Total War Warhammer - Norsca Lore, Legendary Lords, Army, Units, and Tactics

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milkandcookiesTW

milkandcookiesTW

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Norsca is a faction in Warhammer fantasy that is very likely to be the next DLC race pack for Total War Warhammer and the early adopter bonus for Total War Warhammer 2. This video will cover the lore, army compositions, units, and tactics of Norsca, as well as Norscan Legendary Lord choices and how they might be implemented in Total War Warhammer in terms of gameplay and campaign mechanics.
Indypride from milkandcookiesTW also covers possible legendary lord choices, and possible gameplay mechanics like Seafang the Norscan Ghost Ship, Wulfrik the Wanderer, Egrimm van Horstmann, Throgg the Troll King, and new units like Skin Wolves, Chaos War Mammoths, Fimir, and more. Norsca will likely soon be playable in Total War Warhammer and Total War Warhammer 2!
Thank you very much to Loremaster of Sotek for joining me on this video, subscribe to his channel here - / @loremasterofsotek
Sources - Monstrous Arcanum
Warriors of Chaos 8th Edition Armybook
Warhammer Wiki

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@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Huge thanks to Loremaster of Sotek for joining me, as he is always a very well informed and incredibly useful collaborator on these kind of videos. Check out his channel here - kzbin.info/door/H4nPsl2ctS365aEfFBwxbg
@richardround2071
@richardround2071 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW are you able to say when the embargo on the battle at the fallen gates is lifted? And if so, can you tell us.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
I mean, the second our videos start going up, you'll know the embargo is lifted lol. I dont know if I can be specific, other than to say soon
@richardround2071
@richardround2071 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW don't worry about it, sounds like you can't. I'll try and be patient.
@MeanMachineCov
@MeanMachineCov 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, Many thanks to Sotek and Indy for this Video :)
@Bearyboo87
@Bearyboo87 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video guys, really interesting stuff. Btw have you seen Mazdamundi's skill tree? perhaps some angry spear shaking is in order.
@JoseSantos-xn4lp
@JoseSantos-xn4lp 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see a lore video like this (specially about Norsca) and I immedeatly click like. Glad to see Sotek returning to this channel. You 2 work well together.
@Lopata991
@Lopata991 7 жыл бұрын
you are so simple you don't even make your own joke, you steal them. Very simple. Good day
@JoseSantos-xn4lp
@JoseSantos-xn4lp 7 жыл бұрын
And you are the simplest of us all to get this triggered for such an harmless and "simple" joke. As far as I know there aren't any copyrights to YT jokes. You should probably get something better to do with your life, kiddo.
@JoseSantos-xn4lp
@JoseSantos-xn4lp 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe "memez" would be more to your liking? You are trying to be edgy but keep cutting yourself in your own edge. Just stop it, it's not doing you any good. Crawl back to your "memez" and let the rest enjoy their long awaited lore video.
@Lopata991
@Lopata991 7 жыл бұрын
make me food and color my fence...Jose
@JoseSantos-xn4lp
@JoseSantos-xn4lp 7 жыл бұрын
I think now would be a great oppurtunity for you to make a strategical retreat back to /pol/. You clearly aren't proving anything other than how bad you are at being edgy. And you aren't bothering you are entertaining me. Also how cringy do you have to be to keep saying "memez"?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Legendary Lords - 7:03 Unit Roster - 23:35 Fimir - 29:52 Monsters - 32:56
@kurogurochan7957
@kurogurochan7957 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW was waiting for this
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed :)
@God666Seed
@God666Seed 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW as you're an insider, will they showcase that much that staying up until 2:30 am to see the press conference is worth it?
@Wildboy789789
@Wildboy789789 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW mmm I want fimir
@omnisapient
@omnisapient 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW щуку
@gbogdan3528
@gbogdan3528 7 жыл бұрын
If they add werewolves it would be awesome!
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Dragantis1991
@Dragantis1991 7 жыл бұрын
Only think that I'm afraid is that because of pegi they may not add skin wolf because they are kind gore, yet they are super cool so I would love to have tham in norscan roster.
@GrievousKhan
@GrievousKhan 7 жыл бұрын
Bogdan Gaidur Turns out they did!
@Daveyo89
@Daveyo89 7 жыл бұрын
report Wulfrik for flaming
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
FUCKING REPORTED
@unnamedenemy9
@unnamedenemy9 7 жыл бұрын
Oh really now? Face me if you dare, stunted whelp, or do you lack even a redditor's courage? I thought the Anons of KZbin were great keyboard warriors, but perhaps you are no true Anon. Indeed, maybe you are instead some breed of neckbearded troll, though in truth, I have seen a finer beard on a 4channer's back-side!
@elistarr8270
@elistarr8270 7 жыл бұрын
unnamedenemy9 that was beutifull
@alexweirdyoung
@alexweirdyoung 7 жыл бұрын
"Face me if you dare, stunted whelp, or do you lack even an Elven maid's courage? I thought the Sons of Grungni were great warriors, but perhaps you are no true Dwarf. Indeed, maybe you are instead some breed of bearded goblin, though in truth, I have seen a finer beard on a Troll's back-side." -Wulfrik the Wanderer to Dwarf King Thurbad Stonebeard, in perfect Khazalid Worst insult ever!!
