Toward a Psychological Understanding of Lee Oswald, Assassin

[@SixthFloorMuseum]

Anyone using hate speech in the comments will be banned immediately. Keep it civil.

[@charlesloucks1840]

Define "Hate Speech" please!

[@desoztopdesoz2456]

@@charlesloucks1840 its any speech they do not like , typical leftist bs, leftists like threats

[@moderoy]

@Desoz Whatever: It's a good thing they don't ban hopeless stupidity. You'd be silenced forever.

[@stevea2488]

Oswald was framed and your museum is pushing lies!! Is that hateful speech ?

[@moderoy]

@@stevea2488 No, it's just idiotic speech.

[@nicknewman7848]

If Lee thought he would get glory or admiration why didn't he admit it? He denied it, said he was the fall guy then got murdered himself before any opportunity to elaborate. That's more than a little bit fishy.

[@charlesloucks1840]

The exact play book was demonstrated by Alexander the Great in around 350 B.C.! King Phillip was Alexander's father and the king was planning on divorcing Alexander's Mother and taking a new wife. Around this time at an event attended by the King's family, an assassin emerged from the crowd and killed the King. The assassin in turn was killed by security and Alexander seized on the situation to proclaim himself King of Macedonia and the rest is history.

[@watermelonlalala]

Oswald would have had to escape to a communist country to get admiration. If he wanted to be a notorious prisoner, he could have admitted that he did it to the cop in the lunchroom. Nothing really adds up, that is why this goes on and on.

[@apointofinterest8574]

@Nick Newman: For the answer to your question, study the case of Charles Manson, who also never admitted his crimes. Yet Charlie did bask in all the attention and perverse adulation, once remarking that he was the most famous person on the planet. Morale: If the attention fits, you don't need to admit.

[@nicknewman7848]

@@apointofinterest8574 Your use of Manson as an example is just what it is. An example of someone who fits a particular profile. You think Oswald killed Kennedy because his ambition was to be a curiosity? You think Manson had the same ambition? Manson went to jail because he was out of his fucking mind, not because of any pre-meditated ambition. Sure he wanted to be famous but he was totally insane. Comparing the two personalities from the motivational point of view is a waste of time. Sorry.

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@nicknewman7848 Manson & Oswald are the same with regards to both being cagey, wily... smirking criminals who are careful never to admit the deed they obviously had done, though nonetheless enjoy the attention it brought them. (This has nothing to do with insanity or the motivation for the crime.) Don't get your tightie whities in a knot, for the comparison ends there.

[@MartinMcAvoy]

I enjoyed listtening to what Dr. Riddle had to say about the psychology of Oswald. In many of the conspiracy theories, he is just a bit part player but the more a person focusses on his upbringing and character, a clearer picture can be concluded about why he became a murderer. Gerald Posner's book 'Case Closed', spends several chapters on both Oswald and Ruby. After reading that book, there was no doubt in my mind that they both operated as lone assassins and no wider conspiracy is required to explain what happened.

[@davidmoss4280]

A pretty good assessment of the inner demons of Oswald, he was certainly not ordinary, he clearly showed many people around him signs of insecurity, instability, aggression , superiority , offhanded behaviour, and found it hard to get along with anyone.

[@deborahdean768]

I lived in Dallas briefly when I was in the eighth grade, two years after the assassination. I remember that Marguerite Oswald, Lee Harvey's mother, was frequently shown on the local nightly Dallas news shows where she repeatedly insisted that Lee was innocent and that he had worked for the government. I totally dismissed her as a little crazy at the time, but so much additional research has come out since then,; now I believe that she was at least correct about Lee working for the government because of other documents that have been revealed. Only now do I fully appreciate that I was able to witness Marguerite's bold statements in real time, striking pieces of history taken more seriously in our current era, perhaps. Thank you for this great presentation.

[@columbmurray]

Yes ,the secret service would employ a trustworthy dishonourable discharge. 🤔

[@CPAndy-x5x]

She was an attention-seeking crazy her while life. She couldn't accept that her son (whom she abandoned) did this. She sought attention by being controversial.

[@rongenung]

It is interesting that Lee Oswald, like many disaffected youths, choose to pick up and study philosophy and political economics of the opposing system---without putting the same effort into studying the philosophy of their own native cultures well.

[@pedenmk]

I'm just a nobody. My opinion means nothing but I don't think he fired any shots that horrific day.

[@bobtaylor170]

Read "Reclaiming History," by Vincent Bugliosi.

[@columbmurray]

You're quite right. About yourself.

[@znentitan4032]

Trying to figure out Lee Oswald is like being blindfolded in a house of mirrors.

[@vernpascal1531]

@Eduardo Venegas Yup. The most popular Lone nut in History with shady characters connected to both as you say.

[@lunarmodule6419]

It's not about Ozzy anyway. He didn't do it.

[@432b86ed]

@@davis7099 *"We cannot except that such an ordinary person could have altered history."* I would gladly accept _that_ rather than it being a coup within our own government that they've lied through their teeth about for the last 50 years. But I'm weird like that.

[@432b86ed]

@@davis7099 said *_"We project many things from many angles at a .... loser. We cannot except that such an ordinary person could have altered history."_* While serving in the US Marines, this "loser" was trained as a radar operator tracking the new U2 spy planes, and was stationed at the top-secret military base in Atsugi, Japan. Lee Oswald was just 24 years old when he was murdered. Yet he had command of the Russian language to such an extent that his Russian wife thought he was native born. "loser"?

[@lunarmodule6419]

In the new JFK documentary (Oliver Stone) we learn that the rifle on the backward pictures and the one presented as evidence were not the same. And we get 2 new testimonies saying Ozzy didn't come down the stairs after the shooting.

[@SeR-HaT]

I live in Turkey and I would love to come to Dealey Plaza. That magical place and that assassination haunt my dreams. I want to see that museum and touch that historical building. Something has been pulling me there very strongly for years. Since my childhood.

