Find the 850 here: amzn.to/3Hbd1iZ To see how these tools work in wood (you know, like maybe you do) check out the new PhillyFixed video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqqTh4eJmclnobs
@halogamerdude412 жыл бұрын
could you have accidentally left the makita in speed three and not speed 4? i admit the control panel is a bit confusing, and if i remember the speed three is like 32 hundred rpm with top end being 36-37 hundred.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@halogamerdude41 See 5:20 i.imgur.com/Nqr3zpA.png
@serialchillerAEE2 жыл бұрын
@@halogamerdude41 I was thinking about that too maybe he was in automatic
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@serialchillerAEE the lights aren't green in automatic modes
@RossMalagarie2 жыл бұрын
Torque Test Channel how can a tool have double the volts and has less stats on performance, not even close?
@Xx34TxITxX2 жыл бұрын
You should market yourself as an independent third party testing facility and become a national standard for this type of testing! Would be great to see a TTC (Torque Test Channel) sticker on the side of an impact driver someday. I'd actually trust the numbers on the box at that point.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
We've actually done some testing now for a small number of manufacturers/factories who wanted our feedback under the premise they realize we're never going to show it on the channel per our rules about free samples, and that they take the tool back when done. Haven't quite figured out if these requests are due to the graphs and power over a run we can generate here or because we've tested every major impact wrench out there right now and they can see that performance comparison instead of buying the $20k worth of tools themselves.
@FishFind30002 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel do you charge for this service? It would be a great way to then buy the same model tool tested and put it in the list. That way you didn’t get a free tool from them.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@FishFind3000 The couple tools we've tested havent come out yet
@melvingibson45252 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel shoot them a video in the same format as everything else with condescending comments if they suck lol
@FAMOUSSLICKRICK2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you sir. TTC channel is more than qualified and a very trusted by all of the customers of all these major companies. The power tool world loves The TTC Channel. 🇺🇸😎🇺🇸
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
Full disclosure, Torque of TTC is working for a company called Astro Tools. Who doesn't make impact drivers, but it may be worth knowing! See latest live stream for more details. Thanks!
@deankruse87512 жыл бұрын
Tell him to make sure astro knows we want the bigger big nasty of SMA fame to come out for the public to buy.
@ErickNS1 Жыл бұрын
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. kzbin.infoUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
@sixtyfiveford2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Gen3 Milwaukee and had full intention of replacing my Makita 18v. Needless to say it may have been slightly more powerful but it was like riding a Chinese rickshaw down a cobblestone path and the Makita is now my main impact driver again. The Makita was just so much smoother.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
This is very much true. Our gen 3 still makes 167 in a 5sec run but sounds like pebbles are stuck inside. Hard to measure that though.
@sixtyfiveford2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel I know that Europe puts the vibration index on all the tools they sell. So you can see that with Milwaukee,AEG, DeWalt etc. I wonder if there's a device you can actually attach to the side of impacts to give yourself another level of measuring the vibrations. Kind of like how you've been doing with larger impacts with your personal feel.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
We bought a vibration gauge. But only really useful free spinning. During use tools are all over the place
@martylucas85572 жыл бұрын
Hey good for you…Try driving a 3/4” x 12” lag bolt with that Makita impact. Besides that’s BS, my Milwaukee Gen 3 impact is pretty smooth, not to mention pretty powerful. It probably has better variable speed control than the Makita impact, e.g. lower lows and higher highs.
@lunchboxproductions11832 жыл бұрын
@@martylucas8557 Might want to stop drinking that red Koolaid, I think it's affecting your brain.
@theodorejohnkaczynski94422 жыл бұрын
I've got the dcf850 with the powerstack battery and I absolutely love it. I'm a forklift tech so I use it on anywhere from 6mm to 23mm bolts and nuts and it does great. Of course I'm not dealing with things like rust that the automotive guys get but it works well and is compact to get into places
@Nathan-gi9mm7 ай бұрын
Yeah I was thinking how my 1.5 power stack would affect this
@brianf96192 жыл бұрын
That new Dewalt impact driver will be $99 when the H.D. X-mas deals come out in a few weeks , I already saw it , tool only for $99 for a brand new tool is insane, good job DeWalt ..👍
@rickblaine74632 жыл бұрын
Saw an atomic 4 pc tool set...bag, and two batteries and charger $299
@djnevling82532 жыл бұрын
@@rickblaine7463 my dad actually got me the 20V Atomic drill and impact set for Christmas. I think it was about $150 or $170 before tax for both tools, two batteries, charger, and a bag. Pretty good shit.
@djnevling82532 жыл бұрын
Ah my bad mine isn’t the XR. Still good deal for both tools and it’s sufficient for my needs.
