Touchdown! The Rane PERFORMER Review | Beatsource Tech

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@mike._.feliciano6782
@mike._.feliciano6782 5 ай бұрын
My current setup is 2 Technics 1200s with a Rane Seventy. I did purchase the Rane Four when it came out. I knew at that time that the platters were static however, I also knew that when Pio dropped their Rev 7, the Four would be the foundation for Rane's answer to the Rev 7 so, I sold the Four and went back to my 1200s waiting on the day that Rane would drop the Four but with motorized platters, it was inevitable given Rane's competitive nature. When I saw that Superbowl sneak peak on the gram, I was excited and thought it may come out towards the 4 quarter of this year. Low and behold, what was sitting in my notification section on the Tube, this review. I knew that Mojaxx would give us a fair and honest assessment of this equipment, like he always does. Cleveland Terry is another one that would give his honest assessment. I do appreciate the work they do for us with these reviews. I just purchased this and can't wait to dig in. Great review, Mojaxx, thank you for all you do.
@TheSoloa177
@TheSoloa177 5 ай бұрын
I happen to have had a Rane 4 in transit due for delivery tomorrow. I immediately called the supplier and set up a swap after watching this. Glad I did!
@DMulabiTalejan
@DMulabiTalejan 5 ай бұрын
Wow, in the nick of time... Congratulations
@JewelzFin
@JewelzFin 5 ай бұрын
My Prime 4+ is packaged and waiting to be shipped today. I thought about doing the same... But I'm one of those standalone nerds 😅
@blackistheword7
@blackistheword7 5 ай бұрын
Great choice! Sc live 4 owner here! Enjoy!​@@JewelzFin
@SeanyDJ
@SeanyDJ 5 ай бұрын
Cheers for the video! I’ve had my Rane One since the first shipment to the UK arrived and I still absolutely love it, in fact I think it’s been the best DJ equipment investment I’ve made in years. I held off getting the Rane Four in the hope this would happen, as I love the motorised platters of the One and it looks like it’s been worth the wait.
@ranecorporation
@ranecorporation 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, MOJAXX!
@djtoshiba
@djtoshiba 4 ай бұрын
Now i want a Rane Seventy Four, please please. 4 channel mixer with stem Control with the deck of our choice !!
@benji.B-side
@benji.B-side 5 ай бұрын
What a fantastic bit of kit and being a vinyl DJ, this would be perfect for me.
@OBDPVCR
@OBDPVCR 5 ай бұрын
Looks DOPE!! I've had the One for the last two years and its been a game changer. (Apart from some build quality issues). IMO all Rane needs now is to get their crossfader more competitive with Magvel bc thats whats stopping alot of battle DJs from using Rane steady. The cross fader is EVERYTHING and Magvel is a cheat code with how crispy it is for transforming. But Mag Four with the latest Serato updates is still definitely workable, its just in the era of DJs as Content Creators you cannot cede that advantage to Pioneer. Nice job Rane!!
@RussFryman
@RussFryman 5 ай бұрын
Great video. I'm super happy to see this come out. I'm not really a spinning platter kind of guy, but the screens in the jogs have me seeing stars, and I really enjoy upfader play, so this may end up in my shopping cart.
@torinmartinez4331
@torinmartinez4331 5 ай бұрын
This is the dopest controller of our generation! Thanks for the great, thorough review per usual. Getting one right now!
@DJBennyswift
@DJBennyswift 5 ай бұрын
I’m really digging the Performer, thanks for the review Mojaxx!
@radientproductions9799
@radientproductions9799 5 ай бұрын
yo that Mojaxx custom Blue/White skin is awesome!
@Positive_Tea
@Positive_Tea 5 ай бұрын
The only channel I watch on embargo day!
@eddymacdj
@eddymacdj 5 ай бұрын
Same!
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! (But you should watch all the others after)
@djcoalcut9399
@djcoalcut9399 5 ай бұрын
What an incredible controller. If it were stand-alone (no laptop), it would be perfect. I think I'll wait.
@matthewjswider
@matthewjswider 5 ай бұрын
16 channels put out this review. I’m not watching anyone till I see mojaxxxxxx!!!
