrewscott88923 ай бұрын
At home Depot right now You can get a kit with 2 ho 5.0 and charger for $199 and get free tool, return free tool and You've got the 2 batteries and charger for $110
@billytoddwisepenny428318 күн бұрын
Yeah, channel is pretty awesome...very awesome. It goes far beyond anything else out there, except for Project Farm, but they present content from a somewhat varied view. So I go to both for anything about tools buying.
@colincarr50283 ай бұрын
Not all that experienced as a mechanic, I'm a plumber but my stubby dewalt DCF921 broke CAT c32 motor head bolts free with a 9amp 60 volt flex battery. It got through 5 bolts before killing the battery, but it did get them out. Just for clarity this was off of a old excavator that was abandoned in the woods.
@hngbros83463 ай бұрын
When my DCF921 broke the rusted axle nuts free on my pickup I almost shed a tear. What a brave new world we live in.
@colincarr50283 ай бұрын
@@hngbros8346 same here man
@colincarr50283 ай бұрын
@@hngbros8346 same here man
@Dave-ct1jk3 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this for a month! Thx so much for your work.
@jonathanshaw88683 ай бұрын
Amazing, but that battery drain is a bit of a deal breaker for me. Even though my service box truck has power for lights and charges, the thought of having to go plug in a battery every 30 minutes seems a bit irritating.
@NonieTools3 ай бұрын
M12 batteries are pretty cheap. Most of us with a few M12 tools have plenty of batteries. I have 6 M12 tools and 10 M12 batteries. Almost all of them came free with the tool
@jonathanshaw88683 ай бұрын
@NonieTools I'm right there with you, but point is why... when the mid torque can do more with a longer run time. When you push mechanical things to their limits... you get to find the limits. Time will tell I guess...
@DarylOsterАй бұрын
@jonathanshaw8868 the power is only taken out of the battery on a nut so tight the gen1 won't remove it...
@jonathanshaw8868Ай бұрын
@DarylOster yeah.... that's not how it works... bigger motor = more windings = more current = shorter battery run time. Even at no load it's going to draw more amperage
@madjackgamingandfitness4983 ай бұрын
I feel like you’ve been the only honest one about this impact. The battery information is something to highly consider. It makes me think the dcf921 Is still worth hanging on to since battery life isn’t a big issue a 4ah last me about a week.
@cobuck40073 ай бұрын
Finally, an actual head-to-head with Gen 1. I’ve been wondering why none of the early reviews bothered to compare actual performance.
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
When working with brands they almost always don't allow you to compare the tool vs anything else, just show/test the tool and comment on the new tool.
@reaperreaper50983 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannelAlternatively, they might also specify that you compare the latest & greatest against a older/weaker model that definitely WASN’T their previous best. Like the Ryobi Edge being compared to the most basic 4Ah they sell, instead of the HP 4Ah
@LightSaber123453 ай бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel lol I didn't know that
@Pareto992 ай бұрын
Man this video is insane.. i usually subscribe to like 1 channel every year. First video and you got me instantly
@user.A93 ай бұрын
You should have accepted the tainted sample to test against a random retail sample.
@fernandodejesus55193 ай бұрын
I feel like this is the reason this channel was the one of few who didn’t get to test it before it came out. They knew it was gonna be bad. I still got it from Home Depot and excited to try it
@stevenlatham43973 ай бұрын
As long as you would’ve been 100% honest and transparent like you always have, it would’ve been pretty sweet to see what they were trying to sneak you.
@jaydunbar75383 ай бұрын
Probably nothing, with the way his test turned out they probably just wanted the good publicity out asap for the launch
@linkmclaughlin6174Ай бұрын
Been waiting on this one, picked up my M12 stubby as my first impact gun about 2 months ago and it’s been fantastic so far. I’m as much of a miser as the next guy but I feel very well satisfied with the purchase of the kit + an extra 5.0 high output battery
@harlanborders9433 ай бұрын
Did y’all try it with a 4 , in the past that 4 has been a top pick for power over the 6 . I also would like to know about the longevity of the tool. The way they built it and the heat don’t think I will be rushing out for one my old stubby still going fine . Give it a few years see how it holds up.
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
Workshop Addict looks to have tested with the 4ah as well
@redeyedfreaks3 ай бұрын
Man I had just picked up a 923 before the gen 2 was announced and I was holding my breath the entire episode. Crazy performance under ideal conditions thats for sure. Although the battety compatibility and drain coupled with the mode selector make me feel a little better.