@bdog31062 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the DeWalt for $99 at Home Depot, I do HVAC install and it has been working out great in all the tight spaces
@Yousitech2 жыл бұрын
Id like to see yall accept one from a company and then buy one off the shelf and see if they are the same
@PedrazaArt12 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@Naughty_Squad2 жыл бұрын
I hear you
@Joethetoolguy2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy y’all are testing this first. Most trustable impact channel on KZbin fam!
@deepsquat6002 жыл бұрын
hope you are having a great week Joe
@CMOS3572 жыл бұрын
Great review as always, I like the fact that you mentioned depending on "how your tool is used" can make a difference, you don't always need the most powerful and absolute fastest to get a job done. I own Milwaukee and rigid tools but I'm still impressed with the little DeWalt👍
@SvdSinner2 жыл бұрын
I've loved my last gen Dewalt Atomic 20V driver. I'm not the nicest to tools, and it has handle everything that has happened to it (left out in rain, stepped on by horse, etc.) without any problems.
@taylor21052 жыл бұрын
I have a similar experience. Tools that have lasted with daily heavy heavy use, and now still going 10 years later. I worked as a Roofer then, and at a machine shop now. The machine shop uses everything Milwaukee, and it all breaks down very fast. I'll stick with dewalt, I just wish they made some tools like the rachets Milwaukee builds
@djnevling82532 жыл бұрын
How did your power tools get stepped on by a horse dude? Lmao no judgement here that’s just a funny example.
@parkerhammond32582 жыл бұрын
Reliability has never been a problem for Makita but performance certainly hasn't always been their strong point, I'll still own a Makita any day, hopefully the reliability and craftsmanship doesn't ever fall off because that's what keeps me coming back
@jamesmacdonald8656 Жыл бұрын
He probably had it in the wrong mode 😂
@simonbelmont548 Жыл бұрын
Makita sucks balls. My friend had a makita and couldn't drive 7 inch joist screws. He had to barrow my milwaukee.
@potvinsuks873011 ай бұрын
@@simonbelmont548 Because, through all the years, Makita and Milwaukee have only had just 1 model to compare to one another..
@randr102 жыл бұрын
By the way, I have my impact driver as a multi purpose do-all tool for things from carpentry to appliance repair to driving lag bolts, but I probably use it the most doing automotive work. I mostly like these little tools because they can get in there and turn off those long winded bolts really quickly. Even if I have to break the fasteners loose with a breaker bar, then hit them with this the rest of the way out, it really saves me a ton of time. I never was interested in the 1/2 or 3/8 cordless impacts I had used years ago because they weren't putting out any more torque than these little guys, and they couldn't do anything else. My interest in them wasn't piqued until I saw your videos on the newer ones that are rivaling some of the best air impacts out there. Since I've already got the batteries, you've really got me thinking about one of these cordless Makita impacts, because I really do hate having to wrestle with the air line, and with the socket going directly on that tool mandrel, a lot more compact than even my cordless impact driver. I think one of these things is in my near future.
@adamfehr19942 жыл бұрын
I bought the Makita 40v a year ago and I absolutely love it. I’m in construction and I’ve used it for everything from drywall screws to large grk and lag bolts. The trigger is so soft that you can feel everything and use it for very delicate work such as mounting hinges on doors as it only impacts when it meets heavy resistance. To me an impact driver doesn’t need to be crazy powerful, if you want torque for large lags then buy a small impact wrench🤷🏼♂️ I’ve used both dewalt and Milwaukee and they don’t come close when doing delicate finishing. Also the new batteries get you over twice the battery life.
@adamfehr19942 жыл бұрын
@UClF12X2oBJ-ay6gAZxum2vA I don’t think you understand what makes a good impact driver, it’s not all about power, they don’t need to be anymore powerful. There are impact wrenches for a reason. Once you try all 3 and have to use one all day everyday, the little details become much more important.
@abccde38322 жыл бұрын
"Which makita 40v do you use?"
@adamfehr19942 жыл бұрын
@@abccde3832 obviously the impact driver
@abccde38322 жыл бұрын
@@adamfehr1994 I'm curious which model.
@adamfehr19942 жыл бұрын
@@abccde3832 there’s only one🤦🏼
@blackscotydog2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that DeWalt woke the hell up....Love these test keeping these wild power claims in check..
@nenezaze32522 жыл бұрын
I yes bought the new DeWalt Átomic driver, is a beauty it doesn't hesitate to put screws on 2x4 the best tool I ever bought this new year..
@Dale372 жыл бұрын
That new Atomic is what DeWalt should have originally released in that lineup.
@Biaanca50362 жыл бұрын
I don't think they even knew that they could go that small until the ken okuyama Ryobi stuff from japan released and showed off the new teeny tiny motor on all of the brochure stuffs xD
@blendpinexus14162 жыл бұрын
you and project farm should start collabing and sharing some of the tools and resources. would be very interesting
@HoosierDaddy_2 жыл бұрын
That Makita makes me wonder if it was broken, lol. Very bizarre how that driver acted. Great little Dewalt, for sure.
