Total Drama All Stars Episode 1 - Heroes vs. Villains (720p)

[@AlexisCartoonLife]

I actually want Leshawna, Owen or Noah back on the show...

[@henry497]

When noah and owen were eliminated in the rr, noah said they were asked to do the next season of- and then it cut off. It might be td but well find out

[@donathan2933]

Yeah Owen won

[@victoriayelder3853]

Noah should have returned

[@bigchill4203]

Owen was planned for this season, but didn’t make the cut.

[@coolvideos5113]

Alexis' Cartoon Life I wanted Owen and Dawn to return

[@crgii8472]

"Jalapeno? When did you get here"

[@slayforkatya]

just your average emo XD I Lindsay was so funny this season. Lindsay: IM FLYINGG. Lindsay: *votes self* lindsaay: yea whats the matter with you?

[@jenniferlopez901]

Gotta love Lindsey

[@Josephedery721]

The spicy vegetable jalepeno or heathers boyfriend????

[@Josephedery721]

But you all r right u gotta love Lindsay and gwen

[@Josephedery721]

Wait what happened to trent

[@razorratproductions3499]

Owen should have at least been here, along with Brick and Leshawna.

[@patriottic7315]

IMO, Brick should've replaced Sam, they are both heroes, and Brick could easily have been eliminated in Moon Madness. (Episode 5.)

[@roadrollarequiem8560]

tdas should've been a 26 episode season

[@brandonezdoofenshmirtz2916]

I agree with 2/3 of those suggestions

[@bigchill4203]

Fun fact: Owen, Brick, Anne Maria, & Cody, were all planned to make a return for this season, but ended up not making the cut. Anne Maria was replaced by Gwen, while Brick was replaced by Sam.

[@bigchill4203]

@@PierrePreciousflinger Honestly, I completely agree.

[@smashshane9434]

I know that many people didn't exactly like this season but to me I personally liked it because of the idea of bringing multiple generations of contestants from previous seasons together. And personally I think Fresh TV should do more seasons like this.

[@gresonvillaluz591]

Smash Shane I’m with you, Total Drama All-Stars is the bestest Season of them all!😁👍

[@AlCold8]

Greson Villaluz I don't agree with you. For me is the worst by far. Anyways everyone has their own opinion, which is totally respectable.

[@gresonvillaluz591]

Alejandro Calderón Well, haters gotta hate. That’s what others say.

[@TheLivingBluejay]

Many people didn't like this season because Lindsay was barely in it.

[@mslone6094]

I love All Stars, but theres one thing I never have been able to understand... In TDI Chris states everybody is 16/15/17 and with the one year time lapse between Action and world tour, between world tour and revenge of the island, and between this seasln and revenge of the island, the original cast should be like 19, and since the new cast from ROTI are about 16, in this season the original cast is about 19 and the new cast is 17. Isnt that a little unfair??

[@aalicce]

alejandros return made me so happy

[@starless4146]

I totally died when she called him Jalapeno!!

[@loydalearnold3685]

​@@starless4146Lindsay

[@starless4146]

@@loydalearnold3685 who??

[@loydalearnold3685]

​@@starless4146Lindsay is the dumb one

[@amarooo.thecutie]

JALEPENO*

[@terrancelaval3771]

Last season Jo's team had one less member but she complaines when her new team has 1 less member this time. What the hell, Jo?

[@kemperrogers5101]

Chris said he needed the part during the Ezekiel prank.

[@crazydarius3321]

In my opinion I think All Stars was a ok season. I think they should at least have a different cast with more episodes or wait for total Drama pakitew (sorry for messed spelled) island to be over and do a big all star season with them in it.

[@shanemiller6114]

Ayep

[@coolvideos5113]

CrazyDarius 3 I liked it too

[@Alex-bk5hc]

shoulda had less ROFI cast members cause the original cast was way better and i cant believe they lest owen off this cast and kept siera

[@mr.eazilymctriggered9369]

19:39 Lindsay votes herself off. Unlike Total Drama Action, this one was fully intended.

[@io8555]

You mean island also she vote herself in action

[@bigchill4203]

@@io8555 You didn’t understand their comment lmao this season she _intended_ to vote herself off, whereas in Action, she didn’t intend to do it.