[@aaronpaterson1615]

I'm always fascinated how everyone denotes Lee Oswald as a killer or assassin. Lee Oswald became a suspect within half an hour of the assassination, he was arrested and charged with killing a Dallas police officer and over the weekend was additionally charged with John F Kennedy's murder but he was never convicted and found guilty by a jury. Oswald was in reality a suspect only, he never was interviewed properly, no records except an FBI agent who took notes and desteiyed them. Poor Oswald never had his day in Court. Police Chief Jesse Curry said in retirement "We never did prove Oswald was on the sixth floor with a rifle!" Aussie Backyard Researcher

[@andrewhoyle1521]

They didnt interview him in supreme depth Cuz, they couldn't of known he would be killed so they thought they'd have all the time in the world. They didnt really press him about the assassination Cuz as several investigators have stated they didnt need to at the time, there was just an overwhelming of evidence against him.

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

@@andrewhoyle1521 They also denied him legal representation. Nothing he said in custody would be admissible. When asked why they didnt record his interviews they gave the lame excuse they didnt have a tape recorder. The whole police station was full of reporters and TV crews and they say they didnt have a tape recorder. They then said they didnt have a room big enough to have a stenographer. Again that is just a plain lie, they had dozens of rooms big enough for Oswald, 2 questioners and a stenographer. Finally, Oswald was supposedly originally arrested and charged with the murder of Tippit but in the so called notes of Fritz or Bookhout can you find 1 single question relating to Tippit? I cant even find a single question as to whether he had help or not. This is a guy that defected to Russia in the middle of the cold war and supposedly met the head of assassinations, Kostikov, in the soviet embassy in Mexico City and handed out pro Castro leaflets in New Orleans and yet it seems they never once asked him if he was working for the Russians or Cubans.....do you really buy that?

[@watermelonlalala]

@@andrewhoyle1521 They could have known he was going to be killed, if they were in on the plot to let him be killed, as most people thought when he was shot in police custody.

[@eameece]

The evidence was open and shut. A trial would have been superfluous.

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

@@eameece Evidence has to have a full, unbroken chain of custody and has to be authenticated before it can be even entered in to a trial. Just how much of the so called "evidence" can claim to pass both criteria?

[@stuartschneiderman8517]

So the explanation is he was an egotist who felt under appreciated by the world and he wanted to be a historically significant figure so he shot Kennedy to death and then denied. Oswald may have been a narcissist but not all narcissists are Oswalds. There needs to be much more in terms of the social relations he became embedded in order to understand his actions.

[@vernpascal1531]

Yes, one of the most important things in regards to Oswald is that he was an Orphan...didn't have a father and was very easily manipulated by Ferrie and De Mohrenschildt.

[@stuartschneiderman8517]

@@vernpascal1531 Yes I believe he probably had a need to find and become part of an ideal system or person in order to idealize and to derive self value from. I suspect he initially idealized the USSR but because they rejected his attempts to gain a position teaching there he came to de idealize the soviets returned to the USA and went to the other political extreme and became part of Ferrie's and De Mohrenschildt's right wing group that wanted to provoke an invasion of Cuba and possibly a war with the Soviets.

[@Penswordman]

During your first 15 words or so, I thought you were referring to the speaker.

[@stuartschneiderman8517]

@@Penswordman Yes indeed, but really what this guy is saying if you leave out the clinical terminology is that Oswald was a conceited person who wanted to be famous so he he shot the president. It may be true as far as it goes but how far is that ?.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@@stuartschneiderman8517 How far is that? Pretty far in fact. Recall that a fellow Marine of Oswald said that Lee once remarked he wanted to do something that people would talk about about for 1,000 years. Too early to tell if that's a _fait accompli_ ?

[@cubbyvespers6389]

So Lee wanted to be known for carrying out a great event and desired to be viewed as a strong man and yet he denied the charges up and down and referred to himself as a patsy...

[@r.williamcomm7693]

Agree with you. Not sure how this man arrived at his conclusions but if Oswald wanted a glorious last stand it seems that he was in the perfect place from his sniper’s nest so that assertion doesn’t make sense. So next is whether he wanted to get caught & espouse his Marxist views. As you pointed out, claiming he was a patsy was doing the opposite & set him up to be viewed as weak minded. IMHO Oswald decided that if he could get away from the scene then he would flee to Mexico with the hopes of living a life in exile where he would be admired as a hero for the cause. I’ve always wondered if he was part of a conspiracy & felt that he had been set up to get caught & that’s why he claimed that he was a patsy. Imagine how much history would’ve changed if Oswald had blurted out that others were involved & if the police had simply exercised a little caution to prevent him from being murdered.

[@billkeon880]

Well, Lee had said that he wanted to be an important person numerous times throughout his life to many people. He wanted to do important things for leftist causes by taking a shot at the right wing fascist goon, Walker. When he did this he didn’t want to get caught because he fled, hid the rifle and wrote a long revealing note for Marina. So he wanted to do important things but not to get caught. He fled the TSBD, shot Tippit and ducked into the movie theatre. When the enormity of his action hit him after killing JFK he felt he had to shoot Tippit and then deny his actions to police because it was too real. He did what most murderers do when they are caught....deny what they did. It’s only the rare few that are caught red-handed that admit it. If he had a trial and was put on the stand he may have changed tactics when backed into a corner and espoused his political beliefs, but who knows. But when he was arrested, he told lie after provable lie about anything to do with the rifle, pistol, alias, etc...anything to do with the assassination. He also pulled his pistol and pulled the trigger (misfired) against the cops that arrested him. If you really are an innocent patsy and the police come toward you... you don’t try to shoot a cop. That’s a guilty person, there’s no way to refute that

[@billkeon880]

@@geejaybee1970 completely agree. Didn’t realize he beat Marina so often as well.

[@paulscottfilms]

1 minutes thinking will tell you it was impossible with a WW11 rifle.And then there is the mass of evidence . CIA, MAFIA , George Bush, Johnson, Allan Dulles, Cuba connections, just about everybody was at that party.

