The Curious Case of M28: Milwaukee's Little Known 28 Volt Line

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@johnfaustus1
@johnfaustus1 2 жыл бұрын
I was involved with a company that Milwaukee was working with on the injection molding side right around the time they were acquired by TTI. The M28 line was envisioned to become the mainline, but 2 things happened: - the cost of the cells made the batteries prohibitively expensive, especially for consumer but even for fleet/pro use - brushless motors and their ESCs came down in cost significantly, basically negating the need for very high voltage batteries Milwaukee went with 18V (5s LiIon) because, with fewer cells, and now cheaper BLDC motors, 28V was not needed.
@hypnolobster
@hypnolobster 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the M28 stuff felt/looked/performed like corded brushed tools with quick and dirty DC conversion. Fine for the era, but pretty outclassed for 10+ years now.
@fredygump5578
@fredygump5578 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it more like 20 years? In ~2002 I bought my first Milwaukee, a 14.4v 1/2" drill. It had a whopping 400in/lbs torque! And used NiCad batteries. I think the 28v tools were available at the same time.
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder once again when/whether anybody will start making corded brushless tools.
@fredygump5578
@fredygump5578 2 жыл бұрын
@@rpavlik1 To be precise, a brushless motor is a 3 phase motor. You can probably imagine the issues that would come up with a corded 3 phase hand held power tool! First of all, you don't have 3 phase, so you would need a VFD for the tool.
@Hyratel
@Hyratel 2 жыл бұрын
a transistorized brushless on Line Voltage? now that would Kick Beans
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredygump5578 right, I know. But you could in theory rectify the line voltage and then drive a BLDC just like a battery. My furnace has an "electrically commutated" blower motor, which is just another way of describing a BLDC motor.
@Kingsoupturbo
@Kingsoupturbo 2 жыл бұрын
More retro reviews! I'd love to see how the 18v milwaukee stuff from 20 years ago does that I used back when I was a cable guy in Toronto (well, the other guys had these, I dreamed of one, mostly I ran giant extension cords to power my trusty Makita hammer drill)
@jwiz1911
@jwiz1911 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to have too many DP jokes…I’m glad you were able to sneak one in.
@GotMyChevy
@GotMyChevy 2 жыл бұрын
Fucking nailed it
@infodump-withallib4385
@infodump-withallib4385 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I grew UP on this impact! My dad ran V28/M28 until this year, actually, when I got him the M18 Hi-Torque for Father's Day this year. It waited until then to give up. They're wonderful old tools.
@GSWEAR66
@GSWEAR66 2 жыл бұрын
I still have a M28 1/2" hammer drill that is probably 15+ years old and still works good! All my other cordless stuff is newer M18 fuel.
@jacksonroad9263
@jacksonroad9263 Жыл бұрын
just saw this. im a m28 collector. i have the full seat even the radio. this is the best set Milwaukee made
@aaronatwood9298
@aaronatwood9298 2 жыл бұрын
That battery mounting setup is a holdover from the nicd 18v, v18, and v28
@e_filippo
@e_filippo 2 жыл бұрын
We had one of these at my last job, as well as an M28 hammer drill and (I think) sawzall. I really wasn't too impressed with them - most of us just went for M18 or DeWalt before grabbing an M28.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I briefly used an M28 sawzall for a job and found it to my liking power vs vibration wise. I pretty much completely forgot about the line of tool until this popped up in our inbox.
@baysidemarine9606
@baysidemarine9606 2 жыл бұрын
I had most of the M28 tools. The hammer drill was way too heavy and the impact not all that impressive
@Crewchief227
@Crewchief227 2 жыл бұрын
You can count on DP putting in work on the bottom🤣 Subscribed just for that
@takerez306
@takerez306 2 жыл бұрын
Our Rescue Squad uses M28 Milwaukee batteries to power the Jaws and Cutters. And that's putting out over 100k lbs/ft²
@dandeeteeyem2170
@dandeeteeyem2170 2 жыл бұрын
First time I used one I nearly sprained my wrist. I got sick of the lack of power in battery drills years ago in Australia and imported one from the US. The battery reversal is not for tight spaces BTW, its to change the centre of gravity to make it easier to use.
