Touhou 17 東方鬼形獣 ～ Wily Beast and Weakest Creature - Perfect Extra Stage (ExNNNN) - ReimuWolf

A clear of the Extra stage without deaths, bombs, roar breaks or hypers. The game does force a hyper on me at the end of the survival, but I stopped shooting until it ran out.
Extra stage doesn't seem that bad this time, though it's certainly harder than Touhou 16's Extra Stage. Mostly because of a bunch of difficulty spikes here and there. There is also the added difficulty of managing tokens, and there are a LOT of them in this stage.
Bullet visibility issues continue to persist. You have red bullets on a red background covered by red power items.
Spell 4 and 10 are the big run killers. Mostly because they are very RNG heavy and can easily screw you over if they feel like it. The two orb spam sections post-midboss are also somewhat scary.
All the nons are pretty easy, though they do force you to the bottom of the screen. Which makes getting rid of tokens somewhat troublesome.
Spell 1: Just random dodging.
Spell 2: This spell is easy if you stay at the bottom. Position yourself at the height of the bullets coming from the side and then dodge the rest.
Spell 3: This spell is a lot easier with Reimu since you'll always be damaging her with the homing.
Spell 4: Red bullets are random, blue are aimed around you. Ideally you want to go above the reds before blue happens, but the reds can sometimes be really in the way.
Spell 5: Lasers are random, but you can predict where they will go by looking at the tips of the lasers.
Spell 6: Just random dodging. The start is a good opportunity to get rid of tokens.
Spell 7: Purple rings that turn yellow and home in on you. The initial transition from purple to yellow can't hit you if you hug the walls. Reimu also has an advantage here.
Spell 8: Boss will charge you. How she moves is dependent on your position relative to her. I start it in the top-left and then always stay on her right to manipulate her. Can be made static.
Spell 9: Red stars are aimed and yellow stars are random. Not much to this spell.
Spell 10: I actually despise this spell. The RNG on this spell is very unstable and can easily wall you. The hitboxes on the jelly beans are also super huge. First wave is the biggest problem since it starts in the middle. You do have a second to see where the jelly beans are going to go though, so at least there's that. This spell actually reminds me a lot of the Dodonpachi stage 2-3 midboss.
Spell 11: Big red is aimed, blue are random. This one is very easy.
Spell 12: This survival is weird. The wisps will close in on you but you can destroy them. Destroying them makes them shoot revenge bullets and the revenge bullets get more intense the more wisps you destroy. Destroying around a fourth of them is probably the safest. I feel like this spell drags on for just a tiny little bit. It's also 98 seconds long.
Spell 13: This final isn't too bad since all the bullets are really slow. Last phase can get somewhat scary though.
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[@Ramash440]

Touhou 10 : "Ayayaya!" Touhou 17 :"Howhowhowdy, pardner!"

[@Ramash440]

@Turner Landry Nobody really cares about your scam, no.

[@Zamerux]

I knew her non-spells reminded me of the reporter bird lady!

[@miyakoyoshika100yearsago4]

@@Zamerux but her nonspells look nothing like reporter lady.

[@DJruslan4ic]

​@@miyakoyoshika100yearsago4 some of them even look like reisens

[@microintervals_of_dawn]

nobody: literally nobody: jaimers: NO DEATHS NO BOMBS NO ROAR BREAKS NO HYPERS EXTRA CLEAR ONLY TWO DAYS AFTER THE RELEASE OF THE GAME

[@Peppy10003]

Take that yatsume

[@averageradiantreplays7702]

I mean Touhou games aren't neccesarily hard

[@tennistheball9502]

@@averageradiantreplays7702 Sir, I must ask if you have ever played a touhou game. Because I've never heard someone say they weren't hard.

[@fantasyviolin5966]

Lol touhou is an easy game, you lose more than you win, heu wait...

[@reynantecastillanes2950]

@Aldebaran Ansel this unholy man plays on easy mode

[@cowboycirno8771]

Are you just gonna pass this commentary without saying Howdy?

[@lawgoonbergen2950]

Howdy

[@cassietripper2552]

Howdy!

[@AOGood]

Howdy partner! Yeehaw!

[@theeaglemaster388]

Howdy

[@GrayvyFellow]

Howdy!