[@billkeon880]

@@paulscottfilms in 1963, a WWII rifle was less than 20 years old. Lots of people today use weapons that are 15 or 20 years old, especially when they are inexpensive. That's the main reason Oswald bought it, because it was affordable for him. Since he couldn't hold down a job and was fired from all 3 jobs he got in the year prior to his assassination of JFK. So the Italian army was using a gun that couldn't shoot? Is that believable? No. Italy researched and made sure they used a rifle that was competent, otherwise they couldn't have survived for two days in WWII. Besides, the Warren commission and other investigators found that Oswald's rifle could do the shooting. The original time stamp of the shots - 3 shots in 5 seconds initially seemd improbable but it was bogus because the first shot occured well before frame 225 - actually between frame 130-160 - in the Z film, so Oswald had 8 to 11 seconds to get off his 3 shots. Plenty of time with a solid weapon, which he had been dry-firing the whole summer in New Orleans.

[@Jay-vr9ir]

Anybody , where was Oswald going when he shot Tippit ? Ruby lived in the opposite direction , also the airport was in the other direction .

[@AMC2283]

He didn’t shoot tippit

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@AMC2283 Yes he did. Multiple eye-witnesses said so.

[@grobbs666]

Nobody really knows unfortunately. There's theories he was headed to the Greyhound station, which was in the direction he was generally heading. Another theory is he was just trying to get far enough away from the scene, as he was heading roughly south when downtown was north from his rooming house. Some think even Oswald didn't know and was just running. What we do know is that he first stopped at his rooming house and picked up a coat and his revolver. This seems to imply he didn't plan on returning that night at least. If I had to guess, mostly likely to the bus station. He rode the bus a few times (NOLA to Houston, Houston to Mexico City, Mexico City back to Dallas), so he was familiar with it. I think his plan was to try to go back to Mexico and then get into Cuba.

[@robertromero8692]

Oswald had money for a bus, not an airplane.

[@aaronz7056]

@cobar53 No doubt you can explain how "others" knew: (A) a cop would be driving at 10th and Patton at exactly the right moment (B) they would need to have a identical Oswald imposter hanging around the streets of Oak Cliff (C) the cop won't get lucky and outdraw and capture the imposter (D) Oswald would successfully flee the plaza and go to Oak Cliff (E) where his revolver was, that he would obtain it, and retain it (F) how they got the arresting officers and the ballistics boys on the Dallas P.D. to risk their necks to a man, obey illegal orders to lie and falsify evidence, send an innocent man to the chair, make themselves accessories to the murder of a decorated brother police officer with a wife and three children, and all remain silent about the hoax for the rest of their lives.

[@deborahshah9536]

Since the only judgement against Lee Oswald innocent until proved guilty came from the long-discredited Warren Commission I'd prefer to hear the esteemed 6th Floor Museum present Towards An Understanding of Lee Oswald: Patsy ...

[@robertromero8692]

Wrong. The HSCA also proved he was the shooter. In addition, there was a trial in London that used a real Dallas jury, real Dallas judge, and real prosecutor and defense attorney. Oswald was found guilty.

[@charlesmaeger6162]

Not in the long term interests of the city of Dallas, Texas.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

Time for your meds.

[@bobdecarlo7778]

No, no! Not "patsy"......"liar".....liar Oswald tells the audience "patsy." Not. Ozzie would never tell the truth when a lie would do.

[@emmgeevideo]

I’ve come to the end of this presentation. I’ve been watching many of the KZbin presentations and panel discussions sponsored by The Sixth Floor Museum. The others that I have watched were firmly based on actual participation in the events or on historical scholarship. This presentation pales in comparison. It is all speculation.

[@stevemaher7481]

It's a shame the TSBD museum is one sided. Lone nut only.

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@stevemaher7481 There is no credible evidence in support of anything but LN. If you think there is, take it down to the Dallas grand jury. They're open at 8:00am.

[@vernpascal1531]

@@apointofinterest8574 Sure. The SBT is impossible. In Vince Palamara's, new book Honest Answers, he has close up photos of both JFK's shirt and coat. The hole of the shirt as shown from the inside has the wound exactly as it was measured that day over 5 inches below the Collar. Way too low to exit the neck. End Of Story!

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@vernpascal1531 The photographic record constitutes proof that Kennedy's jacket was raised (bunched up) when he was shot in the back. As a direct result, the "low" bullet holes in John Kennedy's shirt and jacket are not accurate indicators of the entry location, which was higher. The entrance wound in the lower neck (back) was 3.5 cm above the wound in the throat when Kennedy was positioned in the fully upright position. That's per the 1968 Ramsey Clark Panel and their examination of the autopsy photos. The Rockefeller Commission and the HSCA also agreed with this conclusion. SBT confirmed again! (End of story)

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@vernpascal1531 Now, Vince Palamara makes some great pizza, but as a JFK historian, he's even less informed than you; which is a pretty low bar to slide under.

[@watermelonlalala]

He is just babbling nonsense when he gets to narcissism. Do you know almost nobody was called narcissist until the last decade or so? But now, everybody the authorities don't like is a narcissist.

[@josephconder9074]

Ah yes, "the authorities".

[@watermelonlalala]

@@josephconder9074 The first use like this I ever heard was the DOJ, arguing that someone who had never done anything violent should be kept in prison for twenty years or so because he was a narcissist. And I although I never met the guy, I would agree, he probably was a narcissist. As time went by, I began to see women online doing long nutty lessons on how to recognize a narcissist and commenting about all the bad things their narcissist boyfriends had done to them. So, they weren't authorities, but I think they had had indoctrination from somewhere. Last century nobody worried about narcissists or thought they were evil and should be locked up. Narcissists were considered to be conceited, comical, and rare. Show biz stereotypes.

[@billkeon880]

You must know there is a diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder in psychology. It’s in the DSM

[@watermelonlalala]

@@billkeon880 Last century it was a person who looked in the mirror and was sexually attracted to himself. Like the Greek Narcissus. I don't care what it is this century because this century is one big personality disorder.

[@billkeon880]

@@watermelonlalala whether it uses that word in the title or not, it is a collection of characteristics that are involved in a disorder. You may not like science or modern psychology, but it is a thing and it helps people and it also is used in courtroom cases and agreed upon across the entire spectrum of acredited pfoessionals. A lot of creationists deny evolution but that doesn't make their anti-science view more credible. But, getting back to the real topic - if you have even read ten pages about Oswald, you know what kind of disturbed, violent guy he became. Mailer and Pricilla Johnson's books show this laid bare.