@baracktrump1410
@baracktrump1410 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the majority of the M28 tools sold are to fire departments, or were, a lot are switching from the M28 to the M18 on there fire apparatus, but lots of M28 still in service.
@corystansbury
@corystansbury Жыл бұрын
I have the corded version of this tool. It completed many a job for me and was basically indestructible. But my M12 now gets 100% of the jobs this did.
@brett9732
@brett9732 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO "The cadillac eldorado of impacts" that was classic material TTC you guys are great! Keep it up
@LilFoxAK
@LilFoxAK 2 жыл бұрын
its official. every couple weeks make a video of older tools. some old old air impacts are still being used today
@nicholaslacovara2381
@nicholaslacovara2381 Жыл бұрын
I still have the M28 drill, circular saw and sawzall. Batteries are all dead now. 😢. The switching the battery help overcome the size issue with the M28 cordless drill. To be fair to the M28 it is 20 year old technology. Another great video! PS can we get mancaver to frankinstien the M28?
@evracer
@evracer Жыл бұрын
DP always putting in the work on the bottom.....Noice.
@NA-pg4lf
@NA-pg4lf 2 жыл бұрын
First, I love your channel. Why is there no love for corded electric impacts. In my line of work I rely on my corded tools. I tried cordless but they don’t last long enough to get one small task done but the corded do it without a sweat. I cannot use air tools.
@nathandick4587
@nathandick4587 2 жыл бұрын
Do you keep a straight face when you prepare the dialog on these reviews? Because I sure don't listening to them. I don't think I've ever heard a better mix of actual good honest information with sly dialog. Keep it up! Not only do you directly influence my buying choices, you make me chuckle the entire time I'm learning. One of the best review channels out there!
@zachyoung5598
@zachyoung5598 Жыл бұрын
"can always count on DP doing work on the bottom" fucking sent me
@WanderingDad
@WanderingDad 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 28v hammer drill over 10 years ago, if it hung up it would killl you like a rodeo bull. When the battery went bad, it cost more than the tool so I trashed it.
@Mister_Brown
@Mister_Brown 2 жыл бұрын
those drills are great but yeah $$$ i've had mine for over 10 years but i also have a battery spot welder
@deadman12078
@deadman12078 2 жыл бұрын
Had the M28 and M18 combo kits. Bought back in 2007
@antibrevity
@antibrevity 2 жыл бұрын
These tools were originally designed for the *V28* platform, but the batteries were soon "upgraded" to to create the M28. The V28 used 7 oddball 26700 cells (mine were made in Canada) and good luck finding them. Unfortunately, the cells were turds and this is likely why they switched to M28, which at least used then-standardized 18650's, though it needed 14 of them. I got mine in March of 2006, when Milwaukee was marketing the V28 battery as having "more than 10 years of research and testing", claiming that it was the arrival of lithium-ion tools that could replace corded equivalents. In reality, the 28-volt product lines rapidly became obsolete as M18 sales figures came in. I took my batteries to a service center a year or two after purchase to be tested, but they had no way to test capacity and simply reported that the cells were all 4.1V (balanced) and thus didn't quality for warranty work. I felt rather abandoned after investing $750 in a kit of these tools, as M18 turned out to have a much longer lifespan. In fact, Milwaukee's own "history" web page skips over V28/M28 entirely and implies that M18 and M12 were its first li-ion power tools, which were later upgraded to FUEL, though I can find no detailed history anywhere online before FUEL was introduced in 2012. Milwaukee even says, "We would continue to invest in new technology without the need for our users to change platforms - we’d never leave them behind." So I guess those of us who invested in the wrong platform no longer exist to them :( . I knew some other folks that moved to V28/M28 and most regretted it as M18 remained viable after V28/M28 died and was never spoken of again. I like the V28 tools, which are indeed "heavy" duty and loved the whole platform at first as this was the first battery circle saw and sawzall that allowed me to leave my drop cord in the truck, but the batteries had terrible Winter performance and began showing noticeable loss in runtime after just 6-8 months of work as an HVAC contractor. My tools are still perfect, but the batteries have been useless for over a decade and I'm trying to figure out how best to replace the cells with 21700's or 26650's or to at least create a 24-28V AC power adapter for them; these packs had a nominal voltage of 25V. 26700's are just a strange size, making replacement difficult as the case and frame were made to fit. Today's battery tools are awesome, but old Milwaukee corded tools will last longer than a human lifetime, while battery tools become useless if you don't or can't purchase new batteries occasionally. I've got a hand-me-down Milwaukee corded drill that will work perfectly long after I'm gone. Cordless tools are convenient, but they're also convenient for company shareholders.
