Tour of Melbourne's new X'Trapolis 2.0 train

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Philip Mallis

Philip Mallis

Күн бұрын

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@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
CORRECTION: At 08:42 I meant to say "Frankston" and not "Cranbourne", sorry for the confusion!
@chappo91rulz
@chappo91rulz Жыл бұрын
Was just gonna comment and say don't you mean Frankston as Cranbourne will have the HCMTs
@movenlee9274
@movenlee9274 9 ай бұрын
I thought that HCMTs work on Franston line as well
@thenetheriteminecartzactnm
@thenetheriteminecartzactnm 5 ай бұрын
Good the X'Trapolis 2.0 will get better suspention and won't be another X'Trampoline like the X'Trapolis 100's.
@maxischew514
@maxischew514 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually quite surprised on how similar the train is to a HCMT rather then being a facelifted xtrap 100.
@davidunwin7868
@davidunwin7868 Жыл бұрын
Yeh, it looks like Alstom just copied Downer/Evolution Rail.
@mallenwho
@mallenwho Жыл бұрын
The Xtrap naming comes largely from the chassis and electrical/control infrastructure powering the train, similar to how so many different trams globally are Flexcity models. The similarities to the HCMT are largely in terms of digital displays and systems, and interior furniture. For the former, probably because they are literally using the same systems and you can see the packenham line loaded onto the screens in the video as a demo.
@jm56585
@jm56585 Жыл бұрын
feels more like a high capacity vlocity than a xtrap or hcmt imo
@GamerXe1
@GamerXe1 Жыл бұрын
The Xtroplis 100 will always be my favourite train
@adamiotime
@adamiotime Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with the HCMT is the harshness of the lighting - i despise that overly intense cold blue lighting. I would much rather a warmer colour, as well as lighting that dims slightly later in the evening
@mark_22222
@mark_22222 Жыл бұрын
Wow that certainly is a first world problem. 😂😅
@xiuwenlee5208
@xiuwenlee5208 Жыл бұрын
@@mark_22222 The train is servicing the first world, is it not??
@JoshwantsmaccasCharts
@JoshwantsmaccasCharts Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the harshness but that preference I guess, I very much agree that it should dim a bit at night, it's a bit bright at midnight if I am honest. Should be like what buses do (tho less extreme)
@bee_anchor
@bee_anchor 4 ай бұрын
I agree but unfortunately I would rather ensure the horrible, harsh light at night than the unsafe feeling I would get in dimmer light as a female at night
@pulsecodemodulated
@pulsecodemodulated Жыл бұрын
The problem with the audio is that it's not just the volume but also the clarity. I was shocked the first time I rode one of the new HCMT's and couldn't understand a word of the announcements, which had all the fidelity of a 1980's Hungry Jacks drive-thru intercom.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right, hopefully the audio on these new trains learns from these lessons
@Shimmy02
@Shimmy02 5 ай бұрын
It seems that they have converted the audio files to a low bitrate codec to save on file space and maybe cost but really it's not practical and sounds horrid onboard. Funny how the older stuff sounds better than the newer stuff. Going backwards Metro!
@cliffleigh7450
@cliffleigh7450 Жыл бұрын
So they now have air suspension - which was introduced in 1972 on the Hitachi trains! The existing Xtraps were a backwood step and this just brings them up to date.
@clawz90
@clawz90 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I did love driving xtraps specially when they first came out, so much power, so much braking ability, always started running early cause they were so fast!
@DCCXXjay
@DCCXXjay Жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always Phil, totally agree with the display issues! Personally I'm not the biggest fan of the horizontal seats because they make me motion sick, but more capacity is always welcome
@NewFalconerRecords
@NewFalconerRecords Жыл бұрын
Looks good (with a few tweaks I'm sure it'll be great). It always fascinates me though, that no matter how slick the visuals are and how smooth the ride is, the announcements coming through the speakers often still sound like a distorted bee talking through a tin can.