[@adrianhendricks772]

GOOD GOD, JAIMERS!!! This game just got officially released *two days ago!* How did you do this run so fast?! 🤯 _Excellently Played!_

[@FATEoftheStoryverse]

Yeah, I was about to say the exact same thing. It's pretty impressive.

[@serraramayfield9230]

@@FATEoftheStoryverse He's world famous for a reason

[@mayonnaisejake7191]

Don't question the god

[@dustystorge]

Lunarians

[@joeda900]

Touhou fans be built differently

[@dragonboimmdvideos]

TEXAS AYA

[@tangerin_han]

4:01 I really love this spell

[@minaly22]

I really like the extra of this game. The music are both really good. The bullet pattern for the boss was really interesting to me, I didn't find them to be slow at first though. Seeing you mention the survival and last spell being pretty slow made me realize that most of her spells were ACTUALLY pretty slow. Maybe not TH7 kind of slow, but yeah.

[@mistercirno9647]

Can't wait for this to be Ultra-patched. That final spell is going to be Cave-level stupid.

[@dirtkiller23]

good old micrododging

[@BGDMusic]

there are ultra patches now

[@DQM243]

One of the achievements in the game is to capture Kutaka's last spellcard without being above her. I feel like Reimu Otter Hyper seems to be the only way to do it.

[@w.j.mckyle825]

It's possible to do it without hypers kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHzJiXZ6qZWboqs 1:49

[@borealis1255]

Youmu is really good at doing that in general.

[@inhsonlamvu5252]

I actually manage to capture that spell in Spell Practice with Marisa Otter

[@GrayvyFellow]

It's doable for all the characters, though without hypers Reimu in general has an easier time with MAYBE Youmu also if you can keep your head wrapped around her charge times

[@Iris_Descent]

I can get it consistently, a figure-8 pattern on the bottom works wonders.

[@prizmastarz742]

Quite unrelated, but did anyone got a bug where if you bombed during survival, you can escape the spell immediately, like how if you release season on Okina's survival

[@Mugenri]

YEP. The only survival card in the whole game and it's still broken.

[@gypsysprite4824]

i guessing both are ZUN fucking up with bomb invincibility 1: it seems like ZUN forgot to make it so the boss goes back to being invincible after the bomb invincibility runs out, or added bomb invincibility unnecessarily 2: also i think he forgot to give the spirit things invincibility frames, so bombing them away kills the spell

[@Charlie-pg5wy]

lol, surrely this is gonna be in another bug video

[@Vaypay]

Well, looks like history is somehow repeating itself...

[@Charlie-pg5wy]

@@Vaypay Tell Kiene to stop messing with Zun

[@Stroimex]

Did feel a lot of Pierrot of the Star-Spangled Banner at the start of this boss's theme partner

[@technicolormischief-maker5683]

taoism horse taoism horse

[@meenachandran4923]

Yes

[@nesing1667]

Impresive as usual.

[@IERServer]

I like how otters is completely useless against the last spell card lol. Also the "run killer" for me would be the 11th, the one with the huge red orb. Not because it's hard to dodge but because it's so damn HARD to deal damage to her! I can't keep up with dodging the blue bullets for too long and end up dying.

[@meenachandran4923]

Yeah is hard. What i just do is focus mode and stay under the boss and when the big bullet gets to you you'll have moved enough to dodge it. Just dodge. I've beaten that stage probably 20 times. I can help you if ya want.

[@SPIREDOCKLATERRA]

Strong utsuho vibes

[@diego_drakes6217]

Yes, I was waiting for it

[@fluury]

Yeehaw...

[@XziledBlog]

Awesome dude

[@baoq.b2287]

Nice gameplay ! I also notice you make a mistake in the title, the game is not a demo.

[@victorhugo-od9ek]

5:11 it's literally Utsuho's last spell but more chaotic, i love it

[@kinginheaven4598]

More easy

[@miyakoyoshika100yearsago4]

@@kinginheaven4598 agreed

[@miyakoyoshika100yearsago4]

Nice pfp

[@miyakoyoshika100yearsago4]

@@kinginheaven4598 Saki's fight is so easy lmao.