@ashwingautam3701
@ashwingautam3701 7 жыл бұрын
You and sotek make an amazing team together. I enjoy the heck out of these videos.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much glad you enjoy them :)
@Celadil
@Celadil 7 жыл бұрын
you're lore videos are always on point thanks!
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@iggyboom2
@iggyboom2 7 жыл бұрын
Liked the video during the commericial cause i already know it'll be quality. Love your stuff milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much really appreciate it :D
@Menselot
@Menselot 7 жыл бұрын
What better than seeing a werewolf tranforming ripping his previus form and seeing their flesh and guts all around them I can not wait to see them !!!!!!
@Menselot
@Menselot 7 жыл бұрын
ah also those bio trolls i just cry right now i want to see them in game (i feel bad for them because after eating those champions of nurgle they now face eternal suffering because they was hungry ...... i like it ) !
@victorhoyseth180
@victorhoyseth180 7 жыл бұрын
I can see wulfrik the wanderer as a really fun AI enemy, I can see it now. Karl Franz and his two armies moving to take out a beastmen horde, when blam Wulfrick teletports right in front with an army of Norse at his back and because of his insult ability he can single out the army he wants, Karl Franz, and suddenly your in a fight for your life.
7 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for these Mammoths so hard, hope to see them!
@taurentino
@taurentino 7 жыл бұрын
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS! I exclusively play Chaos in quick match. Its rough. Lets hope they flesh the roster out better with some more cost effective units.
@Powerofriend
@Powerofriend 7 жыл бұрын
Well done guys! this is why I subscribed :]
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@LLLouisss1
@LLLouisss1 7 жыл бұрын
I can see Wulfrik The Wanderer getting a battle at the end of the campaign like the WE and BM where he fights Archeon to prove himself to the Chaos gods.Or maybe somthing similar to Bretonia when they get to choose a "Crusade" which in his case would be picking a LL such as Karl or Grimgor and once he defeats that LL you win.
@galatygr9809
@galatygr9809 7 жыл бұрын
You two are my favorite two warhammer youtubers
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I appreciate it :)
@Sensko
@Sensko 7 жыл бұрын
Seafang could work as a banner, giving vanguard to one unit, with ulfrik getting it from a skill..
@mighty8357
@mighty8357 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the option being implemented of the chaos warriors confederating with all the norscan tribes. I mean it is possible for basically any other faction and considering that the chaos armies use the same troops I don't see why it shouldn't be possible
@satchel5909
@satchel5909 7 жыл бұрын
Hope it really is Norsca. Even if you wont play the race it will make the raid from the north much more interesting on the campain map. Like they say in the video
@nadicaus1277
@nadicaus1277 7 жыл бұрын
As excited as I am for this I will miss Feldman ingerson coming behind and destroying settlements with full stacks of chariots and marauders :(
@stefanpickel6012
@stefanpickel6012 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could also make it that Chaos can conquer ot absorb Norscan Tribes in some way to open up more ways to play them? While I wouldn't want them to get everything, it would be kind of cool if Chaos could recruit Marauders and very specific monsters (maybe specific to each settlement or province) there and have fallback settlements.
@anjairis
@anjairis 7 жыл бұрын
a long ass time ago when i was shorter i saw a picture of the miniature model of Egrimm van Horstmann on top a two headed dragon (woot a dragon with two heads?! i couldn't believe it) and he intrigued me a lot so i rly hope he will be in the game
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
he would be a great addition
@chubbyninja89
@chubbyninja89 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to see two kinds of werewolves or skinwolves, a more common one that is somewhat like the Beastmen Gor Herds, wielding dual axes, and a much more monstrous version that is proper monstrous infantry that maybe just slashes its enemies with it's large claws.
@heroofrome1533
@heroofrome1533 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, Ind and Sotek! Although, having the two Norscan factions, it would be nice if CA went back to older editions and made one of them a "good" faction, with diplomatic bonuses with Empire states and the ability to resist Chaos corruption for example. While, Wuflrick would lead the Chaos aligned one.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I think it depends on who the 2nd legendary lord is and how far back the character is taken from. If its another WoC character or a god aligned Norscan like Egil Styrbjorn, they wont be very nice or friendly with the Empire lol
@heroofrome1533
@heroofrome1533 7 жыл бұрын
Quite right. It's just because Skeggi are as far from Chaos as a stick is to a knife, so having some "good" aligned Norscans could be fun. They could also be spiced up if CA gets adventurous and creates the 'lore of Mannan (the God of the Sea)' instead of a more Chaos aligned thing for example.
