Penlights! Who Else Is Lying About Lumens as Much as Harbor Freight? Part 1

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Part 2 with pricey penlights is now up! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXzQfWWkj9iAb8k Our Amazon store includes the winners: www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel Because our amazon store ONLY includes winners. Why did we not include the Streamlight Stylus Pro or Coast? If a light that cost 2x as much as the rest won it would have been a hollow victory. But when we do more, definitely adding it! Torque of TTC is working for Astro Tools, who also make lights. TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources before making a decision!

[@codylucente]

If you use rechargable batteries or energiser lithium batteries you will get higher lumins. It will also cause them to run brighter for longer with a sharper drop off I've noticed as well. It's noticeable by eye. Please test!! Can you also test the Thrunite Ti4T or Ti4 v2. I switched to the Thrunite Ti4T from the lumintop for my job. I need firefly and something bright that fits in my pen pocket on my shirt so the chunky AA flashlights are out for me. BTW lumintop IYP365 (in your pocket 365 days/year)

[@jamisonlm3]

It's a shame AA powered lights seems to have fallen out of fashion. For the next round of testing you guys do, take a look at Lumintop's Tool series of lights. They have a 1AA and 2AA version. They're about as small and lightweight as you can get with AA batteries.

[@speedstrn]

@@codylucente To piggyback onto this idea, I'd suggest testing how much benefit you get from using better rechargeable batteries. Batteries like Eneloop, Eneloop Pro, Amazon Basics, Amazon Basics High Capacity, Energizer etc.

[@codylucente]

@@speedstrn love it. Good idea. I have both eneloop and EBL currently. One is premium and one is budget and I wouldent mind seeing the difference

[@aheroicdose]

18650s, obviously :)

[@Tammacazi10]

Please keep reviewing flashlights, no one else really tests them like this and it is very beneficial! I would really like to see the streamlight protac-1L-1AA with the cr123 and the double A

[@4673962]

Me too!!

[@caseykline2327]

Don't know if I'm the only one but I would totally love to see you guys test any of the Nebo brand flashlights. I sell them at the hardware store I work at and I'm really interested how they stack up for rechargeable flashlights

[@codemiesterbeats]

I have a Streamlight Protac2aa model that is a "large" penlight i.e. a light with a clip. (stays in shirt pocket) I have had it for about 7 or 8 years and it has been a tough bastard. I finally broke the glass lens but it was because I was using it as a pushing tool against a garden shed door latch in the winter lol. The upside is that it still works great even with the lens out of commission. The clip just snaps on but holds on for dear life, have used it so much that the clip has worn a small groove around the body of the light. I have dropped it at least 10 feet many many times. Just keeps ticking. I use Nimh batteries and change them out about once a week. One thing I found impressive was the reflector is actually one solid piece of milled metal when most lights just have a plastic reflector cone. I would like to see a comparison of "large" penlights basically the largest ones with clips.

[@hunterdan2002]

I've got the little streamlight tested here and I've been nothing but impressed with it, been using it for almost 3 years and no complaints.

[@solarsynapse]

I had an original 48Lm 2 AAA Streamlight that was good for years until I had a fit and with effort broke it in two. I tried the very inexpensive 140Lm? 2 AAA Hugsby/NoName for a while which was great in every way except it ate batteries in minutes. The last few years I have been using a 130Lm 2 AAA Trie brand. It is great so far, and it has a hard life.

[@willyck948]

Was thinking about categories and sizes for comparison I like small lights but what qualifies as a small light?!.🤔 Pen lights definitely fit in a front shirt pocket and are narrow enough to be in a class of thier own but as you get into 14500, cr123, 18650, 21700 cells how do you score them by size considering all are very different. I'm thinking you'll have to compare flashlight body displacement by measuring max width and length for pocket-ability specs maybe throw in a "/weight"😉

[@erhodes8745]

I have the energizer pen light and I love it feels nice in the and really bright for nice and easy use

[@PrincessFionaYT]

All of those alkaline lights will accept an equivalent size 3.7v lithium ion battery. They will be brighter and tun hotter. It would be interesting for you to test those with the lithium ion. If you put a lithium in the generic one it will blow the board.

[@markschaefer5703]

If you could test weapon mounted lights, that would be cool

[@Joethetoolguy]

This light series is quickly becoming one of my favs on here. Any chance you guys slam the ball on top of the tower lights nba jam style?

