Total War: SHOGUN 2 1vs1: Date Bulletproof Samurai vs Line Infantry (FOTS) REMATCH

[@handsofrand6660]

half a unit of bulletproof samurai sprinting into a full unit of riflemen: "This is where the fun begins!"

[@liszarezo3658]

WAAAGH!...oh, not his Warhammer.

[@TotalWar1vs1]

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[@Jake-dh9qk]

Imagine if they had bulletproof line infantry samurais

[@attysthoughts3253]

they do, they're called Portuguese Tercos

[@stangota5187]

@@attysthoughts3253 they also use Plate armor which is the best armor in that era.

[@MrPathorn]

Well, Shinsengumi is the closest one since they kinda have Samurai spirit and Rifles but no Armor., But 19th century is the era of not using body armor since bullet were too stronk for any material at the time. Also Portuguese Tercos armor are not bullet resistant either. In fact only Bulletproof samurai are bullet resistant.

[@attysthoughts3253]

@@MrPathorn Bulletproof samurai aren't bullet resistant either. they just have high armor rating

[@liszarezo3658]

@@MrPathorn Not true. Cuirassier armor stop rife bulet from 50 pounds, and pistol from 5 pounds in 60 - XIX age. They were wery good befor smokeless gunpowder era.

[@kokolakGaming]

Perhaps the line infantry would've had a chance if they were in 2 ranks, didn't use suppression fire that early, and used guard mode. Guard mode has saved my ass so many times. Essentially, it makes so only the soldier that gets into contact with the enemy starts to melee, while his comrades keep shooting.

[@TotalWar1vs1]

Okay bro. Thanks for telling me how to use guard mode.

[@Gauge-lo2bp]

@@TotalWar1vs1 savage

[@megacookie73]

@@TotalWar1vs1 then why didn't you use it? Line infantry is way cheaper then bulletproof and if it could beat them with the tiniest bit of micro they're useless.

[@TotalWar1vs1]

@@megacookie73 Because I hadn't known it before kokolak told me.

[@elbolainas4174]

@@TotalWar1vs1 wait, you weren't sarcastic?

[@QueenAleenaFan]

"I fear your general is in mortal peril, sir!" Peril of having too much fun perhaps...

[@TotalWar1vs1]

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[@Mestari1Gaming]

The LI did much better this time, but they still lost.

[@TotalWar1vs1]

Because they used gun so much that they forgot how to use swords 😈. Respect the tradition!

[@Lo-tf6qt]

To be fair, if you trained for ~14 weeks to be line infantry (basically standing and getting as many rounds off as possible) I doubt you'd be a fair match to the guy who's literally been trained to kill mfs since he was in pre-school

[@qwertyzxcvbn6929]

@@TotalWar1vs1 they're the standard gun-armed infantry and they still managed to halve dudes who spent their lives training and probably own their gear what about putting them against imperial/shogunate infantry or the bears

[@alaric_3015]

shouldn't have used the suppressive fire till close since it decreases your accuracy and you only need the morale damage later in fight

[@TotalWar1vs1]

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[@kaplaw123]

@@TotalWar1vs1 now you have to do it again!!!

[@TotalWar1vs1]

@@kaplaw123 Ahhh, no.....😥

[@Jixxor]

Also having only 2 rows deep gunners makes kneeling fire 50% stronger, with 100% instead 66% of the unit shooting.

[@МихаилАлександрвич]

@@TotalWar1vs1 Line of riflemens should dragged to 2 row formation, is it was not obvious ? Third row doesnt shoot single shoot - all of them could just stay at homes that day (( Suppression fire reduce results, did some one managed three shoots ? So what is the point to lose accuracy ? And experienced commander could precalculate time of first gulp in maximum closing to increase damage, but to manage second gulp at devastating point-blank closure.

[@canadaismyfavouritecountry]

Is it just me, or can you actually see how some of the bullets don't create a splatter when they hit?

[@qwertyzxcvbn6929]

probably because it only injured the samurai or that's their bulletproof tag in play I dont know how the bulletproof tag works in S2 but I do know samurai units have 2 HP vs non samurai losers having only 1 bullets don't make a roll against armor unlike other projectiles though I'm not sure how much damage they deal source: S2 unit editor

[@Rider-lo9vt]

Reality = 0% Weaboo = 140%

[@lecoutcritique8854]

they need samurai proof infantry of the line

[@TotalWar1vs1]

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[@Kardia_of_Rhodes]

Remind me, aren't Line Infantry dirt cheap compared to Date Bulletproof Samurai?

[@TotalWar1vs1]

Yes, you're right. Line Infantry recruitment cost 770, upkeep 100. Date Bulletproof Samurai recruitment cost 900, upkeep 200.

[@Endwankery]

It's pretty nifty that even in a 1v1 fight like this in total war that there's so many different strategies you can employ for a unit like the line infantry

[@TotalWar1vs1]

Line Infantry is jack of all trades, they can serve all strategies well

[@kevinwarren9277]

Why don't you ever spread out your gun or rifle infantry. They are so much effective when spreading them out. Matchlocks can fire up to 66 guns when spreading them out and line infantry spread out can fire all 200 rifles when kneel firing. Keeping them in ranks of 3 decreases their effectiveness quite a bit.

[@TotalWar1vs1]

Because I'd like to keep the default formation of the units.

[@canagi7210]

why don't you stretch them first?

[@TotalWar1vs1]

I would like to keep the default formation for fair.

[@shakybill3]

@@TotalWar1vs1 War ain't fair, give them stick wielders the entire volley!

[@notanonymous3976]

@@shakybill3 but then they wont use loose formation appropriately. this is a simple unit comparison not competitive match

[@TotalWar1vs1]

@@notanonymous3976 👍

[@shakybill3]

Ya'll must side with the Shogun

[@LEEGOOVER9901]

Gun with ammo that designed to pierce armor... What kind of sorcery is this

[@jaeger9654]

Small calibber

[@jaeger9654]

Just like kevlar

[@HistoricalWeapons]

It killed half the units but at melee they line infantry stood no chance

[@articusramos808]

Modernization!

[@DrCruel]

They're not ready.

[@TotalWar1vs1]

Captain Algren shouted

[@JHohenhauser]

Damn, this game looks really fun. I should pick it up as soon as I can and play with the side with the narrator with a southern accent.

[@TotalWar1vs1]

Hope you enjoy it! 👍

[@decky5195]

i would had suggested lining the line infantry into 2 lines to give them that max firep ower against the melee unit and not use suppresive fire

[@TotalWar1vs1]

Yup, it's the most effective way to use them.

[@hafidlho7332]

man all the comments crying about "what if line infantry did this" lmao

[@TotalWar1vs1]

lol 😈

[@thedon9247]

Tuhday suhyr we duhfaynd!

[@TotalWar1vs1]

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[@tedjack5215]

The rifle range is too close.

[@TotalWar1vs1]

That's the default range.

[@jor1456]

Complain to CA , game's creators. These primitive guns also weren't that good for farther than 200 meters

[@TotalWar1vs1]

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[@apvtethic8818]

@@jor1456 those aren't 1600 guns from the original game, those units are from Fall of Samurai, they are 1870 rifles, they should be a little better

[@Falcon0BR]

@@apvtethic8818 Still hard to hit after 200m, try to hit with a WWII rifle and takes lots of pratice to hit a 200m target.