@djazt.8053
@djazt.8053 Жыл бұрын
About replacing the cells in V28 batteries: I propose you rather get some dead M28 batteries (over here available for 10-20 USD equiv. on eBay) and send them to a company to re-cell. For a power adapter: some old 24 V lead-acid battery charger with 30-40 A output will do (those not having microchips for charge control). (I often run my M28 tools from 2×12 V AGM lead-acid batteries in my truck, using an adapter made from a dead battery and SpeakOn STX 40 A connectors. Works well, no issues at all.)
@toyotatundra0455
@toyotatundra0455 2 жыл бұрын
I can't afford Milwaukee tools. I hope you continue testing the handtools. Thanks for the videos and I'll look for the next one Friday.
@MINe19830522
@MINe19830522 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Milwaukee "Hatchet".. it's an articulating sawzall.. couldn't find the battery for it so I rigged one of my Bosch 5ah and it moved well .. but I'm thinking now that it belongs to that m28 setup
@Raoul-Duke604
@Raoul-Duke604 2 жыл бұрын
My old (pre lithium ion) Milwaukee drill had the reversible battery too! So handy I wish they kept it
@John-do9ei
@John-do9ei 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually curious about a lot of these old tools. I have an old Dewalt 18 volt that I still use occasionally with an M18 adapter.
@arthurmaxham4556
@arthurmaxham4556 2 жыл бұрын
The V28 battery uses a 26700 cell. The first battery - ( cells made in Canada ) lasted better than replacement batteries. My old batteries show a full charge but do not deliver the amps to run a saw or drill. Try the test with a brand new M28 battery. Just my opinion, the 28 volt line of tools were well built but the batteries fell short. The tools draw more amps than the battery can supply = short battery life.
@luisinhoens90
@luisinhoens90 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the 1st crop of 18V/20V brushed high torque impacts like the DeWalt DCF889 I used to own. When I got it replaced with the DCF899 I tested them both on my truck's wheels and suspension and there was no contest in speed and torque. The only thing I liked about the 889 more is its instant response to the trigger, something that I haven't been able to find on any Brushless tool be it Red, Teal, Blue, Yellow, Orange or Lime (the ones I've owned so far) PS. It would be great if you can either get your hands on some 1st gen high torque brushed 18V/20V tools like the DCF 889 (or its Craftsman and Porter Cable clones) , Milwaukee's 2663-20 or Makita's XWT04
@TheColinputer
@TheColinputer 2 жыл бұрын
I remember buying a V28 kit back many many many years ago. At the time it was a huge upgrade over the Makita Nicad stuff i had (the red pod batteries) Then later had to buy a couple of newer M28 batteries (M28 was sort of the 2nd gen rebrand of V28). But very quickly was forgotten. Seems Milwaukee put their RnD into M18 and just sort of left M28 to die. But you can still get the batteries
@tomwilliams8675
@tomwilliams8675 Жыл бұрын
Did you say the battery had that reverse cow girl action?🤣😆😂😁 Of course you've got to love it that way!
@BlindMansRevenge2002
@BlindMansRevenge2002 2 жыл бұрын
I bet a lot of old timers who invested in those tools years ago are kicking themselves in the butt because of what is out today!