@djcbiz
@djcbiz 5 ай бұрын
Ayyeeee Mojaxx cuttin them boys up!!
@myndgruv
@myndgruv 5 ай бұрын
I miss having rane based just outside of Seattle when they drop new products. We use to see them out and about with the employees at their gigs before launches all the time.
@st33ldi9ital
@st33ldi9ital 5 ай бұрын
thats dope af.. i want one, bad! thanks for the review
@ClevelandTerry
@ClevelandTerry 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review!
@DDC-12
@DDC-12 5 ай бұрын
I can’t wait to get my hands on it. I have the 4 with 2 12mk2’s and I love it but I’ve been waiting for spinning platters in a controller format with 4 channels.
@stylesdavis554
@stylesdavis554 5 ай бұрын
Name a better reviewer than the Mighty Mojaxx. I'll wait....
@Skaratak
@Skaratak 5 ай бұрын
At last, there it is. The rather big 'waiting gap' was curious indeed. Now imagine a Denon/Rane standalone hybrid with spinning 7" platters, that would be killer (and killer heavy, too)
@KevinBasher
@KevinBasher 5 ай бұрын
SC7000Ms with those jogs would be awesome. I hope Denon DJ has not decided against separates (as the rumors suggest).
@JewelzFin
@JewelzFin 5 ай бұрын
That's my dream waiting to happen. My Prime 4+ is waiting to be delivered today from a store I just purchased from over the weekend.
@Skaratak
@Skaratak 5 ай бұрын
@@JewelzFin Enjoy, its a killer device! I own the OG white Prime 4.
@eyeviewfocus
@eyeviewfocus 5 ай бұрын
Great review....... I were looking forward for this for a long time.😏👌
@GODInTheWax444
@GODInTheWax444 5 ай бұрын
Mojaxx you're getting better at cutting bro. Good stuff!
@LeonEdwards1976
@LeonEdwards1976 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant review Mojaxx. Thank you.
@reno5159
@reno5159 5 ай бұрын
You know when its been skinned rane aint getting it back🤣🤣🤣 gotta be the most rave review that. All your hardware too, must be a rare occurrence you end up keeping a device!! Might be the best controller on the market period. Intrested to see pioneers response!!
@robertschnobert9090
@robertschnobert9090 5 ай бұрын
Pioneer DJ is dead. The new name is Alpha Theta and they really, really want to sell you subscriptions. 🌈
@djflipside33
@djflipside33 5 ай бұрын
Best motorized controller in my opinion!!!
@deeejay1054
@deeejay1054 5 ай бұрын
Rev 7 all the way..
@Nutzo247
@Nutzo247 5 ай бұрын
I have a Rane 4 and I love the unit, but I'm not too sure if it's worth the upgrade... If I didn't have the 4, the performer would be my first pick.
@krazy2094
@krazy2094 5 ай бұрын
Mojaxx has been sitting on this review since covid dropped
@therealdjblack29
@therealdjblack29 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@miyagithedj
@miyagithedj 5 ай бұрын
not THAT long, but not too far off
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@nesentertainments
@nesentertainments 5 ай бұрын
Great review as always. Love my rane 4 the layout is what I love the most and dedicated stem buttons. If I had the chance I would love this controller to remind me of my vinyl days on my 1200 technics. I really need to setup my 1200 and bring out my vinyl collection. Thanks again
@heathenshaunt681
@heathenshaunt681 2 ай бұрын
I will take my rane one coming in today it's hilarious he says the spindle is in the way when us old school guys see it as a part to use, you can can twist it to speed ip or nudge a bit in contrast it's also good to pinch if a full platter drag is too much and I don't need all those screens keep it simple snd more reliable
@davidefranco1465
@davidefranco1465 5 ай бұрын
best and honest review as always!!!
@EricKizis-he6mo
@EricKizis-he6mo 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review! As always!
@thevirtualmixtape
@thevirtualmixtape 5 ай бұрын
I just want to know why they didn’t opt into naming it the PERFOURMER.
