11 NFL Expansion Franchises You Didn’t Know ALMOST Happened

[@overbanked]

Sea Lions sound better for hockey than football.

[@chrisbacos]

That logo looks very similar to that of the now defunct NHL franchise the Oakland (later California) Golden Seals.

[@fastpony8127]

Isn't Seattle supposedly getting an NHL team?

[@chrisbacos]

@@fastpony8127 yes

[@overbanked]

@@fastpony8127 Yup, in the 2021-2022 season. A name still hasn't been announced.

[@fastpony8127]

@@overbanked and chrisbacos Oh, ok. Thought I had heard about it. Thanks, guys!

[@michaelcanney7218]

Hope the NFL expands to Detroit someday

[@twinkietube5451]

I don't get it

[@michaelcanney7218]

@@twinkietube5451 Detroit needs an nfl team, whats not to get?

[@whosaidthat84]

I'm so sorry...... Jk, I'm a Packers fan 😂😂

[@twinkietube5451]

@@michaelcanney7218 detroit lions yeah they're bad but that's what makes being a lions fan fun

[@travisstowe485]

Draft day is the only thing that makes being a Lions fan fun...

[@twirlypenpsn4771]

I can't wait for the London Sillynannies

[@rogregg29445]

Twirlypen PSN yes!!!

[@daviddyer3076]

Or the London Rippers

[@Lolpy.]

Twirlypen PSN Having a team in London is retarded. It’s market for American Football is below average, plus they would have a stupid home advantage, and a giant road disadvantage. Which essentials damns them to mediocrity unless they have a complete All-Star like team made up of several pro-bowlers. The people of London are practically guaranteed not to care either, why would they? They always have a sport to follow with soccer (fùtbal) and the only real person that world actually care is Roger Goodell.

[@SarahKayeRen]

@Bace That would be like if there were a football team called the Brentwood OJs.

[@daleholbert3111]

red coats

[@tiddiesattic]

Every year there are rumors of an NFL team in Cleveland.. but I still haven't seen it 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@nickwhite6861]

Maybe someday they will come back from Baltimore and we can have a contender in Cleveland again

[@tiddiesattic]

@@nickwhite6861 nope..they'd find a way to turn that to "Brown"(💩)too! Like having Paul Brown AND Bill Belichick as HC, Denver Championship games, RR88, the "headstart" of an expansion franchise, etc

[@pts5217]

tiDDies aTTic most snakebit team in the league. Cleveland is the only NFL city to never play in or host the Super Bowl

[@jimkirk8229]

Nice name

[@erikseiber6273]

8-3

[@marcusvachon845]

Walter Payton was a member of the ownership group that was trying to get the St. Louis Stallions into the NFL. After it fell apart the Denver Broncos changed their logo from a horse's head to a running horse. Payton accused the Broncos of stealing his group's logo. Now that I have seen the Stallions logo, I have to agree with him.

[@randallbanks1589]

I loathe the new logo and uniforms of the Broncos. The old ones were so unique that you could see them coming from a long way a way. Now it's just a bland mish mash of colors.

[@dodo1opps]

When Jacksonville got the franchise over St Louis, I saw a shirt with a dead horse on it's back with it's legs in the air underneath the Arch.

[@joemckim1183]

@@randallbanks1589 Now that the Broncos have gone back to wearing orange jerseys they're not so terrible, but when they had the new design and dark blue jerseys they didn't look that good.

[@andrewbishop4447]

The broncos logo looks way better Solid design The old blue and orange looked ugly and dated like the old buccaneers colors

[@matthewrosenthal753]

 The old Broncos uniforms are nowhere near as bad as the Creamsicle Buccaneer’s uniform. The creamsicles were an insult to the NFL, athletes, and all good taste.

[@terrencebradford4274]

Crazy thing is when the deal for the expansion team in St. Louis fell thru, no one really knew what the team would have been called. I had a friend who work at a local sports merchandising company which had the contract for the Stallion apparel. When things didn't work out they were told to destroy all of the merch by the NFL. Of course, that didn't happen. And on rare occasions to this day, you'll see a random St. Louis Stallions jersey, t-shirt or ballcap.

[@ooammo632]

yeahhhhh right fake news

[@terrencebradford4274]

Hand to God. Absolutely true.

[@corey2232]

@@ooammo632 Why would that be fake? Also, it's not "news," it's just information.

[@joemckim1183]

As a St. Louis native the Stallions jerseys have always looked kind of amateurish and ugly. I would hope if we got the team after a few years they would've upgraded them a bit.

[@harrisb5506]

I found a Stallions hat at a Savers back in 2016. Bought it for $3.

[@jaylouis8227]

I grew up in the St. Louis metropolitan area and I remember the push for the Stallions. They had t-shirts and everything. The feeling at that time was that we were definitely gonna get an expansion team. Of course we all know how that turned out.

[@Rockhound6165]

You can still get Stallions merchandize.

[@kandykorn1711]

Arizona Fire Birds logo is fire 🔥 no pun intended

[@kingmo8789]

The Current Arizona Team should change their name to that.

[@robfreedman6496]

@@kingmo8789 that's not going to happen since Cardinals is a historic name and this organization has been called the Cardinals since the 1920s!

[@nortonhatfield7312]

Well they could change the name to the fire birds and give the name cardinals back to st Louis. This would be similar to the name change with the new Orleans basketball team. They used to be the Hornets but now they are the pelicans due to the name Hornets returning to Charlotte.

[@phoenixgamer3480]

@@robfreedman6496 Just like the Lakers should change their name considering that there are not too many lakes in Los Angeles, but that also will never happen.

[@pts5217]

PhoenixGamer34 Or how Utah isnt known as a hotbed for Jazz. Could be the dumbest non-name change for a relocated franchise

[@LolaCrazy2221]

San Antonio deserves a NFL francise. They have been trying to get one for years. They can't get one as long as Cowboys owner Jerry Jhones will block it. Because he's on the committee. Personally I think he's afraid the Cowboys will lose fans if San Antonio has a NFL team. It's crazy because since football is big in Texas it can defeantely support a third NFL team.