@davidperry4013
@davidperry4013 7 ай бұрын
I want to see you test out a first gen M18 Fuel impact driver from 2012.
@aaronpantell1038
@aaronpantell1038 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool you can buy a brand new tool and an antique all at the same time lol.great video.
@johnnyteague3407
@johnnyteague3407 2 жыл бұрын
I remember them well ,I purchased the hammer drill, also I remember the 24vt nicad DeWalt and the 36volt DeWalt
@stevenoe6395
@stevenoe6395 2 жыл бұрын
First time i have seen the 28v i have a old 24v rigid kit from 06 that still has amazi g power for a hammer drill. Wonder how that 28v would do with a new max torq m18 motor in it would probably still be smoth but should be super powerful just a thought. Thanks for another cool video and thank you for your videos i started using Milwaukee since i started watching your videos a year ago. Have a good day!!!!!!
@tshackelton
@tshackelton 2 жыл бұрын
How about testing the current non-fuel/brushed m18 impact? It's still for sale...
@BryC89
@BryC89 2 жыл бұрын
Now time to figure out how to rig a m28 battery to the high torque m18 tool
@blautens
@blautens 2 жыл бұрын
I almost thought this was an April Fools edition.
@user-cs1ne8gx9u
@user-cs1ne8gx9u 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks guys
@huntley513
@huntley513 Жыл бұрын
I wonder just how much battery it would take to make max torque (max performance on the dyno) before it broke, i will say this with an ignorant tone, just keep adding car batteries, 3 batteries 36 volts,4=48,5,6?,,,I may be completely wrong but if you have a ton of amps and just keep uping the volts that dumb brushed motor doesn't know the difference, it should put out more power and speed to spin that light weight hammer,,,what would fail first? The uncaptured planet pins? Melt the brushes out of the motor? You have taught us well Oh Great Sir...But I would love to know if the bearings help...I have this on my todo list,I'm going to put a roller thrust bearing and bearing on the anvil shaft and see if it helps,,,Thank You for all your hard work, huge respect and greatly appreciate you guys
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ 2 жыл бұрын
Counting only the major brand cordless tools, there's been at least 3 dozen (and probably more) battery types sold with some being discontinued about a year after first hitting the market, and a few being used only in a few tools. Pity the poor souls who spent their money on those things. I was an early adopter of cordless back when only drills were offered. Batteries were built-in, capacity was low, tools were weak, and full charging could take hours. Any abuse of the battery and you'd soon have a dead tool. Mighty handy for light work and useless for anything else. And now they rival corded tools but one thing remains the same: the most powerful cordless tools and their batteries ain't cheap.
@FreeWVson
@FreeWVson Жыл бұрын
I had this set circular metal cutting saw it cut anything . I had the 28 impact it sucked built good but no power the batteries were awful.
@blitzace2962
@blitzace2962 2 жыл бұрын
Could you check out cornwells impact tools, sense I have been working at John Deere tools trucks come by pretty often and I got a catalog and their 1 inch cordless impact which is a D handle they said has 2700 breakaway torque at they sell it at around 800 dollars, so if it does hold up to that huge 2700 number then its more of a steal than both Milwaukee 1 inch.
@foxwood67
@foxwood67 2 жыл бұрын
I had hoped Milwaukee would take advantage of the 28 volt line when Dewalt starting upping their volts. I thought they could have a game changer offering 28 volt brushless models. Overall I’m happy with the M18 line otherwise I wouldn’t have spent 15k over the last 7-8 years on that platform. I Still think they should just ditch the brushed models altogether.
@kkswain96
@kkswain96 4 ай бұрын
We have enerpac cordless hydraulic pumps that are powered by the M28 batteries at work.
@wearsjorge55
@wearsjorge55 2 жыл бұрын
You should see how much people try to flog this range for on Facebook marketplace, gumtree, eBay, any internet open market. Some people charging top dollar for outdated and abused tools
@Thumper68
@Thumper68 2 жыл бұрын
The 1” rotary hammer is pretty beast
@larrybertgin4672
@larrybertgin4672 Жыл бұрын
What ever happened to the 24 volt Bosch?