@ironhornforge2 жыл бұрын
It's an impact driver not a half inch. It's not supposed to have much torque as it destroys bits. It's literally perfect as it is. If you want insane torque get the half inch
@Patrick-8572 жыл бұрын
@@ironhornforge Exactly. Americans want everything more powerful. People put cabinet's together with these things. I tried the M18 and hated it. Makita wins in ergonomics and reliability every time. My Dewalt 887s perform well, but that's also because I'm used to them. In the hands of apprentices or people who are used to Makita or Hikoki impacts, things get broken. The 887 comes from an era when impact drivers were already getting powerful enough.
@joshfranssenful2 жыл бұрын
You need to try the dewalt atomic with the powerstack battery. The faster discharge rate of the powerstack seems to make a big difference. Or at least with the hand dyno and actually using both batteries on this new tool. Love the content.
@fredio542 жыл бұрын
Having just bought a DCF850 for 99usd + shipping and tax to my country via home depot and a freight forwarder I'm pleased with what I saw here - I didn't realise it matched the old 887 in performance, that makes it a no brainer IMO.
@jarwins649 Жыл бұрын
My mother got me a dewalt atomic tool set as a wedding gift. Came with a sawzall, impact driver, angle grinder, drill driver and two batteries. Im in no way a professional of even an amateur handy man but they are more than adequate form me as a first-time homeowner.
@ToolswithSoAlz2 жыл бұрын
Not at all surprised by the struggles of the Makita. You have confirmed my recent testing. I am surprised by that little Dewalt
@FAMOUSSLICKRICK2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you sir. 🇺🇸😎🇺🇸
@adamfehr19942 жыл бұрын
Makita’s not all about power, it’s more about finesse and tool feel over raw power. It can do more finishing jobs that the Milwaukee and dewalt would struggle with due to their primitive triggers.
@Stewpkiddable2 жыл бұрын
@@adamfehr1994 yes this. makita's xdt16 or td171/172 impact drivers have dual stacked bearings on the chuck side leading to a minimal bit wobble. as an electrician who works in deep cabinets this is makes my life easier. i believe this 40v makita shown in the video has a similar dual bearing design. also the chucks on makita drills tend to have less play. finally makita is an always has been an electric motor and tool company. they arent one of many companies owned by some losers, this is a real business with folks who have honed their tool making craft for generations.
@Stewpkiddable2 жыл бұрын
@@FAMOUSSLICKRICK Milwaukee is owned and operated by TTI Group. Techtronic Industries Group (TTI) is headquartered in Hong Kong, China. Dewalt is owned by Stanley Black and Decker.... and when you see a dewalt drill with MADE IN USA sticker, just know that every piece was manufactured and mostly assembled in foreign countries and then "final assembly" occurred on US soil. The last three yards earned that sticker and thats how both the american and foreign companies want it, to keep fools like you thinking they are patriots. "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." -history. wish youd read more maybe youd be less proud of that flag.
@adamfehr19942 жыл бұрын
@@Stewpkiddable agreed, they focus on quality over raw power and quantity, because they definitely don’t sell as much. I have the 40V and based off the trigger, precision and build quality, It would take a lot to get me back to Milwaukee
@truthserum91572 жыл бұрын
This is why you’re Chanel is tops, I make tool decisions on these videos.
@st76502 жыл бұрын
Love the DEWALT tools but either way you can’t go wrong with Milwaukee or DEWALT both great tools. Thanks for the post really interesting
@scalpelo922 жыл бұрын
What about Makita? 😐
@pilotdog682 жыл бұрын
A few times now you've asked about "if the spring and hammer/anvil are unchanged, can 40v make a difference?" and the answer is that it certainly could. The power of the impact is determined by 1. Mass of hammer/anvil, 2. Leverage/diameter of the same, and 3. Speed of the motor. Every time the hammer smacks the anvil, the load on the motor spikes and the RPM decreases, then it has a tiny amount of time to speed back up for the next impact. Higher voltage could theoretically help the motor power through that load spike without losing so much RPM. It could also give them the overhead to put in a heavier spring for longer sustained blows. That said, the performance here of the Makita is strange. They possibly could be electronically limiting it, or perhaps the performance was already being limited by something other than loaded RPM so extra voltage changed nothing.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yup, solid points. We wonder though on a motor and hammers the size of this impact driver if that RPM was already even a limiting factor. On bigger tools, it must be fore sure. Although using a heavier diameter spring or different hammer to pair with it would be ideal, and for the +$100 premium XGT gets you'd hope so.
@Doktoreq2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Considering that most of the impact drivers relies on higher rpm (more strikes per second) than impact wrenches wouldn't that big of a socket impact performance.