[@jasonrandom372]

San Antonio has also been trying to get an MLB franchise for years to come as well. But it obviously won't happen till they obtain an NFL franchise.

[@MeetTheSLAYER]

They are getting an XFL team.

[@markiebrummett559]

came close w/ those gunslingers

[@stephaniestavropoulos1639]

I agree. Texas has been supporting 3 NBA teams lo these many years. Why not a 3rd NFL team? Oh sorry, forgot. God of the football universe Jerry Jones probably wouldn't allow it. I'm surprised he allows the Texans to coexist in the same state as his precious Cowboys.

[@dangeloriley2797]

LolaCrazy2221 yea the Cowboys will lose a lot of fans if San Antonio get a team all those people in South Texas will be focus on that team.

[@willmack5909]

I imagine the Detroit Lions would have balked at a Seattle team with "Lions" in their name too.

[@timothyfrantz9443]

Maybe someday Detroit will have an NFL team !

[@joemckim1183]

Possibly why the Seahawks name was ultimately chosen and its a better name anyways.

[@joncates9003]

I got done watching this and a realization just suddenly hit me: This has to be one of my Top 3 favorite KZbin channels! VERY well done and informative, as always! :)

[@geminijets33]

You should do NFL Relocations that almost happened

[@robfreedman6496]

That'd be an awesome one!

[@Grandizer8989]

Pats almost went to St Louis and then Hartford.

[@ericapp17]

Eagles almost went to Arizona a year or so before the Cardinals did.

[@feministlover3337]

I like

[@kevinmartz3082]

Geminijets33 The video would be 2 hours long.

[@racman7661]

“Supposedly left to join up with Uncle Sam.” Seems like a very odd statement to make.

[@ColeKeleher]

AMEN

[@boristheamerican2938]

Isolationism was high in WW1, people were still upset about how the republicans manufactured us into the Spanish American war.

[@christopherrobinmarriott7218]

Haha so where did all those guys go if they didn't "supposedly" go fight in WW1?!... maybe they ALL just hung out in a warehouse on the shores of Lake erie till it was cool they could all play football again?!

[@JohnLee-ue6gy]

Additional bit of trivia about the St. Louis Stallions effort, one the partners in the ownership effort to bring them to St. Louis was Walter Payton.

[@vinylpenguin2651]

I was going to mention the Stallions. Back then I even had a shirt and hat when they doing merch.

[@UltimateDragon709]

I remember hearing about the St Louis Stallions when Walter Payton died. But idk there was a movement behind it, I always thought that was just Payton's idea. Also it seems kinda odd they'd have the same colors as Minnesota.

[@BrennanKrause]

What people don't realize is for the playoffs and divisions to be balanced they'd have to add 8 teams

[@ericellis1481]

I believe the Stallions and will be one of the teams in the XFL

[@scottbilger9294]

The NFL for years had divisions with different numbers of teams.

[@pat834]

Rich Affinito then they would need to add 4. 6*6=36

[@SarahKayeRen]

@@scottbilger9294 Yes and it sucked.

[@kentfreeman8674]

BK Playz hell the more the merrier

[@Ese96Agboaye]

Half of these team names sound like AAF/old XFL teams names

[@dmichael1172]

Even one of the uniforms in the pics said xfl.

[@sportstrap4285]

If the nfl expands they can NOT go to London, its to much of a scheduling and logistics nightmare, they should only do either Mexico City or Toronto

[@TheKardiacKid]

The English rugby league Super League has a team in Toronto that seems to work without much of a problem. If a league that has a fraction of the cash can successfully operate a transatlantic team, then the NFL can more than easily do the same.

[@martyklestadt6766]

I think it would be better if the NFL just increased the number of games in London to eight every season. Although London wouldn't have their own team per se, they would get eight home games just like the NFL teams. That way the travel inconveniences for the NFL teams wouldn't be as severe.

[@EssexAggiegrad2011]

@@TheKardiacKid No

[@imsquidward5187]

TheKardiacKid but the nfl would have to have west coast teams play against London and that time change would be hell

[@fullervisiondotnet]

Toronto doesn't want football. Honestly, I think that I'd go to Montreal before Toronto. It's not an easy call since Montreal has had its own issues with supporting football, but Toronto had its chance to support NFL football with the Bills series and didn't. Their attendance is at the bottom of the CFL. But Montreal has a stadium that, with some modernization, could easily handle the NFL, and they seem to like football better. Bring back the Montreal Machine!

[@donaldlongii4392]

Hey SD should get an expansion team and give the Chargerz back to ‘3m!

[@aaronluna4779]

Tha k you my son, for giving my city some love

[@willp.8120]

San Diego got screwed, like Atlanta in the NHL. The Chargers should move back to San Diego.

[@QuentinDude]

@@willp.8120 No they didn't. If you don't get good attendance for games and you don't build new stadiums you don't get to keep your team. Thats life.

[@angelopadrefan301]

@@QuentinDude the chargers in SD before the moving rumors had some of the best attendance in the league. Also what stadium was build for the chargers in LA sofi isn’t theirs. The chargers were given the mission valley site dean refused he wanted something that would fail also its owners responsibility not the taxpayers

[@johnnymason2460]

Memphis would be a perfect city to expand to! Imagine the rivalry with the Tennessee Titans! At least it would be a city that doesn't already have an NFL team!

[@MollyMarshallMarketing]

Yes Johnny Mason

[@liamwalton3469]

Memphis would be good San Diego too since the chargers left to LA

[@johnnymason2460]

@@liamwalton3469 San Diego deserves an NFL team if they can get a new stadium built. I would be for that.

[@liamwalton3469]

@@johnnymason2460 what happened to the stadium that the Chargers used before they moved to LA? St Louis is a good option as well

[@johnnymason2460]

@@liamwalton3469 That stadium is out of date. That's why the Chargers left in the first place. You have to upgrade in order to stay competitive.