@demonindenim
@demonindenim Жыл бұрын
ugh, yeah. i have to cover my ears, it's that loud and harsh every time. and i've noticed that the louder it is, the more inaudible it is.
@ThisIsARubbishName
@ThisIsARubbishName Жыл бұрын
That's like the fourth person who I follow who got to have a look! Nice. The seats...I could take or leave. They're alright for short trips, but not from the end of the line! And I'm happy they're supplying jobs for the Ballarat community. E: ooh yeah, the front PID. Needs work.
@mitchul
@mitchul Жыл бұрын
I have the same issue as with you with the destination displays on this. Although I'm hoping they're at least better than the ones that are on the HCMT. The slow fade between screens on the HCMT drives me mad. I think the seats in the X'Trap 2 are the same that went into those newer generation Vlocity units, just without the arm rest or tray table.
@shaunclarke94
@shaunclarke94 Жыл бұрын
The slow fade is absolutely terrible. It effectively adds dead time to the display where you can't read anything from it. Even worse are the trams with the Hanover desto's which take like 5 seconds between page changes so it takes ages to read the full message.
@mitchul
@mitchul Жыл бұрын
@@shaunclarke94 Yeah those Hanover ones on the trams are terrible. I'm fairly certain the Hanover software allows the user to speed up the changing of the pages.
@shaunclarke94
@shaunclarke94 Жыл бұрын
@@mitchul of course it does. There's plenty of flexibility and options but they haven't touched it ever since it was deployed.
@geesedonthonk5301
@geesedonthonk5301 Жыл бұрын
great video! Really glad to see the thought that's gone into the accessibility of the trains.
@LouKodge
@LouKodge Жыл бұрын
I just love your videos Phillip, watched every one since the first, All very watchable, informative and VERY well researched.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, glad you like them!
@Merri-bekRailfan
@Merri-bekRailfan 2 ай бұрын
This new train looks really promising, although the Comeng will always have more character IMO.
@user-fed-yum
@user-fed-yum Жыл бұрын
Those seats look super comfy, as long as you don't weigh any more than 45kg!
@emiliobraulio
@emiliobraulio Жыл бұрын
Disappointing if true. The Comengs have both thick seats and airbag suspension. The X’Trapolis 100 has thick seats but springs. The Siemens, HCMT and it looks like the X’Trapolis 2 will have airbag suspension but thin seats.
@JackStavris
@JackStavris Жыл бұрын
They are not comfy, they're ripped straight out of the refreshed Vlocity sets and are hard as a rock. The backrest is tall which is deceving, but the bottoms are not padded well and make for an uncomfertable trip, even a short one.
@kaelwd
@kaelwd Жыл бұрын
And as a tallish person the "headrest" looks like it would just push my upper back forward and force me to hunch.
@nickhiscock8948
@nickhiscock8948 Жыл бұрын
The seats also look narrower than other trains in Melbourne
@andrewmcphee8965
@andrewmcphee8965 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, seems like a step forward, thanks Philip.
@marnijay2486
@marnijay2486 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the peek into the future Philip. Gosh it would be interesting to learn what feedback they get from all of you previewers. Great video as always. 👍
@nevmcc3884
@nevmcc3884 Жыл бұрын
🎉🎉I'm glad somebody is doing what you do. Please come to Brisbane and critique our "metro" bus
@adrianjackson1586
@adrianjackson1586 Жыл бұрын
Excellent summary. And thanks for getting some pics of my bike, I totally forgot!
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
Thank you, and nice to see you there too!
@mce_AU
@mce_AU Жыл бұрын
Good work Philip in spite of the GoPro saga. Hopefully some of the feedback people are providing will be actioned.
@carboyau
@carboyau Жыл бұрын
Doors between carriages are fire doors and will be open during normal operation.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
Ah that makes sense, thanks very much for claryfying!