@andrewschall8671
@andrewschall8671 7 жыл бұрын
Im guessing we'll see lords of pre-existing tribes so from what I know these are the lords/famous persons from the norscan tribes in-game that are around at this point: Sarls: Wulfrik the Wanderer Graelings: Scylla Anfingrimm or Haargroth the Blooded Skaelings: Egil Styrbjorn Baersonlings: Beorg Bearstruck (were-bear) or Aeson the Fallen (mutalith vortex beast) Aeslings: Unknown Varg: Surtha Ek Bjornlings: Unknown Troll Country: Throgg, King of Trolls I'd like to see Harry Hammerstorm (the Hammer). Harry Hammerstorm was the character on the cover of the first edition of Warhammer fantasy battles. Other Norse include: Lord Mortkin (hates Ostland and the von Raukovs for burning Norscan villages in retaliatory raids.) Valkia the Bloody (a Daemonic Valkyrie dedicated to Khorne. Probably from the Aesling or Varg tribes). Valnir the Reaper (likely from the Bjornlings as many tribes from the bjornlings are dedicated to Nurgle) If Egrimm van Horstmann was included he'd likely be part of the Crow or Raven Tribes as they are dedicated to Tzeentch but I'm unsure where they are located in Norsca. Ragnar Paingbringer (a lesser known chaos lord who burns part of the Wood Elves forest to the ground using you guessed it CHARIOTS (specifically the Gorebeast variant)) honestly Chaos has many champions. In early editions many champions were from the Kurgan (like the norscans but from the steppes of the Chaos Wastes to the east. So like mongols and huns and goths and scythians etc) the other main component of the mortal followers of chaos were the Hung who originated from the steppes above Warhammer China (think mongols and xiongnu). Chaos has a lot of interesting characters, quite a few of them are dedicated to a particular god however. Though in TW:W1 we did see Sigvald the favorite of Slaanesh and Sarthoriel the Everwatcher a greater daemon of Tzeentch so who knows.
@yoloman9411
@yoloman9411 7 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if he had the ability to zip to any faction leader in an instant, maybe for a big cost of gold, but u have to be sure you can beat them because you cannot retreat unless you win the battle against the legendary lord
@stewartorr8149
@stewartorr8149 7 жыл бұрын
I REALLY HOPE WE GET THROGG HES FUCKING AWESOME
@TheBarser
@TheBarser 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video mate :)
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome :)
@johlin94
@johlin94 7 жыл бұрын
My god I hope you are right! The Norse tribes would be soooooo cool! Also preordered the 2nd game so super freaking excited!
@beatthegreat7020
@beatthegreat7020 7 жыл бұрын
They should come out with a DLC based around Karak Eight Peaks where the Greenskins, Skaven and Dwarfs fight in a mini campaign.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
How would that work in Total War though? Karak Eight Peaks is only one settlement. And they've kind of cut themselves off from doing that already because of the King and the Warlord, they wont do DLC for an already released DLC
@beatthegreat7020
@beatthegreat7020 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW, they could make several outpost around the outside for the orks to attack and then make the fortress itself several levels and put the Skaven on the bottommost one.
@beatthegreat7020
@beatthegreat7020 7 жыл бұрын
BTW, when I say 'levels' I mean the floors that make up a Karak.
@kylevidauri4869
@kylevidauri4869 7 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, I figure the Fimir wont appear because they were from a much darker and edgier time in WHFB and were retconned for various reasons, not least because they probably stepped on the Dragon Ogres toes. I can see the Norscans sharing alot of Chaos monsters (Giants, Feral Manticore, ect) What I feel they should do and might do is round out their base first. Some Marauders with spears or something. Next, foot skirmishers. I'd love some Marauder Axe Throwers and Javlienmen, because they'd synergize so well with the rushy builds Norsca will favor. Better yet, they can be akin to Arrer Boyz in that they can kinda hold their own in melee against other low teir infantry. Moving up in tiers, I would expect some higher up infantry. Perhaps some well armored Hurscarls or even Norscan Berzerkers, something mid tier and capable of holding the line. With that though they need to give them some proper melee cav. I like the idea of mounted Hurscarls, or a variation of the current Norscan Horsemasters that is more melee focused. Something quick, middling, perhaps capable of handling Empire Knights in a pinch through raw charge damage to compensate for being more lightly armored. Next, the proper monsters. Were-beasts is totally a must, its really neat and fits the asthetic perfectly. Skinwolves are by far my favorite and I hope to Khorne we get us some man eating puppies. However, logically, Skinwolves should have to share territory with Chaos Spawn and Chaos Trolls. I think that theres no reason Norsca wouldnt have these, as they are a Chaos faction/subfaction staple and would pad out the monsters so to speak. Chaos Spawn are great because they wont break and murder low to mid teir infantry, Trolls are just brutal linebreakers and their regen+armor piercing just makes them so good even with shit morale. But where does that leave Skinwolves? I think they will be glass cannon, much like Vargheists. Think about it, fast as cav, terror causing, maybe armor piercing (Giant fuck off claws) but they would be unarmored, and though they'd have strong regen and frenzy, I can see them dropping much faster than Trolls or Spawn in a frontline engagment. Skinwolves should be backline marauders, eating skirmishers and tieing up cavalry. Meanwhile I doubt we will see Ettin, but with the new focus on dragons, I think we could see the Ice Drake, but chances are we'll just get a Feral Chaos Dragon. If we get both, that'd be neato, but if we do I almost want to see the Ice Drake as a flightless dragon-esque thing. It would be cool to see something akin to a giant chaos infused monitor lizard stalking the field, eating knights and freezing infantry to death. I can see the War Mammoth falling into the same vein as the Arachnarok, but maybe more verstile with better ranged support to compensate for less armor and speed. War Mammoth will probably synergize well with a Giant, and should probably trample one on the charge. Thems my two cents, but I think largely Norsca will keep alot of its shared Chaos units and we wont see much other than a few choice addons to give them a unique spice.