[@markm.9458]

Enough tangents to overfill a trig book.

[@emmgeevideo]

I’m writing this halfway into the presentation, just after the extended reading of The Who song. He hasn’t presented a single concrete reference for his assertions and interpretations other than some historical data points, e.,g, father’s early death, time spent in orphanages, etc. In fact we haven’t heard what ages he was in the orphanage. No teacher’s comments on grade cards, no journal writing, etc. Yet we are told that Oswald felt shame, looked at muscular men in comic books, was told he was special, and was narcissistic. The youthful photo with a smirk and bad haircut suggests he was a bully. I’m eager to hear more but want to say at this point that this is all theory, no facts, and overly-reliant on citing the writing of others (e.g., The Who song) to explain Oswald. So far, I’m not impressed.

[@-danR]

Thanks, you've saved from going further than 8 minutes. He's also a droning bore with the exceptionally trying speech-habit of carrying a sentence across to the next exhalation: "carrying on without a comma".

[@billkeon880]

You need to read both Priscilla Johnson and Norman Mailer’s books on Oswald. I had the same feelings that Oswald was a patsy until I read these two exhaustive accounts of his life. The guy was an unstable marine, like many others who go on shooting sprees. But in his case he wasn’t traumatized in battle...it was his life that did it.

[@theresefotiou7097]

i agree w/ most of what you said. Except that this guy, in his presentation, actually said he had NO evidence that Oswald followed, or even, ever saw one of those particular Comic books. Or heard any of the songs, or singers, mentioned in this guy's 'presentation'. Just that it would 'fit' Oswald's "Type"---or "personality". And, he relies heavily on any number of themes from the "Warren Report", without acknowledging those 'claims' as originating from the 'Warren Report'. Along with other claims, mostly disputed by investigators/researchers. Which means he, basically is doing a profile on a PERSONALITY that was NOT Oswald's PERSONALITY.

[@theresefotiou7097]

emmgeevideo I was replying to you in my comment, above.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

@@billkeon880 The best examination of LHOs mediocre life, can be found in "Reclaiming History"...Incredibly well-researched!

[@johnbellingham9067]

Lee Oswald's father was named Robert Edward Lee Oswald Sr.(1896-1939) in honor of the Confederate General Robert E. Lee (1807-1870) who was a distant cousin He served in the US Marine Corps during WW I. Lee Oswald's older brother was named Robert Edward Lee Oswald Jr.(1934-2017) and also served in the US Marine Corps in the Korean War. Lee Harvey Oswald also served in the US Marine Corps in particular as a radar operator monitoring U2 spy flights over Korea, China and Russia at Atsugi air force base in Japan. Due to fragmented schooling LHO joined the marines as early as was possible. He was intelligent enough to operate the radar equipment and learn enough to pass a Russian exam in the Marine Corps. Suddenly he became a raving socialist/communist, received an honorable discharge to look after his ailing mother and a week later headed off to Russia. His mother's tax returns are classified (national security). After his death his mother stated that he worked for the "government". Please explain.

[@mlconley]

Oswald was stationed at a top secret naval base where the U2 plane was based. He was ONI. His defection was a mirror of what Russian intelligence did-why else was he let back in to the US no questions asked. He had a photographic memory, spoke several languages and was very well read. Possibly he was sent there to leak details of the U2 to embarrass JFK since the SR71 was about to fly.

[@anonymouspubliccitizen5000]

Tax returns are not released by IRS for anyone unless the person themselves does so.

[@johnbellingham9067]

@@anonymouspubliccitizen5000 Oh really ? What about CIA 201 files, employment pay slips etc. The Warren Commission was able to gather the evidence they wanted pretty readily and to ignore anything that did not suit their story. Maybe you should talk to the police about the right to access criminal's tax returns.

[@BigBingFan]

Gerald Ford wrote a book a couple years after the Assassination, called, "Portrait of THE Assassin." (He caught some flak, due to the fact no one could prove he actually fired a shot that day, so the title changed (through pressure) to, "Portrait of An Assassin."

[@vernpascal1531]

Gerald Ford became President and I bet very few people have read it. I've never seen a copy, and I've read over a 140 books on The Assassination and used to peruse used book stores for books on the Assassination.

[@vernpascal1531]

@GaryGuevara I just saw yer post. That is a very good question, and impossible to address objectively,, as no one book has the whole truth about the Assassination.I'd say Crossfire By Marrs,LBJ Mastermind of The Assassination Nelson,Farewell To Justice Mellen,Innocence of Oswald By Fannin, Lone Star Speaks Zachry and Peterson, JFK And The End Of America By Fleming, Devil's Chessboard Talbot,Man Who Knew Too Much Russell, and JFK And The Unspeakable are all outstanding.

[@derveshbaba2787]

@@vernpascal1531 case closed by Gerald posner..excellent well researched book as it carefully answers all the conspiracy theories one by one ...

[@victorcarrillo1570]

That was a weak move by Ford. There was enough evidence to link Oswald to the crime. Ford should have kept the original title.

[@robertromero8692]

@@derveshbaba2787 Vincent Bugliosi's book is more comprehensive.

[@aaronpaterson1615]

1:16:53 sec Was country singer, George Jones a Dallas cop on 22nd November, 1963?

[@billkeon880]

Lee’s mom was a very strange woman with some strange ideas. She called Lee as having done more for his country than any other human being! Wow, really?

[@renataheiberg7534]

Perhaps she meant his service in army and then Russia.

[@grobbs666]

She was really something else haha. Have you read her testimony to the Warren Commission? It's absolutely wild!

[@theresefotiou7097]

@@grobbs666 Exactly whar was so "Wild"??