@bosmanragga51
@bosmanragga51 5 ай бұрын
It would mislead when you type to search the name
@warmsauce
@warmsauce 5 ай бұрын
Really like this. Four channels, Rane's superior build/audio quality, vinyl emulation, track selection on LCDs (No OLED?). Everything does seem cramped in there though, makes the Rane One the more attractive controller in my opinion. However, I think they missed a trick with the hardware implementation of stems. I would have preferred the 3 EQ control of the stems to control drums, bass and melody. 4 vs 3 stem separation is the only thing that differentiates Serato from Djay Pro
@DJSwitchPDX
@DJSwitchPDX 5 ай бұрын
ME. I'M NOT MANY PEOPLE. My one massive complaint about the Rane One is the lack of onboard FX. This is the Rane I've been waiting for and I can't WAIT to run my vinyl through it and even perform on vinyl with it. JFC I think I'm in love.
@SoleDidIt
@SoleDidIt 5 ай бұрын
Come on Mojaxx! I needed you to also speak about the Rane performer vs the rev 7 now
@jeromeluna7495
@jeromeluna7495 4 ай бұрын
Excellent review like always thank you
@swissivory
@swissivory 5 ай бұрын
If this sells well, think the next device from inMusic should be a Denon Prime 4 standalone controller with with motorized platters 🔥
@oppa-g
@oppa-g 2 күн бұрын
OG V7 user, we've come so far since.
@DJDSharp
@DJDSharp 5 ай бұрын
great review! think I'm going to cop
@PhearNoneGearGadgets
@PhearNoneGearGadgets 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Thanks for the demo!
@Dj_Shnl
@Dj_Shnl 5 ай бұрын
To be able to view your library on the jog wheel is amazing . Would have been nice to have a USB flash drive input the one can play from . That would have made it almost a stand alone controller as well. #LoveIt
@dj-MadaM
@dj-MadaM 5 ай бұрын
I wish they make the Numark V7 version of these (with the pads of course) to get real 4 deck control.... or they make the mixer section as a stand alone to use with 4 of the PLX CRSS in the future.... you know its hard to do a real 4 deck mix with only 2 spinning platters.... yes I know there is inputs to make it happen.... but anyway.... would be a nice stuff....
@allentastic
@allentastic 5 ай бұрын
Got mine ordered! Excited to do some weddings with this
@roymoxley2587
@roymoxley2587 5 ай бұрын
Let’s see how long the motors hold up That’s the question I own a Rane 4 There was ground issues that I repaired myself ,yes I did and I blew the warranty out cause I did not want to send it back due to where I live I can say after that it’s been working like it should .
@hassandjhaboogiespin4550
@hassandjhaboogiespin4550 4 ай бұрын
MOJAXX👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽😄🫵🏼You the man’ definitely Broke the performer down w/o a DOUBT!!!!! i bought the PERFORMER’🔥🔥🔥🔥Definitely a Great Treat….. The Fan on the Back was SMART’, Great Thinking’ RANE’🤗, Now the Booklet for Controller needs a Upgrade!!!!
@Blaulicht1120
@Blaulicht1120 5 ай бұрын
What I would like (and what will never be released) is the device like this with motorised platters, 2 channels, effects section and no other buttons like pads etc. Just to load mp3s from usb stick and long blend them on the beach as if they were on vinyl.
@BoomDocs14K
@BoomDocs14K 5 ай бұрын
Great video MJaxx! This video, along with CT's review are the first reviews that I watched to date! Been waiting for the Rane Performer vids to launch since the leak went viral. Thanks for this in-depth review!
@jooniec
@jooniec 5 ай бұрын
Big up Mojaxx good review
@bizzybdj
@bizzybdj 4 ай бұрын
i like the 4 but love the performer. have both and the rane one. kinda indifferent about switching but the spinning platters are what makes me actually enjoy the rane performer. seems to be the answer.
@gimmemyish
@gimmemyish 5 ай бұрын
Sweet. No need to move on from my Rev 7
@artdog9521
@artdog9521 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful!! Seem like they took the NUMARK NS7III and Combined it with the NUMARK NS6II and Added STEAMS and more etc……. Just plain Genius!!!! 😮👀😮👀😮
@rolelasrever
@rolelasrever 5 ай бұрын
Looks dope!