[@cowboy41231]

BOOM sha-ka-la-ka!

[@HFRajuncajun]

Is it the shoes?

[@derekquinones8614]

NBA street also

[@jarhead9307]

I'd like to see a run of the higher end higher cost pen lights, Coast h3pr, streamlight stylus and wedge, Fenix, maybe even surefire. Love all the content with lights, keep it up!

[@daddydiesel5889]

Yes would like to see the streamlight macro and stinger 2020 as well. I carry the micro on me everyday and love it.

[@machooke4846]

Same here. I'm not afraid to more on a tool like a flashlight that I use all the time. My only request to to keep it restricted to 2xAAA form factor "penlights". Including 2xAA size skews the results, I'm not putting a 2xAA light in my shirt pocket.

[@keylitho]

@@machooke4846 FourSevens Preon P2... :)

[@timothypeek876]

I'd like to see some of the eagtac lights, in particular d25a mkii

[@m4rvinmartian]

Spoiler fellas... they lied about their lumens too. More spoilers, you might think the FTC cares, but they don't. Amazon's lawyers don't care either. I got bored with this lying crap before the DoJ, but I considered it.

[@undissatisfied1557]

One thing to note, streamlight has an excellent warranty; they’ll fix or replace no questions asked for everything but the battery (and bulb if incandescent? Not sure on that) on all their lights. I may be a bit biased but I carry a micro stream every day and it is really good imo

[@rfrbz1269]

on top of that, they also have a parts store

[@ssclassof2000]

I have had to send a couple streamlights off for service and it was hassle free.

[@CrazyxxxUkraine]

My fav. Flashlight is a micro stream but I have lost my 5th one and can lo longer afford to throw away 30$ every time so I got a bigger cheaper one

[@joculp]

We've not had good luck with streamlight's warranty. We had several switches fail on protac hl 5x we use underground. Turns out the switches are a common failure point of these lights and specifically called out as not being covered.

[@reahs4815]

Would like to also see Fenix in these tests since they are also one of the big flashlight brands

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Fenix in this episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4m6Y42qpM2jipI We also tested one in our last headlamp episode, but its proximity sensor didn't allow us to complete testing. It did hit its lumen claim spot on though!

[@tmmcmill]

Yes, I second the fenix lights! I like the few that I have!

[@yellowdog762jb]

I have a Fenix PD35, it's a good light. I really like their weapon mount for it. The 2 AA cell E20 is ho hum, I gave mine to my daughter. The single cell LD 12 is heavier than, but probably more robust than my Lumintop AA, but it's not as bright, and it doesn't offer the option of running a 14500 battery. Fenix does sell snap on colored lens for many of their models though. I have a 1 cell AA fenix light that has a head that bends to a right angle. The metal at the joint failed. Fenix has just flat ignored at least 4 or 5 emails to the warranty department. While I own four Fenix lights now, I won't buy another Fenix when there are so many other good lights out there backed by responsive warranty departments.

[@codylucente]

As a paramedic I use the lumintop IYP365 and thrunite Ti4T because they are bright and can be dim enough to check pupils. Carry them everyday and they have been great for durability.

[@m4rvinmartian]

Lumintop has excellent customer support. I have talked extensively with Peter about his products and things to make his new products coming up better. Next versions will all support the newest Anduril Programmable UI's. And they are investing in their own Integrated Sphere at my behest, to give accurate numbers. I told them, their products are amazing and bright, don't sully your name by lying about lumens using the "math" of the specifications sheet as a crutch.

[@codylucente]

@@m4rvinmartian well the E21C and the E05C could really use a pocket clip. So I can hang them on the front of my coat so I can have my hands free while working. And if it can be a 2 way clip like the WDC18 so I can put it on my hat. PERFECT. Also it's damn near impossible to find lumintop here in Canada. Amazon has the Keychain lights but never anything bigger.

[@CountDoucheula]

Love love love my IYP365. Only thing I did was add some marine grade shrink tube in that thinner middle section. If it had an emergency strobe mode, it would be *perfect*

[@ianloyd6384]

Wish I could’ve seen the performances of the Streamlight Stylus Pro USB(rechargeable); & regular Stylus Pro (2x AAA batteries)

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We were also eying that one, though at $50 is around 2X the average cost of these so if it won it would have been a bit of a hollow victory.