@Biaanca50362 жыл бұрын
I wonder when they'll start putting loooonnng planetary gear transmissions into impact wrenches whose sole purpose is to twist the absolute strongest spring that they can throw at it to hit at as hard as it possibly can 🙏
@lwilton2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel Did you use the same adapter type on all the tools? I was idly wondering if maybe the adapter on the Makita had some extra spring in it that was absorbing some of the impact. Something certainly looked like some sort of hard limit. If you didn't use the same adapter type, I'd for the heck of it give it a run with the Dewalt adapter just to see if anything changed.
@Doktoreq2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that most limiting factor is socket adapter (basically a torsion beam). Increasing moment of inertia on one end of the torsion beam leads to torsion beam twisting more. Speaking simply: if you put a big ass socket on a thin (and long) adapter, the adapter will twist robbing you of your precious torque at the bolt. It hurts more when you have low torque / high rpm tool like impact driver.
@LIKEcommentANDsubscribe2 жыл бұрын
It's like golf, the brand with the lowest voltage sells the best beans.
@Damitsall2 жыл бұрын
That Makita must have lost the silicon lottery or have a bad motor or something. I have had the 40V impact driver and it can torque and loosen 200 FT-LBS without breaking a sweat. My 20 year old 18V Makita can put up the numbers you were getting.
@alexmills13292 жыл бұрын
You do know no Makita 18v tool in the world is 20 years old yet right? Atleast LXT is from the mid/late 2000’s and I know because I still have a white Makita drill and OG batteries that only fit that tool now
@Damitsall2 жыл бұрын
@@alexmills1329 I still have the receipt from 2004, so it's 18 years old. You got me, it's 18 instead of 20. It also has the older 18V batteries. If you look at the model numbers of the newer 18V batteries they have a "B" at the end of them. Those will not work in these older tools, although the older 18V batteries will work on newer tools.
@roykim3002 жыл бұрын
I will take smaller, lighter drill over higher max torque. Just purchased DeWalt with power stack battery pack. Awesome! Beside smaller size, the flash light is much improved.
@LordBort Жыл бұрын
How's it holding up?
@SigXman2 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee is KING in power tools.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
Where can you find our rank lists? torque-test-channel.preview.teespring.com/listing/TTCRankings?product=953 Or FWD any purchase to TorqueRank@gmail.com The Makita was in its highest setting 5:18, we usually test the top few options to make sure. In wood where these are usually employed, impacts-per-min would close a lot of the gap here until they are up against something one driver can move and the other cant, like the tight bolt here. This one tool by no means makes XGT tools "trash", on the contrary it's the 1st one we've seen that isn't a massive standout. Stay tuned to see more. Mode 4 screen grab: i.imgur.com/nPHMxzj.png
@earld14032 жыл бұрын
Hey, got my T-Shirts. They're very good but you know what would be even better - If there was option to buy a Pocket-T instead of a plain T-shirt.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@earld1403 Hey thanks! For pocket tees, our only creator option is a shirt that's also an all over print (design over every inch of the shirt) and the cost is literally 2X as much. We don't wear $43 tee-shirts, so we wouldn't expect you guys to either.
@TheOystei2 жыл бұрын
i would just say, as someone who primarily works on cars, the reverse (release) torque is by far the most important for that, the bolts tend only to be corroded in place when loosening them, and require way more than "torque spec" to get loose.
@Chris-xo2rq2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought that was an odd statement... reverse is easily more important than forward like 90% of the time.
@alexanderhubben28492 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-xo2rq I feel that since they are impact drivers and not wrenches they are more geared towards driving fasteners. using something like this in automotive would be a mistake
@brandonlee84002 жыл бұрын
I was using 886 for 6 years. While Dewalt was hibernating and Milwaukee couldn't build a collet right, I switched to Makita xdt16z. 4 speeds, 4 modes, convenient programmable mode button above trigger, two lights, glows in the dark, superior collet.
@rjhilderbrand55482 жыл бұрын
I hope Makita CEO watches this, calls a meeting and shows his engineers. "like yo guys wtf is this"
@sixtygrit99442 жыл бұрын
Shop Tool Reviews was loosening bolts torqued to 350 ft lb with this. Something isnt adding up.
@robertrada47832 жыл бұрын
Surprising results. I have owned all of those impact drivers except the Dewalt, Flex and TD172 (own multiple XDT16’s). Milwaukee punches harder than any Makita, so much so it often backfires with insta camouts. But I have not at all had the experience that the XGT is less powerful than the 18v counterparts (TD172 is very close to TD171). In fact, the reverse: the motor is larger, the gears are larger and the hammer is larger on the XGT and 10” long GRK’s notice the difference. XGT wasn’t here when I still owned the old and new “Freak” models, but the XDT16’s ran circles around the new one while a toothpick bundled up with masking tape was a more competent impact driver than the original. You showed the control panel in the video and it was set to maximum torque. Knowing Makita’s consistent QC (and, really, only smaller niche companies ship QC inconsistencies) with their products from the inside out, I really doubt they shipped one any different than the one I own. So, my question is, why are my experiences not lined up with the test results? Makita has the least amount of runout by a large margin and with the XGT being at the top. That has something to do with it I suppose. But what else? Would love some input.