@gribbler1695
@gribbler1695 Жыл бұрын
Implying that they are triggered to close when fire is detected.
@carboyau
@carboyau Жыл бұрын
@@gribbler1695 Yes. They will activate in response to significant smoke, but can be pulled open by anyone fleeing and will simply auto close behind you to reduce spread.
@hawthornvalley
@hawthornvalley Жыл бұрын
At 6:18 the panel with all the icons on the display, I noticed that the carriage numbers - which are similar to the HCMT carriages - were 8011, 8012, 8014, 8015 8017 & 8018. It looks like they have made provision to extend to 8 carriages by the addition of 8013 & 8016, like the HCMT can be extended to 10 carriages.
@Kcritchett87
@Kcritchett87 Ай бұрын
It looks like transperth’s C-series train, which is already on our Perth network. The seats and PID’s look a lot alike. Plus it’s in the same family as the c-series.
@Gauger1212
@Gauger1212 Ай бұрын
07:02 WOAH Adelaide was used as a good example for something train related 🤯. Heck the BELAIR LINE was used as a good example! (not directly but it is the line with the most bikes and the same train class that he mentioned)
@alexdelaney1975
@alexdelaney1975 Жыл бұрын
Overall sounds like a big upgrade! However, I'm concerned about those seats if the similar on the high capacity VLocity is anything to go by.
@felixzhu1618
@felixzhu1618 11 ай бұрын
It is good to see these new trains in Melbourne that replace the old ones. Also to mentioned these also look pretty like the Perth train C series, which are also coming soon. The seat layout, seat design and internal passage information display is almost the same.
@ChazSweatshirt
@ChazSweatshirt Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another fab video, Philip! I actually really like the exterior design of these, and the MTM blue looks great with the contrast of the yellow highlights. The fab accessibility features are a big win too! My main worry after seeing this though is how similar internally they are to the HCMTs. I don't really understand the desire for high-backed seats in high capacity trains like these - it feels a bit too cocooned and makes having to sit next to someone feel a bit too... personal, idk. I think the seats you find in a current X'trap, Comeng or Siemens are actually pretty great for short and longer journeys alike, and help open up the carriage a bit - these trains have the widest corridor of any train on the network yet appear more cramped than the current X'trap. And all the seats running parallel along the trains really are too close - reminds me of when there are bunch of urinals too close together and every second one remains squeaky clean lol. But worst of all. Above anything else. Are the door 'buttons'. If they're the same as those on the HCMTs like I fear they are from these pictures, I'd rather not have the train at all. Just give. us. a. button. Not everything needs to be touch sensitive (as we're now learning from the last few years' craze of touch screens and buttons in car interiors). In a perfect world, I'd drag Comeng back from the bottom of the ocean and have a Comeng 2.0, but I guess we can't have everything! Can you tell I love Comeng?
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I also love the Comeng trains, but I also understand why they need to be phased out. Lots to learn from them as you say.
@Low760
@Low760 Жыл бұрын
Low back seats suck for tall people, I've been been that comfortable in them.
@pep-167
@pep-167 Жыл бұрын
@@Low760 yeah but high back seats suck for shorter people
@demonindenim
@demonindenim Жыл бұрын
@@pep-167 how so?
@pep-167
@pep-167 Жыл бұрын
@@demonindenim like said in the video it feels too enclosed, and i tend to hit the back of my head on the metal on top of the seat
@countrabricksbuildcraze8916
@countrabricksbuildcraze8916 Жыл бұрын
Great. Thanks for showing me this I so love to build Melbourne train. Outta Lego for my Lego City. .😊
@SpellBinder2
@SpellBinder2 Жыл бұрын
I also got lucky to visit this beautiful train. Hoping to see it soon in action.