[@raulalejandroortez4008]

@John the TD and Kpop fanboy She draw the X on her own face because she wanted to do. Listen to her confessional from 16:13 . She wanted to leave because it wasn't worth it this time. While she didn't lose the challenge on purpose, she was sure that she wanted to leave when her team had the first elimination ceremony. She put that X on her face to be sure that she will be the one to leave. Look at her reaction at 20:11 - she knew what she was doing.

[@isabellamackholden9769]

@@bigchill4203 She's afraid of disappointing Tyler so she quits

[@advisedgnu69backup72]

Votes Sierra: Lindsay Mike: Lindsay Sam: Lindsay Zoey: Lindsay Cameron: Lindsay Courtney: Lindsay Lindsay: Herself

[@killeranime3591]

This is a unpopular opinion but I loved all stars

[@simvsthewrld9661]

Agreed

[@mothysjar]

Wait is that an unpopular opinion?? I thought it was a great season!

[@Thegameshowhost420]

Me too

[@PurpledaisyShasta]

In my opinion it was the best

[@topdog23100]

I only like it because my favorite character Scott is in it

[@carmelacovarrubias1580]

Awww the Heroic Hammies Logo is so Cute 6:05

[@HoneySmacks653]

0:08 the escaped psycho liller with a chainsaw and a hook

[@Silent_Clouds]

They brought back Mike and Zoey the Couple very cute. :)

[@renan3626]

I love this show! This season is my favorite. :) Mike/Mal, Sierra, Cameron, Zoey, Gwen, Courtney, Scott, Heather, Alejandro and Lindsay in one season! Wow, they should make more all stars seasons with the Pahkitew cast: Dave, Shawn, Sky, Sugar, Sarllet, Jasmine, Topher, the twins Amy and Samey...

[@coolvideos5113]

Renan Kaique I agree ☝️

[@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods]

And max you should have included all the mergers

[@yuatried]

same

[@ChadKing69]

Even though they derailed Duncan he still carried this season on his back. GOAT

[@damienenjoyer]

you spelled Scott very wrong

[@ChadKing69]

@@damienenjoyer Scott sucked

[@Twistedgoat69]

@@damienenjoyernah he spelled duncan correctly

[@terragaming2442]

@@Twistedgoat69no he didn’t 💀

[@imcalling911_]

did you say Duncan or Scott?

[@TheLivingBluejay]

For anyone who only watched the show for Lindsay; they must of hated this one.

[@donathan2933]

I hated this season cuz Owen and LeShawna weren’t here. And I don’t care if Owen made a cameo appearance in All Stars

[@luuduonghy659]

@@donathan2933 But then I happy because most character in this season had been written very bad If they are here they could suffer from that

[@BLACK0UT717]

I keep forgetting lindsey was on all stars. Only on one episode

[@rockyfromtpot7346]

Me too

[@coolvideos5113]

The PrDisaster Which is sad 😔

[@donathan2933]

coolvideos5113 she’s the one who wanted to leave

[@luuduonghy659]

@@donathan2933 The sign for her to leave in first episode During the talk she had mention she doesn't want to win the season And during first vote of the season to pick who going home, Lindsay decide not to vote for Courtney, but cross X on her face mean she vote for herself AND SHE WAS RELIEF WHEN SHE WAS ELIMINATED :0

[@DreamTeam-yu8lb]

I was shocked when he came back and the fact Heather said this "theirs something I don't like about the robot" they are made for each other

[@twalls9720]

The real villains are Heather,Alejandro,Lightning,and Scott. I can’t even say Duncan is a villain

[@twalls9720]

@Andrew Weiland the only reason I said Duncan wasn't a villain because most villains make it to the final 2* *He did make it to the final 2,but Courtney was the villain of that season.

[@gamenwatch6269]

Chris determines the team and he put Duncan as a villian because we seen him blow up Chris's mountain in Season 4

[@twalls9720]

@@gamenwatch6269 Fair enough

[@donathan2933]

Andrew Weiland true

[@mayphan9779]

Also Gwen

[@mariasalazar1751]

2019 anyone?