@RadINation
@RadINation 20 күн бұрын
Love the Easter Egg @ 7:26
@MichaelRoehr
@MichaelRoehr 5 ай бұрын
What a beast, I like it a lot.
@felixkoecke657
@felixkoecke657 5 ай бұрын
First: Have always been a fan to your reviews. Thx for that! Second: After more than 4 months teasing the Performer, it might be a choice to go with. Although it has been out there in the wild with so many guys testing it. My question, as the first DJ's telling, that Serato is not connecting: Which version was used to test it? As always for now nearly 40 years spinning on a pro level: Never change your running system too early. I have NOT been lucky with Macbook M1 / Serato / Numark NS7 III nore with the same set up and Rane One! Serato together with the M1 Chip has connection Issues! Will be resolved with the 3.2 as announced? The 3.1.4 announced PHASE connection solved if connected to Serato BEFORE connect to Mixer. It didn't! So: If you Guys... MoJax, Cleveleand Terry and so many more, tested it... Which Version you used?
@batgele2796
@batgele2796 4 ай бұрын
i’m sold on it, thank you.
@BX2official
@BX2official 5 ай бұрын
At last no more “HOW DOES IT FEEL” soundtrack. We rejoice
@eddymacdj
@eddymacdj 5 ай бұрын
Hahaha I love that I came across this comment. It popped off in my head straight away when I read this lol
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
You know that will pop up again soon enough!
@bigdaz7272
@bigdaz7272 5 ай бұрын
My thoughts, this needs to be made compatible with Rekordbox.
@djjoeykmusic
@djjoeykmusic 5 ай бұрын
Great video Thank you 🙏🏾
@nicholasbrown8234
@nicholasbrown8234 5 ай бұрын
Great video as always! One question does it have auto bpm detection if you have turntables connected? Thanks
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
No, tap (or dial in) BPM only. But the FX do work.
@shadeamarshall4709
@shadeamarshall4709 5 ай бұрын
Nice wish would love if rane came out with another Rane Twelve update
@DjSmoothNY
@DjSmoothNY 5 ай бұрын
Facts but the MK2 works great as is.
@bazildonbond
@bazildonbond 4 ай бұрын
I think that this is a bit of a game changer. It's got everything I dreamed of with my original finalscratch UFO and much more. It'll be amazing to see what people will do with this. It's an asset not a bedroom toy though. I wish I had the cash.
@matrixcrew
@matrixcrew 5 ай бұрын
Line/phono inputs on channel 3 & 4? Why not channels 1 & 4? Would make way more sense when adding external gear/turntables to each side.
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
In ‘Serato layout’ 3 and 4 are the two channels on the outside.
@matrixcrew
@matrixcrew 5 ай бұрын
@Mojaxx ah I see. Used to separate hardware. Controller channel order from left to right is 3, 1, 2, 4.
@reno5159
@reno5159 5 ай бұрын
Fuckin amazing looking device. Shame theres no send return. I know im in the 1% of djs who use it tho. Not suprising when i havent seen one on a controller for like 10 years now! Would really like resonance and delay feedback on board too. Absolutley essential for Dub/reggae DJs
@thatchinaboi1
@thatchinaboi1 5 ай бұрын
THIS
@thatchinaboi1
@thatchinaboi1 5 ай бұрын
Rane also needs to come out with a DJ Subcontroller inspired by the beloved Pioneer DDJ-SP1.
@thatchinaboi1
@thatchinaboi1 5 ай бұрын
As well as the Rane Ten.
@reno5159
@reno5159 5 ай бұрын
@@thatchinaboi1 hahah I've been getting by with novation dicers and an MPC quite nicely but that would be dope!!!
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to see that too, but I just don’t think the market research (which all these companies do) says there is enough demand for it. Sadly.
@UnemployableFakeGuru
@UnemployableFakeGuru 5 ай бұрын
Looks like a monster.
@EventStreamTeam
@EventStreamTeam 5 ай бұрын
Is there a trick to getting serato to recognize the performer?
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
Assuming you posted this before Serato dropped 3.1.5, a few hours after the launch of the hardware. They’re on New Zealand time which messes things up.