[@FordRanchero289]

@@TorqueTestChannel well if y'all do, add the macrostream as well. It's claimed at 500 for a pocket light and not much bigger than the microstream

[@ianloyd6384]

@@TorqueTestChannel might be an idea? A battle of the higher end pocket lights- aka more the tech. Level lights as opposed to the DIY type in this episode? Maybe with the top 4-5 most popular. Just a thought.. you guys keep killin it! 🙌🏻 💯

[@LohTec]

Since energizer had a low mode above 100 lumens it would have been interesting to see how long it lasted there.

[@tobyhall1167]

I personally like the Olight i3T and instead of the normal AAA battery I use a 10440 battery. I have been running it that way for a couple of years now and have no issues with it. Most of my tasks I can get away with the low setting but it is nice to have high as well. My un-calibrated lumen tests put the i3T running a 10440 battery at 50 lumens on low and 400 on high. I would love to see you guys run the same test on your setup and see what how far off my numbers are.

[@Sumatra123]

I run 10440s in my titanium i3t. I think your comment is spot on.

[@TheXxRenzxX]

I’d love to see you guys test some Nightcore lights. I have a TIP SE EDC light on my keychain, it claims 700 lumens and is the same size as a key fob. It is very bright and outshines a bunch of my larger flashlights. Seeing its real output on the light dyno would be cool.

[@stans5270]

You guys [Torque Test Channel] do great work. What would your thoughts be on testing out pistol/gun mountable flashlights? Now it is understandable with the costs of these specialty lights that some gun review channels might loan you some inventory so that they can be tested for lumen claims under Quasi-Laboratory conditions. Drop testing to failure might be frowned upon. Thoughts?

[@wadidibookie_988]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJCXpqWMd6lpgKs not the same quite the same tests but a good comparison vid nonetheless

[@yousefalmarhoon6420]

Little confused for not finding Milwaukee and nitecore penlights in this list, but as always great job, I can’t get enough of this channel, keep it up!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Because our last episode was Milwaukee and nitcore and people wanted these brands instead! There's too many darn light companies!! Haha

[@caseyeldridge5557]

Milwaukee makes a crap pen light.

[@krz8888888]

Love the energiser, hate bright spots

[@TorqueTestChannel]

I'm in your court there. Especially on a penlight, who's using these for long distance illumination?

[@RyTrapp0]

@@TorqueTestChannel Yup completely agree, not bothered by the run time, just too bad it didn't hang better in the durability test. But, for its brightness, I can justify it since we're talking pen lights, I don't beat the hell out of them like I do other things LOL

[@300DBenz]

No mention of the (incredibly useless) strobe mode?

[@-tr0n]

Great test. As a HD tech, I stand behind streamlight 100%. My second choice is the Pelican 1920, an absolutely bomb proof AAA light. Used a Streamlight Microstream USB for the last 3 years, not a single problem, lasts all week on a charge. Also ran multiple Stylus Pros which lasted until they got lost (even spent 4 months in the bottom of the sump and survived). The Pelican is a beast, and even thought it's rated at 229 lumen vs the Microstream's 250, it is significantly brighter to my eyes, with a good spread. Maybe a little too bright on a new set of batteries (and the life does suffer, but it has a low setting). Anything above 200 lumen is overkill for a pen light, IMO. Both Streamlight and Pelican have lifetime warranties, and they're not shy about just sending you parts in the mail if you need a new tail cap after dropping it 20 feet. Beats any amazon special.

[@wakefieldallan]

That's what I tell my wife when she starts to complain about how expensive a small flashlight is - still haven't told her how much the light on my glock costs though...

[@flb78]

I bought a 10 pack of the amazons a while ago. They were cheap enough that when I lost one or broke one, it didn't bother me unlike when I would get a stream light stylus pro damaged.

[@thomasrogers5852]

Same here. Plus, as an electrician, the odds of it dropping from the top of a ladder are pretty high so I was glad to see it stood up to the drop tests so well.

[@walkthroughs00000]

Would love to see Milwaukee and Husky pen lights

[@sweetmatthew662]

That HF Quantum is actually a great little light. I use mine everyday at work in a diesel shop. Sure it might not last very long, but I have larger work lights for dark jobs. This one's great for doing quick checks or inspections. It stays nicely in shirt pocket and I only have to charge it maybe once a week.

[@rockenvw]

Same here for 20 bucks i love it works great for me working on transmissions

[@themadmallard]

esp if you catch the typical sale, far more justifyable at $12 than 20

[@micahreynolds3450]

same here. I use mine nightly at a truck gate for inspecting and looking at seals. After 2 years now it is still running strong. Numbers don't lie but neither does real world use.