[@lemonapric]

@@miyakoyoshika100yearsago4 didn’t ZUN say that touhou 17 was supposed to be easy or smthn

[@victorhugo-od9ek]

1:13 what the hell is wrong with this visibility

[@user-yc2ik2kt2q]

*_This character is giving me old town road vibes and I’m not liking it_*

[@Ztarman3]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j53bg6yshJeMm80 like this?

[@perez_rales]

6:27 *Eyes bleeding*

[@randomspartanhoe4501]

No that spell is easy

[@anonymousanonymous8216]

i love the intro to her theme. the rest is... okay, but god, that intro. dootdootdoot also yeethaw, a texas touhou

[@PokemonHayley]

Same, I really like the intro. Something about it feels very ZUN-ish

[@TheRedfieldWay]

I love Saki's design, is she a yatagarasu? (hellraven) im getting major Utsuho Reiuji vibes from her. and her last spell reminds me Yukari's Bounded Field ''Border of life and Death'' spell

[@tangerin_han]

She is a kurokoma, which is a pegasus I heard.

[@TheRedfieldWay]

@@tangerin_han a Pegasus? that's unexpected.

[@tangerin_han]

Apparently, kurokoma is a pegasus which Prince Shoutoku(Miko) rides on. Yup I'm not sure either

[@jei1036]

This is me dodging responsibilities

[@meenachandran4923]

My run killer is the last few spells. The stage portion is manageable. First spell hurts. Second spell hurts. Most of it is manageable and most of my deaths are bushit deaths.

[@LimeCultivist]

Howdy

[@kennethfranco3052]

HOWDY PARTNER🐴

[@blendyblender5230]

My eyes hurt

[@icaru5010]

First time I shocked while she suddenly shoot wide fast bullet at spellcard 1 and automaticly press X Lol

[@jambon2730]

Am i the only one who can't beat the extra not because it's hard, or the pattern complex, but just because I can't see the bullet? Since most of them are red on a red background with red shots

[@pkkingcrimsonrequiem1332]

DoDonPachi TLB bullets?

[@FJTA]

Why do I feel like the bullet patterns are quite simple in this game's extra stage? I mean it's quite space-y for an extra stage I think *Saw the end part* Welp, that's the only cool one that I've saw so far

[@rsg5314]

Well this girl is like Junko, she is not interested in drawing beautiful spell cards she is more interested is see if are strong enough, but yes I felt this extra boss a little simple compared to raiko for example

[@johnn8848]

2:03 _orin flashbacks_

[@rycuda5146]

I really wanted to learn this stage too but the visuals drive me god damn nuts! Especially Kutaka's first spell is giving me a lot of trouble because the bullets blend in so well with the background. Also does anyone else find that "Extra Beasts Appeared" writing to be hella distractful?

[@tanjimmy125]

The bullets are distinctive enough for me to properly dodge, but I can see why people have complaints regarding their visibility. They essentially have the same or similar colors only in different shades, which makes the bullets stand out just enough. The dark bullets in Stage 4 and Extra as well as Keiki's background are the worst offenders in this regard, though you can just blast through these sections with an offensive hyper (Wolf, Eagle) and destroy the enemies before they can even shoot. "Extra Beasts Appeared" hasn't actually bothered me in the slightest, to be completely honest.

[@rycuda5146]

I'm trying to only use borders because hypers make the game a little too easy imo. But everytime my border runs out during a tight dodging section I just die 9/10 times because the Extra Best message pops up right in front of me. Idk maybe it's just me but I think it's extremely distracting.

[@tanjimmy125]

@@rycuda5146 Yeah, I can understand that. Especially otter makes dodging basically obsolete while active - I only use them on scoreruns. Though I feel that the later stages are on the harder side overall, and even as a long-time Normal player, I'm getting wrecked even with hypers. Maybe I've become rusty. It did become easier after some attempts, but Mayumi, oh lord Mayumi, she's absolutely curbstomping me. I don't even really pay attention most of the time to the post-hyper message. Sometimes the hyper is already over before I've even realized it. I guess everyone perceives stuff really differently. I mostly die by ramming into a bullet or enemy while trying to catch an animal token, which, considering the chaos of Stage 4, happens quite often to me :v

[@user-sx8ek8ph9u]

Aya's lost mom

[@suetchunglim4464]

Her theme is Prince Shotoku's Pegasus. So is Saki Miko's mount or what?