@Wrobo693 ай бұрын
Are we gonna see the new Milwaukee batteries anytime soon
@graneguy843 ай бұрын
Terrific video showing the different batteries! I was looking up my recent Home Depot order and had an ad for the Ryobi FVRC51K. It's a 3/8 ratchet for 79. It's rated for a knuckle busting 10 ft/lbs @ 220 rpm. It would be cool to add that to the showdown list.
@kanehoward70503 ай бұрын
I was sold until you uncovered that it won't make the beans with the stubby batteries.... Glad you brought this to surface and that I was not deceived in thinking it could do the max torque also with a stubby.
@steffendetrick3 ай бұрын
Even with the smaller battery it still outperforms the previous Gen so I don’t know why everyone complaining. With a 2.5 ho it still puts out the same amount as the DeWalt 20volt.
@sinnombre2232Ай бұрын
Excellent content! Really appreciated the battery comparison for torque level outputs.
@brandon20763 ай бұрын
When are ya'll getting your hands on the DCF964? I want to see if it has greater potential with the 3/4 anvil it should have had from the begining
@craigjoe86913 ай бұрын
Shout out to the goat that has that list available. Data should never be pay walled.
@enthused75913 ай бұрын
My bad if I missed it in this video or another, but have we tried the gen 1 with the 5.0? The 5.0 HO almost seems like the biggest story in M12 tools lately.
@saoz33 ай бұрын
Yeah, TTC replied with the link to it on one of the top comments here. The 5.0 HO and 6.0 actually end up making about the same numbers because the motor is the limiting factor on that tool
@WilliamBrown-bg7vm2 ай бұрын
I just bought one yesterday, made a bit of a buzz in my little tool group😂 I'ma hit a 1 1/4 bolt with a torque wrench @500 and see if it delivered the beans. I got the 3/8 due to me normally needing mid torque numbers out of my old stub, but I've got a few 5.0 batteries.... We'll see what it be
@AntonioClaudioMichael3 ай бұрын
408 ft pounds is impressive for the new gen 2 Milwaukee stubby nice Testing @torque test channel
@repoman60343 ай бұрын
Really appreciate all of the insights related to the battery!
@stans52703 ай бұрын
TBH - A 350 HO Chevy engine will only produce its HO numbers with premium/racing fuel.
@francoisloriot2674Күн бұрын
the point is they shoud advertise it.
@xianglou-l9h2 ай бұрын
Very good video, the video is very well shot and very honest.
@europana73 ай бұрын
Hummm I'll stick with my Dewalt 921 w/ 1.7 Powerstack for compactness ... can bust thru 95% of the jobs I encounter
@s0meguy809Ай бұрын
I just picked this thing up and have been using it for a week. It's a game changer. The amount of power for the size is incredible and so far battery life has been fine. I plan to get another 5.0 either way. The setting change mechanism is a non issue for me.
@therevin7Ай бұрын
Great video. That helped a ton understand what I'm buying
@davidhowell40183 ай бұрын
Ready to see dcf964 3/4 drive test please
@jesusyanes3673 ай бұрын
Been waiting for u to do this video awesome 🔥🔥
@christophermariscal62073 ай бұрын
Can't what for the forge m12
@riba22333 ай бұрын
you'll wait for a long time since 18650 tabless cells are not out yet
@LightSaber123453 ай бұрын
wait*
@mrsaul37093 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this review for so long!
@boppo27803 ай бұрын
Everyone making tools to pass Toque Test Channel's testing method.
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
We're sorry :( At least we make episodes when they continually break as well, so hopefully it's just pushing better tools out there
@elihamou69023 ай бұрын
Great review, especially showing different batteries in the mix. I would have liked to see power level 1 and 2 tested also..
@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx3 ай бұрын
that "double tap feature" is a deal breaker for me, i already know im going to get so frustrated, keep the buttons, its more bulletproof
@twentyonehertz3 ай бұрын
I preordered one, got it last week.. It's really not that bad, I like the old way better but this doesn't ruin the tool... Took off 100ftlb lug nuts easy pz and it weighs as much as my hex driver.