[@Corrupted355]

That coincides with my experience. I've got a bunch of Olights, and this one is easily the worst one I own. They often give them away as free gifts during their sales. I think that says something.

[@Frank88Workz]

It really depend on use cases, i got many many flashlights and it's the one I daily carry, yeah battery life is not great but I got good nimh and just the form factor and the fact it starts on low (which doesn't destroy my night vision) sell it for me. If i know i will be using a flashlight for any duration, i will use 18650 based ones. The light you have is better than no light and if it's too big, you won't carry it everyday.

[@ty9329]

I bought an i5r during one of olights flash sales for around $25 about 3 months ago and have been using it everyday at work as a inspection/work light. Definitely bulkier and heavier than the i3r but it has been working great for me. I've dropped it dozens of times, a few of those times landing in pans of trans fluid and coolant, but besides some dents it's great. Only problem I have is the rechargeable battery they supply with it doesn't last very long. Typically lasts about 2-3 days for me with the rechargeable vs. 6 or 7 with a AA. The hat clip is super handy on both though.

[@Corrupted355]

@@ty9329 The i5r is definitely better than the i3r. I have one with a UV diode for detecting fuel leaks, and it's entirely adequate. But for day to day, I carry the Warrior Mini 2. Solid performer, and not much bugger than a pen light.

[@ucitymetalhead]

Yeah I got tired of the battery life on mine.

[@plutonium618]

@@Corrupted355 tbh kinda shocking the warrior mini 2 I'd just use the seker 2/3 pro or non pro

[@rwheelbot6241]

I feel like Nebo could use a little more attention on this series. And how about multifunction lights? I daily carry a rechargeable Nebo Trio. It is amazing and I'm known for being a little hard on things I daily carry.

[@zonkeymaker]

Yes I hope they test neebo. I got mine for Christmas and it’s the only light I’ve found worthy to carry around

[@zonkeymaker]

Neebo swyvel

[@ChiefLink]

I wish I'd mentioned my Nebo pen light! It's a great little light, just gets a bit hot when you leave it on a while. It seems a lot like the Energizer, but I think it has a better runtime.

[@thepitpatrol]

Here is one thing about all the lights. In the 1980's I bought a maglight. It was around 80.00. It ate D batteries for lunch, wasn't that bright and when you dropped it the filament in the bulb broke. Fast forward and for about 10.00 you can buy one that is 1/4 the size and out performs it all the way across the board.

[@Arisaka99]

FYI on that Streamlight Microstream, the "Coyote" color you guys bought is the only one that has high as the first click while all the other colors as far as I know are on low when you first turn it on.

[@longgone13]

Just an FYI, my black Microstream USB is high on the first click. Great little light. I also have a few the full size 2x AAA penlights (as a mechanic) and while they are good, the switch/button does fail on them after a couple years for anyone reading. Still worth the $ though IMO.

[@guitfiddle]

Put a LiIon 10440 in the i3T and you will be impressed. I use one 10440 with a spacer in my i3T plus (2 AAA sized) and it lasts much longer. Olights are extremely durable lights. I have many lumintops, Olights and Sofirn lights. I like them all for different purposes. Olight is by far best for EDC.

[@Jurry623]

I have that olight i3T. I put a 10440 lithium cell in it, very bright on the low setting & worth the upgrade for sure. They have the plus model that takes two AAA batteries instead of one that I’d like to get & use a 10900 lithium cell in for a little extra runtime

[@CollinstheClown]

Great review, however I can't help but feel olight got the shaft on this one. It's easily the smallest battery in the bunch... Comparing it to lights with double the capacity or more is a bit silly when they sell a 2x AAA light and a AA light that's not much bigger

[@wakefieldallan]

Olight is Chinese garbage.

[@CollinstheClown]

@@wakefieldallan They're all made in China, who gives a fuck?

[@retroresto7606]

Look at sure fire titan plus. 1 AAA and has 300L pricy but bright!

[@ferrumignis]

@@wakefieldallan.Olight makes pretty decent quality flashlights for the money, not the best, not the worst, yet your echo chambers can't get enough hate on them. Fanboi gonna fanboi I guess.

[@spec8473]

Not to mention, the only reason I have an i3t is that it came free with another item so it does pretty amazing for a free flashlight. I keep it on my work bag where, if I use it for an extended period we have batteries readily available.