@mycaleb8
@mycaleb8 7 жыл бұрын
(Hears Loremaster of Sotek) INSTA LIKE!
@Admjoh
@Admjoh 7 жыл бұрын
Will you be getting early access to warhammer 2 this time around? I would assume so due to your closeness with the creators. Either way, thanks for all the great content, always refreshing and informative!
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I should provided nothing falls through. You're very welcome!
@mcmarkmarkson7115
@mcmarkmarkson7115 7 жыл бұрын
The unique gameplay could be Wulfric moving with his special ship.
@warhammerguy
@warhammerguy 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to have Wulfrik the Wanderer as a Legendary lord :D When i first heard about him from Arch when he made lore videos and lord speculation before the game came out i hoped he would be one of the chaos legendary lords :) But considering Chaos kinda was a wet fart i would love to see him in a refreshing new minor faction ;)
@Arhatu
@Arhatu 7 жыл бұрын
I think ability to duel the lord of the enemy army before battle starts would be a good mechanic and after seeing the dragon vs dinasour animations in e3 trailer I hope those animations would be matched ones.I wouldn't enjoy it after the battle starts.
@Orcbanger
@Orcbanger 7 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to hear some speculation how the Norscans will transfer to WH2. Obviously, there will be no mammoths in Lustria.
@Xynerorias
@Xynerorias 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, even though Norsca is cool, I would have preferred Middenland, playing as the unbowed Boris Todbringer, trying to legitimize himself to the eyes of the other elector counts (if you don't know the lore, Franz's election isn't really legitimate as all elector counts but Boris have been bribed). Because we have multiple factions for each races except for the Empire, where we can only play as Reikland.
@lucasmujica3084
@lucasmujica3084 7 жыл бұрын
Xynerorias I prefer mammoths, srry.
@entspannter
@entspannter 7 жыл бұрын
Xynerorias same here . Wolfes for life :)
@Xynerorias
@Xynerorias 7 жыл бұрын
Martin Vargic Ye I know that, I probably spent as much time in the workshop as actually playing the game. But even though the modders work is fantastic, what is done by CA is still next level, just look at Bretonnia: even though Parter (I think it was his name) made a Bretonnia overhaul etc, what CA brought us in the FLC is of higher quality (modders can only use the existing assets I know, they can't really create new game mechanics). So that's what I want, a fully fledged out faction of Middenland, with race specific mechanics (not a lame copy of the Empire). But hey, Norsca is still very good and promising, and even though that's not what I wanted, I'm still hyped about it.
@lastdefenderofxhotl
@lastdefenderofxhotl 7 жыл бұрын
Xynerorias I feel you man Boris needs his love.
@johnmdify
@johnmdify 7 жыл бұрын
I think they will be added eventually though.
@alwombat7
@alwombat7 7 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot about Harald Hammerstorm aka Henry the Hammer as a possible lord character.
@AndersMurberg
@AndersMurberg 7 жыл бұрын
MILK FOR THE KHORNEFLAKES
@magecraft2
@magecraft2 7 жыл бұрын
Personally I would like a faction in Norscans that resist Chaos and fight against them, From long ago I remember this was a part of the Norscans until that was changed to them being just chaos followers. One thing that always confused me is Chariots for Norscans ????? they are a sea people from rocky ground, the Norse had limited use of horse. Now I know there are chaos people who do use chariots as they come from plain's.
@praetor167
@praetor167 7 жыл бұрын
Vilitch the curseling could be a caster for the norsican army
@arigoshi9770
@arigoshi9770 7 жыл бұрын
you forgot about bjornling, i wanted to know the story behind them appearing in the south rather than the north. nonetheless a really informative video!
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
There's no real story to them appearing in the south, CA just realized that there needed to be a threat to the Badlands and Estalia/Tilea so they introduced a bunch of stacks spawning there during the Chaos invasion. Glad you enjoyed!
@astrith
@astrith 7 жыл бұрын
Heh Fimir as a race were present in the fist edition of the Warhammer Fantasy, but I guess were a bit forgotten later on. Or maybe the got extinct? ;)
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
I think they were essentially squatted in 4th edition and then came back as a supplement in 8th
@chaosundivided7843
@chaosundivided7843 7 жыл бұрын
that's good at least can't wait to play skaven
@Spyder3107
@Spyder3107 7 жыл бұрын
Surtha Ek is even beyond CA's comprehension
@karolkwiecjasz9356
@karolkwiecjasz9356 7 жыл бұрын
I think the troll king is a bit more useful than the khorne champion. Expecially scince Norsca needs him and his Troll Country to be a fast forward outpost for them. Without it they'll be run over by Winged Lancers... Ice Dragons are a pretty frosty creature. Maybe they could make them balanced by making them very slow as the ice works against them too even if they're mostly immune? Actually, Ogre Thundertusks match Warmammoths in size. I belive they are a bit higher and wider, so yeah. Norsca would actually be a strong contender to recruit Chaos Ogres as their cheap tier-1 monsterous infantry. I can see Bearsonling Skintearers as a Regiment of Renown if they decide to give them. Overall, I just wish that Norsca and Chaos Warriors to have entirely diffrent unit roosters with the exeption of some base infantry and monsters as the ones who sell the game would propably brag abaut unit variety for as low of a cost for them as possible....