[@roslidarose9666]

Pretty much, yes

[@tangerin_han]

Where can you buy this?! Like, I'm SO in love with this game

[@akirakilluar]

Will available on Steam at September. Be patient.

[@randomspartanhoe4501]

It's free now, go to Moriya and you will have it

[@roslidarose9666]

@@randomspartanhoe4501 wasnt moriya only for games below 10 or im just mistakened

[@randomspartanhoe4501]

@@roslidarose9666 No, they have everything.

[@BuruKyu]

I almost beat it first attempt, i died in the last spellcard, havent had the same luck again

[@quangnguyen-nf1oo]

the background has skulls...yay

[@dualia-s74m]

It's this some kind of new touhou

[@serraramayfield9230]

The latest Touhou in fact

[@oosha2000]

The latest Touhou game for now is 19, go check it out.

[@s4juno693]

Is only me but why Saki skin color is like regular person and the rest of the cast have that pale color skin, I guess ZUN know all character cant have than same color of skin, also ZUN with the time his art style pulish more, I cant wait to see how look the the next characters.

[@meenachandran4923]

Yeah th18 will be excited

[@FairyZibbie]

I wish she would flap her wings in her sprite, like Flandre, for example

[@halogenzawgi9410]

I thought old town road was gonna play...

[@kandumemikan]

日本人いねえ・・・撃破した後の霊夢あらぶってて草

[@ineno1132]

are those Kutaka homing orbs supossed to be hell spirits, like Orin's?

[@evanseifert8858]

That seems likely. The spellcard's name is Bloody Battle "All-Spirit Oniwatari". Oniwatari is apparently the name of multiple shrines in Japans, but it literally means "oni's crossing". I guess it has to do with Kutaka's clerical work related to souls passing into the afterlife.

[@Xenoprism]

10:16 I was like AAAAAAAAHHHHH???????😱

[@Erik_Emer]

Why do I feel like final spell cards are now just about dodging layers of bullets? I miss stuff like Mokou's final spell card, where you had to move around.

[@ventusse]

Flandre = Dodging layers of bullets coming from different angles Ran = Dodging layers of bullets again, but this time using all bullet types Yukari = Moving around to dodge Mokou = Moving around to dodge, imperishable shooting = dodging layers of bullets Suwako = Dodging layers of bullets, now in a criss-cross pattern Koishi = Dodging layers of bullets that explode Nue = Dodging layers of bullets that rain down Mamizou = Dodging layers of bullets, kind of reminds me of Suwako's except adding something that explodes Raiko = Dodging layers of bullets that comes out in sync with the music Hecatia + Junko = Dodging layers of bullets from two sides Okina = Dodging layers of bullets as she moves around the field Basically, aside from Mokou (and Yukari to some extent), all final spell cards revolves around you dodging layers of bullets. Even the fighting games has you dodging layers of bullets as the final spell of their respective games.

[@Erik_Emer]

Yeah, it's annoying. I think I like Mokou's the best because even though it's a layer of bullets surrounding the player, what's really gets the player is the formation that left the bullets there, on top of what Mokou is shooting in the final portion. Okina's is pretty nice to me. I forgot about that. It's still layers, but the method is essentially moving around the map to avoid.

[@ventusse]

@@Erik_Emer to be honest though, I find Mokou's last spell to be the easiest, you only need to stay in the middle and move as little as possible. Her last word spellcard on the other hand, I still can't beat it.

[@Erik_Emer]

Same. It's essentially the "Fly Phoenix" spell, expect on cialis.

[@ventusse]

@david I honestly consider TH15 as one of the weaker ones, excluding the phantasmagoria games and spinoffs. The patterns were hard just because of pointdevice mode. In terms of story, TH16 wad actually nice for it gave some added backstory to the lore. TH17's story is also good because of the twist that there were technically three villains instead of just one mastermind. Also, the patterns were refreshing to look at, though I do miss Okina's gimmick of changing her final spellcard based on your season. I was hoping that this game would also implement that kind of system, given that the extra boss was related to the spirit animals.

[@dlwk1988]

i know i am fucked when a boss with wings showed up

[@gaelmargrace]

howdy?

