To Tell the Truth - Burglar turned minister; PANEL: Betty White , Mike Wallace (Dec 23, 1958)

PANEL: Betty White , Mike Wallace, Kitty Carlisle, Hy Gardner
CONTESTANT #1: Brock Strom (Captain of Air Force football team)
CONTESTANT #2: Clinton H. Goodwin (Burglar turned minister)
CONTESTANT #3: Werner Beck (Vienna Choir singer)
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[@worldnotworld]

Thank you! What a beautiful Christmas send-off. Inconceivable today, to our great loss. Good that Collier stayed the applause at the end.

[@shirtless6934]

What is amazing is that all four panelists are Jews.

[@RS-tz2zn]

@@shirtless6934 Um...Betty White wasn't Jewish. She was a member of the Unity Church, also I don't see any evidence that Hy Gardner was Jewish either.

[@oldwestguy]

Along with What's My Line, this classic game show from television's infancy, is my all-time favorite. Simple, yet captivating, it is fun to play along... and I'm rarely able to pick the right one.

[@BabeFroman]

At 9:21 I was looking away from my screen and jumped out of my skin! Daleks!

[@TSquare7741]

Excellent point! 😂

[@totellthetruthcbs4220]

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[@retrorex]

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[@totellthetruthcbs4220]

Just one more episode to go after this for 1958 and then I'll be taking another break from posting more TTTT episodes for a while. Today's episode features Betty White, and tomorrow's has a special What's My Line connection! I do have the first few months of 1959 (though not edited yet), but then a long gap of missing shows till 1961. It may be quite a while before I find copies of the shows I'm missing, and I'd really prefer to post the episodes in order (not to mention being pretty busy with important real life stuff), so I hope you'll understand the need for a possibly extended break. I think most of us-- myself very much included-- are WAY behind on actually watching the episodes posted anyhow. Thanks for your patience and support of the channel! --------------------------- Join our Facebook group for TTTT-- great discussions, photos, etc, and great people! facebook.com/groups/718020231652577/ To stay up to date with postings, please consider supporting the TTTT channel by subscribing. The TTTT channel will feature all available episodes of the nighttime CBS series that ran from 1956 to 1968, with a new show posted every weekday in original broadcast order. Click here to subscribe: kzbin.info/door/ZkBUfTQ_tmKAlUV_sQqrTQ

[@519djw6]

*Regarding the Vienna Boys' Choir, there is a very good Austrian movie called "Der schönste Tag meines Lebens" (The Most Beautiful Day of My Life) about a boy who escapes from Communist Hungary and eventually joins the choir. It's what they call a "Heimatfilm" (literally a homeland film), a sentimental movie taking place in an idealized setting. Some might call such movies "kitschy"--but if you understand German, I highly recommend it.*

[@kkech7150]

when Christmas had meaning.

[@mikele5756]

I couldn't agree more. You are absolutely right.

[@poetcomic1]

Betty White "For two years you committed depradations...what are depradations?" SO Betty.

[@janeiwasduncan8463]

Nobody is converted by a person...you are led to the Lord by a person...conversion is by the Blood of Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit...

[@loissimmons6558]

At six years of age, I knew enough about college football that I was aware that the 1958 Air Force Academy football team was something of an upstart and came out of nowhere to make it to a major bowl game in its first season against major college opponents. I also remember that the Cotton Bowl against TCU ended up as a 0-0 tie. So far they hit their peak in their first big season: it was their best result in a major bowl game (they lost in the Sugar Bowl in 1971.) They were able to achieve this without having a regular home field. Falcon Stadium wasn't completed until 1962. They played only three home games that year, two at DU Stadium in Denver, the home of the University of Denver football team, and one at a smaller venue in Colorado Springs, en route to a 9 win, no loss and 2 tie season (including the Cotton Bowl result).

[@44032]

They've had a lot of good teams since but never another year quite as good as that one, their second as a major college football program. .

[@romansroad2007]

That boy sang very nice. Good old times back then , people and times where good to others , no cell phones etc . No worries...