@bvbb5592 жыл бұрын
Makita should be a very good product >> DeWalt
@jacobsebastien39102 жыл бұрын
Uhmm... That's why why Milwaukee has different power settings....
@madjackgamingandfitness498 Жыл бұрын
Even with power settings I just keep the milwaukee on 3, my dewalt variable self taught me trigger control if I cam out a screw it’s going to be my fault.
@samzweerink72952 жыл бұрын
I recently replaced my Dewalt 886 for the 887 and then converted the 886 into a 3/8" wrench driver . I'm a Dewalt loyalist and don't care about who's better...cause it all works for me.
@SilentiumCivis2 жыл бұрын
DeWalt always wins my vote. Why? Simply because they are American Made.
@rosskrause39262 жыл бұрын
I have the 887 and want to convert it to 3/8" impact wrench..where did yo buy the 3/8" anvil ? I have seen a few videos here on youtube how to switch them out.
@samzweerink72952 жыл бұрын
@@rosskrause3926 Amazon
@rosskrause39262 жыл бұрын
@@samzweerink7295 Thanks.
@yourdream8 Жыл бұрын
@@SilentiumCivis They're made in Mexico.
@ManCaverTools2 жыл бұрын
This DCF850 is my new Favorite impact driver. didnt do bad at all in this video
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to find a bad thing about it
@truthserum91572 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! My 2 favorite brands, I use both, some tools are better from one brand, and some are better from the other.
@jeramy23982 жыл бұрын
In my experience using impact drivers in construction its speed that starts screws and too much torque strips screws. The weight is critical when hanging it off a toolbelt and carrying it around.
@jacobsebastien39102 жыл бұрын
Did you know they have different speed/power settings...? Smh Lol'
@blackriflear152 жыл бұрын
Your chart illustration is light years ahead of everybody else. Love it .
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate that
@blackriflear152 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel thank you
@nandos11112 жыл бұрын
An impact driver is for driving screws and fine adjustment… as an electrician. I found the makita xgt so much better for that with it’s fine tuning…. You literally explained it yourself with the other 3/4” driver being available if you actually wanna socket some bolts. I feel like this is testing a single very small aspect of what makes a good impact driver
@scottbionicnerf8727 Жыл бұрын
In my line of work, dragging a 1/2" air hose attached to a 1/4" ratchet all around vehicle, taking off small body panels, various other broken parts, huge pain in rectal orifice. I've grown so accustomed to my 12yr old Ryobi brushed impact driver, I won't go back to the hosedragger(and I've used a work buddies new DeWalt.! It's got twice the power of my old Ryobi, and it's 1/2 the size.!?). If I had $5,000.00 to blow on tools, I'd have 2 of each 1/4",3/8",1/2"(in case of breakage.) impacts, and a single 3/4" drive impact, and ratchets, and 90°,3/8" impact drivers.
@Spencerburner2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I've used that Milwaukee driver for driving screws into standard lumber and it's almost too much torque/power for that job. Gotta turn it to it's lowest setting or really feather the trigger
@speedyink2 жыл бұрын
As you suggested, the Makita is basically the 18v version driver rewired for 40V. Certainly not a recommended purchase by me, and I've avoided stocking it for this reason. They may be working on a new one, but this one is basically a filler for if you don't have anything but the 40V tool.
@adamfehr19942 жыл бұрын
You do get better torque on high applications and over twice the battery life but that’s pretty much it🤷🏼♂️
@speedyink2 жыл бұрын
@@adamfehr1994 Yeah, not worth it in my opinion. The 2.5Ah battery isn't terrible in size/weight but no way I'd want to be packing around the 4.0 all day while driving screws. I mean shit, for not so demanding but large tasks like metal roofing or drywall I go as far as even using their brushless 12V tools as you basically get like zero fatigue from using those all day
@lowdermilk892 жыл бұрын
I’ve never paid full price for a tool, but this Atomic is one that I would actually consider.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
Will be $99 on holiday sale
@benwolf50972 жыл бұрын
You guys should test some 3/8 drive impact wrenches. Unless I'm missing them I don't think you have. I feel like it would be pretty interesting to see how they compare to the bigger sizes
@MrMad4mud2 жыл бұрын
Glad all my tools are red. Milwaukee are performers and bomb proof
@lauravarona67172 жыл бұрын
Milwakee only 18v is a monster 🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪
@WolfManJammer2 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see more on the Flex tool line. I decided to switch from my 18V Makita over to the 24V Flex, until more of the Makita 40V line is released, tested and reviewed. I'm a builder by trade and can quickly sift through the gimmicks. I think Flex is on to something good.