[@theresefotiou7097]

@ Bravo Sierra I mean "Wild" abt. Marguerite's Testimony?? I don't quite remember her Testimony---is it that her son was in "Intelligence", as she said at other times? Bc., if that was it---later uncovered documents of Oswald's Military Records , showed that he WAS in "Intelligence". It's ALWAYS the Mother made to look 'Crazy'! So of course, then to make the son [or daughter] look 'crazy'. 'Bravo Sierra' seems to imply that you see yourself as in some kind of 'Special Forces', or 'position'. Does that mean you are 'crazy', w/ "Wild" claims?? What's really "Wild" abt. the "Warren Commission claims", is that so many testifying 'witnesses' said their testimony was altered, or even , completely "fabricated" by the Warren Commission".

[@grobbs666]

@@theresefotiou7097 Yep I'm in intelligence too haha. You got me! I'm CIA, Marguerite Oswald was CIA, Lee was CIA, Jim Garrison was CIA, Trump and Biden both CIA, and actually everyone in the world is CIA and in intelligence except you! Your mother, your father, your neighbors, your dog or cat, the flies that occasionally get inside, the ants, the birds, and even the squirrels

[@nicknewman7848]

I'm sorry but Oswald was not behaving like someone who wanted to get caught or go out in a blaze of glory. It's just as likely that he believed he was going to meet a contact, go to a safe house and eventually flee the country. He was involved with some seriously shady people and was a prime candidate to be manipulated into being the fall guy for such an operation. It's likely he believed he was part of some kind of operation either to defend or assassinate JFK (hence the symbolism of leaving the wedding ring). Maybe he was a shooter, maybe he was in the break room but "lone nut" just doesn't match the events before or after the murder.

[@johnbellingham9067]

Nick Newman Bravo I agree with all you say here

[@nicknewman7848]

@@johnbellingham9067 Thanks John.. a conspiracy is highly likely and i think obvious to anyone who is unbiased and looks at the available evidence from witnesses. There's just too much that doesn't fit (on the day and subsequently). The perpetrators, the motives for the cover-up and it's execution are more complex.

[@johnbellingham9067]

Oswald was probably told to shoot to miss just like he did with General Walker to add to his Fake pro Cuban resume - poor misguided patsy

[@vernpascal1531]

@@johnbellingham9067 Good point. Someone like DeM, or in the network could have paid him 50 bucks or so a good amount in those days to scare the hell out of Walker,yet behind the scenes, according to Dick Russell The Man Who Knew Too Much,the alphabet agencies knew of LHO's attempt prior to the JFK Assassination, and April'63 a lot of strange things begin happening with JFK's announcement of the Texas Trip. Multiple Oswald's in 2 places start appearing etc.

[@otom20]

@@johnbellingham9067 But parafin test says otherwise..

[@mickymantle3233]

How come there was NO powder residue found on Oswald's hands ??

[@mickymantle3233]

@Christian Ecker Never heard that. Anyhow, I don't believe he was an actual shooter on either J.F.K or Tippet.

[@81overon]

He didn't use a gun that day.

[@fobrien1]

@Christian Ecker Oswald did indeed have a positive reaction on his hands however the nitrate test (or should i say the paraffin test) that was used on his hands had already no longer been used in 1963 . the reason was that the test gave both false positive and false negative results . let me explain . a man who never held or fired a weapon in his life could test positive while a man that did hold and fire a weapon could test negative . certain things that ones hands could come into contact with on a daily basis could cause the nitrate test to give a false positive such as PRINT INK . Oswalds day was spent handling boxes and bundles of books and all covered in PRINT INK . the fbi in testimony in early 64 (it was either frazier or Cunningham ) testified in regards the things that would cause a FALSE positive reaction . another case in point would be the Birmingham 6 who served 15 years in jail in the uk . they had a similar test done on their hands and on the basis of the result they were imprisoned . they have since been found innocent and released . so what happened ? well it was found that they had used playing cards and that the playing cards when tested caused a positive result , in essence the THE PRINT INK . so the nitrate test NO LONGER in use even in 63 cannot be relied upon . it wouldn't have been admissible in any court in any case , so as it stands Oswald was never proven to have had any gun powder residue on him . I do know that some (lone nut advocates ) argue that the carcano wouldn't have let out any residue that could have ended up on oswalds cheek . why ? well because they say the chamber was sealed , yes it was , but then you have to open that chamber and eject the shell . Harold Weisberg found a document that was buried in which some 7 fbi agents fired a rifle and in which all of their cheeks tested positive . now its obvious to see why the fbi would want to bury that information , but I wonder what test they used ??? . we also have to factor in that Oswald was seen on the lower floors , 1st and 2nd floors from around 11.45 am and up a time between 12.30 and 12.20 . jfk was due to pass the depository about 12.15 or 12.20 , if Oswald wanted to kill jfk he didn't seem to be in that much of a hurry to get to the 6th floor . fact is if jfk had been on time and passed the depository at 12.15 to 12.20 Oswald could not have been in place on the 6th floor . Arnold Rowland was on Houston street . he looked at his watch and the hertz clock on the depository roof , his watch said 12.15 and the clock said 12.16 . at that time he looks up and he saw a black man leaning out of the snipers nest window , that's the east end of the building . the only black man officially on the 6th floor at that time was bonny ray Williams who sat feet from the window eating his lunch . at the same time he sees a second man with a rifle in a window at the west end of the floor , it needs noting that the carcano was found in that area . if Oswald was seen still down stairs at that same time logic dictates that he cant have been the man that Rowland saw . the commission decided they didn't want to believe Rowland , to believe Rowland would make it difficult at best if not impossible to find Oswald to be the shooter .

[@aaronpaterson1615]

No fingerprints either until Sunday night or Monday morning 24th-25th November

[@alanholloway1264]

So he was captured shortly after the Tippet murder in possession of a .38 pistol. The bullets taken out of tippet perfectly matched this gun. Multiple witnesses identified Oswald as the the shooter in the Tippet murder. Need I go on?

[@paulaharrisbaca4851]

I sometimes wonder if people project too much. The “smirk” that the lecturer said he sees on Oswald around 39:00 makes me think of the smirk that the Twitter liberals claimed to see on the Covington school kid, Nick Sandmann, when he was being harassed by the Black Israelites and the Indian drummer who got in his face and started beating a drum at him. It’s very easy to project images you’ve had drummed in your head by the media. Perhaps Oswald looked like Dennis the Menace to him, I don’t know. I know that Lee got teased all the time and that was perhaps why he missed having a father figure so much. Single mother’s are poisonous for boys. Boys and girls need a biological father in the home. Preferably, although biological fathers can be creepy too, like John List who killed his entire family and his mother….

