RISK: Warhammer 40k | How Did This ACTUALLY Get to Production?

[@BoardGameHackers]

I done goofed, 7 seconds into the video I call the Abaddon and the Chaos Space Marines and alien race. Mybad. Not an alien, just a little Chaos amongst friends.

[@theilluminati1365]

Eh, mutants, xenos, and heretics all burn the same under the Emperors Light

[@nobody8717]

Don't worry, they're all aliens to us Necrontyr.

[@HandsomeLongshanks]

The fact that you know the difference has lead me to call my local inquisitor. Have fun.

[@dididi3368]

so all the information is either wrong or doesn't make any sense... So accurate to warhammer 40k lore.

[@BoardGameHackers]

haha, amen.

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

Ah yes Abaddon the dispoiler my favorite alien

[@BoardGameHackers]

HAHA. I done goofed that up. good catch. haha

[@tinker1945]

I really don't get the need for AI images when Warhammer has 40 years worth of artwork that can be referenced. It just ends up leaving the 40k parts of these videos as just being window dressing.

[@horrido666]

It's all about $$$$.

[@BoardGameHackers]

Window Dressing, I like that, that is the exact feeling you get about the Warhammer side of this game while playing. To answer your question: legal rights. I only have rights to what is in the board game, showing pages from my Warhammer books, and what public domain images I can find online. AI images were deemed public domain in the USA, and are a legal grey area when it comes to copyrighted content. cheers

[@anexistanthuman2435]

@@BoardGameHackersLore KZbinrs have been using non-ai images for years, and they still get paid. There’s hundreds of fan pieces of art that would probably be fine to feature in your video if you credit the creator

[@brightestlight9462]

@@BoardGameHackers hundreds of youtube channels use actual warhammer artwork and still get paid lol, or use fan images. AI is really crummy

[@zubdub2506]

@@anexistanthuman2435 their actual videos are not monetized, though, which is how they get away with it. They make their money off of third-party sponsorships and Patreon contributions. Art ownership and distribution is still an issue with fan art, as using them in a monetized video does not fall under Fair Use, meaning he would have to get actual permission and pay those artists, not just credit them when using their artwork.

[@bigtastyben5119]

I feel like I need to get a neck brace; the editing feels like I was in a 20 car pile up

[@MrBrassporkchop]

They accurately depicted the 40k universe by creating a game in a constant state of retcon.

[@coarsesand]

This is like watching a morning radio DJ review a board game. Calm down and stop playing wacky sound effects on every transition.

[@tomekk.1889]

Yes adults are watching rhis not children so why are you catering to them

[@Carsf100]

Agreed, pretty over edited.

[@poppsen4145]

but where would I watch my morning radio DJ board game reviews then, my favourite non-geriatric genre of board game reviews?

[@jamesmaybrick2001]

@@Carsf100 I lasted 41 seconds. Shame, i was actually interested. Sadly, my having both gone through puberty decades ago and not having ADHD means i cannot continue.

[@CarbonBallas]

U guys suck.... This is so much better than most of the boring people in front of their shelf rambling.

[@aranami85]

I’m not surprised the instruction manual is a hot mess when you open the instruction manual for the minis and five different components all have the same number on them and none of them match the numbers on the sprue

[@cheynewillingham2107]

7:15 when you mention the dotted lines is when I decided never to play it. There is no gameplay but attack when it's impossible to hold a defensive line. I've played Risk and Risk variants for over two decades, and I feel the pain of trying to hold onto any territory in this game at 7:15.

[@BoardGameHackers]

Yes, this version is diffidently geared for aggression. Are you the guy that sits on Australia in the classic and just builds up? 😜

[@cheynewillingham2107]

@@BoardGameHackers No, I the damned fool that picks Europe every time.😄

[@torlekjpec5708]

​@BoardGameHackers my dad would do that 90%+ of the time.

[@berzerk3018]

Interesting insights into the game. The super jumpy editing is a bit much for my personal taste but good job :)

[@BoardGameHackers]

Always working on my skills, thanks for the feedback!

[@CBs_Bill_from_Montana]

@@BoardGameHackersdude I love you but the this guy is right. The jumpy editing makes it hard to follow. Please keep making videos though!

[@mellvins0059]

@@BoardGameHackersyeah tbh you had us with the content here, just wanna see you get into it, its a 20 min video, doesn’t need to be made like a tik tok

[@HansVonMannschaft]

I normally watch videos at 1.25 speed. It had to watch this one at 0.75.