@tonytan6826
@tonytan6826 Жыл бұрын
Melbourne loves grey in their buildings and train exteriors. It really puts me off. I prefer the current Xtrapolis blue and yellow
@Iron_of_man
@Iron_of_man 7 ай бұрын
Gives me QLD NGR vibes. Pretty trains with great features, but they have some of the same issues when it comes to comfort for example.
@Well_She
@Well_She Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say it - I think I love the exterior design. Front of the cabin looks kind of like Iron Man’s helmet 😂
@Rheilffordd
@Rheilffordd Жыл бұрын
Great video and analysis Phil! It’s great to see how open the manufacturer and Government department were in surveying and consulting with all the user groups and surveying their needs.
@rowancucanic
@rowancucanic 11 ай бұрын
Unsurprising to see the Werribee line being shafted again
@Samuel_kalam
@Samuel_kalam Жыл бұрын
If the Seimens nexus and Xtrapolis 100 had a baby
@dannylukic6536
@dannylukic6536 Жыл бұрын
I personally don't think we need to (or should be overly accommodating to) bicycles on suburban trains. In peak hour they should be banned, and off peak it's almost a matter of irrelevancy. Overall I think these X2s are feature packed but not overly fancy. Decent buy, Melbourne! Great video mate
@hush6149
@hush6149 3 ай бұрын
Personally I still think small sets that have cabs with walkways in the centre (like on older Japanese EMUs) are a good idea. That way you can shorten or extend sets when needed and still go through the entire train... Also they look cool lol
@TheHandThatBites
@TheHandThatBites Жыл бұрын
Nice to see they let you in.
@thelionking219
@thelionking219 Жыл бұрын
They are getting around 25 sets of X’trapolis 2.0 trains on the Upfield, Craigieburn and Frankston Lines by 2026, replacing the Comeng Trains.
@Techno-Universal
@Techno-Universal Жыл бұрын
The doors between the carriages are most likely fire safety doors like on the HCMTs so they will be open during normal operation but will close in the event of a fire! :)
@Alexander_Dunn
@Alexander_Dunn Жыл бұрын
These seats and windows remind me of the vlocity! Some other aspects also remind me of the HCMT. However I think in order to get a wider aisle it looks like they compromised seat width which I don't think is a good trade off.
@itechcircle9410
@itechcircle9410 Жыл бұрын
*comprimised
@Alexander_Dunn
@Alexander_Dunn Жыл бұрын
@@itechcircle9410 mb, also I think it's actually "compromised"
@kierannelson2581
@kierannelson2581 Жыл бұрын
This is what I don't get. If the aisle is wide enough for a pram or wheelchair, why compromise on seat width. I also don't understand the trend of individual seats rather than a bench style seat.
@Alexander_Dunn
@Alexander_Dunn Жыл бұрын
@@kierannelson2581 exactly.
@itechcircle9410
@itechcircle9410 Жыл бұрын
@@Alexander_Dunn Oh ok 😅
@JackStavris
@JackStavris Жыл бұрын
The seats look like the first refresh of the Vlocity, which are very hard and thin compared to their original design. Honestly I'd prefer HCMT style seats or even current X'Trap seats, both are softer than those refresh Vlocity seats. I like the interoir displays though, they look identical to the HCMT ones which are really good, especially when you arrive at a station and it tells you what door to use, good for if you're not familliar with a station you might need to get off at or if there's a last minute platform change. Also I hope that they fix the horn...sorry I mean whistle. The current X'Trap whistle, and as a result the HCMT one too is super obnoxious. I think going to a multi-tone one like the old Commeng one or even a Vlocity style one would be better. I don't need the ear rape when the train departs.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS Жыл бұрын
I found this very interesting, Thank you
@ແມ໋ດຢູ່ລາວ
@ແມ໋ດຢູ່ລາວ Жыл бұрын
I wonder why they didn’t take inspiration from Copenhagen’s S-Tog city train for the in carriage bicycle zone? The Danes use a nifty spring-clasp thingy that does a good job of holding bikes upright & perpendicular from the carriage wall. This design holds a lot of bikes and works well. I can only assume there isn’t enough width in these new Victorian trains to permit such an option.