[@kevinxd5002]

8:49 I Don't trust Anyone On This (beeping) (insert cuss word) Team Well that went well *all laugh evily 😈 *

[@jaxdark3757]

Elitekevin Plazys I think the robot said f ing

[@not-charley]

not all, I think Gwen chuckled

[@Beatbod]

God damn

[@ScaryCellar]

...I'm So Dead

[@ScaryCellar]

No Way Is That Going To Happen

[@shanelacbayan]

Alejandro’s return is the best👍

[@reetomonica9765]

I think Heather was trying to say about the "something he does not like about the robot" is Alejandro. Edit: I knew it.

[@yenneferthegrapefruit]

Add a spoiler warning please

[@sauce4279]

@Marshall Davis no need to be rude.

[@Mido_Hazem]

@@yenneferthegrapefruit Watch the Video Before Looking In The Comment, Its Not Our Fault Its the point Of Comments After All

[@niahart8028]

Fang comes out from the water Scott-Scared ahh! Mike Zoey and Scott-Frightened with fear Fang! Gwen-🤨? Who? Zoey-😊! Kisses 😚 Mike good luck! Gwen-Falls in the water with him The Sharks and Fang come out looking at Gwen growling at her Gwen-scared woah nice sharks! Duncan-frightened Gwen! Zoey-Uses her necklace to save her and Mike The Sharks go away Heather-impressed Woah! Sam-Cool!

[@topdog23100]

Heather:I Jo:Don't trust Duncan:Anyone Scott:On this Robot:Beep beep Lightning:Team! Gwen:I think that went well Me:I love all of you

[@GamerPuff]

I think we all know what the beeps mean

[@luciusmondragon3935]

Means villains

[@StevenDolce]

On this day in 2013, Total Drama All-Stars premiered on Cartoon Network. Happy 10th Anniversary!

[@skulleton0_o]

my computer smelled like toilet when lindsay got flushed

[@luciusulloalll9088]

17:22 heather: YOU GONNA BE KIDDING ME!! Duncan,countrey,lightning:😨 Mike and Cameron,Scott: confusing

[@travisbost469]

But Lightning doesn’t even know Alejandro not even Mike Cameron and Scott

[@redthewolf5743]

"Three seasons of kindness" yeah right ( sarcasm )

[@donathan2933]

Yeah she’s a boyfriend stealer but she made it up for her kindness in this season

[@notsaying8300]

IKR she was a complete bitch forever and suddenly she acts like she has always been nice

[@sammydroubi2667]

Couldn't they just be called the heroic hawk's?

[@coolvideos5113]

Sammy Droubi or the Heroic Horses 🐎

[@donathan2933]

coolvideos5113 yeah cuz Courtney is an actual horse

[@GodzillaAndSonicFanatic2003]

Villainous Vultures: Heather Duncan Lightning Jo Scott Gwen Alejandro Heroic Hamsters: Mike Zoey Cameron Sam Courtney Lindsay Sierra

[@io8555]

Gwen and Courtn3y should have switched

[@bigchill4203]

yes we watched the episode

[@coolvideos5113]

Silas Silvestre I agree

[@tin2169]

@@io8555 yee

[@kingmo8789]

I like it better if it were Heroic Hippos.

[@stephanieevjen]

Gwen will always be a hero to me. She's always been my favorite Total Drama contestant.

[@artybagel7864]

Same my guy

[@ObamaKerim]

I hate Gwen alot

[@Charchar_hazbinhotel]

Same she’s the best

[@tinaisbatman]

i used to like her until tdwt 😕

[@Rafael-uy5sm]

can't believe they brought liam back!!! he has always been my favorite!!!!!!

[@loukiamillen8834]

Liam who? Do you mean Lightning?

[@aalicce]

Whos liam.

[@loydalearnold3685]

​@@aalicceI think he means "Lighting"

[@deshawnlewin-mt2ht]

Who's liam

[@redidiwasntthere]

Who is liam

[@sasharose2393]

Heather: There's something about that robot I just don't like Me: **laughing hysterically**

[@Mari_ah10_O]

IKR I WAS LIKE SO HAPPY AND EVEUTIEIDIDJDK

[@Pigmcginnyrig]

Poor lightning, he never knew how the hotel was like

[@lesbowo7522]

The should of done this season after pahkitew so then it could of been 7 OGs and then 7 of a mashup between roti and pi

[@coolvideos5113]

TD Heathey Or 14 OGs, 7 PI, and 7 ROTI

[@duncanchillake8024]