@joemehere1151
@joemehere1151 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@7mpowerd
@7mpowerd 2 жыл бұрын
Bring the double side battery and the more advanced bearing systems and that would be a hit.
@dylanrowe7581
@dylanrowe7581 2 жыл бұрын
Hey torque test I would to see you guys test the new to me vitoman 12 volt impact
@NOREENULR50BMG
@NOREENULR50BMG 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see someone convert that to one of the newer brushless motors with that double reduction.
@paralellosll3849
@paralellosll3849 2 жыл бұрын
What's the amp hours of M28? I never understand why guys go out and buy bigger (volts) batteries. It takes what, 2 seconds to change batteries? Lithium alway delivers full power till empty. That's just how the technology works. When you consider the extra weight and cost it just doesn't add up to me. Plus, at least in my country, there's alway power (for charging) available on site and it doesn't take long to acquire a collection of 5ah batteries that can be fully charged once a week to get the through.
@Respawntheskullpupper
@Respawntheskullpupper 2 жыл бұрын
Have to give the M28 kudos for the robust and over-engineered design
@WeSRT4
@WeSRT4 2 жыл бұрын
It's marketed toward the industrial tool market.
@MrMartinSchou
@MrMartinSchou 2 жыл бұрын
Was this a sort of last huzzah for brushed motors?
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
That would probably be the 20V Cordless Earthquake STILL being sold at HF :P
@Highstranger951
@Highstranger951 2 жыл бұрын
Our extrication tools at the Fire Department use M28 batteries, seem to do ok.
@imwatchingnotreally7433
@imwatchingnotreally7433 Жыл бұрын
Seems like the m28 impact uses the same pin style hammer cage as the defective 2767 impacts b model. Weird
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын
Less power, no problems. Lots of bearing side support as well
@Ticncae
@Ticncae 2 жыл бұрын
Fire departments have jaws of life that use the Milwaukee 28v line batteries as well pretty bad ass father in law is a firefighter
@RatedR-normal
@RatedR-normal 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the hammer drill since I was a kid. I found it out in the bush acutely. It’s been dead for about 10 years never seen it run. is there anyone out there wanting to charge the battery and try it?
@djazt.8053
@djazt.8053 Жыл бұрын
Umh. A lithium battery not charged for 10 years is certainly dead due to self-discharge. If a cell dips below 3 V for an extended time, it becomes dangerous to charge and should not be charged.
@testpilot6954
@testpilot6954 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I have had 2 of these for 12 years retired my m28 5 ah last year for M18 12ah power is there but quality is not.
@eagle94haslanded
@eagle94haslanded 2 жыл бұрын
Seems to be designed to last a very long time under high use; assembly line type work.
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 2 жыл бұрын
This M28 may not have the beans, but with all of those bearings, I'm guessing it's last many more years than the newer stuff.
@poprawa
@poprawa Жыл бұрын
It has no brushless driver, that has almost no margins - you should drive this with two M18 batteries in series with some nice switch and wind out how things will go when over voltage pushes them
@austinwyman427
@austinwyman427 2 жыл бұрын
At my fire dept we have the M28 “jaws of life” and spreader tool and they are the best yet worst tools ever. Don’t get me wrong, they work great and are powerful as ever but going from the old hydraulic style with a stationary pump and the lines to cramming all of that into one portable machine was terrible unless you seriously need it to be more portable. After only making two cuts you don’t wanna make a third cause your arms are dead from lifting that massive 65lbs tool over your head and holding it there while it cuts with your full gear on. They do exactly what they’re supposed to do but you’re gonna want to be the size of Dwayne Johnson to be lifting it over your head more than twice.
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 2 жыл бұрын
@6:56... LOL.