[@almarcaUrban]

I definitely agree with the overall message of the video; company lazy, warhammer risk was lazy and leaves a lot to be desired. But it felt like this was needlessly nitpicky? like, for example, when going over the leader rules, you mention they're lifted from other games, but the combat system is already so incredibly simple and straightforward, coupled with the fact risk has a gazillion versions, I feel like that's definitely not a bad thing, no need to reinvent the wheel and all. Also please don't use AI art, like there's a billion much prettier pieces that exist for this IP.

[@BoardGameHackers]

Yes, this video will be the last including AI art, there has been a bunch negativity around it. I can agree not to reinvent the wheel, but my view is, when you're copy pasting from other spin offs to pump out another one. I feel that that crosses a line. Thanks for the feed back. Cheers

[@enjoythestruggle]

One of the cards has a different shadow? Goddamn it how dare they!

[@ronintheronin8035]

The absolute burst of mistakes in the manual that starts at 16:15 did it for me tbh.

[@PilotSun-rg9bh]

This was an incredibly enjoyable watch, well done!

[@BoardGameHackers]

Thank you muchly.

[@horrido666]

Might be a decent gateway game. What we need is a good hex-n-counter Warhammer wargame that doesn't focus on cosmetics. Those little 40k tin soldiers are expensive, and hard to store.

[@BoardGameHackers]

I'm a sucker for some good artwork but hex-n-counter Warhammer war game would be a great play!

[@DoctorEviloply]

Planetary Empires is what you're looking for.

[@vnyxnw]

I mean, there was Battle for Armageddon released in the 90s, and there is a PnP version somewhere on the internet...

[@stonehorsegaming]

Male one yourself easy to do when you get into it. Print out shrunken photos of the artwork, stick them on card or bots of wood. Grab a hex board, make some terrain tiles... then, just make the rules. Fun and rewarding.

[@patriarch7237]

That's Forbidden Stars. Sadly OOP now, but probably the best 40k themed game there has ever been.

[@DJJohnnyFi]

Why would I play risk in 40K? If I want to play 40K I’ll just play 40K.

[@KaneyoriHK]

The egregiousness makes me want to play it more. Idk something about a complete mess made it more interesting, I had no real interest prior, but now I wanna experience the garbage

[@BoardGameHackers]

yesss, haha we think the same.

[@SuperGameFan77]

While there are legitimate issues with this game I feel quite a lot of the negatives are nitpicking. The examples on the box, missed brackets, wrong "you"s, and the lore inaccurate map don't directly pose issues to gameplay and overall quality. Lore is held in far to high regard as a standard and infallible. Even GW blatantly ignores and rewrites it constantly.

[@PlasticraicGaming]

Got as Far as the factions buffs around 12:30 before getting to the "this ain't worth buying" stage.

[@t0k3p0k3]

I thought that the reward cards for attack rolls were one-use cards. That's how it reads from the rules and didn't make any sense that the card says "per roll". Now it makes a little more sense to me. Also deciphering those objective cards were a pain, it's like they're written from a lore standpoint and not for playability.

[@kirbaferb8567]

5:25 they literally had a map they could copy and paste and yet they scrambled it more than eggs.

[@sim00ps]

Risk 2210 still holds the crown as the best Risk variant. The split region territory is the only impressive thing here.

[@CBs_Bill_from_Montana]

How many GI Joe and North Africa A & A you order so far?

[@sharper68]

They should be paying you to vet this stuff before they release it. Nice break down!

[@daeamiralis]

It's ok to just talk about the board game without wacky sounds and zoom transitions every sentence

[@robertchmielecki2580]

Why would anyone play RIsk with so many absolutely cutting-edge area control board games on the market ? It's like wanting to play an interesting economy game and buying Monopoly...

[@BoardGameHackers]

haha, amen

[@Walican132]

What would you recommend?

[@robertchmielecki2580]

@@Walican132 I'd recommend browsing BGG with tags like "area control" or "4X". Personally I like Area Control games such as Age of Discovery, Chaos in the Old World, Blood Rage, Rising Sun, The Game of Thrones. There are titles more leaning towards 4X, like excellent Clash of Cultures or Forbidden Stars, which I love dearly. For just 2 players there are absolutely top games like Twilight Struggle or the War of the Ring or Star Wars:Rebellion. Imperial 2030 is a deceptively simple but an absolutely genius game with an excellent twist - players don't play as country leaders but as shadowy financiers who invest in all countries and goad them to war :) Can't recommend this one enough.

[@SolarGeneral]

Why do people still play chess?

[@robertchmielecki2580]

@@SolarGeneral Putting Risk next to chess like that is blasphemy. What's next? Snakes and Ladders compared to Go?