What about the main ones such as the whole total drama island( with sierra, alejandro, blaineley and mr. Coconut) cast or ridonculous race cast i would expect goths to be in if they played once

[@geoffhaul891]

TD Heathey than there would be 3 teams since 7 x 3 = 21 and the mashup between the ogs and 7 of roti and pikatew cast I guess making it 21 contestants but they guessed since some people left they would have to make short contestants

[@duncanchillake8024]

@@geoffhaul891 actuallyyy they did the same in total drama world tour and got successful

[@geoffhaul891]

@@duncanchillake8024 there are 17 contestants that season but for an allstar season it would be bad since it's on the island and odd and the teams are 3 again makes really no sense

[@CreepTastic133]

3:21 The show should've given this kid a second chance. He did nothing wrong, all he wanted to do was win 1 million dollars but instead gets voted off first. 😤

[@Yes-qj4bi]

I know right ezikiel is the best chaticter

[@Thegameshowhost420]

He got his revenge later this season

[@waveylightningkenisis9359]

He said oh hell no

[@kemperrogers5101]

Well I was really hoping Chris was joking about him returning this season.

[@PhaserFelix]

OMG OMG!!! I was like. I miss the old people. And now I get them all!

[@joanieshamburger3816]

I'm kind of surprised that Chris didn't put Sierra on the villain's team because she blew up his plane in season 3

[@YoNo671]

Joanie Shamburger that’s what my friend said

[@coolvideos5113]

Joanie Shamburger That was an accident

[@donathan2933]

coolvideos5113 true plus Sierra totally carried Cody

[@Totallyjoy]

Aww I feel bad that Lindsey got out first , this season will be sad 😢

[@christiewang9577]

Fr she didn’t deserve that

[@cheetoproductions1786]

dang I really like the beginning of the episode then the intro transition

[@derrickdoss4793]

Derrick:Welcome To Total Drama All Stars Roxy Roxy:Wow Thanks Derrick

[@derrickdoss4793]

I Love Total Drama

[@Smiley_Park]

Somehow in this episode I related to Gen the most.

[@Thegamerman-gs9fh]

When will there be a season where everybody that played total drama and the Ridonculous race play one big game of total drama

[@MilenskiF.E.]

As far as I know, Total Drama focused on teenagers, and the Ridonculous Race contestants included different generations from young-to-old. And the Total Drama series do not focus on timeskips so they don't age and remain as teenagers, not including the Total Dramarama spinoff.

[@pixiefor7891]

My elimination order would've been 14.Sam 13.Lightning 12.Jo 11.Scoot 10.Courtney 9.Alejandro 8.Heather 7.Mike 6.Sierra 5.Zoey 4.Duncan 3.Gwen 2.Cameron 1.Lindsay to bad she was eliminated so early

[@walle7284]

the Badboy nah dude at least one antagonist gotta survive until the top 4-5 (Scott or heather) unless it’s total no drama

[@JeffreyBarkdull]

There are a few people that I wish were on this show: Owen, Beth, & Justin

[@xaviermoralesvasquez5324]

Trent,Geoff, Dj, and Bridgette too.

[@JeffreyBarkdull]

Why @@xaviermoralesvasquez5324?

[@xaviermoralesvasquez5324]

@@JeffreyBarkdullwell maybe not in this show but if they make a new season for sures all of them. Plus Katie,Sadie, and Eva.

[@JeffreyBarkdull]

Agreed @@xaviermoralesvasquez5324

[@coolvideos5113]

Jeffrey Barkdull For me it’s Izzy, Harold, Bridgette, DJ, Leshawna, and Owen.

[@michealhehehe1205]

Scott turned from a demon into a lil scared rat boy- I love him even more now--

[@LaineMann]

We are a minority.

[@robertscott9172]

I loved Lightning on the show. Plus Owen and my very favorite Chris.

[@Pigmcginnyrig]

10:45 Who wishes she said “Free real estate”?

[@randomuser7158]

My top Total Drama seasons: 1 TDI 2 TDWT 3 TDROTI These 3 are my absolute faves! 4 TDAD 5 TDA 6 TDPI AAND I DESPISE RIDICNLOUS RACE OR WHATECA

[@mayphan9779]

Is TPAD supposed to be TDAS

[@AvarageMexicoBall]

Ridonculous race is good smh

[@SomeOrdinary]

I'm here because they deleted the KZbin account that posted all the full episodes.