[@dw7704]

The 1948 Calgary Stampeders also had a perfect season. The only Canadian professional football team to do so, capping that off with a Grey Cup victory (and as the Grey Cup & CFL are mentioned this fits the video)

[@freddylubin]

Thank you for giving credit to Big Mama.

[@chrisconley8583]

Elvis wasn’t a Memphis native. He was born in Tupelo Mississippi.

[@overbanked]

He was only 13 years old when he left Tupelo. You can say "a star wasn't born in the city that they are most associated with" for just about anyone. Kanye West born in Atlanta, Eminem born in St Joseph, MO etc etc

[@chrisconley8583]

overbanked your first sentence proves my point. Your second sentence is words that the producer of this video and I myself never used. Both of us (the video at roughly 9:49) use the word “native”. Elvis was not a “native” of Memphis if he was born in Tupelo. In every celebrity you use a city afterwards they are all “natives” to the that city link them with (one of which you mentioned, I live in now and not a “native” of). Listen again, the word is “native” neither us use any other word that you assert that we did.

[@overbanked]

@@chrisconley8583 So your insination is that just because Elvis isn't a native of Memphis, they shouldn't have named the 'would be' Memphis team after an Elvis theme?

[@chrisconley8583]

overbanked I’m stating, and have been stating that he’s not a “native” as the guy in the video claims. You are inventing words and now thoughts that both the producer of this video and myself never used.

[@overbanked]

@@chrisconley8583 9:46 My bad, I see what you were responding to. Sorry about that.

[@blumbo500]

I kinda hate being early I dont get to read the funny comments

[@jessebakken3649]

But being early is the chance for You to make a funny comment.

[@djr1829]

After you comment you can’t comeback later and read comments? Strange

[@Dragon-Believer]

NFL teams that almost were: The Buffalo Bills.

[@joshheter1517]

The plan was not for the STL expansion team to play in Busch Stadium. The dome in St. Louis was being built during the expansion process in hopes of landing a team.

[@timlangston4090]

Good call out

[@taylorcrouse668]

StL i just fine without an NFL team.

[@davidparada1307]

I remember that the dome was called the TWA Dome.

[@enlightenedwarrior7119]

Bush stadium only allows females in

[@Gage_Brumley]

St Louis should have waited a few years and built the Dome once it was confirmed they would get an expansion team. That outdated dome is a big reason why we lost the Rams

[@bustersmith7535]

Worked in the NFL offices for many years, here's some more for you. Los Angeles Knights, Law Vegas Magic, South Carolina Uprise, San Juan Zeprys, Boston Irish, Toronto Tigers, Montreal Howlers, Oklahoma Wildcats , Richmond Hornets, Alabama Quest, Mexico City Jaguars, Lincoln Yellowjackets, Washington Americans, New York Guardians Western New York Nationals, Dallas Longhorns,

[@fletchbg]

Lil bow wow movie basketball team, made up, made up, fantasy baseball team, ethnic group, 60s Midwest Football League team, made up, prep school, youth baseball team, made up, AXIS video game football team, S.Carolina high school (NOT the girls soccer cannibals), alternate history football team, XFL 2020 team, VERY made up, flag football team

[@dale6613]

Thank you for mentioning the Youngstown Patricians have been looking for information on them.

[@r00dfr00t]

imagine in some bizarre alternate reality where the seattle sea lions ran the ball at the 1 yard line and got stopped

[@david24680dw]

r00dfr00t yea Larshawn Mynch and Wussel Rilson’s legacies would look a lot different lol

[@Rockhound6165]

There's no way a team called Sea Lions would have been allowed. I'm quite sure the Detroit Lions would have a say in that.

[@tjpierstorff4846]

As a Seahawks fan, I can't imagine wearing gear with Sea Lions on it

[@bw-leftturnracing7779]

Especially when the Lions exist

[@WesXvlog]

The Seahawks dragons 🐉

[@briannelson6830]

Yeah the chicken head is totally cooler 🙄

[@aarongroner5095]

Youngstown could’ve been just like Green Bay... small town with a good team. It’s sad that it didn’t play out

[@UserName-ts3sp]

probably wouldn’t have lasted... that or one of pittsburgh/cleveland wouldn’t have teams

[@Coldfanspider24]

A team in a city with the highest murder rate.. Don't sound good to me.

[@DefendYoungstown]

@@Coldfanspider24 team went away before the 1920s even started. That murder rate rep didn't happen yet.

[@evile3555]

No

[@JohnButlerFEF]

Should have been called the Youngstown Tuneups

[@bb95969]

the story of how the Atlanta Falcons came about is interesting too. Both the NFL and AFL were actually in competition about which league would get Atlanta. Basically, the NFL kept turning down interested Atlanta parties in the 60's so the ATL turned to the AFL. the NFL got wind of it and changed their tune. Several teams wanted to move to ATL including The Broncos, Chiefs, and Cardinals and Chargers but couldn't for many reasons. After wine and dine, the mayor of Atlanta chose the NFL and Rankin Smith became the owner after a 9million dollar franchise fee.

[@bemore1134]

I believe there was dual AFL-NFL interest in New Orleans at the time, too. The AFL all-star game was scheduled to be played in New Orleans but had to be moved due to discrimination towards some of the black AFL players.

[@ricks.1779]

You need to find a way to awkwardly wedge even more ads into these videos. 4 ads for a 12 minute video isn't enough.

[@derpmcgerp8062]

Number 7: The Los Ange- *we live with AT&T and we are WEEEEELLL passed the honeymoon phase*

[@phraze410]

He literally didn’t breathe the whole segment. I was trying to catch it all. I had a teacher like that and afterwards he would say, “ok books under your chairs it’s time for a quiz.”