@RhodeysRacing
@RhodeysRacing Жыл бұрын
I hope they sound better than the HCMT's on the move. But, the HCMT's and now these are setting me up to have a negative outlook on where our train fleet is heading. I can look back at Hitachi, Comeng, Xtrap, and even Siemens trips, and remember them in a positive light and can recall some character to each of the trains. My sole trip on a HCMT so far, done solely so that I could then say I had done one, is one I remember in a negative light, and their sterile nature has me preferring trips on other trains if and when possible.
@ianmontgomery7534
@ianmontgomery7534 Жыл бұрын
I am not a regular train user but I quite enjoy trips on the HCMT's.
@thedeeman2794
@thedeeman2794 Жыл бұрын
Looks exciting. Shame I wasn’t offered to see the mock up. Most of the design looks great despite the compromises and I can’t wait to see them on the Melbourne network. My only greavence is that they won’t be on the Belgrave and Lilydale line, the first home of the x’trapolis but the north-south corridor desperately needs new equipment and there is nothing stopping the government ordering more of these trains like they did before.
@mark123655
@mark123655 Жыл бұрын
Interesting on the pasenger sensor. My understanding is Sydneys sensors work by a weight sensor on the suspension.
@Emily-the_funny_guys
@Emily-the_funny_guys Жыл бұрын
Awesome to see it dude
@fauzirahman3285
@fauzirahman3285 Жыл бұрын
I hope they end up using the destination displays similar to that of the HCMT and the upgraded Siemens, those are much clearer. Also the passenger counters look good. Hoping eventually we have carriage estimations like that in other places. The doors too look nice and wide, and I hope we start going with consistent door positioning for future PSDs.
@Gman333Xferrari
@Gman333Xferrari Жыл бұрын
The seats look more comfy than on HCMTs
@TheVeryTC
@TheVeryTC 8 ай бұрын
For some reason, these trains just remind me so much of MTR’s SP1950s on the Tuen Ma Line. 🤔
@BrettWilliamson
@BrettWilliamson 11 ай бұрын
It's a nice looking train. As a Sydneysider (and I am not looking for the 'who is best' argument here), we admire the Melbourne Tram network and wish we still had ours. But I will say, we don't admire your train network much. The trains aren't as nice as what we have and the destination boards and announcements seem a lot older. This train looks very modern though. I like it.
@betula2137
@betula2137 Жыл бұрын
This does indeed look nicer than the renders, kind of with a similar face to some of the light rail-style vehicles. But big and blue. Accessibility is always a great mark ahead, and continuing that through to surrounding infrastructure to make it easier further needs to happen too. If Victoria sells any trains second-hand, can we please get them in Tasmania 😶
@funkybanana0138
@funkybanana0138 4 ай бұрын
This is awesome to see, I'm super curious as to what the whistle/horn will sound like, is it the same as the HCMT trains? As someone who lives near a line with X'traps I'm interested to know what the new sounds will be like!
@SirDragonClaw
@SirDragonClaw 11 ай бұрын
There really needs to be signage for scooters too, so frequently I get told I can't have my small scooter on a train even though it's 5 times smaller than a bike... It would be trivial to have dedicated areas for scooters that take up about 25 times less space than a bike since scooters could fold up under seats if some tiny provisions was made for it.
@PoketamaVideos
@PoketamaVideos Жыл бұрын
I hope they keep the doors closed between carriages. One thing coming from Sydney was if someone was being a nuisance or a danger you could go up or downstairs to get away. Here you can be stuck with them.
@amandajane8227
@amandajane8227 Жыл бұрын
It seems strange that they are going with narrower seating when people are getting so much fatter that funeral homes and hospitals are making accommodation for the change in average size.