[@aiden7452]

This video is significantly more enjoyable at 0.75x speed, take that criticism as you will. Good points, decent editing, but I think you might be pushing the "go fast to entertain the Gen-alphas with no attention span" a bit too hard.

[@Darthvegeta8000]

Being a fan of Abaddon... I'll skip this unbalanced mess.

[@BoardGameHackers]

Just got his mini from the War of Beasts. It's fairly epic.!

[@mikelaaper9100]

2.40 mins in is where u decided this is not a game to buy. If the map on the board is wrong Not laid out correctly and cards do not have the correct names and images. Then nope! This was a fun video to watch

[@cthulhufhtagn2483]

A smug man edited like a cracked-out hummingbird pretending that tiny errors are catastrophic, intentional flaws For Content. Why did KZbin recommend me this?

[@adrianjones1493]

8:40 was my mind flip moment... neglecting info from the rulebook is frustrating. 17:20 had me busting my gut laughing, great work 19:25 what on earth are you drinking? Swamp water? With hickory sticks? To each their own I guess 😂

[@BoardGameHackers]

Agreed! Badly written rule books are the worst part of board gaming. It's watered down oat milk coffee that was re-microwaved 3 times... with hickory sticks. Get on board - you're not living properly 🙃 Glad to hear someone laughed during this video. Cheers!

[@Klotbeck]

The greatest deception was saying it would be released worldwide yet im still waiting for any game store in my area (sydney) to be able to even order in a copy. Not even the GW warehouse has recieved a copy as of yet.

[@HammerHeadCactus]

This is a kinda a weird video. I love board games and getting into the nitty gritty of mechanics, so the board game hacking sounds like perfect premise for me, but this felt more of a discussion about editing errors and lore mismatches (which feel pretty esoteric). Not really the most exciting or meaningful points main, especially when the conclusion just has an off hand that the game has some great mechnics but they've not been discussed. Ultimately, just sort of led me to search for a more rounded review of the game. I get the channel has more videos on risk warhammer but thats probably too much buy in, especially after a very one sided 20 minute vid.

[@almarcaUrban]

I felt the same watching this, you captured it pretty well. didn't feel like a genuine take and more like an algorithm-chaser.

[@BoardGameHackers]

ahh yes, you and I think the same. I did do a video exactly like this, it was long and technical. unfortunately youtube is not the place for it. I launched it, only got 700 views, a bunch of hate and banished from viewer discovery. I hope to grow the channel to a point where I can put out technical videos and for them to actually reach an audience. cheers

[@dwyane23]

I use a house rule where hero abilities are for the whole army and heros provide just +1 to highest attack and defense dice so Orks attacking with Warboss get brutal with a +2 to balance it you cannot win without a hero or your base and to make it even harder i tossed in some Risk: Legacy Do Not Open Ever cards into the game 😂

[@Rosemaryn-pg8rq]

Abaddons orange "Black Legion" is something 😂

[@MenschWerdeWesentlich]

Whishing upon a star? Brian Regan?

[@adrianjones1493]

I'm glad someone else noticed 😂

[@CarbonBallas]

LOVED this video! Fascinating breakdown! Can't wait to see your other videos. Side note: you act like my brain thinks! LOL - side side note: loved the lore commentary - side side side note: i want to be your friend. ❤❤❤😂

[@ScottSchlichter]

Nice video! I knew when this was announced that it was going to be lackluster.

[@Stalowy_Jeż]

That some high quality content and nice money saver, new sub

[@BoardGameHackers]

welcome, cheers!

[@TheDyslexicDragon]

Great video, thank you on saving making a big mistake in buying it without re editing the rules and updating the game cards. Shows how bad Hasbro has become with their games :(

[@BoardGameHackers]

Thank you! annnnd you might be right about Hasbro, what a shame.

[@Dartyus]

I own a copy of this and I thought the worst part of it was just that the leaders just have cardboard tokens and not unique models (even just cheap plastic ones)

[@peterixon8708]

But ... but ... but ... it's 40K ... isn't it? Great review. Thanks.

[@FeeNixBeech]

Yeah...Tabletop and Board games really don't mix. XD Welcome to Grimdark. XD

[@andgodsaiduntoabraham]

At first I thought he was just being nitpicky, but so many nits to pick kept coming up that they congealed into a warp-fueled mass and it's clear there was no editor involved in the creation of the game

[@imbigwes]

@8:32 is when I had my "nope, never happening" moment

[@fybso3057]

Really love the editing

[@Zerato]

Using ai with Warhammer is such a slap in the face of the lore it actually hurts

[@jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822]

I got this game recently

[@maxxon99]

Weird they messed up the map… I was thinking of getting the game to use as a campaign map… good thing I saw this video.