[@KeeperKen30]

The CFL Baltimore Stations never folded. The Montreal Alloettes had folded a few years earlier. The Stallions franchise moved to Montreal and assumed the priors name and history. Much like the old Browns would have been the new Colts had Irsay not kept the Colts name.

[@poopstain5216]

Nobody cares about Canadian football

[@petetobey3933]

Actually the CFL's Baltimore Stallions didn't fold after 1995 -- they moved to Montreal as the reborn Alouettes, so that franchise lives on.

[@eighthave]

That team also had 5 names in that short time: Baltimore Colts, Baltimore CFL Colts, Baltimore CFLs, Baltimore Football Club and Baltimore Stallions.

[@LoneCourier2281]

The Alouettes don’t consider the Stallions history to be theirs. So in essence the team “folded” that history died with the Stallions.

[@marcpower4167]

@@eighthave owner Jim Speros announced they'd be the Baltimore CFL colts, but the NFL successfully filed an injunction against that 2 weeks before the season began. So really they played that first season without an official team nickname. After losing the appeal, they were officially re-named the Baltimore Stallions. They actually did really well, won the grey cup, had huge attendance numbers....until the NFL came back to Baltimore in 1996 then the CFL "wasn't needed" anymore. There was a proposal for them to move to Houston in 1996. But instead the CFL decided the U.S. expansion wasn't working and bailed on it. Speros accepted a proposal by the league to revive the Montreal Alouettes and he accepted.

[@aaronholcomb237]

I facetiously called them "The Horses With No Name".

[@kjorlaug1]

In regards to Memphis: saying "Tennessee finally got their team in 1996..." totally ignores reality. Nashville got a team. Memphis doesn't support the Titans. Drive around Memphis during the NFL season and you don't see a bunch of Titans ads and merchandise. Memphis got hosed twice and has never forgotten it.

[@donpowlen]

Yes, I was thinking of the same thing. Instead of expanding into foreign markets, why not plug some more holes the NFL has here in the US (like Memphis, San Diego, St. Louis, San Antonio, Portland etc.)?

[@kylewilliamson860]

And what was Memphis’ team name? I tell you what, being a Larry Csonka fan, I think they HAD a very good chance @ having a team when their USFL team some how won the football lottery & picked up the 3 former Miami Dolphins players back in the late ‘70’s-“ - ‘80’s!!!

[@joemckim1183]

@@kylewilliamson860 Its really silly that the NFL fans in Memphis are still upset to not being able to support a team in the same state. If they were smart and supported the Titans they could probably get 1-2 games a season played in Memphis or at least a preseason game. After the Rams left St. Louis I instead started to support the Chiefs, which were my #2 team when the Rams were here.

[@willp.8120]

@@kylewilliamson860 During the 1995 expansion that Carolina and Jacksonville were chosen, Memphis was in contention with a team they'd have called the Hound Dogs.

[@dominoeffexx4416]

For the 1st year of the Houston Oilers moving to Tennessee, they moved to Memphis then a year or 2 later moved to Nashville.

[@TheRecordSaver]

9:45 correction: Elvis was a Tupelo, Mississippi native.. He moved to Memphis with his family when he was 13.

[@rashaadjorden1187]

I was about to say the same thing.

[@neilefc877]

As a European, this is something I simply cannot comprehend: You share a city with a team you love and they leave... I cannot imagine this model ever being implemented in our football (soccer to you, dear reader lol). It does seem however that the bigger franchises are fairly safe. The Cowboys for example wont ever leave Texas.

[@MdrnNINJA]

Nicky Styles except that the Packers are located in the smallest city in the NFL, but they’ll never leave Wisconsin. There are also only 32 teams that are spread out across all of the US, so if your state doesn’t have a team, you typically find the team you’re closest to and stick with it, even if it’s based a couple hundred miles away.

[@ahc1230]

Firebirds, Hound Dogs, and Sea Lions would be pretty cool, not gunna lie

[@fromthehaven94]

The Cardinals should be called the Firebirds.

[@oscarf.1309]

@@fromthehaven94Makes sense

[@richardgomes8112]

Don’t like any of them. Only one that’s appealing is the stallions. St. Louis and Portland deserve a team honestly

[@AutismSingsHD]

The City of Cleveland did not wait over a decade to get the Browns back. They only waited 3 years.

[@tseeks]

It was Baltimore that waited ten years, not Cleveland.

[@daleholbert3111]

three years seems like 20 years in Cleveland

[@LeathafaceTV]

Cleveland still waiting lol

[@pts5217]

Jonathan Simmons Damn. Beat me to it

[@rwboa22]

In the meantime, since 1999 when operations resumed in Cleveland under new ownership, the Baltimore Ravens have won two Super Bowls (2000, 2012). Then again, since 1984, the Indianapolis Colts have won only one Super Bowl (2006) and the City of Baltimore has ownership of the Lombardi Trophy won by the old Baltimore Colts in 1970.

[@bonusbaby801]

Way to mention the little known fact that Big Mama Thorton recorded "Hound Dog" 1st.

[@williama.3652]

Not surprised because I've heard Elvis never wrote any of the songs he sang , that's what iv heard.

[@Tubeite]

Reminds me of the two joke name custom teams I made in Madden 2005. I had the Seattle Seahorses and Green Bay Alpacas. Also since they added the scowl on the Cardinals logo, I like to call them the Arizona Angry Birds.

[@guiitarfreak_]

I had the Bikini Bottom BadBoys

[@lynngatrell7965]

Elvis Presley did live (and eventually die) in Memphis, yes, but he was actually born in Mississippi.

[@mr.cardguy7635]

I keep hearing Houston will finally get a NFL team to replace the old Oilers and 25 years later we still waiting.

[@alexriofta7846]

Great vid!!