@ericwashington8660
@ericwashington8660 4 ай бұрын
Mojaxx, I would like to know when the Rane Performer will be working with Virtual DJ?
@don1mega
@don1mega 5 ай бұрын
What is the name and artist on that second track?
@umiradio9403
@umiradio9403 5 ай бұрын
Great machine ... Fantastic updates, too bad the platter waveform colors don't match the Serato software waveform colors when bass is removed, acapella, etc . And still no updates for the flagship Rane 72 ? ..
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
AFAIK no gear with screens has the stems visible. It’s not in the Serato API (or whatever). I’d love it on the S11 etc too.
@cyberphonic
@cyberphonic 5 ай бұрын
As an early adopter of the Rane Four then a few months later Rane drop the price by £300 in the UK, I felt we been mugged off. So Id never buy another Rane.
@Dugiesrevenge
@Dugiesrevenge 5 ай бұрын
This is the controller I’ve been waiting for since going digital and what will break pioneer DJs heart even more -I’ll ditch RB without a thought … hello Rane
@DJTempa
@DJTempa 5 ай бұрын
Not a huge fan of Rane products but i'm glad this exists! definitely some healthy competition here to keep everyone else on their toes... now i'm even more excited for the REV-9
@JYMBO
@JYMBO 5 ай бұрын
Yeah i tried switching to the Rane Four for nearly a year but could never really gel with it, it's not brand loyalty it's just workflow, muscle memory etc
@Curt.S_Official
@Curt.S_Official 5 ай бұрын
We found the L take👏 Imagine seeing innovation and deciding on waiting for the monopoly oversaturated company to make their version
@Shaunsterdj
@Shaunsterdj 5 ай бұрын
Keep dreaming on that 9! 😂
@DJTempa
@DJTempa 5 ай бұрын
@@Curt.S_Official Not everything is a "take", personal preference exists, i gave the rane controller it's flowers but it's just not for me, i have been a full time DJ for 19 years and have been using pioneer products that entire time (besides technics) it's as the comment before yours said, it's not out of brand loyalty, i used what the clubs gave me & now i stick to what i know, i wasn't telling everyone else what to do, just sharing my own thoughts as asked by mojaxx at the end of the video :D
@JYMBO
@JYMBO 5 ай бұрын
@@Curt.S_Official wait... innovation? lmao
@edwardmowton9825
@edwardmowton9825 5 ай бұрын
How is the headphone output? Sometimes when my house is sleeping I need to just mix/play through headphones.. PGM on the Rane One is low as hell.. Is it better on the Performer?
@djdale.5806
@djdale.5806 4 ай бұрын
Love it!!! I wish I'd waited a little while longer before purchasing my Rev 7, Sure I have other setups, Numark NS7iii,Technics 1210s & S11,Numark TTs & a literal museum of equipment! After watching this vid Im sold on the Rane Performer. Oh On a side note I love your Intimidator Blue Mixer. Still have one myself. Wow!! Takes me back!! Thank you for this in depth peak into this amazing piece of kit!!
@robtronik
@robtronik 5 ай бұрын
I wish something like this existed for DJay Pro AI.
@robtronik
@robtronik Ай бұрын
as a follow up to my comment below, it now works with DJay Pro! I purchased this unit and tried it out and its amazing. Just an FYI.
@kineticstringwell844
@kineticstringwell844 5 ай бұрын
can i run ableton and serrato same time . does it have a in built soundcard
@reno5159
@reno5159 5 ай бұрын
Omg this could integrate so well... Can just imagine how creative people can get with that workflow!!
@roymoxley2587
@roymoxley2587 5 ай бұрын
You will have to just put in the audio on a usb drive I don’t think it works in abelton or any daw
@dj-wg5116
@dj-wg5116 5 ай бұрын
I want one
@dulackmugi7129
@dulackmugi7129 4 ай бұрын
Great video, impressive beast of a machine. But I don know whether its just me, or I'm I getting the vibe that rane performance vinyl dj feels like a hard copy implementation of virtual dj, considering most features vdj has
@strackete5441
@strackete5441 3 ай бұрын
I wish we get that platter design ( slightly bigger, of course) in a possible SC7000 & LC 7000. Pls inMusic , make it 🙏
@kradcliffe
@kradcliffe 5 ай бұрын
Interesting the faders can be easily accessed but what about the play / cue buttons. I've just spent 2 hours getting in to a MCX8000 with switch cleaner as they are buried under other boards and a hundred screws. Also In-Music's customer support is really dire which is also something to consider and never gets mentioned in reviews.