[@Totaldramafan1234]

Ik 😔

[@quintinblack14]

That killed me 😢

[@Totaldramafan1234]

I was wondering where it went then found out it got deleted

[@TotalDrama_Heather]

@@Totaldramafan1234hi duncan

[@Totaldramafan1234]

@@TotalDrama_Heather hi heather

[@driftpro3298]

Eva+heather=joe

[@dzubu3879]

Jo

[@magicbutterflysmith7070]

No doubt about it 😂

[@Charchar_hazbinhotel]

I hate joe

[@rxhou]

these are the people i wanted on it Heather Gwen Duncan Courtney Owen LeShawna Trent Lindsey Alehandro Sierra Lightning Jo Brick Cameron Mike Zoey Scott Anne Maria +pakitew island Sky Dave Jasmine Shawn Max Scarlett(her and Chris make an agreement that if she doesn’t try to destroy the island then she gets special treatment) Topher Sugar Ella

[@lol-xi6ms]

Shadower you are so right but I want DJ in it to he did well

[@coolvideos5113]

SuperSodazPotato Replace Trent with DJ

[@lol-xi6ms]

yeah that would be goods

[@coolvideos5113]

Shadower Hopefully they do another All-Star team

[@seanmartinez6705]

wait Courtney should be on team villain not Gwen

[@mr.eazilymctriggered9369]

Sean Martinez, true.

[@sebiepesina7177]

You got that right

[@princessstarlight2819]

Agreed

[@DeeJayBanana44]

At least Courtney should be on villain

[@HoneySmacks653]

Chris probably did it to mess with gwen

[@Lankeer84]

on the challenge i see the Cody key (wait what ? Cody it's unique ?!)

[@alinalopez1763]

*"jalapeno when did you get here"* *lindsay 2017*

[@okay-zb5zm]

i was so hyped that lindsay was on this show :(

[@velvettshoppe6226]

I know everyone down here is saying that Gwen should be a hero and not a villain, but I thin that her personalty is better for a villain.

[@coolvideos5113]

Velvett shoppe Same

[@AvarageMexicoBall]

Ok but COURTNEY ON THE HEROS? Honestly that is too messed up, switch courtney with idk Duncan? Episode 4 with them switching was the good point for teams, cause Courtney was literally a main antagonist and such a bad girl with a laywer and CIT status.

[@gamenwatch6269]

Come on Lindsay wasn't this stupid

[@donathan2933]

Yes she was, she hasn’t changed a bit

[@marioftwblazeftledcpndcpau8887]

She called Tyler Noah In total drama world tour

[@shreyaskumar4696]

My fav character will always be mike. I knew he was main character material and I’m really glad he got the attention in this season. Revenge of the island will always be favorite season tho

[@donathan2933]

He got enough attention in last season. The final two should be from Island and Roti

[@natesantibanez1917]

Cliff diving like season one

[@victoriayelder3853]

Yaaaaaay Alejandro is back *evil laugh*

[@iateatacoanddied6948]

11:16 Look! The finalists! And they are even in order of elimination!

[@Theboss-nr6uh]

Valeria Acosta omg that’s crazy, I just noticed it, such a foreshadow

[@mixmasterirod2967]

yessss mike's back

[@cindynoh8394]

11:13 AH! FANG! 😱😨😨 Who? 🤨

[@user-bn3br2ln1f]

3:13 That's basically me on a reality show 8:24 And that's me when I miss my date 13:39 When I go down a waterslide for my date

[@hannekirkeb6087]

So Lindsay can make a bike from scratch and sew a costume, but suddenly she can’t even push a cart?

[@fa1509]

This should have been classic vs revenge Classic:Duncan, Heather, Courtney, Gwen, Alejandro, Owen, Harold , Leshawna, Sierra Lindsay and Izzy Revenge: Zoey, Mike, Cameron, Jo, Lighting, Scott, Brick, Ann Maria, Dawn, B and Sam 22 contenders just like from season 1, this season was supposed to have more people, 14 is too small

[@marilyncabactulan6775]

Oh Man Linzie voted for herself and got eliminated huh 😫 I really like Linzie

[@bigchill4203]

lindsay*

[@Charchar_hazbinhotel]

*lindsay*

[@stirlingno.1296]

I think we can all agree that the title for this series is very misleading. For a title like “All-Stars”, it more or less screams “Favorites of fans and characters that viewers are (apparently) most familiar with.” If they were really going to for an “All-Stars” vibe, then you’d expect to see the entire cast up to this point.