[@louisbologna4089]

Portland Oregon, Toronto, San Antonio, Vancouver, Oklahoma City, Montreal, St Louis, and Memphis would be my 8 teams I would add, if each division got 1 extra team. Rivalries could include Toronto and Buffalo, Memphis and Tennessee, Vancouver and Seattle, or Portland, Oklahoma City and Dallas, San Antonio and Houston, there all sorts of combination of rivals that could be. I'm only doing this because I keep hearing how the shield wants to move to 40 teams. Personally I think 32 is the right amount of teams and 40 would be overkill, but if they insist on going 40 well then these are who I like.

[@scottbilger9294]

Tennessee just got one franchise. Do you think they can support two?

[@JamesCook-tj2fq]

There will never be a NFL team in a Canadian city with a CFL team

[@connorjordan3551]

Maybe 2 of these cites can support a team. Zero in Canada. St. Louis for sure. Maybe Portland. Memphis and Oak City could possibly work as well.

[@josiahpeters9409]

Louis Bologna what bout Louisville?

[@erichelzer9083]

Wichita kansas

[@stevep8445]

You can thank The Jacksons terrible "Victory Tour" for the reason that New England is still there and not in St. Louis. Chuck Sullivan, son of Pats Owner Billy, backed the tour which was a financial disaster. Some reports said Sullivan's losses where equal to his net worth. He put up Foxboro Stadium as financing for the tour. The team and the stadium would eventually have to be sold, eventually to Victor Kiam. A few years later team was sold to James Orthwein. The stadium fell into Bankruptcy and Kraft purchased it. Not allowing Orthwein to break the lease, he would use the stadium as leverage to but the Pats.

[@myronbedner5163]

The St. Louis Stallions would of had nice looking uniforms.

[@corey2232]

Would've looked weird playing against the Vikings though.

[@FM-ig3th]

The Horse Head Logo was co-opted by the Broncos, after the Stallions were not selected..fun fact.

[@Sargebri]

Los Angeles almost got an expansion franchise in 1998. After the Rams and Raiders left for St. Louis and Oakland respectively, there were plans by two groups to get here in Los Angeles to get an expansion franchise One group was led by RD Hubbard, who intended to build a new stadium just off the San Diego Freeway (I-405) that was in a lot of ways very similar to the plans for SoFi stadium in Inglewood. The other group was the Coliseum Commission who wanted to bring an NFL franchise back to t a renovated Coliseum, which the NFL was very much against at the time. Unfortunately, the league went with Houston as the next expansion franchise and it would be at least another 15 years before the Rams announced they were moving back and that they would be building their own stadium.

[@big8dog887]

10:37 Wrong Busch Stadium

[@eriktabers4259]

Also St. Louis was already building the dome when they were trying to get the Stallions, they would of only used Busch for one season. What made St. Louis mad was that the NFL gave Jacksonville the team even though they did not even have a stadium yet. Bidwell persuaded the NFL to not give a team to STL.

[@kurttoy5035]

I'd like to see a similar piece on Major League Baseball expansion franchises that almost came into being.

[@scottklein9760]

Seattle fans wanted the Seattle Sockeye's named after a type of salmon but the NFL didn't like it. Growing up in Seattle I don't remember the Sea Loins but I am sure it was one of the names. When they picked Seahawks people were scratching their heads. What is a Seahawk. Later the fan were told what a Seahawk is, a bird. I still like Sockeyes better...

[@tygrkhat4087]

I have always heard the the proposed Seattle expansion team was the Kings, never the SeaLions.

[@charliesarver]

I want sockeye's to be our hockey name

[@youshouldsuicide]

@@charliesarver noooo

[@GLee-oe3op]

I’m a sucker for bird teams so I like seahawk

[@charliesarver]

@@youshouldsuicide why what do you want it to be

[@bengie_g886]

First also.., how do you guys come up with such good videos. Anyways thanks

[@CHRISPYakaKON]

I would personally like to see an international expansion team in Mexico and Canada

[@kimyona9746]

Ciudad de Mexico Pulpos? Idk hard to to think of something tbh. (Pulpo is Octopi)

[@markmaish7173]

Mexico City Narcos would be Badass!

[@kimyona9746]

@@markmaish7173 Or even Mexico City Jaguars

[@TheLegozgaming]

@@kimyona9746 there’s already the Jacksonville Jaguars

[@kimyona9746]

@@TheLegozgaming they deserve to be moved

[@josephalvarado7290]

San Antonio deserves a NFL team.

[@barryrogoff6764]

Before they had a stadium of their own, the Boston Patriots played home games in Birmingham, AL, San Diego, and several Boston-area locations. In January, 1970, owner Billy Sullivan threatened to move the team to Birmingham unless a stadium became available by March. The Boston Patriots renamed themselves the New England Patriots and played the 1971 season at the newly-built Shaeffer Stadium in Foxboro, MA. There is still a team called the Patriots in the Birmingham Unified Youth Football Organization.

[@davidlafleche1142]

Billy Sullivan had his faults...but it took a lot of guts to keep the Patriots in Massachusetts. Birmingham knew about the Fenway Park situation (that was 1968). They offered Sullivan a brand-new, football-only stadium. Sullivan said, "No." (He did not "threaten" to move to Birmingham. He only went there because of a scheduling conflict with the Red Sox.) Sullivan somehow managed to scrape his pennies together, and build the CHEAPEST permanent stadium ever: only $7 million. It had it's problems, but did have the best sightlines in the NFL. Every seat had a perfect view. Best of all, Sullivan paid for it himself. To this day, Boston is the only city in the U.S. in which all sports facilities are 100% privately financed.

[@barryrogoff6764]

@@davidlafleche1142 That's not how the Boston-area sports media reported it. Billy used the threat of taking the team to Birmingham in an attempt to get funding from the state but the best politicians money could buy didn't care about pro football. What actually kept the Patriots from moving was the donation of the land on which to build Schaeffer Stadium by the owners of Bay State Raceway, the "trotter" track on the adjacent land. I went to many games and concerts at what was later called Sullivan Stadium. Once they got the plumbing working it was great, as long as you remembered to bring a seat cushion. The traffic was so bad that getting there, getting parked, watching a game, and getting home again was an all-day project. I miss those overcooked but delicious sausage subs they sold along Route 1.