[@chrisjones6002]

I've had the Streamlight and Olight myself for several years. The Streamlight I carry daily at work and it's been great, highly recommended. It's not too often that I have to switch to a bigger light. The switch did fall off once but a little thread locker seems to have fixed that. The Olight is pretty meh, not really bright enough to be very useful.

[@slngblde]

I am on my second streamlight microstream only because I lost the first. That first one was beat on pretty hard and I never had any issues. I lost track of how many times it went for a ride in the washing machine and it went through the dryer at least 3 times.

[@MrDagda]

I've had mine for ~3 years as a small engine / diesel tech. Got the switch warrantied from the Mac truck even though I bought on Amazon. Carry it every day with my leatherman. Was glad to see he ranked it so highly

[@slngblde]

@@MrDagda for switches and clips just send an email to streamlight and they will send the parts. I never had to for that light but I have gotten multiple clips and one switch in the past

[@longgone13]

@@MrDagda this is literally my only issue with the Streamlights, is the switch failing after a 2-3 years. Love mine other than that. - Also a heavy equipment/diesel tech.

[@farnsworth9350]

try a test with lithium-ion rechargeable AA or AAA for the constant voltage.

[@solarsynapse]

That's a good idea if the LED (and circuit?) are rated for the higher voltage going from 3.0Vmax to 4.2V max. You will also need a "dummy" cell to go with it. 2 cells would most likely be too much voltage. It will also need a way to cut-off at 3.00 Volts so as not to damage the cell. Some LED modules do that!

[@hvguy]

Thrunite: oh please test our product. Thank much very you. Finds out they're lying about lumen output 😬😬🤡

[@kevinbarrera8745]

Oh man i had been waiting for this video. Very nice. 👍🏼 But What about the Milwaukees or Nebos?

[@_AndromedaGalaxy_]

i cant believe this channel doesnt have as many subs as Project Farm. its just as good. proud to say i got here before 90k subs.

[@th600mike3]

I've owned two streamlights (AAA version) and both were fantastic lights. I lost the first after 5-6 years and bought the second without hesitation... which I also lost. Both were great quality, performed well, and did exactly what I needed. Even used it for paint correction defect spotting. It really is the one to get, worth the extra cost. I guess for me a pen light just isn't the right choice because I seem to lose them.

[@yellowdog762jb]

I have green two cell AAA penlight which I think is made by streamlight. I often use it to navigate to the deer blind so I don't spook animals. It's a great light.

[@klifestyle4466]

Do the full length stream light pen light either rechargeable or the two tripple a batteries it would have done amazing. It’s my daily driver at work and it lasts along time and is a good brightness

[@matthewbell483]

I have the Milwaukee pen light love it and use it everyday at work. Would love to how if it’s worth it’s salt in one of these shootouts. Thanks and love the content!

[@802Garage]

Mentioning general low performance from Amazon purchases reminded me. When are you going to test Wish and Aliexpress cordless impacts? 😂 Have you already and I missed it? Come on, for $45 or so you have to!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Yes. The fake makita!

[@802Garage]

@@TorqueTestChannel Oh yeeeaaah the Fakita. Gotta get the FeWalt and Filwaukee next. 😂 Great work folks.

[@matthewpeck4016]

Great video, perfectly fine selection of brands. I have a personal love of EagleTac, but they don't get the most attention generally, so not surprising there aren't a lot of people clamoring for them. Also, the reason the Lumintop would turn off when dropping but turn back on just fine is almost certainly the battery terminal losing contact during rapid [negative] acceleration. It's a common minor failure mode for swappable-battery consumer electronics. Battery dimensions often have tragically-large "tolerances", so battery receptacles rely on spring-loaded contacts. The stiffness of that contact is a tradeoff between 1) security of contact, and 2) ease of swapping and lifetime of the contact. Stiffer is more accelaration-tolerant, but also makes the battery harder to remove and with cheap consumer-grade materials faster to experience metal fatigue.

[@cydrpunk]

As a quick testament to the streamlight, a bunch of us use those things where I work and they've been through hell and back and haven't failed yet as far as I know. The oring seals are top notch and Ive done everything but completely submerge mine in oil.