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
If CA makes them playable, they will for sure have a very different roster than Warriors of Chaos. I think Throgg King of Trolls is a pretty likely choice as 2nd legendary lord yeah.
@karolkwiecjasz9356
@karolkwiecjasz9356 7 жыл бұрын
I just really don't like units repeating themselves across diffrent races and subfactions having too much in common. Imagine how the same hounds of chaos and other monsters hurt my soul when I see them in the beastmen army. Couldn't they just reskin them and give a little bit diffrent stats????
@KingFluffs
@KingFluffs 7 жыл бұрын
River trolls look nice.
@KorosuKoell
@KorosuKoell 7 жыл бұрын
How does the size of the war-mammut relate to, let's say, an Arachnarok spider?
@LyricalDJ
@LyricalDJ 7 жыл бұрын
Let's speculate for a minute. War mammoths can carry a lot of Norscan warriors. An entire unit, according to Loremaster of Sotek (later he says 50 to 60). Let's just say that I don't think an Arachnarok can carry even half that many _goblins_ let alone Norscans.
@indypride50
@indypride50 7 жыл бұрын
Way, way bigger ;P
@richardround2071
@richardround2071 7 жыл бұрын
KorosuKoell uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20121202/thumbnail/a6ahubus.jpg Mammoth, giant squig, arachnorok spider
@KorosuKoell
@KorosuKoell 7 жыл бұрын
hui that will be interesting to see ingame. thx for the picture
@trippfields279
@trippfields279 7 жыл бұрын
King of the Trolls! King of the Trolls!
@justanassassin
@justanassassin 7 жыл бұрын
Another Lore video? Indy you're far too generous!
@johnbalsz7326
@johnbalsz7326 7 жыл бұрын
its all about papa nurgle lol cant wait till god based armys it would make so much sence to do and have it to were there was some kinda competition to beat the other in goals of some sort
@miguellemir242
@miguellemir242 7 жыл бұрын
Norscans are not Chaos xD? They form the backbone of the Chaos Warriors. Sigvald is Norscan and Archaon himself is Half Norscan. I kinda saw redundant how they could make them into a sepparate faction, but Im interested to see what CA will do with them
@miguellemir242
@miguellemir242 7 жыл бұрын
Norscan Culture revolves around the worship of the ruinous powers, the Chaos Gods. They know them by different names, but they are still Chaos worshippers. They were banished by Sigmar due to this fact. The only difference between them and "pure breed" Chaos Warriors (if such difference could be applied) is that Chaos Warriors are akin to a Warband of religious Zealots while the Norscan, the Khurgan and the Hung represent the nations from which said zealots hail from. Still the difference is minimal: Norscan see Chaos mutations as blessings from the Gods and all the greatest warriors aspire to Daemonhood. Wulfrik the Wanderer himself is a Chaos worshipper
@trippfields279
@trippfields279 7 жыл бұрын
Martin Vargic "Though typically larger and stronger, they are not unlike other men, and in times of peace can be found hawking their wares in towns such as Marienburg. Yet in other respects they are a race apart, worshipping outlandish gods and living lives altogether harsher. *Most importantly of all* they live in the shadow of the Realm of Chaos and cannot truly escape it's power" -- "When Chaos is ascendant, the Northmen put aside their rivalries and gather under a champion of Chaos who they will follow to the corners of the world In the name of conquest. To the Northmen there is no greater honour than to fight and die in the armies of the Immortals." -- Those statements were taken directly from the 7th edition Chaos army book. Yes, not every Northman worships Chaos, but the large majority do. Granted, I would still argue that this doesn't necessarily make the Northmen all "evil" in the traditional sense of the word, as the Gods are so prevalent in their lives that to deny their power would be foolhardy.
@Goraka91
@Goraka91 7 жыл бұрын
Norsca isn't part of the Chaos Wastes but the difference is semantic. Like the rest the northmen belong to Chaos all the same.
@chaosundivided7843
@chaosundivided7843 7 жыл бұрын
wow its either skaven or norsca probably norsca, skaven are probably gonna be in a dlc
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Skaven are confirmed to be on the cover of the limited edition version of Total War Warhammer 2. They are the 4th race in game 2, definitely not DLC
@ExtradaemonYT
@ExtradaemonYT 7 жыл бұрын
Scyla Anfingrimm?
@indypride50
@indypride50 7 жыл бұрын
Are you asking who he is or suggesting him as a possible legendary lord or what lol
@zillafire101
@zillafire101 7 жыл бұрын
He would make an interesting lord.