[@CatholicTraditional]

@@barryrogoff6764 My dad said he went to a couple of games there, and he almost got killed in the men’s room; only 2 sets of bathrooms under the bleachers of each 50 yd. line. The $7m facility was just a glorified high school stadium that they’d build in Texas today. All metal bleachers except those near the 50 yd. line. Also, there was talk around that time of putting the Pats in NH, but it never materialized. The Bruins and Celtics would’ve built a new Garden in Salem, NH if the town’s voters didn’t reject the issuance of bonds in 1983.

[@ev14304]

5:01 " sorry bud" The best moment of this video !!!!!!

[@efilwv1635]

Damn....a couple months ago I was thinking that a team called the Phoenix Firebirds (because that is what a Phoenix is in mythology) would be awesome. Didn’t know this almost happened.

[@rwboa22]

It could still be a reality. Remember, the original Charlotte Hornets moved to NOLA and became the New Orleans Hornets. A group of businessmen (including Michael Jordan) gets an expansion NBA team to Charlotte (Bobcats). Years later, including a stint in Oklahoma City (in the wake of Hurricane Katrina), the NOLA team becomes the New Orleans Pelicans and Michael Jordan gets the Hornets name and pre-NOLA history back; the Pelicans owning the NOLA/OKC history. As a "bonus", OKC now has the former SuperSonics (OKC Thunder). If the NBA brings a team back to Seattle, then either the SuperSonics or the Sea Lions would be appropriate. Thus the possibility that St. Louis can get an expansion team, and later the Arizona Cardinals can change owners and become the Arizona Firebirds -- the expansion St. Louis franchise becoming the Cardinals again.

[@jaredeiff7220]

The Phoenix Firebirds was the name of the minor league baseball team that played in Phoenix for many years. It's a cool name but very repetitive and not very creative kind of like the Houston Texans which they had used before and Dallas had used twice once in 1952 that eventually became the original Baltimore Colts and in 1960 as one of the original AFL teams which later became the Kansas City Chiefs.

[@rwboa22]

@@jaredeiff7220, much like the New York Islanders was originally was going to be called the Long Island Ducks after a minor league hockey team that played in Nassau County before the NHL team was enfranchised. Even the Philadelphia Flyers would have been called the Philadelphia Quakers (which was a NHL team before folding due to the Great Depression), but Ed Snider only used the old Quakers colors (orange, black, and white). And besides, several pro teams had Quakers nicknames along with the University of Pennsylvania.

[@kevinjabroni1554]

Great video brah! Good to see lowly little Youngstown getting some recognition.

[@666Brago]

The NFL can expand into Mexico and London but Since US based CFL teams didn't really work, I got a feeling Canada-based NFL teams will not work either.

[@JakeBoothh]

Nikko Doan no they would

[@DavidBrown-wm1xz]

Bruh why would an American go see a worse version of their most popular sport? Why wouldn’t a Canadian go see a better version of their sport?

[@666Brago]

@@DavidBrown-wm1xz To be honest, I actually prefer the CFL over the NFL.

[@johnpat3622]

I think an NFL team would do very well in Toronto, just as their NBA and MLB teams have...the only question is what impact would have on the CFL. My suggestion might be to move the CFL season to spring.

[@rileyholden2480]

@holykuhrap nope because the cfl plays in the spring and summer not fall and winter

[@markforster6457]

12:00 - The B-26 had two engines. The bomber featured in the logo had four engines. The B-26 had a small wing area. Pilots called it the "Baltimore Whore" because it had "no visible means of support".

[@matthewmccann7108]

Omaha, NE metropolitan area has about 1 million plus people. They deserve an NFL team. Prove me wrong.

[@AJ42K]

Thank you! I live in Omaha.

[@willp.8120]

It is time for untapped markets to get some type of team. Austin, Norfolk, Louisville

[@JudiateKing]

Boltz will be in Lou soon after the Lawsuit Settlement against Ramz/Kroenke!

[@timcombs2730]

Portland Oregon had an attempt in the late 60s with the proposed Delta Dome project. The city council narrowly voted against the project but they never got around to getting a name

[@Jefff72]

True and false that the Baltimore Stallions folded. They really relocated to Montreal to bring back the Alouettes to the CFL. They picked up the Alouettes history and the CFL considered the Stallions folded. Stallions were successful and the only non-Canadian team to win a Grey Cup.

[@thomasrocker7408]

Mike Pringle was awesome.

[@scottlow6342]

@@thomasrocker7408 my all time favourite player

[@rwboa22]

I remembered watching that Grey Cup Championship game on ESPN. Art Modell's agreement to bring his NFL franchise to Baltimore (as the "expansion" Ravens) pretty much forced the CFL to retreat north. That and the shortcomings of playing Canadian Football on U.S. Football fields, which probably would not be an issue now due to MLS and the soccer-specific stadiums that have sprouted up since 1995.

[@thomasrocker7408]

@@rwboa22 what is very interesting is that in 1994 the Baltimore franchise didn't have a name. In the 1994 Grey Cup the game announcers called them the Baltimore CFL'ers. And you are absolutely correct that most playing fields were not the same as in Canada. Only the Baltimore stadium and the Alamo Bowl were regulation CFL fields. I still love the three down game. Much faster and much more exiting.

[@WRXinthe410]

Stallions were great. Went to several games and they were so much fun.

[@MatthiaGryffine]

Do this for the other leagues too

[@leonardweirich5503]

NFL should consider an expansion team for Honolulu - I'd call them the Honolulu Tsunami

[@marcpower4167]

Traveling to and from Hawaii would be expensive though, that's the problem...The failed World Football league tried to put a team there called "The Hawaiians" and they lost over $3 million in 1974. Granted that whole league was poorly run...