@evictioncarpentry26282 жыл бұрын
I'm not making any excuses for Makita, I own a plethora of M18, M12 and Dewalt tools, to complement my Makita line up where they lack in selection, but Makitas always been behind in pure power. They're more focused on precision work and longevity over making the most power. I've had the DTD171 since early 2019, and to be honest in the real world, I sometimes have to knock it down to speed 3 because speed 4 is way too fast and uncontrolled or cams out and slips. If i ever need to drive lags or something, that's where I keep the M12 Stubby in my truck to come in and do those jobs. 1/4 impacts aren't a do-it-all tool, even though you CAN do a lot with them doesn't mean you should.
@nguyent24772 жыл бұрын
@@lilbeanie5078 👉👶👇🤣
@orson0912 жыл бұрын
i think maybe you have a dodgy makita, iv seen multiple tests with the 40v going head to head with the 18v japanese ones and it beats them...
@jdmvette2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I imported that newest Japanese 18v driver last year. Good to see that it's still top of the Makita heap 😎
@keyboardwarrior44012 жыл бұрын
Which model did you get? I want to replace my XDT14
@jdmvette2 жыл бұрын
@@keyboardwarrior4401 makita td172d (in red) imported direct from Japan via eBay listing.
@knut57482 жыл бұрын
Think the makita one is just so people dont have to lug around 18 and 40v tools and batteries. In a real situation you rarely need mote beans than the makita delivers. Then id assume they just get a impact wrench.
@libertyforever836 Жыл бұрын
People need to remember that these are impact drivers not impact wrenches. They are not for doing work on mechanical items like forklifts, snowmobile’s and car engines. Why do you think it is the manufactures don’t give us longer warranties on them because people treat them like impact wrenches and they break down. These impact drivers are for driving screws into wood for carpentry work, for deck work, Not for tearing an engine apart or putting one back together again or taking the Lugnuts off your jeep or your truck, use an impact wrench for that! so don’t complain if they break down Because you’re misusing them.
@08283097492 жыл бұрын
Different sizes and different Nm powers, the milwaukee 226Nm, but the Dewalt 205Nm and its noticeably smaller body are capable of nearly the same power as the milwaukee. This is why I chose dewalt.
@wecx23752 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee is for us professionals.
@toolbox12 жыл бұрын
This test was awesome. I was surprised by Dewalt and shocked by Makita. On the end all 3 brands are good.
@TorqueTestChannel2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, what a time to be alive!
@Maxsmotoshop Жыл бұрын
Great videos but I disagree with one thing reverse can be very important as well depending on what type of trade you’re in I’m a mechanic I disassemble almost everything with my Dewalt, but I cannot put everything back together with my Dewalt. Some stuff has to be assembled by hand. Keep up the great work.
@jasper21142 жыл бұрын
You really just can't argue with the milwaukee.. every test I see it in that tests it's power and utility, they dominate .
@asdfghzxcvbnm43342 жыл бұрын
I bought the new DeWalt drill for $99 at Home Depot you just got a look for it.
@captaincactus57282 жыл бұрын
Me: eating lunch at work, has Milwaukee gen 3 driver. Sees torque test channel post driver video Me: perks up in chair and gives little foot taps of excitement
@jl93622 жыл бұрын
Really not sure why dewalt would change the selector for the impact wrenches but not the impact driver 🤦♂️ Maybe if there is an XR version they will add it
@SpankMyFace Жыл бұрын
Damnit, dude. You should see Ridgid's baby impact driver. I would love to see some of their stuff in the lineup here...
@haydentitman45482 жыл бұрын
The Milwaukee levels off but the Dewalt keeps climbing in power
@wyattkranz2450 Жыл бұрын
Just got the same Atomic kit you have for $130, great to see the price dropping after a year.
@zanderchiasson80642 жыл бұрын
Man that intro song almost makes me cry every time
@deathnnex2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling you have the makita on the wrong setting. Unless I have a different version to you. Mine has a blue and green light on when it's on the full beans setting. Instead of pressing the button which changes the lights where it's numbered 1 to 4. There is a button on the other side. You may already have it on this setting, it's hard to see when you test it.
@deathnnex2 жыл бұрын
Nevermind I need to read the manual
@Ka_Gg7 ай бұрын
I just picked up a bare tool dcf850 for $70. Pretty pumped to use it. At this point, you may as well not even have a small impact wrench and just have impact drivers for things like lug nuts.
@NWGR2 жыл бұрын
Nice job with testing. I have and love that milwaukee, but if I were team yellow I'd be quite excited for the super compact impact.
@milwsdl392 жыл бұрын
OK didn’t realize you had this video I bought the tool sent you an email thanks for the review because I bought it more because of the size of the Tool
@ErCanEverything2 жыл бұрын
Very good comparison with torque meter👍👍👍🙂🤝🤝🤝
@Cintury Жыл бұрын
Now I just have to choose between Milwaukee and Bosch. Thanks
@kctyphoon2 жыл бұрын
As a complete system - Milwaukee has no real competition. The only reason cordless tools have made the leaps they have is because of Milwaukee. Dewalt would still be happily selling their 18v Nicad stick pack tools if Milwaukee Fuel didn’t embarrass them.