@StandAloneComplex019
@StandAloneComplex019 7 жыл бұрын
wish you added pictures of the unit when in discussion
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
The Norscan marauder/whaler units dont have much art and many dont have models. The rest of the video did
@StandAloneComplex019
@StandAloneComplex019 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW I understand, well thank you for these videos. i always watch your content. keep up the good work
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks much appreciated :)
@thisnameisnotfake517
@thisnameisnotfake517 7 жыл бұрын
rip Estalia/Tilea
@Gratify999
@Gratify999 7 жыл бұрын
:'(
@giannipinotto4193
@giannipinotto4193 7 жыл бұрын
a norsca tribe can be a possible faction . It s a good idea and cool. there are also the ice dragons in norsca right ? -i would prefer albion- anyway for tilea , estalia and border princes. .... they need to divide the territories in little provinces before dog of war . It s more near to the lore. they are not unite states. so we can have the different city states for tilea , the estalia kingdoms and the mercenarys princes . also the religion (religions in general need new mechanics) of myrmidia need to be added. for TW 2 araby (needed because of the map) and amazons can be created for minor factions. plus vampire coast , skeggi colony ecc. .. in the 3 for minors. .. lahmians, kislev , (midderland flc) , other imperial provinces.
@giannipinotto4193
@giannipinotto4193 7 жыл бұрын
fimir can be a minor faction if GW show some love. -even malal-
@Temgee749
@Temgee749 7 жыл бұрын
Wait I thought they stopped making dlcs for Total War Warhammer or did you mean they could add it for Warhammer 2?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
There is another DLC race pack coming for Total War Warhammer 1, probably some time in August. Whatever it is (its gona be Norsca) it is the same race as the preorder early adopter bonus for game 2. So if you preorder game 2, you get this TWW1 race pack for "free"
@Temgee749
@Temgee749 7 жыл бұрын
oh cool really wanted to give Norsca a go so I'm glad they're doing that, is there any links just wanna read up on it or do you recommend I google it?
@robinandersson862
@robinandersson862 7 жыл бұрын
+milkandcookiesTW Does the Chaos War Mammoth rival the size of the mighty Kholek?
@ivomolenaar1599
@ivomolenaar1599 7 жыл бұрын
Robin Andersson it is far bigger
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Yep Mammoth is way bigger than Kholek ;)
@johncmousley
@johncmousley 7 жыл бұрын
cold + wandering; kind of applies to Ogre Kingdoms as well?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
They said they're reworking an already existing faction on the current campaign map. Its Norsca lol
@johncmousley
@johncmousley 7 жыл бұрын
why can't you let me have my dreams ;)
@chainreaction795
@chainreaction795 7 жыл бұрын
Where there is Fimir there is Albion
@chainreaction795
@chainreaction795 7 жыл бұрын
Ngl I really want to see Albion in game 2, and it will need to be added as part of the combined campaign - which is something not many people are addressing on youtube
@scottfordham
@scottfordham 7 жыл бұрын
Mammoth's give me Mammoth's
@iamalpharius6288
@iamalpharius6288 7 жыл бұрын
Damn it give me skin wolves already.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
pls CA
@Hollowjag
@Hollowjag 7 жыл бұрын
Its too much to dream whit Nippon and Cathay ?
@giannipinotto4193
@giannipinotto4193 7 жыл бұрын
Diego Snak yes it s like saying i want the kingdoms of inds , albion and malal horde
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Who knows what CA might do after the official trilogy is complete
@giannipinotto4193
@giannipinotto4193 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW Even the introduction of the navys , when the game of man'owar is finish and economical stable ? (2-4 years just when the III game is finish) So GW is satisfied of the money and can agree with let CA make the naval part of the game ? It would be awesome. Also why there are no civilians in the citys ? It s a small thing , but can give more athmosphere. Especially for divide "evil" and "good" in a siege. With the fact that is a + 18 they can add poors , nobles , mens , womens , olds and adults , teens and childrens . Even animals like chickens, cows, pigs ecc. .. Warhammer it s Grimdark ... or no ? For the mods it s more material to use. Anyway when the trailer for the skaven arrives it would be cool if someone in a game call warhammer vermintide do an event. ....
@-V-_-V-
@-V-_-V- 7 жыл бұрын
Hey indie what's your favorite chaos god/faction?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Skullcrushers of Khorne are my favorite god aligned unit, but I think Slaanesh and their aesthetic is pretty cool
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
You mirin' brah?
@-V-_-V-
@-V-_-V- 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW yep!
@algorebull7096
@algorebull7096 7 жыл бұрын
What about the Zoats? =(
@frankcastel5294
@frankcastel5294 7 жыл бұрын
Fimirs are the wfb version of the irish/celtic fomorians, not a completly unique creation from GW.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I had never heard of fomorians before
@Lopata991
@Lopata991 7 жыл бұрын
Inb4 Norsca is going to be more complete and fun than Chaos.
@LyricalDJ
@LyricalDJ 7 жыл бұрын
Which isn't that strange. CA have put in more effort to fill out rosters and create special mechanics (which work and aren't just a pain in the backside) after their experiences and feedback from the community. That's not to say they couldn't have do so for the warriors of Chaos. I just think that at this point fans of Chaos will have to wait for the third game.