[@gilbertg.8501]

I have several stream lights. I love the stylus line, you’re right they’re extremely durable. My first one I did submerge completely in about a foot of oil by accident. I also may or may not have thrown the poor thing across a parking lot once out of anger on my car. It never died. I’d still be using it but it slipped out of my pocket and was gone forever. I miss that little guy

[@kennethstephens8046]

No Milwaukee? Dang. Was looking forward to seeing the new rechargeable pen light

[@dauntlessasmr7910]

Who else is lying? Literally everyone except SureFire and a handful of other companies that have an integrating sphere to use in order to report actual lumens numbers out the front, instead of at the emitter.

[@MustPassTruck]

You forgot the [ ' ] in We'll at the end of the description. I bet you typed it correctly and spell check changed it on you.

[@NDC1115]

I've been carrying the original Streamlight Stylus Pro 2aaa for almost a decade. I get about 2 years out of them. They get dropped in hydraulic fluid, coolant, and from heights. The olight looks well made, might have to try one! Future tests of larger rechargeable, the Milwaukee 2160-21 claims 800 lumens with a long run time.

[@4673962]

I've had this stream light in my pocket for 2 years. Love it. Never lets me down. Original battery to. Well worth the $25 I payed for it. Excellent testing by the way. Thumbs way up 👍

[@sethpurvis8680]

Had a stylus pro usb get dropped in the water went back 5 days later when the water went back down and took it home charged it and 2 years later the light still works. I’m a sucker for stream lights

[@light-master]

You can get a 10440 Lithium ion battery and get a lot more light out of that Olight i3T. Doesn't last long cuz it is still the size of a tiny AAA battery, but still, really really bright like that.

[@blautens]

Let's be honest - since these are all going in someone's mouth - how to test for...mouth feel? Hmmm....

[@kenm724]

This test has done nothing but make me sure I bought the best pen light, a Coast LOL

[@TheWhiteTaco]

Having bought the Energizer for use in construction I can say that it lasted about a year with heavy use occurring more in the last 4-6 months of having it. For the price its not bad, I'm sure if you're more gentle with it and not constantly exposing it to drywall dust, dirt mud, etc. it would likely last much longer. Dust does tend to get in the sleeve causing it to be gritty feeling and the rubber cap around the on/off switch eventually ripped off exposing the switch leading to dust to get in and making it stick. Would likely buy again, but I want to give the streamlight a try and see how it lasts. Thank you for making these reviews as it really helps a lot of us from wasting our money and of course providing us with wonderful entertainment.

[@About_Stuff]

Could you try some Swiss Tech curious if they are lying or not

[@fivestander]

I’ve been carrying a non-rechargeable AAA microstream as part of my EDC for at least 5 years and I love it. Recently upgraded to the rechargeable version and it’s even better. At least half a dozen colleagues have gone out and purchased one after I used it on the job. Well done testing, as usual, TTC!

[@andrawsdaabool8595]

I like the vid before I even start watching it. I love this channel

[@jonhigbee8075]

The child inside me screaming when seeing another TTC video is released.

[@Stihlheadd]

Is it just me or do you sound like Rain Fall Projects 🤔 😕

[@djosbun]

Is that a Thrunite in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

[@ZERONEINNOVATIONS]

I'm a mechanic at car dealership. I think most employees here has COAST G20 (I have it too) that you can buy at Walmart for $10. Because this pen light has "focus" beam function. It's better than bright everywhere when you want to lit up deep inside the engine bay. Next popular pen light is streamlight.

[@anthonys7976]

With 2 years of everyday use on the Streamlight Microstream with original battery, I’m not surprised it came out on top. I have multiple $100+ SnapOn and Marco lights, but my quick go to is the Streamlight. Super bright lights have their place, but the Streamlight is tiny and goes just about everything well enough. Rarely am I so happy with a product that I just stop looking for an alternative or something better. This video confirms that.

[@andrewk8636]

Agreed and in a pinch you can clip it to your hat and use it as a headlamp. The clip on it is ridiculously strong too

[@michaelmcgregor3108]

Years ago, I bought the streamlight strion led when they first came out. I ended up buying a second one, so I would always have one charged. One lives on my belt while the other lives on the charger. They were expensive when I first brought them, but I have had almost no issues. I did have to replace the lens in one after I dropped it just right $8. That is the only repair I have made or any maintenance I have done. I bought them in 2010 and have used them every since then. Still using the original batteries. That's over 11 years for about $300 off the tool truck. They have lasted long enough now that they have become the sheapest to own flashlight i have ever had, on a dollar to year look

[@SDSWrath004]

Great video, detailed information. Personally I am never buying a flashlight of any kind unless it's rechargeable, batteries have gotten so expensive you can buy 2 or 3 lights for the price of buying batteries for a year.