@yup33982 жыл бұрын
Do you like Milwaukee?
@kctyphoon2 жыл бұрын
@@yup3398 Yup.
@clarkfos34472 жыл бұрын
Awesome testing as always guys! I'm sure glad that I didn't buy Makita's first attempt at the 40v "xgt" impact driver as it seems a bit underwhelming compared to td172. I absolutely love my Japanese 18V td172 and this test definitely makes me appreciate it even more after seeing it slightly beat the new DeWalt on raw beans alone here.
@robertrada47832 жыл бұрын
They’re both better than the TD171, which already was the nicest on the market.
@tysonfoster72232 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't go out just to buy the 40v impact, the drill on the other hand is heaps better than the 18v drill I've got. I've got the td171 and I like it alot more than the XGT.
@Damitsall2 жыл бұрын
This guy must have a bad motor or electronics in his Makita 40V. You can check other reviews online that are getting way higher numbers. I know for a fact my 40V, puts out over 200FTLBs. My 20 year old 18V, puts out around the numbers he was getting.
@fredygump55782 жыл бұрын
Can you guys compare brushed vs brushless from the same company? Like the milwaukee 18v brushed impact driver vs brushless impact driver. I assume brushless is quite a bit better, and I suspect the M12 brushless may be close to the M18 brushed? And of course do the other major brands as well.
@Patrick-8572 жыл бұрын
There's no comparison. For one, these companies haven't developed any brushed tools for years, so brushed tools are out of date models, the other thing is that brushless will destroy brushed every time. Brushed tools won't be around much longer. The dirty secret of brushless is that it's cheaper to produce. Economy of scale has kicked in with brushless, but it is waning with the brushed tools. They still make the brushed models, but only because the biggest investment is in R&D and setting up the tooling to manufacture them. Once in production, there's no sense ending production unless they stop selling. But to make a new brushed model? Why on earth would any company do that? It's old technology, and it's dying rather quickly.
@muscleman3692 жыл бұрын
The 3ah 2100 cells provide higher discharge rate vs the 4ah. You either get more capacity or more discharge.
@ianmcdermitt62952 жыл бұрын
Would really like to see how the dewalt dcf840 and even the old dcf886 would compare to the atomic. I know the 840 advertises less torque but for much less $$ and a higher IPM, might be serious competition.
@jamesbaumbach32942 жыл бұрын
You can't beat the value of Dewalt. Run my tools hard, always ready for the task. Plus black and yellow looks so much better. 😀
@shamwow79962 жыл бұрын
If the color makes you feel better lol
@giotispaok21672 жыл бұрын
Dewalt?Cmon lets be serious my friend.They are at the bottom together with bosch.Milwaukee Makita and hilti are the best.
@jamesbaumbach32942 жыл бұрын
@@giotispaok2167 Milwaukee is a marginally better tool. Never cared for Makita. Hilti doesn't offer a wide platform. Dewalt makes me money, never let me down.
@giotispaok21672 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbaumbach3294 All of them are professional tools but for me those 3 brands are together at the top.You are right about he hilti by the way 👍
@jamesbaumbach32942 жыл бұрын
@@giotispaok2167 The man makes the tool. Not the other way around my friend.
@Android_Warrior2 жыл бұрын
I always click "Like" first and then watch the video.
@randr102 жыл бұрын
I have an older version of the Makita impact driver, the XDT13Z and it's already got too much torque with the 1500 inch lbs. It regularly snaps off high end bits, especially the ones I use a lot, the 1/2, 3/8, and 1/4 socket drivers. I've destroyed a lot of phillips bits with it too. I use the Milwaukee bits because they're supposed to be the best, and I think they probably are, but it still twists them in half with a 3 ah battery on it. I understand the big torque numbers demanded from the 1/2, 3/4 and 1 inch impacts because they're going to be able to take those big torque numbers on the mandrel, but on these little 1/4" hex guys, I don't get it. Bigger isn't always better.
@beerbeforebreakfast2 жыл бұрын
You have said it!. Impacts from 10 years ago had enough power for what we use them for. Key nowadays is getting power adjustments for the insane power.......makita! There newest 18v is what i use and it can set 6 inch lags or tighten screws for cabinet pulls, just push a button.
@Inertia8882 жыл бұрын
@@beerbeforebreakfast I'm looking for one for a project, and I am seeing Milwake as overpowered. Ripping through and making holes, but breaking stuff. I am seeing a lot of people saying that they are Happy with Makita's performance overall. I have been a fan of Makita in the past, was hanging their drivers on my belt while putting up ducts. Although DeWalt's tempting, and I like the power curve compared to Milwake, it's not as aggressive, but top torque same. It is feeling more and more like I should stick with Makita. One driver to build the frame and finish the shelving.