[@donaldcarpenter5328]

Nick Sandman DID have a 'SMIRK" on his shithead FACE!!!!

[@julianboone9542]

Why label Oswald “the assassin”? HE WAS NEVER CONVICTED NOR DID HE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST ANY OF THE CHARGES CHARGES!!!

[@andrewtomlinson5237]

Let's be honest... even DEAN ANDREWS as a defence attorney would have got every piece of "evidence" the WCR presented thrown out of court on first reading. And if someone wants to show the evidence that puts Oswald on the 6th floor at 12.30 then go on, show me and I'll listen. BUT... Don't tell me how you THINK he may have been able to be there. (And if you begin by showing me Lt Day's fingerprint evidence, you'll have to wait a few minutes before I respond because it will take that long to stop laughing.)

[@andrewtomlinson5237]

@@defunctuserchannel You are quite right. And the O.J Simpson prosecution had much better evidence that he was at the scene of crime and had actually committed the murder. Of course they also had Mark Fuhrman... The DPD's investigation and evidence gathering of the 11/22/63 murders makes Fuhrman look like a paragon of procedural competence.

[@jimstrope701]

Even the Dallas Police Chief could tell you that bullets were comimg in from the front. He also said- "Nobody could ever put Oswald in the school book depository with a gun."

[@robertkirchner8857]

What needs to be said here, is the truth. This gentleman has no clue on what he is saying! He is going by the lie of the Warren Commission. He is completely wasting time.

[@ZenPepperClub]

You pinko commie what u talking about willis

[@aaronpaterson1615]

Have we all forgotten that Oswald was never spotted anywhere near the sniper's nest (by co-workers or people outside the building), nor was it proven in court that he killed a copper or president!

[@vernpascal1531]

You are right. it's called faith. Faith in Authority. But faith is not knowing is it?

[@aaronpaterson1615]

@Ricky Bowen Absolutely correct Ricky, does suit my agenda seeking the truth no matter how it played out. After looking at Brennan I realised he was as unreliable as Helen Markham was as a witness in the Tippit shooting. There they are Ricky, Brennan & Markham, the Warren Commission's Star witnesses who both lied or at least handled the truth in a quite bizarre manner.

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@aaronpaterson1615 Mark Lane is the one who lied before the WC about what Helen Markham had told him.

[@robertromero8692]

Wrong. during Sunday’s interrogation Oswald slipped up and placed himself on the sixth floor at the time of the assassination, making him the only employee of the Book Depository Building who placed himself on the sixth floor, or was placed there by anyone else, at the time we know an assassin shot Kennedy from the sixth floor. In his Sunday-morning interrogation he said that at lunchtime, one of the “Negro” employees invited him to eat lunch with him and he declined, saying, “You go on down and send the elevator back up and I will join you in a few minutes.” He said before he could finish whatever he was doing, the commotion surrounding the assassination took place and when he “went downstairs,” a policeman questioned him as to his identification, and his boss stated that he was one of their employees. The latter confrontation, of course, refers to Officer Marrion Baker, in Roy Truly’s presence, talking to Oswald in the second-floor lunchroom within two minutes after the shooting. Where was Oswald at the time the Negro employee invited him to lunch, and before he descended to the second-floor lunchroom? The sixth floor. Charles Givens testified that around 11:55 a.m., he went up to the sixth floor to get his jacket with cigarettes in it and saw Oswald on the sixth floor. He said to Oswald, “Boy, are you going downstairs…it’s near lunchtime.” He said Oswald answered, “No, sir. When you get downstairs, close the gate to the elevator.”

[@charlesloucks1840]

@@robertromero8692 Come on Robert! The acoustics experts hired by the House Select Committee analyzed the police radio recordings and concluded there were more than three gunshots fired when JFK was murdered--that means conspiracy. We've been told the police got rid of their interrogation notes; where did you conjure up this "evidence"? I don't think it really matters if Oswald really did take shots at JFK or not--it is fairly certain there were more shooters and a whole lot of people involved in JFK's demise. Hell, the Secret Service agent driving the limo either stopped or slowed down after shots had been fired, looked back at JFK and when JFK's head exploded, then stepped on the gas as Jackie Kennedy's Secret Service agent was climbing on to the back of the limo. So, Secret Service agents are trained to slow down or stop when hearing shots? Give me a break! That driver was in on the assassination and played his part like a pro.

[@JFKMLKRFKGHWB]

is this a gov ink reality shrink?

[@williamwingo4740]

2:37 I'd always wondered about that. I know that my own draft card in Alabama in 1961 had no photo, but hey, maybe they used a different form in Texas. But it does fit with Oswald's perception of himself as an important person, ignored and bypassed by history....

[@joshuaherpolsheimer4699]

Lee wasn't the assassin. It goes deeper than that. He truly was the patsy he said he was

[@apointofinterest8574]

@Joshua Herpoisheimer: The "pasty" remark concerned his (Oswald) being an easy person to accuse for "having lived in the Soviet Union," as Lee himself made clear in the first part of the remark. Did you doze off?

[@grobbs666]

Like apointofinterest85 says... Oswald didn't just say he was a patsy. It was part of a longer statement that conspiracy pushers ALWAYS remove. They never mention that, because it defeats their argument. Oswald himself explains why he said he was a patsy in the first part of the statement... because he had lived in the Soviet Union. Not because he was trying to admit to some crazy CIA conspiracy

[@mauiswift6391]

That line has always been misconstrued, it was originally “they are targeting me because I lived in the Soviet Union, I’m a patsy”. It maybe slightly paraphrased.

[@robertromero8692]

The evidence is overwhelming that Oswald killed JFK.

[@mauiswift6391]

@@robertromero8692 I certainly agree, however so much tune has passed, so many conspiracies that the truth will never be accepted.

[@columbmurray]

This is in fact quite brilliant as an analysis of Oswald's personality . Interestingly , I can see many parallels with the upbringing and personality of Adolf Hitler. Many thanks.