@ckhawk00
@ckhawk00 7 жыл бұрын
This is all nice and stuff but CA seems to have spent too much time on units and tactical game play (granted it was needed) and not enough time on making the strategy interesting. (the campaign map)
@glutenfreeboi6693
@glutenfreeboi6693 7 жыл бұрын
They will add much more interesting canpaign stuff and mechanics on campaign map, just wait it will be great 👍🏻
@cyberiankorninger1025
@cyberiankorninger1025 7 жыл бұрын
good video but too many chaos god specific units in here we wont see those before TW:WH3
@FinderofNemo
@FinderofNemo 7 жыл бұрын
People are gonna lose their shit if it's somehow not Norsca.
@Fiscalvids
@Fiscalvids 7 жыл бұрын
this video made my dingus tingle then grow 3 extra heads with teeth all over them
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Slaanesh is pleased
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
So is Tzeentch
@brotherborry6466
@brotherborry6466 7 жыл бұрын
mmmmm..... mammoths are Comeing? 😀
@iluvmycountry100
@iluvmycountry100 7 жыл бұрын
Vikings? War mammoths? Werewolves? Wtf is not to like I swear y'all are so fucking petty.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
its a pretty awesome roster lol
@iamscoutstfu
@iamscoutstfu 7 жыл бұрын
Soooo, the new race isn't really a race, just warriors of chaos lite.
@iamscoutstfu
@iamscoutstfu 7 жыл бұрын
Lol at me saying they're chaos life right before it's claimed they aren't. But they kinda are. At best a sort of "sub-race" that I've never even seen played as an army. , These guys are basically Chaos' equivalent to the different skaven clans.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Their unit roster shares minimal overlap with the Warriors of Chaos. Completely different monsters and likely very different campaign mechanics as well. They arent a subfaction, a subfaction has essentially the exact same roster as its main race. Warriors of Chaos dont get Fimir, they dont get War Mammoths, they dont get Skin Wolves or Ice Wyrms or Blood Krakens.
@iamscoutstfu
@iamscoutstfu 7 жыл бұрын
meh, that just seems like they're trying to hard to make them a different faction, when they really aren't. They're, like you described, chaos lite. I don't see anything wrong with that. If they want to make them different they have to play different. They would need to rely MOSTLY on monstrous creatures or maybe be REALLY good at getting over/through walls but not very good at pitched open battles. That would really make them stand out as different, instead of chaos but with some different units. Imagine playing varg and trying to avoid enemy army's at all costs during early to mid game while trying to get from one town to the next to raze the place and therefor accrue more troops so you can eventually topple the whole faction once you've got massive army (think mongol hoard) that just can't be stopped. It'd be really exciting to play that way.
@MegaSyha
@MegaSyha 7 жыл бұрын
why no Tomb King???
@akselp
@akselp 7 жыл бұрын
Because that would need the campaign map to be expanded and CA wont do that until game 2 or 3.
@horusx8987
@horusx8987 7 жыл бұрын
Put Egil Styrbjorn in the game. I will cream my fucking pants. Hands down my favorite Norscan chaos champion
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
He's super metal and awesome ;)
@kylevidauri4869
@kylevidauri4869 7 жыл бұрын
What, no Vilich the Cursling?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Like Valkia and Festus and possibly Dechala, he seems likely to come with Chaos divided as a Tzeentch legendary lord
@kylevidauri4869
@kylevidauri4869 7 жыл бұрын
Fair nuff.
@jack5001ful
@jack5001ful 7 жыл бұрын
so no skaven?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Skaven are the 4th playable race in Total War Warhammer 2. They will not be a race dlc for Total War Warhammer 1
@jack5001ful
@jack5001ful 7 жыл бұрын
oh they just haven't shown them yet?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Correct. Norsca or whatever the race pack will be is being unveiled early next week
@SquatchViking
@SquatchViking 7 жыл бұрын
#THROGG
@seanhenry7174
@seanhenry7174 2 жыл бұрын
Only wulf-wuf
@Black_Phillip
@Black_Phillip 7 жыл бұрын
What's with these hipsters saying they would rather have just another boring Empire faction? I could see that being a free lc but if you're paying for dlc they better have new unique monsters or units like Norsca will and not just be a copy paste army of the Empire like Middeland or Kislev. So what if you get one lord on a bear. Maybe they're seeing it from a single player perspective rather than multiplayer.
@trippfields279
@trippfields279 7 жыл бұрын
Black Phillip Middenland isn't really a copy paste. In the Lore, they are about as different culturally from the rest of the Empire as you can get. Cult of Ulric units abound. And Kislev is waaay different. Winged Hussars, Ice magic, and Horse Archers.