@rafalzejmo4372
@rafalzejmo4372 4 ай бұрын
sorry is this size of 7’ you said right? i see on web 8’5 hm🤷🏼‍♂️
@Jaycobson
@Jaycobson 5 ай бұрын
I dont think the filter resonance is adjutible in Rane Four??? Anyone know?
@djstuc
@djstuc 5 ай бұрын
Possibly in the settings, just a guess though.
@tetrahedron647
@tetrahedron647 Ай бұрын
we need a true rane standalone controller for unmatched mobile creativity!!!
@1080pmusicdjsllc
@1080pmusicdjsllc 5 ай бұрын
And TY
@therealdjblack29
@therealdjblack29 5 ай бұрын
Is it possible to use stem EQ on the RANE 72 MK2?
@mutluhandemirci74
@mutluhandemirci74 2 ай бұрын
Tnx👍
@randsons
@randsons 5 ай бұрын
when can this purchased and cost in uk
@mark213e
@mark213e 3 ай бұрын
I have a problem with the stems or actually all the pads on my right side>>>. any help???
@mark213e
@mark213e 3 ай бұрын
it just came in today
@jeebtheboss
@jeebtheboss 5 ай бұрын
Possible to control Traktor with it?
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
Very unlikely. I don’t think Traktor has ever supported any spinning platter controller besides their own NI one.
@FROZENMX
@FROZENMX 5 ай бұрын
Well first see if it is okay, after the Rane four lottery with bad and good units.
@kradcliffe
@kradcliffe 5 ай бұрын
In-Music at their best unfortunately.
@funky8breaksouljah
@funky8breaksouljah 4 ай бұрын
Tamagoshis.❤
@nmada3361
@nmada3361 5 ай бұрын
Amazing review. Best regards from Mexico 🇲🇽💥
@dreamdaycharleston
@dreamdaycharleston 5 ай бұрын
Can you change Mic FX to be Reverb? Instead of Echo
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
Not right now, but I know Rane are aware of that request. I suspect that’s why it’s called Mic FX not Mic Echo on the hardware label…
@dreamdaycharleston
@dreamdaycharleston 5 ай бұрын
@@Mojaxx I agree, probably will come! Would be awesome. Thanks for your review.
@1080pmusicdjsllc
@1080pmusicdjsllc 5 ай бұрын
Okay brother, I held off on the initial rane but did get the pioneer. While it's a benefit to have one mobile spinning platter controller to use on events is this worth it??
@reno5159
@reno5159 5 ай бұрын
Depends on if you scratch and how much you think you'll use stems!
@roymoxley2587
@roymoxley2587 5 ай бұрын
You can midi map stems on the rev 7
@blendmastertv9274
@blendmastertv9274 5 ай бұрын
I see you scratch master :-)
@DJkleptic
@DJkleptic 5 ай бұрын
Are the screen's on the platters oled?
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 5 ай бұрын
No, they aren’t, suspect two OLEDs of that size would blow up the price too much.
@eurodancedjsworld1362
@eurodancedjsworld1362 5 ай бұрын
Nah! But thanks! Still laptop required! We need stand alone controllers!
@Bassndrumstech
@Bassndrumstech 5 ай бұрын
Stand alone please. Laptops suck
@mattclay513
@mattclay513 5 ай бұрын
Is that stand alone, not required laptop ?
@JewelzFin
@JewelzFin 5 ай бұрын
No. You need a laptop.
@mattclay513
@mattclay513 5 ай бұрын
​@@JewelzFinthanks
@deeejay1054
@deeejay1054 5 ай бұрын
It's no Rev 7, thats the king of spinning platters controller.. and that mixer on the Rev is fire too! Nice try Rane tho..
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