@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx3 ай бұрын
@@twentyonehertz yeah but the true test is when u accidentally press the trigger when ur shoulder deep in an engine bay, and not get frustrated
@twentyonehertz3 ай бұрын
@@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx its not that bad. you have to put it in neutral to change it first. I own one, its not super easy to put it in neutral.. try it first.
@sebastianhutton31762 ай бұрын
I recently got the 2nd gen since I’m new to automotive work and I didn’t have the old one or the big m18 and saw the numbers and figured I could bust a few lugs off with it as well. I have to say I completely agree with the battery usage claim. It eats up battery life quick. I removed and re tightened 8 tires and already lost a bar (20mm and 21mm lugs)
@mgmt12152 ай бұрын
Which battery were you using during that ??
@sebastianhutton31762 ай бұрын
@@mgmt1215 the 5ah high out put that comes with it
@FusionBoost2.03 ай бұрын
so basically it makes max power on one specific battery only, I think they should be clarifying that on the box in bold letters
@mmettej3 ай бұрын
bruh thats just common sense. expecting the max torque out of those tiny compact batteries is just dumb
@paul99123 ай бұрын
Dude that's common sense. Any impact is going to make max power with the best battery.
@FusionBoost2.03 ай бұрын
@@paul9912 that's not always true and videos on this very site prove otherwise
@FusionBoost2.03 ай бұрын
@@paul9912 and not always with such a big gap like these, only one battery supplies max power the rest are all about the same
@FusionBoost2.03 ай бұрын
@@mmettej even with the 4 or 6 they all make about the same power except for the 5
@Omardottcom18 күн бұрын
Man I love this channel!
@SnappyWasHere3 ай бұрын
Over 300 ft lbs with a 2.5 is still wildly impressive.
@leonardpaciora50393 ай бұрын
Thanks! Keep up the great work!!!
@stans52703 ай бұрын
One thing isn't shown on your charts is Torque per ounce. Yes, torque for every $ spent helps to make your buying decision, but that's a one time option. Every hour holding these tools counts even more when using. Just as most mechanics wouldn't use a 3/8-inch [3/4-inch] drive to do a tire rotation, most wouldn't use a 1/2-inch drive impact to take off a trans pan. 90% of the time, I would use the lightest tool that can get the job done. Perhaps this could be done as a separate introductory video.
@GioBarredo25 күн бұрын
I just bought the 3/8” version today. I was going to buy the M18 3/8” compact because I didn’t want to have to buy new batteries. But to my surprise the M12 HO5.0 batteries just price dropped in Canada. They were $98CAD each. So I bought the tool with better specs
@nikpolc34753 ай бұрын
not me, a makita fan watching this, waiting for them to make anything new ... but literally anything
@riba22333 ай бұрын
they release new tools often
@willp67133 ай бұрын
I run the gen 1 3/8” stubby with the small foot 3.0 amp hour battery as my daily driver. Would love to see the numbers on the gen 2 with the 3.0 small foot and in a 3/8” model. Love the channel and you guys do. Thank you
@ZeroFallout13 ай бұрын
I have doubts on long term reliability and usibility. Heat is the number 1 killer of electronics. The plastic shroud doesn't dissipate the heat as good as the old aluminum one. The chewing threw batteries going to be annoying as hell.
@misteramerica58933 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for this video for a moment. Audibly said "Yes!!!" when I saw it on my feed.
@namewithheld3673 ай бұрын
I returned mine. I had bought the bare tool and was running standard 2.0 Ah batteries and wasn’t getting the torque I required; I thought I had bought a dud. Plus the double tap trigger thing was simply the most annoying feature I’ve experienced in a while. Clearly they did zero actual user testing when they came up with that “feature”.
@pacman_173 ай бұрын
Videos are always appreciated.
@michaelschlarman78353 ай бұрын
A full bar in a 15 second test?? No way I would buy a tool that’s going to last maybe a full minute of work. That’s insane.
@iCutWaffles3 ай бұрын
It is for small, compact areas mostly. And you aren't impact for a minute straight with these tools, if any electric impact.
@michaelschlarman78353 ай бұрын
@@iCutWaffles well yeah that’s the point of all compact impacts, and yeah that is true if your removing only one bolt. Not so much when you’re removing multiple. You know like we need to do when working on a vehicle. 15 seconds and dropping one bar is crazy consumption. Once again I don’t need an impact that will take off 5-20 bolts before needing recharged or a new battery. My dewalt and first gen Milwaukee like depicted in this video, I can get hours of use out of, not minutes. Important you know when you’re working 8-10 hour days. I’d rather use a hand ratchet or a breaker bar than spending money on a product that won’t last me through one vehicle before needing a recharge.