@IvanKala
@IvanKala 7 жыл бұрын
This other guy Loremaster of Sotek, seems he is into fantasy overall...but.... shame, shame shame...he doesn't know who Mumak/Mumakil (plural) or Oliphaunts are. What a blasphemy.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
lol yeah hes a Warhammer guy, not sure hes super into LOTR stuff
@Phantom-38
@Phantom-38 7 жыл бұрын
Like if you also cringed when Indy pronounced Jarl as Garl. Btw, Indy, it's pronounced like the j is a y, so the pronunciation is spelled out as yarl.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah I learned after I uploaded it
@Phantom-38
@Phantom-38 7 жыл бұрын
Just trying to help, love your content. Could you do a Lore, Army, and Tactics Video for the Dawi Zhar Next, or Kislev
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
Chaos Dwarfs might be next up yeah, we'll see
@Neb-uj4xt
@Neb-uj4xt 7 жыл бұрын
Indy-SENPAI! Notice me!!
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
You are noticed Dreaded Dreamer!
@Neb-uj4xt
@Neb-uj4xt 7 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW Thank you SENPAI!
@theholyavenger
@theholyavenger 7 жыл бұрын
Grimdark Vikings? Sign me up!
@wallhackergotdammit
@wallhackergotdammit 7 жыл бұрын
Fuck me I thought it was a DLC trailer at first glance
@kaak888
@kaak888 7 жыл бұрын
Hope that 1 of the legendary lords/lord has a quest that goes up againts the chaos overlords
@hanskelsen89
@hanskelsen89 7 жыл бұрын
Man, I really hope they're working in Dogs of War too. We need them
@Newt0rz
@Newt0rz 7 жыл бұрын
Víctor Lmg I can see them as a game 2 dlc pack. Since rogue armies are toying with the idea of having units from multiple races.
@trippfields279
@trippfields279 7 жыл бұрын
Víctor Lmg >Picks Skaven >Fields Brazangas Besiegers and Leopold's Leopards >initiate trollface
@ARescueToaster
@ARescueToaster 7 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how a Dogs of War faction would work. They aren't really a faction, and I don't think they own or fight for land. So they would basically be a mercenary system for all of the factions?
@hanskelsen89
@hanskelsen89 7 жыл бұрын
yes
@nossstrils1499
@nossstrils1499 7 жыл бұрын
It would be great if they add Surtha Ek as a legendary lord with a buff to chariots.
@Newt0rz
@Newt0rz 7 жыл бұрын
Nosstril Slaya Knowing CA they'll probably keep him in as an Easter egg. Maybe a rouge army with chariots from every race? 😂
@nossstrils1499
@nossstrils1499 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds good to me. The rogue army of pain and suffering. But they would probs keep him in charge of the Varg while you play as another Norscan Tribe.
@kellyweldon9054
@kellyweldon9054 7 жыл бұрын
Nosstril Slaya haha, as if I couldn't hate that bastard more! Nothing like surviving an epic battle with Chaos just to have that prick pop up out of nowhere and annihilate my survivors.
@nossstrils1499
@nossstrils1499 7 жыл бұрын
Gives you more reason to invade them
@Grounders10
@Grounders10 7 жыл бұрын
I already have issues with chariots. THE SKAELING BUILDING NOTHING BUT CHARIOTS! HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BURN DOWN A CITY WITH CHARIOTS! TELL ME! HOW! Their auto-resolve if fucking broken and the AI knows it.
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 7 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you never played Skyrim since you pronounced Jarl with a hard J :p
@indypride50
@indypride50 7 жыл бұрын
Haha correct I'm sure I mispronounced it
@cogglestechmec4845
@cogglestechmec4845 7 жыл бұрын
Due to us going to the new world and I have read the 8th army books do you think we might get The amazons as a sub race to play I read somewhat of lore. but I think it would give so more flavor to the new world. Now I'm a noob to Warhammer lore so I might be asking a dumb question but I just want to know your response to this. P.S love the vids big of total war keep up the good work
@Goraka91
@Goraka91 7 жыл бұрын
I think the main restriction is each army needs to have had actual tabletop armies. Amazons had one unit in a mercenary book and GW control their franchises fanatically so CA coming up with a new army is out of the question. Was surprised by Chaos Dwarfs though.
@Felcaster
@Felcaster 7 жыл бұрын
MilkandcookiesTW, I love your lore videos! Keep making them. In my best Elcor impersonation- "Friendly jab: how do you not know how to pronounce Jarl (yärl)? I thought Skyrim beat that term into our collective gamer conscious." Hope you do some DoW3 Annihilation videos soon too!
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
I have never played an Elder Scrolls game ;P Thank you very much, will do
@angrydude675
@angrydude675 7 жыл бұрын
love it thanks for the class oh great and wise teacher
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 7 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome :)
@mauroferrari5518
@mauroferrari5518 7 жыл бұрын
Well, for a caster Lord Vilitich the Curseling could also be a possibility.
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 7 жыл бұрын
I think maybe Norman's will have their settlements in Norsca, but not be able to settle anywhere else.
@SpikyDane
@SpikyDane 7 жыл бұрын
Oh God i hope they expand on norsca, maybe it'll be the freeLC race?
@Menselot
@Menselot 7 жыл бұрын
Norsca is going to be a settle faction not a horde because the game wants them to be different from warriors of chaos .
@bjornliljedahl2857
@bjornliljedahl2857 7 жыл бұрын
Great video :)
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