[@donathan2933]

No they should just bring back, Heather, DJ, Gwen, Duncan, Lindsay, Courtney, Owen, Bridgette, Izzy and Harold. The original contestants who appeared in the first three seasons

[@walle7284]

Do- Nathan absolutely not there is good tdroi characters

[@blessingnhobwa578]

I love sams smile when he gets a marshmallow

[@jordansbeanieboos8318]

Al is back yayyy

[@mingchenwei1978]

KZbin is savage. I clicked something and it said “why this ad?”

[@io8555]

Its all Courtneys fault thqt Lindsays out

[@anthonymarshall6868]

Lindsay's fault, too. She drew an x on her face!

[@Kitty_undercover]

both faults

[@paper2941]

This show has some loose copyright and I love

[@stirlingno.1296]

So they chose the worst candidate for the first elimination: Lindsay. Like...f**king LINDSAY. Out of all the eliminations in the season, she just HAD to be the first, in spite of a lot of people before the season's release anticipating her to win.

[@mimikyufates576]

I think Lindsay came back because of that single episode of total drama Season 1

[@christophersmoviecorner3514]

1:50 From "Revenge of the island" Say hello to: Multiple Mike AKA: Chester Savlana Vito and Manitoba

[@LUV4C0URTT]

I gasped when Alejandro jumped out

[@thisyunco]

This is my favorite season :3

[@plushymariobros6370]

One of my favorite seasons too

[@alifsrabon4087]

Same

[@Kuromi_699]

Of course Chris would be in jail 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 0:58 I love how he was in jail 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 0:58

[@anthonymarshall6868]

Me: (sees Alejandro, gasps in shock)

[@clairevoorhees4715]

Scott: has fear of sharks Me:fear of ginypigs

[@jess_5377]

I'm so sad Lindsay got eliminated so soon😭

[@flipflopnerd4759]

Lashawna, Harold, Owen, Brick, and Dawn should have been there. I also wish they built more of the Jo and Heather rivalry

[@magicbutterflysmith7070]

So should B

[@morbidarts9722]

For the most part, I enjoyed the season, it was a tad forgetful but all in all a good watch

[@TheIceCreamWizard]

8:57 when the McDonald’s “mysteriously” blows up 2 days after giving my happy meal a GIRL toy

[@lilysivertson4706]

They missed half the theme music. I'm pretty sure that's how the original episodes are though

[@donathan2933]

They were too lazy

[@blulagoonanimation]

19:39 Lindsey. Why. That’s just sad.

[@chrissoniamullings6839]

When they said the didn't trust anyone on this team the robot said the f word

[@athrunjudejimenez2581]

6:42 & 8:01 that's Alejandro getting closer to you Heather

[@_ilvreki]

Skipped roti for this 😘😘

[@Quackasoarus]

Yay I'm not the only one

[@noraabb]

2:10 replay button for me because that was so funny

[@xboy9995]

I act Exactly like Duncan

[@donathan2933]

That’s cool not counting his personality in this season

[@glyph513]

this season had the most iconic characters but wasn't the most interesting

[@theresaharrell6314]

Wow

[@AlexisCartoonLife]

I'm surprised Counrtney jumped considering she didn't in Season 1

[@mslone6094]

Its been 4 seasons and has grown more confident and brave

[@AlexisCartoonLife]

true

[@Charchar_hazbinhotel]

*courtney*

[@francheskajulien8799]

she’s more braver and stronger than before so I gotta say I have a lot of respect ✊ for her

[@CJBGG]

Sierra is like Amy because they are stalkers of 1 person

[@joshmelon3881]

How did Scott get his body back?

[@KDawg92801]

Josh Melon healing

[@adriansookai]

@Wolf Aninations lightning won

[@donathan2933]

How did Sierra grow her hair back

[@donathan2933]

Neyla Gonzalez-Pereira it’s been two years since it melted

[@annettearmstrong7002]

@@adriansookai it depends where your from

[@keti101]

this is the story lindsay getting eliminated 1st