[@kegeshook1734]

Vitamin D, not C.

[@donniemoder1466]

It is kind of horrible how Oswald is so famous, infamous. He is the center of attention for so many historians and the curious. Many television programs and plays focused on him. Of course the many hundreds of books about the Kennedy assassination. At this point it seems he gets more attention then JFK. I think this lecturer makes a lot of assumptions about Lee's early life and how Lee felt which seems highly conjectural. The focus on comic books and reciting all the lyrics to the song Behind Blue Eyes really turned me off to this lecture. The quote and abrupt ending also confused me as he presented it as if it was something he referenced earlier in the lecture. I think this lecture showed that Oswald had a painful upbringing which led to some self hate which continued in the military where he was not accepted by his fellow soldiers which led to his defection. Then rejecting his country, then being rejected by the USSR and his wife. He seemed very alienated and not accepted.

[@anonymouspubliccitizen5000]

It is ex post facto / potentially hindsight biased analysis. Not that he is wrong about everything. Obviously interviewing Oswald would have been the best way here. Oswald entering Marines may have also attracted Oswald because he could get military training assuming he was interested in being a revolutionary. Or…many working class kids have/had few other choices but to join the service. Kill a fascist or a popular liberal president. Screwed up job no. 1 but succeeded at no. 2 (JFK). Tippit was “collateral damage.”

[@screamdoctor]

But Oswald did not shoot anybody that day. Oswald was set up months in advance, starting with the mail order purchase of the rifle that did not have his signature on it.

[@hiataki7]

Thank God for those at Conspiracy Central that Oswald didn't call in sick that Friday morning to get a head start on his weekend. Can you imagine the last minute scrambling of trying to frame someone who wasn't even in the building.

[@watermelonlalala]

Oswald didn't own a rifle and he never lived on Neely Street. (Or so he told the cops.)

[@jeffreykaufmann2867]

@@watermelonlalala there's a picture of him with a rifle. When the Police showed Oswald that picture he said his face was superimposed on another man's body holding the rifle . That's absurd

[@watermelonlalala]

@@jeffreykaufmann2867 You can tell it was because in one photo his head is straight with the shadow under his nose going straight down. In another photo his head is tilted, but the shadow under his nose is tilted with his head, instead of being slanted sideways as a tilt of the head would cause.

[@otom20]

@@jeffreykaufmann2867 Yes, it's absurd. It's not Oswald in that picture.

[@peterrusso6062]

New researchers have to read older books to understand Oswald and follow the trail into new information. The point is connecting old information to new information in order to have a complete story on how he operated. Peter Russo

[@prant8998]

He had a sketchy motive, but he also had the unbelievably lucky opportunity to kill JFK. He worked in a building where the motorcade drove right under a window where LHO could be isolated to get his shots off. Oswald must have thought this was divine intervention. He would never again get an opportunity like this, working in a book warehouse separated from his wife and child with no money, he was emotionally destitute. The video was valuable, we all want to know why?

[@eameece]

@cobar53 The shots came from the rear. Autopsy photos and science proved that. The bullets came from Oswald's gun. Any other idea is just a fantasy. And it WAS a coincidence. He started work over 5 weeks before. It was probably destiny, given all the coincidences and cosmic indicators. That is much more plausible and interesting than inventing conspiracies. He needed no-one else to help him. He found the job through a neighbor of his friend where he and Marina were staying. That is well known. Ruth Paine was not a conspirator.

[@eameece]

@cobar53 I side with the view of all the evidence. Many treating doctors verified that the autopsy photos were accurate later. They did this for example in the NOVA documentary with Walter Chronkite in 1988. The original autopsy was made by amateurs who only drew inaccurate drawings. The HSCA found this "conspiracy" only because of a police motorcycle tape that later was found to be recorded after the shots. There is no evidence at all of a conspiracy. He did talk to some Cubans in Louisiana, apparently, and maybe Banister, but we know he was trying to infiltrate those opposed to Castro to burnish his credentials as an activist and guerilla fighter for Castro. Oswald only learned of JFK's route a day and a half before the shooting. Most of that time he was at work, driving home or arguing with Marina at Ruth Paine's house. Ruth got him the job at the Depository, not some CIA agent. There's no evidence any Cubans or Mafia men contacted him in that 40-hour period. Oswald needed no help or money at all to commit this crime.

[@eameece]

@cobar53 ever hear the quote "What we've got here is, failure to communicate" ? Nobody listens to anybody any more, for the most part; especially online. I would hardly expect YOU to change your mind based on what I say.

[@jb-vb8un]

@phil silvaloplop - the geostationary ammo did not know directions

[@jb-vb8un]

@cobar77sunsetstrip - note convinient Cellini Module space / time Zardoz mrrror capability

[@norobbery]

Started off kind of slow but turned out extremely interesting. Not only insightful into Oswald, but human nature in general. Great Job!

[@charissseburchett8353]

anyone who believes this man is deluded. Oswald was not an asasssin but a hero if you check out Judyth Vary Baker and her book. People need to accept their own govmnt did this.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

My takeaway on this is a dark one!...It is obvious to me, that most all of us are innocent victims of whatever situation we find ourselves in, as children. Life is just a crapshoot, and if you are treated poorly as a child (many of us are), then as an adult, you are gonna be damaged goods!

[@donaldcarpenter5328]

@@charissseburchett8353 u b leave in Q??? I THOUGHT so...

[@unfoedonnie7]

LBJ was the Mastermind of the assisantion plot . " I'm just a patsy" cries Oswald. And I believe him.

[@vernpascal1531]

LBJ unleashed JFK's enemies inside and outside Govt. against JFK.

[@jameskennedy1295]

Oswald's response seemed genuine, like he knew something and he was getting framed. Why would he act that way after killing a president? He seemed as perplexed as anybody. If he hated Kennedy why not blatantly spill his true feelings? If he was the shooter he'd probably be pretty open about it I would think.

[@stuartschneiderman8517]

@@jameskennedy1295 True and they found no blow back nitrates on his face which there would have been if he fired three shots from a rifle with a telescopic sight.