[@pantherzone2008]

Are you insane?! Putting a NFL expansion team in Honolulu is prohibitively expensive! That will cost $2.6 billion to operate a stadium and their food is 46% more expensive than the mainland United States (Alaska excluded in this figure). Imagine you order a Italian Sausage, it will cost $44 to get one ordered and that’s in Hawaii alone! ALONE! Imagine that! As for the ticket, it will cost $6,000 for a single front row seat and what if they host a Super Bowl, that will make it impossibly expensive, hovering at $89,000 for the same single front row seat! That’s why NFL permanently will not award Honolulu an expansion team ever!

[@samuelmahmud1909]

Great information very informative

[@spacemandudley6237]

When Tennessee Titans came to be in existence there was a big push for the team to be named the Copperheads. I was for this idea.

[@richardharepax123]

I love the look of the last one

[@johnhitchiner4031]

San Antonio should have a football team

[@KamuiCage]

Jerry Jones wont let that happen

[@SteelMan9108]

kamui Cage .. My cowboys are the kings of the Lone Star State

[@Thekilla.j]

@@SteelMan9108 **coughs in Texan**

[@jackwyatt3854]

ΜΛVΞЯICK Texans better

[@SteelMan9108]

ɪɪ-ᴋɪɴɢ-ɪɪ .. Cough 5 super bowl championships

[@liamwalton3469]

NFL has to expand soon it’s been 20 years since they last did with cities like San Antonio, Memphis, San Diego, Oklahoma, Portland and Omaha all good options

[@memphistigers777]

Oilers moved from Memphis to Nashville. They're 2 different cities about 3 hours apart.

[@overbanked]

I guess technically you can say that, but Memphis was just used as a stop gap until (now known as) Nissan Stadium was finished being built in 1999.

[@memphistigers777]

@@overbanked marketing strategy most likely. I never knew that as a 10 year old. I was pissed when they left.

[@K40Toby]

Well good job on whoever made that suggestion in kids sports illustrated

[@brandonwahlstrom573]

How about them Duluth Eskimos, am I right?

[@spinalthepirate7207]

Ernie nevera

[@caronnaguy2723]

The Baltimore Stallions moved to Montreal and became the Alouettes in '96

[@joshuadesautels]

10:38 "The plan was for the Stallions to play their home games at Busch Stadium." Shows wrong Busch Stadium.

[@WDB2005]

St. Louis needs another team

[@slivereaglexx353]

NFL teams that almost relocated Oakland Raiders Sacramento

[@anonymousgoogle8462]

In the 80s Al Davis even pondered moving his team to Dallas.

[@rockvilleraven]

Baltimore in the mid 80s was the runner up city for relocation the Cardinals, however the Bidwells chose Arizona because of the weather.

[@kylewilliamson860]

Personally, I think the NFL should expand to 40 teams! And are the 8 cities that should have a franchise. • San Antonio, Tx. • St. Louis, Mo. • Birmingham, Al. • Oklahoma City, Ok. • Albuquerque, N.M. • Honolulu, Hi. • Portland, Or. • Richmond, Va.

[@aaronphelps2008]

Cleveland OH should have one. Oh wait, they do. It just feels like they don’t

[@jamesmacchi2499]

Vancouver?

[@jamesmacchi2499]

Or Toronto?

[@matthewmccann7108]

What about Omaha?

[@HVACSoldier]

Matthew McCann Omaha can’t handle an NBA team, what makes you think they can handle an NFL team. They almost got a CFL team, back when the CFL expanded into the US.

[@walteranderson7676]

@ 7:36-8:03 The Memphis Southmen, Was that THE Larry Csonka? Jim Kiik, and Paul Warfield my Dolphins?

[@marklittle8805]

Yuuuup. The owner of the Dolphins didn't pony up the cash and John Bassett did

[@jesswilson8687]

Az Firebirds would have been a cool team/logo/colors... I always wanted an AZ pro football team (before the Cards) in the nfl... I used to come up with names and logos as a kid in the 70s and 80s... Names like Firebirds, Rattlers, Diamondbacks, Sidewinders, Scorpions, sting, Prospectors, Gold Miners etc etc... All my idea... Lol

[@maanasravishankar5465]

Jess Wilson fr. It’s a cool name and a cool logo as well.

[@maanasravishankar5465]

Brians Redemption I used to do it for big cities too. Boston Bravehearts, Los Angeles Legends, etc.

[@OlinKreutzRules]

As a lifelong Bears fan who moved to AZ in 1987 and former season ticket holder when the Cardinals played in Sun Devil Stadium, I really wish that they would have adopted the name and unique color scheme from the Rattlers. To me, the Rattlers have a way better name than the Cardinals and no nfl team has that copper, teal and black colors. Also, to me, the Rattlers goes great with the Diamondbacks and not the lameass Cardinals.

[@kgs0n1c]

I did the same thing. The one I came with for Arizona was the Electrons.

[@Vulpane]

Guys we're overlooking one detail. Imagine if Arizona's football team was ran by Bart Starr and not the Bidwills for the early part of the 90s...

[@glennrugar9248]

THIS! This is good! Do more like this and less nfl analysis theory click bait and you've got my views

[@stefanomagaddino6868]

Has Boise ever come up in the conversation? Guess it's just a great collegiate football town.

[@ejf0255]

Cool video. Thanks

[@dexx600]

Birmingham could get an NFL franchise called The Alabama Slammers (named after the alcoholic drink)

[@tannerjordan3754]

Or the Alabama hammers. Hell the crimson tide almost qualifies as an nfl team. Jk ofc

[@mackenzieshaffer3709]

How about the Birmingham Klan to celebrate the rich history of Alabama.

[@chrisbradford3410]

@@mackenzieshaffer3709 dude thats wrong most folks from alabama not like that. And thing like that just makes things bad. I live in alabama and none of my fam or friends are like that. And a remark like that u must be racist.

[@robfreedman6496]

@@chrisbradford3410 maybe Chargers can be become the Alabama Slammers since they'd have more fans in Alabama than in Los Angeles.