[@danielmonsanto8286]

For the replaceable battery lights (except for the Amazon Special 😂) i wonder if possibly the manufacturers are testing with the best most power dense batteries they can get their hands on (i.e Energizer ultimate lithium) and then shipping the lights with the cheapest battery they can source, provided they ship with batteries at all. It's either that or they're using platinum samples.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Good point. And since there are rechargeable AA/AAA batteries, usually with a bit less capacity than alkalines, but still with a big spread, it can massively depend on the battery used.

[@user-lg7gp6fg3g]

Love these tests. Really like the straight forward approach 👍👍

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Many brands are made by another company and a different brand is slapped on them for other sellers who never even test them and aren't even capable of it. I know you knew this, but felt compelled to type it out anyway, lol. I find some of my lights are too bright, so highest lumens doesn't translate into better for me, usually. Things like battery life, heat generated and recharge time take the front usually.

[@fourtysix4646]

I’d like to see those AA and AAA LED mag lights compared with these. There is a regular and a “pro” with slightly higher lumen output. I have a feeling those mini mag lights will win durability at least if nothing else.

[@machintelligence]

I have carried a AAA LED Maglight for years since it fits so well in the side pocket of my Leatherman sheath. Super durable also. I converted it to LED from incandescent.

[@Thomamps]

I have a 25 year old mini mag (2×AAA) that is still working with the original globe. My guess for output is 3 lumens.

[@machintelligence]

@@Thomamps The conversion to LED works well, but is not cost effective any more as the new ones have come down in price close to the replacement bulb.

[@light-master]

Do you test non-rechargeable lights with the cheap chinesium batteries that come with them? Or do you put identical decent batteries in them to test?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We always use the same alkaline batteries we show here putting into the lights

[@deanm3464]

I'd love to see how Nebo stands up to its claims

[@chyraxion]

why do they add the stupid strobe

[@Frost640]

TaCtiCaL dEfEnSe, everyone is fighting off home invasions every day so we need strobes apparently.

[@Drd4all]

I love these guys keeping it real 😁🤙🏻

[@GeorgeBobeck]

I thought the Harbor Freight flashlights were just rebranded Nebo brand flashlights.

[@ucitymetalhead]

I don't know how it would hold up but i always liked my foursevens preon p2.

[@daifeichu]

I've got a few preon p2's. Great lights.

[@chspyderr]

How about Nebo Redline lights?

[@MustPassTruck]

Would be interesting to see if "Made in _____" label has an effect on honesty of specs.

[@dancearoundtheworld5360]

With Global Materials might differ results

[@issanesheiwat1396]

I just want to thank you for this comparison. I was using that dollar store flashlight for years thinking nothing could beat it for the price. After watching this, I purchased my own energizer light and I couldnt be happier.

[@timsa626]

I used that quantum light for over a year and was quite impressed how well it took abuse. Constantly falling out of my pocket several times a day. Falling in a bucket of coolant a couple of times and even running it over with a RV. It was $15 spent well if you ask me. I just recently upgraded to a stream light stylus pro and I love it.

[@blustang8316]

The quantum rechargeable penlight with the led bar is my favorite, it has a magnet on it that makes it super helpful..

[@montroseringler494]

"Over zealous lumen labelers." 😂

[@Sjackson2369]

would have liked to see the coast hp3r in the test. maybe in the future?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Maybe a best $50 penlight video sometime, with the Streamlight Stylus

[@AndrewHowe_Is_Really_Neat]

I personally use a milwaukee 2010R for on the road use. I clip it on my hat, and I'd say it's probably pretty close to its 250lm claim based off use, plus lasts like 2 hours on high.

[@nobodynoone2500]

I'd love to see a test of rechargable keychain lights. I have a bunch and constantly figting to find a decent one that I can still find a month later. Another good test, would be high-CRI lights only. I personaly only use cri lights with nichia and similar leds. The bright blue-white just look brighter but without revealing as much detail.

[@Webic33]

Need some Nitecore lights in here. I've been really pleased with the Tiny 2, MH11, and P20iX. Great build quality, super bright, and USB rechargeable.

[@trpilot6]

The Streamlight Microstream USB has been my go to EDC light for 5 years now. I my opinion it's size, light output, runtime, and the fact that its rechargeable make it damn near unbeatable for the price.