@PartTwoable
@PartTwoable Жыл бұрын
I think the font on the external displays is fine, the display just needs to be bigger to fill available space. It's bold enough. Surely they could get some better running lights than the circles embedded in the top. This would clear up space for a full width display. Unintegrated lights give me a 1980s car vibe
@SamTowne2002
@SamTowne2002 Жыл бұрын
that train looks like the mix of X'Trapolis and Siemens train
@Anonymoususer_8823
@Anonymoususer_8823 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps Alstom could build 5-Car trains in the UK to operate on busier suburban services such as in South London with Southern using 5-Car trains on their suburban routes. And also new 5-Car trains for Scotrail to be used on the Glasgow suburban routes and to replace the Class 318 and Class 320.
@lobhabbrea
@lobhabbrea Жыл бұрын
Cant wait to tag this
@willdunn8846
@willdunn8846 Жыл бұрын
I hope these have a pleasant whistle
@1troyske
@1troyske Жыл бұрын
why does it feel like the western suburbs never gets the new trains, one ideas?
@paulmeilak9946
@paulmeilak9946 11 ай бұрын
check out how the Canberra light rail handles bike storage. I have found it quite good to secure a bike during a trip. no strap is needed.
@elcasho
@elcasho Жыл бұрын
Good review!
@normandiebryant6989
@normandiebryant6989 Жыл бұрын
Do these new XTrapolis trains have doors in the same position as the new HCMTs? I assume that, now we're going to have platform-doors, that all future rolling stock will need standardised door positions and carriage-lengths, or is there a magic solution for this?
@sswel1
@sswel1 Жыл бұрын
No car body and door distance are different. Xtrap2 will not be running in the metro tunnel where the platform doors are. MT will only be serviced by HCMTs
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
Good question! They looked to be in the same spot. Might be worth emailing the project team to ask: xt2trains@transport.vic.gov.au
@footyfan101ful
@footyfan101ful Жыл бұрын
I hope these trains come to the Frankston/Sandringham lines.
@Megahowler82
@Megahowler82 Жыл бұрын
They are... The information was wrong.. These are earmarked for Craigieburn, Upfield, Frankston.. they won't be on the Cranbourne line as stated
@that_kca
@that_kca Жыл бұрын
@@Megahowler82 "Craigieburn, Upfield" Why do i expect a reprioritisation of where they go before they even get here
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I did make a mistake, I meant to say 'Frankston' and not 'Cranbourne'. no plans announced for the Sandringham Line as yet.
@davidstevens4388
@davidstevens4388 10 ай бұрын
be good when im come to visit melbourne one day to get on board this new train when it comes in service next year in 2024 nice and new
@brightenupcc
@brightenupcc Жыл бұрын
This looks and feels like 10 yrs ago
@PaulNoake
@PaulNoake Жыл бұрын
And the fitting out will be done by Alstom here in Ballarat Victoria
@thunderturbine8860
@thunderturbine8860 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video man. Got a question for you, will these trains be operating on the Mernda/Hurstbridge lines? Also? Any idea if Siemens is making another train for Melbourne? I hope they will be
@sylviaelse5086
@sylviaelse5086 Жыл бұрын
The first time I went on a train one can walk the length of without sliding doors between carriages, a gust of wind blew entire length, and a man sitting opposite lost his hat. Also, this design means there's nowhere to retreat to if there's a fire in one carriage - the smoke will fill the entire train.
@dylanshadowstar9779
@dylanshadowstar9779 Жыл бұрын
Luckily these ones seem to have doors between carts that can shut in an emergency
@bryan3550
@bryan3550 Жыл бұрын
Noice! I wonder about the relationship between the roll-out of these gems and the electorates they'll serve... Unfortunately I live in a Safe Seat... 🥴
@Techno-Universal
@Techno-Universal Жыл бұрын
6:23 This probably also uses the CCTV microphones to measure the decibel levels in each carriage! :)
@aussietaipan8700
@aussietaipan8700 Жыл бұрын
I catch the train daily for work in the city. On the way home I'm in the front carriage at the front most doors. Bikes should not be in this area, but I see them daily in the front of the train. I do wish this was policed more as I often see issues with bikes and challenged people and their mobility transport.