[@SarahKayeRen]

Birmingham Bombers.

[@PrimarySweeper13]

Stallions sounds like an arena football team tbh

[@why-why-whywhywhy]

For this diehard fan of the *Canadian Football League* & in my case, more specially of the *Hamilton Tiger Cats* I could honestly give two ‘bleeps’ as to whether or not the NFL ever comes to my hometown of Toronto-Canada. And before y’all go tearing my head off, no I ain’t hatin’ on the *NFL* either. Especially considering that I have been a dyed in the wool supporter of the *Cleveland Browns* since the days of *Bernie Kosar/Ozzie Newsome/Kevin Mack/Ernest Byner/Frank Minnifield/Hanford Dixon* (to name a few of my favourite all-time Browns) as well.

[@timcombs2730]

Isn’t Hamilton Ontario‘s NHL allegiance to the Buffalo Sabres just because the Argos and Ti-Cats can’t get along?

[@notorious_majora]

I would love to see the Hound Dogs as a team.

[@MrMosebysLobby]

jesus imagine the Patriots in Missouri KC would of had a bitchfit

[@joemckim1183]

KC has no real official claim on the St. Louis market since there was already an NFL team previously in St. Louis. But a lot of former Rams fans since the team left have been following the Chiefs more.

[@Barbariandisks]

Rumor has it, the Toronto Argonauts wants to leave the CFL. I swear i think Austin will get a franchise before San Antonio. Maybe the Austin Wranglers with a horse logo

[@hunn89]

When the Seahawks and Buccaneers came online there was originally a plan to have 4 teams come in with one in Toronto, I believe was called Toronto Stampeders and a Hawaii team called the Islanders. At the time there was a lot going on and pressure from the World Football League. When WFL folded, I think the plan for 4 teams went away.

[@ThePMcDonald]

I truly don't think Toronto will get a team because the CFL (backed by the Canadian Parliament) will block the attempt

[@ninatouchdown2500]

You forgot The Springfield Meltdowns; the Simpsons made and episode about it XD

[@kentfreeman8674]

Nina Arleth very true

[@joemckim1183]

The Meltdowns should've gotten Jim Mora to be the Head Coach.

[@mikehammerle928]

Buccaneers, Lions and Browns all had perfect records.

[@noah-cc1uf]

I would really hate it if the nfl expanded out of the United States

[@thegoatedone4620]

If the NFL were to expand they would most likely expand out of the USA

[@thegoatedone4620]

Mexico City needs a team

[@thegoatedone4620]

The NFL has been really pushing for Mexico City and London getting a team

[@jpmnky]

I gotta agree. London seems absolutely ridiculous. All the travel for everyone involved and the time difference is just too much. Just keep it how it is. So teams and their families can visit the UK from time to time. The tourist shine will wear off fast if there’s a permanent team there. And Mexico City is a hell of a lot further away than a lot of people realize. And Canadian teams in the NFL is a goofy idea too. Especially in Toronto and Vancouver. They have the Bills and Seahawks already.

[@niapor]

@@jpmnky Dallas to Mexico, slightly under 3 hours; L.A. to Mexico city is 3 hours, Chicago to Mexico city is 4 hours, NY is 5 hours from Mexico ( same as from Los Angeles to NY BTW ), Boston 7 hours from Mexico, Los Angeles to Boston???? 7 hours

[@Reggie2000]

The expansion should be London, Spain, France, Germany. You make them an expansion at large, and flip them between the AFC and NFC each year as to not burden any other division.

[@pantherzone2008]

Not going to happen. It cost too much in travel from the mainland United States to foreign countries. It cost $2.1 billion for one single regular season game in a foreign country. Plus it’s bad for football players to be in the air for 8 hours, plus additional domestic flight to New York City if teams are not from New York City region. Los Angeles Rams is one example that they had to endure 16 hours of flight from Los Angeles to New York City to London. It took too much tolls on their body and it’s not worth it to expand to other foreign cities in other foreign countries.

[@Reggie2000]

@@pantherzone2008 2.1 billion?????? What! 🤣 Make your new years resolution to stop smoking dope. Also, people travel overseas all the time. Under my plan, your average NFL player would not have to fly overseas but a few times in their whole career. Plus, with clever planning, even going from the West coast to Germany can be done by scheduling the week before on the East coast, and then having them fly straight there for the week, and then put their bye week on the third week. All very doable I assure you. Even the foreign team can just play their games in lots. 4 there, four in the USA repeat. All they need is a second home base in the USA . Very workable.

[@jackmiller3246]

I've been pushing hard for a team in Mexico. The people in that country loves the NFL, and it would make sense to put a team in Mexico. I feel the NFL should get the Chargers out of LA and move to Mexico, if they don't want them in San Diego.

[@rockoalvarez8651]

Put it in monterey mex city to much smog

[@rockoalvarez8651]

Or tijuana

[@karl7736]

The problem is that you have to offer the tickets at a price that can be paid by the fans while paying the players the same salaries as US based players. Average ticket price to a Liga MX game is 500 pesos (~$26). Can a team be successful charging 1/5 the price of ticket and that doesn't even start to get into luxury boxes.

[@havokan45]

i forget where the Stadium is in Mexico but they say it seats Hundred Thousand and is Sold Out when the NFL plays in .

[@jackmiller3246]

@@havokan45 Mexico City.

[@rickyjoehaynes3989]

I’m from Alabama. Biggest football fan state. We got Alabama, Aurburn, Jacksonville, Troy, Mobile. We got close I think twice. But I believe Alabama would make a good team in the NFL. Playing teams like the Falcons, Saints, Cowboys, Dolphins, Panthers, Buccaneers, Jaguars, Titans. Plus we have a beautiful state which will bring in a lot of tourist and I’m pretty sure we would bring in money. I mean people get excited when they beat us anyway. But I’m still shocked that we don’t have an NFL team.

[@davecotant9186]

just bring in the alabama crimson tide.....they are already a pro team