[@holden88]

The classic version speeds up the game by rewarding players with larger numbers of troops as the cards get cashed in. Eventually, someone will gain so many troops that they can go on a roll knocking off players and acquiring / cashing in more cards as they go. This is the "risk" of the game. If they run out steam and fail to conquer all, the next player to cash in will likely win. If the army rewards are static, then I fail to see how this could shorten the game or allow for underdogs to come back? It has been basic risk game theory for decades that increasing army rewards for cashing in cards shortens game length.

[@cjbrownusarmymil]

@boardgamehackers about 5:34 or so about the map in accuracies kind of dissuade me from playing this Risk. Im a risk fan but a bigger 40k.

[@donaldhavasy2356]

Risk legacy was much better. There were like 20 faction abilities to unlock and you ended up with very unique factions with several different advantages to try to leverage. I wouldn’t say it was balanced but if you had a group of 4 or 5 players you could more easily keep the more powerful factions in check

[@CBs_Bill_from_Montana]

Loved Legacy! Please do a video on it!

[@holden88]

Am I the only one that sees the Chaos Marine pieces as red and not orange? Maybe they are much more orange in person.

[@scritoph3368]

Abaddon’s unique ability is on point, given that he did thirteen Black Crusades that all failed… until GW decided to retcon it that they were actually all totally part of his plan and succeeded. He ‘rerolled his ones’ if you will.

[@ΌλγαΚατσογιάννη]

The editing is amazing

[@BoardGameHackers]

Much appreciated.

[@Akition]

Cool Video. I can see, alot of work put into it and i love the nitpicking. Could you maybe do other boardgames aswell, like Elysium (doesnt get enough love imo) or Spirit Island ?

[@jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822]

Have you seen or heard about stranger things risk coming out?

[@BoardGameHackers]

no, I will have to look out for that. oooooo I'm excited now.

[@jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822]

@@BoardGameHackers yeah i got get me a copy bet you hack the heck out of it

[@AmnioticlyTanked]

The production value of this video is freaking insane for a channel with only 3k subs. Awesome job

[@kertsicrusader140]

I guess the only reason a worhammer fan should buy this is for the gamepieces...

[@louloup2334]

I stop watching at 2:10 because you said you're using ai generated images

[@BoardGameHackers]

haha, ya others have said the same. moving forward I won't be using them. thanks for the feedback. Cheers

[@05insomnium]

I can tell there’s a lot of quality in this production but Jesus, might want to chill with all the quick cuts and effects between, along with sound effects. I understand the impact it’s trying to have but it’s distracting from the point you were trying to make. Ohhh you’re also a fan of AI-generated art. Yeah I’m out man.

[@BoardGameHackers]

Great feedback, I am always looking to make my vids better. I am discontinuing my AI use as many have said what you're saying. Cheers!

[@05insomnium]

@@BoardGameHackers Hey I came in a little hard. I actually thought your enthusiasm was really nice and engaging. You’re clearly skilled at video production and you have seriously high quality video and audio for a channel of your size. I know some are fine with AI-generated art, but until they can figure out how to credit and compensate artists whose work make up these learning libraries, it’s a big no-no for me personally. I’ll keep an eye out for more of your content my guy. Apologies again for coming in a little hard, I can tell you put a lot of love in. Good luck!

[@BoardGameHackers]

Thanks for the encouragement. Hope to see you again. Until next time.

[@tomasdawe9379]

Another failure... No imperial guard

[@ericb9804]

Buying it. Because I play board games with an 8 yo boy. thanks!

[@logickedmazimoon6001]

i cant listen with your voice cutting off the previous clip. Please leave some pauses in, its like reading something without punctuation.

[@erupendragon7376]

8:30 that’s when I gave up.

[@primozimo3041]

How the quality of the game minis

[@BoardGameHackers]

Decent, very tiny. I show them more in the other RISK: Warhammer 40k vids I have. Cheers.

[@BTTFF]

Got turned off at the leader abilities.

[@novi6521]

release the true map on tabletop simulator

[@WarframeCrunch]

I really don't understand why every cardboard game have to use dice rolls, which makes every game just RNG.... which is not tactical or anything like that. I would prefer a tactical game without dice rolls like chess. Imagine chess game with dice rolls if you success your attack or not xD

[@logickedmazimoon6001]

if it were done that way, then itd be bad lol. Reason why games with dice are fun is because those games give you options to alter the chances of you winning. It is tactical because your trying to get an advantage and minimize losses. Good dice games will allow you to keep your advantage even if you lose the dice roll. Risk has leaders running away as soon as they hit a certain number of units in one area.