[@jewittm]

Ankers bolder line is worth a look

[@vinnyivanov2906]

I use the streamlight every day and I have been impressed from day one. It's cheap, bright and rechargeable, let's just say everyone is getting them for Christmas

[@ianloyd6384]

Actually Been waiting for this one!

[@themechanic6117]

I ordered that streamlight about a week ago. glad I made the right choice

[@alexnorth2452]

Sorry but project farm is where I get my tool related info, I shall pass on your channel

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Hah, bless ya man. Hope for your sake he does lights soon then. And that the one video includes the ones you want to see. Carry on sir

[@alexnorth2452]

@@TorqueTestChannel respect to you sir 👍

[@kens97sto171]

The Amazon one is the bargain in my opinion.. Throw some Rechargeable AAA in there and it has decent run time. I got a FIVE pack of them for $25. I keep one in each car, and a few around the house. The 1200 Lumen rating is nonsense, and everyone knows it.. just read the reviews... about 120 lumens is about right. It has decent beam, some of mine have some minor lens defects.. but not a big deal. It can easily project light far enough to read an address on the side of a house... from the road. It fits in your mouth ok.. has high med and strobe. I have used it under the hood a lot too. It lasted longer than more expensive lights in your drop test... Not bad. for a $5 light If your using a pen light on the go... delivery driver etc.. losing, dropping, or misplacing the light is a concern. I would rather lose a $5 light... If I was a mechanic... and could put in my shirt pocket.. probably less risk. I am a big flashlight collector... I have some expensive big lights.. I had a super nice 4 Sevens Preon pen light for a long time.. and lost it somehow out of my pocket, while getting out of the car. After that... cheap pen lights for my needs.

[@rogertyler3237]

I Have A 2 Tacklight Flashlights & They Bolth use lithium Ion 18650 Batterys & I've Had Them For 11 Years & Bolth Of Them Work Great

[@CAJones-bu6tu]

5.11 tactical! I would have a hard time believing there is a more durable penlight than any of theirs. I was a valet for a numbers of years. Always beefing mine up getting in and out of cars and dropping them in puddles and snow, harsh heat, etc. It’s been going strong for almost a decade.

[@mvinge]

Streamlight Microstream has been clipped to my pocket for 8+ years. It’s the size of 1.5 chapsticks. Never feels bulky and it’s always there. Only had to order a replacement clip after 8 years. Highly recommend. I don’t like the chargeable ones I want a real battery. You put a quality lithium ion battery in there it’ll last a long long time. Real flashlight beats the phone light all day.

[@boxoftj1]

it keeps being said, but i'll say it again, too. this channel is becoming one of my favorites. I was a big Olight fan for a while, but i've never had this one. Always the baton S1 and and the s2R, have lasted me several years.

[@ridermak4111]

I’m late to this party, but my biggest aggravation with any size modern flashlight is combining mode selection into the power switch. Glad to see some makers are addressing this and giving us two switches. THE POWER SWITCH SHOULD HAVE ONLY ONE JOB. ON….OFF….ON….OFF. Doesn’t this aggravate anyone else ?

[@lenzielenski3276]

These tests are a joke. Understand that current technology LEDs operate best at 3+ volts so the nominal 3.7 volts of a lithium battery is going to ALWAYS work better than a 1.25(actual)volt alkaline battery. Level the playing field and use ONLY lithium batteries! This will put most if not all the lights at or above rated listings and will be how they were actually INTENDED to be used. There is a HUGE difference in performance. For instance, in the Thrunite Archer v3 "2AA" light I run ONE lithium 14500 or AA sized lithium battery and a DUMMY cell because its noticeably brighter at 3.7v than with 2 AA batteries totaling a max of 3v (in truth, alkaline batteries only put out 1.5v for a few minutes at most, best to consider them 1.35v batteries).

[@gregoryfairchild2460]

I have a Streamline Stylus Pro I'm not sure the lumens but it's bright. I've had the same 2 AA Energizer blue batteries in it for over a year, and in use. It is all metal with a metal clip all black. The button can be held lightly for a quick use or clicked for continued use. Fixed beam.

[@765outdoors]

You are missing out on a good segment of flashlights in my opinion. 14500/AA lights. I don’t know if klarus still makes one but OLIGHT makes 1 and definitely need to check out the SKILHUNT E2A 95cri and plenty bright with a really nice diffused beam