@DarylOsterАй бұрын
Over 90% of fasteners will bot require so much torque - and will not drain the battery.
@michaelschlarman7835Ай бұрын
@@DarylOster lol you don’t live in the rust belt
@michaelschlarman7835Ай бұрын
@@DarylOster you’re still making some big excuses for a tool by saying that too. You will have to charge this I’d guess at a minimum 5 times sooner than any other impact. Dropping one bar in 15 seconds is insane. As I said you don’t live in the rust belt if you’re making them claims. I’ve worked on cars this impact would be dead after 5-10 bolts 😂
@jonny49843 ай бұрын
Something I would be very interested to see is a video comparing entire tool ecosystems. Buying into a battery ecosystem is expensive no matter what brand you pick and avoiding buyers remorse is something I always strive for.
@Demorthus3 ай бұрын
At last! Awesome video & finally we get to see how it really performs throughout varying tests but most notably, the batteries! It's a great tool, but up until now most ... 'creators' have merely shown it in its' best light as opposed to the more - realistic/average one ie no 5.0HO 24/7
@Ender_Wiggin033 ай бұрын
I'll keep my DCF923, no reason to upgrade to Red, and the DCF900 does anything else with ease.
@santiagosag71603 ай бұрын
I have the same set up and it’s perfect
@paulmartin23483 ай бұрын
Your channel is incredibly powerful. Milwaukee created a juiced sample to ship just for you. That is amazing how much pull you have. (I read some of the comments) I think there is a good chance Milwaukee has entire R&D and Production facility set up just to fool TTC. Also, I never fake sarcasm.
@TorqueTestChannel3 ай бұрын
I think it's safe to say there's entire countries worth of operations dedicated to making TTC tools sent out into markets we might buy tools from just on the off chance we buy them. Just look at the evidence.
@ChrisBranleh3 ай бұрын
not buying into this new m12 hype, i’ll stick to my 18v makita compact and current m12 stubby milwaukee once again creating questionable features. this m12 trigger mode adjustment and the m12 installation tool mode adjustment.
@experienceprecision54062 ай бұрын
I sold all my Dewalt 18v and All my Milwaukee 18v. This power coming from the M12 line was known about 2 years ago. Just amoung departments of large companies having salesmen come in and talk about what's coming as these large companies are shopping too tool their techs. I suggest everyone do the same if you can. Milwaukee is about to send 12v into the next level. Fraction the wieght and a fraction of tool bag take up, the 12v line is going to be insane. Technicans dream that's putting miles on his work boots a day. Cheers everyone this is going to be sweet. 🍻
@smoothhaze17303 ай бұрын
That double tap “feature” seems horrible! Unbelievable performance but man that’s almost a deal breaker for me
@LightSaber123453 ай бұрын
Power output wouldn't be possible without it
@svn59943 ай бұрын
@LightSaber12345 Bullshit. They designed that PCB so it would change modes via double tap.
@leaves29753 ай бұрын
Makes sense business-wise that Milwaukee would want to get you guys the Stubby2.0 sooner rather than later. Doubt the stubby they sent would have operated better.... There would have been one way to find out... Thanks for staying above reproach Ttc, we appreciate all you do.
@gabehill98172 ай бұрын
I am very glad I waited to get a stubby till now. I've been using the M18 compact for exactly the reason you said, but now since I have a few M12 batteries this is absolutely worth getting. Absolutely nuts for a compact to make that much.
@mrchirp3 ай бұрын
I commend you guys for the effort to maintain the integrity of the work you do. I agree that they likely wouldn’t try to juice the tools because you guys are thorough.
@TooljunkieDave52153 ай бұрын
I’ve been patiently waiting for this video!!!!
@GLI_17013 ай бұрын
Love the content....finally, a tool reviewer you can trust.
@dandantheosuman68553 ай бұрын
I have a ton of the m12 tools in my kit and I love them, but they drain so much faster than my m18 batteries so for when I need to bust out more than an impact driver I reach for my m18's, still cool to see them expanding the power and usability of the m12 tools so much