@paulnorman82742 жыл бұрын
@@Inertia888 The big lump of a 4amp battery is not doing such a limited power tool any favors, though. Put the 2.5 on, and it's more like an old compact Impact. The Dewalt is just impressive for its almost 12V like size, yet modern 18V power. I personally like the way Makita is going with 40V and 40x2. But they're trying to bite over a lot with one battery system. Hope they don't end up shortchanging the power-to-size-and-weight of their smaller, bread and butter, tools, in order to power the bigger, more specialized stuff.
@eliteairsoftm4p9642 жыл бұрын
Just bought one of the new dewalt dcf850 bare tool for $99 at Home Depot Black Friday sale, better hurry because they only put out 10 and a hour later only had 4 left
@redwhiteblue78312 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information... The Home Depot has this Dewalt compact driver (bare tool) for $99
@Dave-dh7rt Жыл бұрын
Im going to buy the Japan only makita TD002G. Its made in japan, and can remove 300-350ft/lb fasteners. I found it on ebay for $170.
@SH-di8im2 жыл бұрын
If A tool gives you the fizz it is the right one for you for me it is Milwaukee and I know they’re the best
@kennedymcgovern54132 жыл бұрын
Bought the DeWalt 850, tool only, at Home Depot yesterday (November 16, 2021). $99.00 I don't know how long that deal will last...but if you read this close to the date above, you can jump on it!
@nepicness2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, been looking forward to more 1/4 hex drivers!
@legobuildingsrewiew75382 жыл бұрын
maybe you should add a torque per weight rating aswell for these smaller or mid size tools. I think its important to consider.
@JimmyMakingitwork2 жыл бұрын
Nice test as usual! To me they seem close enough that i’d go for the least expensive. Any would serve it’s owner well I think.
@adamfehr19942 жыл бұрын
I would worry more about trigger feel and ergonomics, Makita can’t be beat when it comes to their soft triggers. It depends what you use it for but the Makitas the most versatile🤷🏼♂️
@momostayzanko20782 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for your efforts, really appreciated... plz if u can test Kobalt XTR impact driver.
@MrBatman96142 жыл бұрын
Re do the test with the power stack battery's. They were made to go with new tech in tools(dcf850b) for way more power then standard lithium batterys
@Ruudwardt2 жыл бұрын
Cool tests. To get more complete 'performance' result, there should be a power test as well. You know, torque x speed = power. Some of the lower torque devices can screw in some things faster when the real power is similar.
@blendpinexus14168 ай бұрын
i'm noticing that most of the xgt lineup is just to offer the tool in xgt compatible form so the customer can optionally only hassle with just the one battery type. personaly not a fan of the 40v max's 10s config requiring quite a large battery pack, but it'd be nice to see makita give the lxt line some love, even if it broke compatibility with their older lxt tools
@crystaldragon1412 жыл бұрын
If you listen to the audio the makita seems to noticeably bog down. I wonder if they messed up with the motor controller.
@nakedapprentice2 жыл бұрын
Seems more likely that it was on the wrong power mode or on of the auto modes. My XGT drop ve absolutely smashes anything my works mates have. Even the DeWalt fanboys are impressed with the torque
@donvazquez49822 жыл бұрын
Great video, would be nice to see again Milwaukee and Dewalt, but with the new battery 🔋 of dewalt called (PowerStack 20V) not sure if it will make a big difference. They claim to be smaller and a bit more faster.
@kanehoward7050 Жыл бұрын
@torquetestchannel at 9:56 the DeWalt was still climbing at the 10sec mark where the Gen3 had plateaued. So it is possible the DeWalt would have matched it with 11 more ftlbs.
@jacobsebastien39102 жыл бұрын
Luv my Milwaukee fuel gen 3 impact driver ' "Nothing but Heavy Duty" 💪
@TheDirtyBirchTrails2 жыл бұрын
You should put the channel on hold till you get some of the new Dewalt Powerstack batteries. They would have easily won this test !!
@bodegabonsai70692 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is another aspect to testing that is far more subjective. Years ago I read a road test between a T-bird turbo coupe and a comparable BMW. The Ford beat the Bimmer on points, yet the test drivers preferred the BMW. I have used Makita cordless for years. They have never quit or let me down. Batteries recharge quickly and stay charged when not used for long periods. They feel solid, feel good in my hands. Ergonomically well thought out. I'm disappointed they are not scoring higher, yet I am reluctant to switch brands. However, I do have a Milwaukee reciprocating saw and made an adapter so it accepts the Makita batteries. I have to admit the Milwaukee saw is better than the Makita I previously used. And with the Makita battery, it's the best of both worlds.
@poet49552 жыл бұрын
Very very good reliable informative and facts-based review 👍🙂 From Europe