@brotherfranciz
@brotherfranciz Жыл бұрын
Why can't cyclists and people with a disability be in this area? There is literally no reason other than it being a made up rule by the operator. I also question the legality of such fines. In the first instance, disability is always an afterthought - why should people with a disability only be confined to the front carriage, and also have to rely on someone else to operate a ramp? Design your trains better so that there is level access and no gap. It's really not that hard and also makes it safer for all users (e.g. children falling through the gap). It's a similar situation with cyclists who are also always an afterthought - if you're threatening to fine cyclists, why is there no fine for passengers occupying the dedicated bicycle parking area? Oh that's right, because there is no parking area for bicycles anywhere on the carriage! Even the section at the end of the last carriage (where cyclists "are supposed to park") only has wheelchair symbols and no bike symbol. Your view is the wrong way to look at public transport systems. It should be inclusive and cater for all users; not be discriminatory against certain groups of users.
@reubenmorison8149
@reubenmorison8149 Ай бұрын
My issue is always seat comfort, as it affects all passengers.
@katepacker1182
@katepacker1182 11 ай бұрын
the two doors on the siemens trains were intentional
@jordanwardle11
@jordanwardle11 Жыл бұрын
the only issues i see about having bike spots taking up seats are the fights. people already hate bikes as it is and now you want to take up more room for bikes? the current trains i feel are perfect for bikes, so long as you are actually responsible and dont leave it
@brotherfranciz
@brotherfranciz Жыл бұрын
I actually have the opposite feeling. People have issues with cyclists "not parking where they're supposed to". Mate, I would park in the cyclist space if it wasn't already occupied by passengers! I think there should be two wall brackets at the end of every carriage section (i.e. one on the left side and the other on the right side) near the doors with the bikes stored upright with the front wheel on the wall bracket and rear wheel on the floor, which would save space and keep bikes out of the central parts of each carriage. Platforms also need to be marked so cyclists know where to wait and not have to run through a mass of disembarking passengers. Cyclists are always an afterthought. Nothing new here...
@Qr_snaps
@Qr_snaps Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the new generation rolling stock (NGR)in Queensland
@generationgamers3854
@generationgamers3854 Жыл бұрын
8:45 the Cranbourne line already has em, I believe instead it’s the Frankston.
@hardcorehakon
@hardcorehakon Жыл бұрын
Hey can you do a vid on the “F9” freeway, it really peaks my interest, as it looks like it would go past my family home in Montrose.
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
I'll add it to the list of possible topics, thanks for the suggestion
@LY-jm9vu
@LY-jm9vu Жыл бұрын
It looks like a lot of seating has been removed when compared to existing rolling stock. Is that correct?
@philipmallis
@philipmallis Жыл бұрын
I didn't count the seats, but it does seem like there are slightly fewer seats overall. However, the overall capacity of the carriages is higher than the current X'trapolis trains.
@gman83090
@gman83090 Жыл бұрын
I hope we get these new trains on the Belgrave and Lilydale lines and the Alamein and the Glen Waverley lines
@dylanshadowstar9779
@dylanshadowstar9779 Жыл бұрын
Currently the plan is for these to replace comengs and likely be on upfield, Craigieburn and Frankston lines. That may change if more end up being built.
@jetnavigator
@jetnavigator Жыл бұрын
With a name like that, you just know people are going to get trapped in them...
@johnblood3367
@johnblood3367 Жыл бұрын
Look great
@maxxxy910
@maxxxy910 11 ай бұрын
Siemens are goated by far.