[@janeiwasduncan8463]

Imagine...they are about 70 + today. Wonder if he kept singing ? ? 🎈🎈

[@RobotWillie]

Sort of. There was a lot more racism in the form of actual lynchings and not just police making sometimes poor choices, so I wouldn't go too far saying people were good to others in one sweeping statement. And certain abuse went more noticed like domestic violence, and women who were raped had an even harder time being listened to. Those are just a few examples of why society then may be not as swell as you are thinking. There were things better about that time, but there are things better about present day as well. Another thing is better medicine now.

[@kenowens9021]

Strom played pro ball and was elected to the college hall of fame. He's still alive.

[@loissimmons6558]

+Ken Owens Where did he play pro ball? It wasn't in the NFL according to footballreference.com.

[@janeiwasduncan8463]

@Mark Richardson you didn't finish your comment! It's Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever!💞

[@DanieltheTruebadour]

"Rodger" represents the letter "R" in the radio Alpha Bravo Charlie's. As in "message Received.

[@kenyongray2615]

In game 1, the X-15 was mentioned. If you have never seen a video of the X-15 rocket plane being launched from the bottom of another plane (if my memory is right), take a look. Didn't Kitty and Hy go 3 for 3? To be a soloist in the Vienna Boys Choir is quite an accomplishment and honor. Thanks for the video. Hate to say it, but I did missed Polly a bit.

[@MicksChick714]

I love Silent Night!

[@janeiwasduncan8463]

When it was first sung a guitar was used because the organ was not working 🎶🎶🎶⛪⛪🎵🎵🎵

[@arthurharrison1345]

Brock Strom is still around and 82 years old.

[@DarylReeceJames]

His still with us at 86!

[@rmelin13231]

And still with us at 89.

[@CoxJoxSox]

I immediately knew #1 was the Vienna Boy's Choir singer because he is the only one who wore his collar correctly - no one who wears a collar like that would not fasten it

[@519djw6]

Among the "Soloists for the Vienna Boys' Choir," I noticed that either # 2 or # 3 (who are Dutch and are brothers) for some reason gave the French pronunciation of (Franz) Schubert. I kind of wonder why!

[@JayTemple]

+519DJW possibly because Bud pronounced it that way during the affidavit

[@matthewlaurence3121]

Dutch speakers being close to the French, they often learnt the language, among others, given that the boys are sons of a prominent diplomat, especially in that generation, they would be accustomed to the traditional French nonmenclature when speaking to foreigners. This would not happen today, given the influence American culture has had on European society in the last 60 years.

[@jonnelson6446]

Wonder what happened to Werner Beck. Did he sing as an adult?

[@donnawoodford6641]

"A black eye" for a choir boy? I don't think so. The Austrian singer Werner Beck, is easy to detect on stage.

[@reflectionsonthesacredlitu433]

I think she was referring to a Norman Rockwell painting.

[@kristabrewer9363]

Why was Mike Wallace let go from doing this show? He only did ONE

[@Itsisawnotiseen]

Krista Brewer they had many guest panelists.

[@otherutube6654]

He had an abrasive personality.

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

Boy #2 had great hair!

[@hobonickel]

3:10 Hy Gardner butchered the pronunciation of Wichita.

[@davidbee4515]

He's a half-wit, even with the cheat notes.

[@wattsjetton3027]

Celebrity Guests: 1. Betty White 2. Mike Wallace 3. Kitty Carlisle 4. Hy Gardner Host: Bud Collyer

[@edwinrivera8449]

WOW!!!! There was a time when Americans on Television said Merry Christmas? (Not Happy Holidays) So sad how people fear words that meant something good.

[@jacquelinebell6201]

I know people who still do in America, on line. In Australia very few people say Happy Holidays.

[@leesher1845]

Kitty thought that 10.00 was enough to receive when getting out of prison. Even in those days, 10.00 wasn’t with worth that much.

[@LillyMcNealWhite]

$10 is roughly $100 in 2020 money $1 could get you a weeks worth of bus fare.

[@retrorex]

Was Mike Wallace deaf at this time? He couldn't hear anything, but it seems that the other panelists had no problem.

[@kristabrewer9363]

That happen ALL the time on "What 's My Line." I wondered why everyone always seemed so deaf!