@kswis
@kswis 2 жыл бұрын
Cool for sure but on the shelf it'll stay
@stlmusic
@stlmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there, :D
@masterjerry5442
@masterjerry5442 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the first time I saw M28 batteries wasn't a good one... They were for a Jaws of Life. And it was being used on MY car lol
@suckit0007
@suckit0007 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find your graphs ans stats?
@johnmauer6605
@johnmauer6605 2 жыл бұрын
"Turns out you can do quite a lot with not a lot of length... if you're using the right tool".... Definitely something my wife has said
@justinhamrick1099
@justinhamrick1099 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@cayman9873
@cayman9873 Жыл бұрын
Were you home when she said it ??
@crandonborth
@crandonborth Жыл бұрын
😏😏
@WholeSomeHomie
@WholeSomeHomie 2 ай бұрын
Overused joke
@reallythough3998
@reallythough3998 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more old, maybe even crappy tools, it's interesting looking at the guts and seeing all the reasons why today's are so much better
@FixitFred
@FixitFred 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at home depot years ago and bought the complete M28 set when they were brand new drill light, circular saw, sawzall, impact wrench. For years and years I waited for Milwaukee to expand the M28 product line but they never did. Eventually my batteries needed replacing and they were like $200 each so I sold off all the tools and went to the M18 platform. They were great tools just a little clunky due to their size. The M28 battery pack is similar in size to the M18 12ah pack.
@Crossthought
@Crossthought 2 жыл бұрын
The M28 took a big punch heavy duty workhorses but the batteries went down like nothing, the costs to replace the batteries weren`t affordable even if you was a contractor. They've let the 28v system die because of overwhelming cost and warranty issues. I like my set of 28 volts because of the heavy appearance but sometimes we have to accept that a museum isn't the place to earn money it's a place where others spend money!
@FixitFred
@FixitFred 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crossthought Couldn’t have said it any better. It was a great platform but it died quick. Nobody would rebuild the batteries either. For the price of two batteries I bought the gen 3 m18 drill and impact two batteries a charger and s packout case
@zsolttoth8914
@zsolttoth8914 2 жыл бұрын
@@FixitFred you can rebuild the battery at home. It use simple 18650 cells, which is cheap.
@FixitFred
@FixitFred 2 жыл бұрын
@@zsolttoth8914 Years ago when the first set of m28 batteries died 18650 cells were expensive and the equipment to rebuild it and the knowledge just wasted there. Now you can buy rebuild kits and battery tab welders and cells that were even better than the ones it came with.
@rsilvers129
@rsilvers129 Жыл бұрын
@@zsolttoth8914I saved my dead batteries to rebuild them but I can’t figure out how to open the shells.
@libertarian1637
@libertarian1637 2 жыл бұрын
The battery pack going in from the back or the front was the standard through their older line of 14.4 and 18 volt tools, pre-M18; this design was great and used to be my go to as if you load in the front the tool is well balanced for down and forward facing work while loading from the back made it a lot easier to use overhead.
@2down4up
@2down4up 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really fun review! Maybe you should do a series of name brand throw back impacts and unknown models lines of tools. For instance I didn’t know this M28 line even existed before this video. I’ve got what I believe to be the original gen 1 Ingersoll cordless 18v lithium 1/2” impact with the cool insert and twist to lock battery packs. I would love to see how it does. How about some of the old NiCd Snap Ons or any of their competitors? Old school store bought models as well. I understand that is a big deep hole up dive into but if narrowed down somewhat, I think it could create some very interesting videos and show just how far cordless impacts have come since they first came out.
@2009rummell
@2009rummell 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell you how they do.. terrible lol. We have one of them at work. The batteries suck and I feel like my 1/4 inch DeWalt makes more power
@benfowler2127
@benfowler2127 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the v28 kit if I remember correctly. Hammer drill, light, saw, sawzall. Also bought a bandsaw. Ended up getting some m28 batteries to replace the v28’s that went bad(all of them went bad), but I still wasn’t impressed with the run time. Ended up selling the tools except the bandsaw. Gave that and the batteries to a friend.