@pakenhamtrain
@pakenhamtrain Жыл бұрын
The dynamic displays on the HCMTs don't have a tab along with it being greyed out when a station is being skipped. I'd imagine a small software tweak and it should be the same.
@thegreypenguin5097
@thegreypenguin5097 Жыл бұрын
6:15 the emergency help point should probably *say* the carriage number
@matt07a74
@matt07a74 Жыл бұрын
Cool video. Thanks. :)
@jdillon8360
@jdillon8360 Жыл бұрын
Good video as always Philip. Anything is better than the awful Siemens trains, but yes those sets don't look the most comfortable. I like the exterior though, the blue, yellow and silver is nice and modern.
@Roadrunnerz45
@Roadrunnerz45 Жыл бұрын
we should be able to get a perfect train by now. with all the experience and knowledge there is no reason why these trains should not be the best.
@lachlanmillsteed6825
@lachlanmillsteed6825 Жыл бұрын
Looks nice. Hopefully they make the seats a little wider and more comfortable. Would be great if they updated the current X’Trap as it’s looking very tired inside!
@itechcircle9410
@itechcircle9410 Жыл бұрын
Yes the X'Trap 100s are at the perfect age for a major refurbishment.
@adrianjackson1586
@adrianjackson1586 Жыл бұрын
Don’t hold your breath for wider seats. I sat down beside someone and it was very cozy. Because they’ve widened the aisle for accessibility devices, the seats are narrower.
@SuperLloyd84
@SuperLloyd84 Жыл бұрын
The Siemens trains are so much better. One fewer door means more seats per carriage. The seats are comfier, and the walls of the carriage don't fold in at the bottom so you have more foot room. They also don't have as many seats facing each other (why anyone would want to share foot space and stare right at another passenger is beyond me). They're also quieter inside thanks to better insulation, and the ride quality is smoother. We should just order more of them.
@Speaker_Network
@Speaker_Network 9 ай бұрын
Hey phillip. I tried the HCMT trains. And l think that the seats are uncomfortable for long rides. I perfer the older trains. I find the seating on the old trains much more comfortable with the window lowered. So l can rest my arm long on the window seat
@peterbrennan2880
@peterbrennan2880 11 ай бұрын
I recall hearing somewhere that these newer trains are driverless capable, and I believe there was a recent industrial action partly around this. Has there been any comments on this function?
@philipmallis
@philipmallis 11 ай бұрын
Not that I'm aware of, sorry
@minecraftWithDanielD
@minecraftWithDanielD Жыл бұрын
Finally, fresh new trains for the frankston line. I was quite disappointed when Cranbourne and Dandenong got those new models a few years ago. That said, neither that model or this one seem to have good seating. This looks way too cramped in addition to those hard looking seats. But I also won’t be travelling as much now that I’m no longer a student coming all the way from Frankston, so I guess it’s a moot point for me to make. Now if only they could fix up Caulfield station....hate that one
@gzyd
@gzyd Жыл бұрын
Very jealous Philip!
@morantaylor
@morantaylor Жыл бұрын
Based on the demonstrated line information displays we wont be riding these on the northern group lines until 2080..... I assume the Comengs will continue on :(
@Osamabinladen69528
@Osamabinladen69528 Жыл бұрын
I kinda feel like Sandringham line is being left out from all the projects such as level crossing removal also there’s no plans for new trains to run on the Sandringham line like HCMT, x,trapilos 2.0 (idk how to spell x,trapilos lol)
@dylanshadowstar9779
@dylanshadowstar9779 Жыл бұрын
I imagine in the next few years the Sandringham line will be entirely seimans trains as the comengs is best phased out
@captmulch1
@captmulch1 Жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@caleb1016
@caleb1016 Жыл бұрын
I would still prefer if the headlight of the train confined more to its silhouette. Thy just seem haphazardly placed in the bottom corners of the front. Maybe something similar to the HCMTs or even the E2 class trams.
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