[@jacquelinebell6201]

​@@kristabrewer9363on WML it was the acoustics of the theatre. Some ends were hard to hear from.

[@44032]

So they do a 'briefing' (14:30)

[@edwinrivera8449]

Correct me if I am wrong... Mark Goodson and Bill Todman are Jewish, (The producers of show) My point is... the show ended with Merry Christmas.

[@totellthetruthcbs4220]

It was standard practice in this era to simply consider "Merry Christmas" the standard holiday greeting. Even further than this, folks like George Burns and Jack Benny, who were Jewish, did full blown Christmas episodes virtually every year, with no mention of their being Jewish (even though everyone knew.)

[@edwinrivera8449]

I am 20 years of age. Very new to the internet I watch What's My Line? and I just started watching To Tell The truth. It was odd to here them say Merry Christmas. Were I work we are not allowed to say that. I can say it's no big deal... But the truth of the matter is, It is a big deal to me. At what point did it become against the law to say Merry Christmas?

[@totellthetruthcbs4220]

Edwin Rivera It's not against the law to say "Merry Christmas", people are just a lot more prone to taking offense at basically harmless things nowadays. Speaking as a Jewish person, I don't love the fact that "Merry Christmas" was considered an appropriate thing to wish anyone, but I also don't see any cause for making a big national stink about this. There are far more important issues for society to deal with than this. But this is probably not a topic we should pursue any further here. I don't want people to start arguing about it. Thanks!

[@edwinrivera8449]

I live in New York City. I was 18 years of age.(now 20) I worked for a Jewish family in the garment district (Loving family) I sent them a Christmas card thanking them for all they have done for me. The card had a painting of Jesus Christ. My family said to me... You can't do that they are Jewish. The following day when I saw them and said I am sorry for the card I had sent you. There responds was... This is your believe we respect it. you gave your love to us.

[@nelsonricardo3729]

It's nice that they appreciated it, but how can you live in NYC and be that clueless at age 18? Oh, never mind, living in Brooklyn myself, originally from Yonkers, I know that there really is segregation in the city. We like to think of ourselves as cosmopolitan and diverse, but there are White neighborhood, Black neighborhoods, Latino neighborhoods, Jewish neighborhoods, etc...

[@IPlayOneOnT.V.]

Ok, no free cigarettes for this minister crew. Probably a good idea.

[@sixtythreekraft2608]

18:50 Dorothy Kilgallen was prohibited from asking a very similar question a few years later.

[@RobotWillie]

But Cessna is also in Wichita even at the time of this show. So the other two were not wrong. Wichita is very well known for being a base for plane making and even a few decent sized private airports that the factories use. I live in Washington state where the main one is even then, but sadly it seems they may be moving all operations from here to South Carolina.

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

Man #1 in Game #1 Man #3 in Game #2 Boy #1 in Game #3

[@gemoftheocean]

toad

[@TSquare7741]

I think Mike Wallace was a tad harsh with his questioning of the boys… like an inquisition! Geesh, it’s only a game show, Mike!🙄

[@davidbee4515]

He and his son are world-class jerks.

[@poetcomic1]

It always makes me uncomfortable playing this game with children. It is vaguely cruel somehow.

[@peternagy-im4be]

Don't be so stupid.

[@edwinrivera8449]

$50. On what's My Line? to $500 on To Tell The Truth. How much was $500 worth in 1958 in today's market?

[@joemackey1950]

According to www.westegg.com/inflation/ that $500 would be worth $4,215 in 2016 dollars.

[@mizzyroro]

The first three, they all look the same.

[@victoryak86]

Leave it to Mike Wallace to make an ass of himself, saying the wrong guy looks “tougher than the other two and you have to be tough to be an All American.” Made a fool of himself.

[@davidfritz1331]

Gosh, I hope none of those choir boys was a castrati (I don't know when they stopped doing that).

[@gemoftheocean]

at least two hundred years ago.

Man, the days when the poor announcers had to advertise crap just to make a game show! I had to laugh at the Christian organisation only help men and boys. Even back then the church were very sexist!