@galvanizedgnome
@galvanizedgnome 2 жыл бұрын
With friends like that who needs enemies
@benfowler2127
@benfowler2127 2 жыл бұрын
@@galvanizedgnome I guess the point I was really trying to make is basically the same point they made in the video. Yeah, they’re 28 volts, but they’re not as good as current tools are. I didn’t mean for that to be any sort of bragging if that’s how it came across.
@okiebob5873
@okiebob5873 2 жыл бұрын
I had the kit many many years ago as well. Was great for what was available back then.
@benfowler2127
@benfowler2127 2 жыл бұрын
@@okiebob5873 I agree. The technology has just come so far between then and now
@BlarginBro
@BlarginBro 2 жыл бұрын
Lol DP putting work on the bottom flew right over my head at first
@laiky71
@laiky71 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought "old" Milwaukee cordless tools were of much higher quality then the new stuff, of course the performance pales. My first Gen 18 Volt tools were indestructible, but my new stuff is way lighter and more powerful. It's SAD that my "new Milwaukee" drill is using my "OLD Milwaukee" chuck since the new chucks suck so badly.
@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r
@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r 2 жыл бұрын
We had to ditch a bunch of the old Milwaukee 18v stuff due to all of the batteries being dead. Those tools were tanks and worked very well. I hated to see the new series take such a dive in overall quality, but love the increased performance.
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 2 жыл бұрын
You can get aftermarket German chucks. Because yeah the new ones suck.
@laiky71
@laiky71 2 жыл бұрын
The original Milwaukee lithium ion, were a pile of crap. I still have my old tools, bought a battery adapter, but haven't used it yet
@Hansengineering
@Hansengineering 2 жыл бұрын
Makita made a contemporaneous 36v that was just as awful.
@Daddy_Daiwa
@Daddy_Daiwa 2 жыл бұрын
Reverse cowgirl action 😂
@Joethetoolguy
@Joethetoolguy 2 жыл бұрын
Straight to the antiques road show it goes. She’s grandpa’s problem now…
@jonathansherwood5841
@jonathansherwood5841 2 жыл бұрын
Quite the odd, interesting tool...much like this channel 😏😁
@FarginIceholeful
@FarginIceholeful Жыл бұрын
I, personally, would only use this for driving lag bolts into wood for basic deck structure. Sometimes I wish the corded ones I have weren't so aggressive. On another note, nobody seems to know this but you could have always had these or any batteries rebuilt at Batteries Plus for a fraction of the price AND you can opt for higher Ah depending on the size of the battery case. I've had the old Nickel Hydride batteries rebuilt quite a few times.
@ChevyConQueso
@ChevyConQueso Жыл бұрын
I didn't know they did this at all, thanks. I go there to get my group 31 batteries, which are really affordable with the 10% savings from online purchase. I also go there because they have a badass Autometer carbon pile load tester- which is the right way to test a battery.
@wolphin732
@wolphin732 2 жыл бұрын
The V28 (and successor M28) were Milwaukee's first Li-Ion Tools. The reversed batteries, at least for the hammer drill, helped at times with a better weight balance. The older NiCad 18's had this function too! I had been looking at getting it, but now will instead get the M18. I have the V28 hammerdrill, sawzall, circular saw, and light kit. Also have the shop vac, and a radio which does V28/M28/V18, M18, M12 batteries! The light has some sort of issue, but the rest work fine with the M28 battery I got to replace after a decade when my V28 batteries actually started to die.
@FixitFred
@FixitFred 2 жыл бұрын
The M28 impact wrench worked well. I had accidently bought mine as pin detent instead of ball detent. There was a kit to convert it. Overtime it had an issue that it would only work sometimes when I pulled the trigger. I had it serviced twice they could not find the issue. I eventually took it apart and found a crack in the brushes which would wedge in the brush slot causing it to stop working. It was top of the line at the time it was released but the m18 HTIW can destroy it and its lighter and smaller.