[@mr.k7196]

I was turned off when you said combat was like the classic😅

[@nigelbotterill1936]

You clearly dont play warhammer. Interpreting rules and spelling errors is basically part of the game now. I have never spoken to anyone who has the same interpretation of the same rule, because the dont word anything well at all.

[@roguecarrick816]

compare with halo risk?

[@BoardGameHackers]

oooo that's an idea.

[@maximesimonnet8054]

One of the best scam from GW. Like said an old swedish group... Money money money.....

[@donaldhavasy2356]

Biggest issue, there are no necrons

[@BoardGameHackers]

hahhaha

[@gabiballetje]

I sure hope Risk isn't going too bad on this, not like Monopoly has, there's a Monopoly of every IP or so. Not that Risk is the best game ever, but it's a classic that's ok, where Monopoly is a steaming pile of crap, which is what it was designed to be, intentionally. This seems to be a single brainstorm session, one polish session to smooth out some ideas, a week of art, and voila. It'll sell, it's Risk and WH40K combined. Holy shit, they did a lot worse, cheap imnage editing, placing crap in places it makes no sense. They're not taking any of this seriously. At all. This seems a worse Risk, in every way, all stupid, some just completely unnecesary. Well, they kind of all are, but even the art etc. fucking up is just too lazy, but a rulebook this shit is just asinine. Jesus, it just keeps getting worse. The rules/abilities design, completely stupid. They thought out and tested absolutely NOTHING !?!?!? They can't even copy territory names... Holy shit, the number of figures and how many you might need... This is... how the fuck did this board game come out this way !?

[@alilaprice5913]

Stopped watching as soon as you said you used A.i images, warhammer has plenty of art you could of used.

[@jamesmaclennan4525]

Another Cynical money grab only this time both Evil Empires are involved (Hasbro and GW)

[@pst5345]

Unprecise wording? Thanks I pass. Cash in on the franchise nothing else.

[@nightfire734]

Very informative but could you not do coke before filming?

[@seankelly69]

Why cant you pronounce Vigilus properly? Vij-i-lus

[@BoardGameHackers]

hahahah. did I goof that up. hahah. my bad.

[@2dola]

7.04

[@BillWD]

What would you expect from GW these days other than total incompetence, corner cutting, disrespect for their own lore and a total lack of consideration for their customers? Good job their miniatures are nice, right? RIGHT? Ah you don't get any. Oh also, they need you to get another rule book? Haha. I'm actually a warhammer fan, I just can't stand GW.

[@WARSMITHAFROW]

40k views

[@dennisduigou5384]

Jim Carey called. He wants you to stop your shitty impression of him.

[@TheOuroboros84]

the editing is unbearable man... I had to turn it off, sorry. Cut down on the noises, it's very annoying.

[@boxfoxscoot1614]

ew ai

[@waferjuice]

Idk why u keep making risk warhammer content......

[@BoardGameHackers]

haha, that is the last video. still working on my video making skills. also playing with video content types, like this 'how did this actually make it to production' as an on going series with other games. next is Scythe. then the new Axis and Allies. cheers

[@FreakingLombax]

Probably cause he likes it, any other stupid questions?

[@FreakingLombax]

@@BoardGameHackers Do what you want dude, can't please everyone.

[@connorsucksatgames2263]

A board gsme review has no right to have editing this good

[@DarthNVious]

I don't think this can beat Risk Halo Legendary Edition; and that is not even mostly ignored on BGG. I like the Starcraft and Metal Gear for their IP representation. So far best Risk versions, playability wise, are still the Risk 2210AD and Risk Europe. You could also say the same for Star Wars Edition Black; though that one is more Queen's Gambit than actual Risk. Best Warhammer board game so far: Forbidden Stars. *board game, not tabletop war game

[@BoardGameHackers]

forbidden stars eh? I'll have to hunt that one down. ya, 2210AD is hard to beat and Europe has an interesting taxing and spending system. I have Risk Halo, but I haven't played it yet. Should get it on my roster. Cheers

[@DarthNVious]

@@BoardGameHackers Forbidden Stars = Out of Print Note: Risk Halo and Risk Halo Legendary are two different games.

[@BoardGameHackers]

I have a Risk Halo that says 'Legendary included'. I didn't know they made them separate! I'll keep my eye out for Forbidden Stars at flee markets. Thanks