[@Veranek]

Extra Boss is Cowboy Aya?? (I haven't played the game yet).

[@user-ew2xc6fy1m]

Nope, that's a Miko's personal pegasus.

[@Veranek]

@@user-ew2xc6fy1m Ah. Ok then.

[@M0D776]

@@user-ew2xc6fy1m I love how it sounds like a joke but its actually accurate

[@Nata-dv6od]

Touhou​17​ extraboss danmaku I​ think is​ same​ touhou16 extra boss

[@ShioHielo97]

Whats the botton to press to show your hitbox and slow down

[@ohwell2152]

Left shift !

[@evilotto2833]

Extra mode Bosses: Boss 1 Niwatari Kutaka Final Boss Kurokoma Saki

[@meenachandran4923]

Yes

[@AOGood]

Okay what the heck, how do you actually get the secret beast for this stage?

[@JustSomeoneWhoLikesBears]

There is no secret beast in this stage... What?

[@AOGood]

@@JustSomeoneWhoLikesBears I mean, there's supposed to be one

[@prizmastarz742]

@@AOGood 3rd spell capture with going above Kutaka

[@dirtyrat7181]

weird how some of saki’s and kutaka’s spells don’t have their spell card background, they just keep the normal stage background. anyone know if this was intentional?

[@GlowsLythos]

probably because the bullets aren't that dense.

[@dirtyrat7181]

Glows Lythos what does that have to do with the spell background?

[@amanojaku4252]

It's actually a really weird thing with extra stage midbosses, I think the trend started with Doremy

[@cody5481]

i think "follow me, unafraid" is intentional as the stage background itself speeds up to show that you are following behind her (unafraid)

[@kienphucnguyen2001]

Why do i even disappointed with her spell card tho?

[@Claus939]

10:21 *gets hyper* yeah, how about no

[@SinNombre-_-]

He was doing everything else perfect and then the boss fucks him by giving him an undodgeable hyper... lol

[@meenachandran4923]

@@SinNombre-_- and plus jaimers didnt shoot during the hyper

[@floral1092]

is it me or Saki looks like the easiest ex boss out there? i never managed to beat an ex stage but Saki's danmaku doesn't seem rocket science for skilled players

[@GlasHrvatske]

背景で弾が見づらいことこのうえなし

[@Peppy10003]

The otter is kinda useless on extra

[@Sp0okeh]

thats interesting. the last spell card timer doesnt start until you hit her.

[@ravendarksiders5493]

Aya norteña :v 3:40

[@BGDMusic]

why lee

[@Luke0193]

Raiko and Hecatia are worse imo. Sure she is hard, but those two are more difficult imo. Though I love Dark Pegasus, it's such a nice Soundtrack.

[@pingas469]

Um, i'm pretty sure that part at the beginning where you pick your shot type is edited

[@monicamastromauro2813]

Shit theres no mima, better luck next time

[@roslidarose9666]

yumemi pls

[@oosha2000]

Let's wait until Touhou 20 comes out.

[@Se--Se]

And then there's me, who can barely get to the boss

[@omniscientomnipresent5500]

When you are drunk and make a nearly impossible game as a joke but peoples do the secret level in max difficulty two days after the release.

[@mielium5619]

Technically not impossible. If you want impossible then why not just make a game that walls you everywhere you move?

[@omniscientomnipresent5500]

@@mielium5619 yeah but you can't release it, Zun was clearly drunk when he made thr characters send 100000 projectiles

[@mielium5619]

@@omniscientomnipresent5500 not only that. In this game, Im sure zun's like: "Hmm.... the back ground is red..... why not make the shottype red and the bullets they shoot also red..... hmmmm...."

[@Dol_bbx]

Ez

[@anonymous_idontreplylmaous72]

How dy

[@SodaSizzle]

Aya and utsuho ripoff

[@R.P.Genocraft]

She's a winged horse, so nope.

[@prizmastarz742]

She is a pegasus lol

[@SodaSizzle]

@Black Pug yeah thats utsuho's spell...also the wings and hair reminds me of aya...

[@SodaSizzle]

Oh and the fast attacks reminds me of aya

[@x-nimator9997]

Except it doesn't acts like aya does. In fact, aya goes even more faster.