@douglasmayherjr.5733
@douglasmayherjr.5733 2 жыл бұрын
I actually started out with M28 and moved into the M18, M12 lines it looked like they were cordless versions of the corded tools of the time I had Portable Bandsaw and a bunch of other tools that worked great. The first generation of M28 battery would self discharge pretty quickly. I bought my M28 stuff around 2006, cutting edge for the time. Thanks for comparing old to new. Times have changed
@davidfrymire9150
@davidfrymire9150 2 жыл бұрын
You bonehead I’ve had the Milwaukee 28 now for over 20 years ! I have the impact, vacuum, jig saw , radial saw a couple of grinders, a couple of there drills and the big metal cutting saw ! I have the old regular 18 with multiple tools, the m18 in about half of what they offer ! But when I have to work on my 100 horse tractor and machinery I go to the 28 and never have battery problems like you are showing ! Everyone always wants to use mine over a default !
@marksolheim9690
@marksolheim9690 2 жыл бұрын
Fellers I would love to see how this compares to the snap on missile silo 1/2” of yesteryear as well. There’s a few old timers still running those guns and I would love to see some numbers on that. Thanks for all you do.
@WilReid
@WilReid 2 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee has a higher voltage line that's been around for years and they actively support with new products. It's called MX and it's 72 volts. More suited to riding mowers than impact wrenches though if they ever use it in a consumer product.
@aaronneher4860
@aaronneher4860 2 жыл бұрын
This is an impact that looks like it was “quality over quantity”. Never a bad thing. It’s just a shame that in the last decade quality on most of these tools have suffered to reduce the weight of tools. Seems like there’s a fairly happy medium on pro tools but this looks like it was engineered to last a lifetime. It’s a shame they opted out of the battery platform
@h8GW
@h8GW 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the decent modern brands today really aren't slouches when it comes to durability. I'd go out on a limb and say this impact might've been OVERbuilt.
@iamtheliberated
@iamtheliberated Жыл бұрын
@@h8GW sometimes that's a great thing! I imagine how much less severe my carpal tunnel flare ups might have been if my everyday air tools would've had that much bearing cushion against the vibration...and the fact that they'd probably need rebuilt...about 80 years from now.
@chriscord6524
@chriscord6524 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of porn puns this week. Golden
@vincentgreene2181
@vincentgreene2181 2 жыл бұрын
Test dewalts old XR impact driver, we would like to know how it does against milwaukee and the atomic impacts drivers.
@ernestoduran4100
@ernestoduran4100 2 жыл бұрын
“Reverse cowgirl action “ lmao I love it great video!
@mos8541
@mos8541 2 жыл бұрын
MANY first responders know of the M28 system, believe me.
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Amazing to see that build quality that gave Milwaukee their great reputation. Unfortunate that we will never see that again, probably from even the German brands.
@TekDrgn
@TekDrgn 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else at 0:44 immediately think "I'm Doug DeMuro and this is the Milwaukee M28. Here are the quirks and features"
@austinwyman427
@austinwyman427 2 жыл бұрын
At my fire dept we have the M28 “jaws of life” and spreader tool and they are the best yet worst tools ever. Don’t get me wrong, they work great and are powerful as ever but going from the old hydraulic style with a stationary pump and the lines to cramming all of that into one portable machine was terrible unless you seriously need it to be more portable. After only making two cuts you don’t wanna make a third cause your arms are dead from lifting that massive 65lbs tool over your head and holding it there while it cuts with your full gear on. They do exactly what they’re supposed to do but you’re gonna want to be the size of Dwayne Johnson to be lifting it over your head more than twice.
@DJmachine1O1
@DJmachine1O1 2 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee should revive the 28 volt system with brushless motors and li-ion batteries.
@capndazz
@capndazz 2 жыл бұрын
Have m28 set from way back plumbing apprentice. I still use the 28V drill for 2 5/8 hole auger it plows and is still a ape of a drill . the sawzall has been outclassed though its still a beast. Overall the m18 is powerfull and way more light and usefull .The m28 batteries were a nightmare also. i have 2.5 left over from my 6 overall.
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