[@alanholloway1264]

"I'm just a patsy"......he would say that wouldn't he? He was up to his neck in this.

[@stuartschneiderman8517]

@@alanholloway1264 Yes he was involved and I suspect he planned to take responsibility for it if he escaped as planned but when the phone call never came when he was having his coke on the second floor he panicked. Then he realised he was being used. I don't believe he fired the rifle or even that that was one of the rifle used. The doctors nurses and ambulance personnel at Parkland said the president had a large exit wound at the back of his head so the shots came from the back and the front.

[@newsflash7718]

I'm really glad I found this channel. Amazing stuff.

[@jospenner9503]

It's actually all bullsh*t. Don't believe anything these liars say.

[@naysayer1238]

@@jospenner9503 Triggered! lol

[@mlconley]

America’s untold stories

[@cdbutler1204]

If I was in the audience I would have asked this: Would Oswald have considered getting shot and killed by an angry citizen - instead of getting executed by the government - the glorious end he wanted? Or a major letdown?

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

Dude, I can answer that: he wasn't happy to be killed by a local loony toons. I'm pretty sure it wasn't part of his plan.

[@cdbutler1204]

Dreamingrightnow In that case, it’s good that he got SOME kind of comeuppance.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

It is interesting, that Oswald just a minute before he was shot, was asked if he feared being shot by someone..he replied "Aw, nobody is gonna shoot me!"....famous last words, for sure!

[@curbozerboomer1773]

@cobar53 You people need to stick to the facts..Ruby nearly missed his opportunity to shoot Oswald, as he had slept in that day and was just walking out of the post office one block from the Police Department, when he noticed a commotion, and decided to see what was going on..No one had controlled Ruby in any way that morning--he just shot Oswald on extreme impulse..Ruby was just as unstable as Oswald was, just a different type of weirdo.

[@bobdecarlo7778]

@@curbozerboomer1773 ah! Thank you. Someone who knows the truth. You're a rare soul. You read Bugliosi?

[@kennethmay9002]

He lost me when he stated that he has studied this for his whole adult life and believes that Oswald acted alone.

[@apointofinterest8574]

@Kenneth May: The real "lost" people are those who place deep abiding belief in a conspiracy, proof of which after 57 years, is still not forthcoming. Maybe another half-century or two is required. And then, one fine day....!

[@grobbs666]

Well maybe you should do some studying of the assassination for yourself, then you'll discover that truth as well! So many people just watch a couple poorly researched/misleading youtube videos, or hear some out of context facts from people and then they think they KNOW FOR A FACT there was a conspiracy. I use to think there was a conspiracy. I had watched that JFK movie by Stone, watched a few documentaries, read some articles, etc and believed it blindly. That is till I decided to go read full transcripts from witnesses, look into what explanations there were for 'facts' conspiracy believers bring up, etc. Once I did that, my knowledge grew and slowly changed my mind. It was painful and sucked, but couldn't deny it after having read for myself the source information and seeing how conspiracy authors either twisted the facts, or just flat out lied!

[@apointofinterest8574]

@@grobbs666 The very last place you'd want to go for the discovery of the truth in the Kennedy case is O. Stone's movie "JFK," containing as it does more factual errors, omissions, lies, distortions and make-believe elements than an amateur cartoon. That unfortunate film has served to convince the majority of people of something (conspiracy) that the real evidence demonstrates did not happen. It only points up the basic gullibility of the human species, how easily they can be led, seduced.

[@grobbs666]

@@apointofinterest8574 Exactly! I once was talking to someone who believed in a conspiracy, so I asked him what made him think so. He told me Willie OKeefes story! Haha. So clearly he had just watched the movie and based his opinions around it. I had to tell him OKeefe was not a real person, but made up for the movie. But actually, that movie JFK was the beginning for me changing from believing in a conspiracy. I was watching it again ~10 years ago, and saw the part with Ruby in jail saying he couldn't tell the truth in Dallas, he needed to be taken to DC, etc. I thought "well this is absolute damning proof of a conspiracy! How could you deny this?" And I decided to go read the actual testimony from Ruby. Turns out, Ruby gives the reasons why he was saying that, and it wasn't because he wanted to admit to a conspiracy, but the opposite! He thought people in Dallas wanted to make it look like he was part of a conspiracy, but wanted to prove he wasn't! So the exact opposite of how the movie portrayed it! Sorry for long reply, but that was the beginning of me questioning my belief in a conspiracy. I wondered what else might I believe about the case that wasn't true, that was because some manipulative conspiracy author twisted, distorted, took out of context, or just lied about. Turned out, a lot! It's interesting, almost always its someone going from believing in a conspiracy to not thinking there was one. Almost never the other way around. When you actually do the research yourself and not just blindly believe people, it leads you to the truth... that there was no conspiracy.

[@vernpascal1531]

@@grobbs666 The First day Evidence Screams Conspiracy.

[@theunknown4570]

If he did pull a trigger which i highly doubt. He did not do it alone. There were other triggers pulled. Stop holding him solely responsible.

[@robertromero8692]

@cobar53 Utter nonsense. The ONLY bullets ever found were from Oswald's rifle.

[@robertromero8692]

@cobar53 No one dictates what I think, least of all CTers like you.

[@Nescaballero]

Since Lee wasn't the assassin but rather the patsy this discussion should be redirected.

[@jerryashlock5519]

Would appreciate the Dr's impressions, thoughts of LHO reportedly mastering Russian language as has been recounted by Marina and others ...I believe her quote was that at first meeting she " thought he was Russian " ... ( source - " Case Closed " Gerald Posner )

[@markrymanowski719]

She thought he was Russian at first meeting him. That was before he spoke in Russian. His Russian had an accent and there were grammatical errors.

[@jb-vb8un]

@cobaroonsey - Japan banned all left-handed spin bowlers as an international ' no set-ups ' bowling rule

[@curbozerboomer1773]

Marina, from all reports of her Russian friends, was regarded as an airhead, and easy to manipulate...not the brightest bulb in the chandelier!..it is amazing to me, how Oswald managed to have a few girlfriends in his life..he certainly was not a handsome dude, and was obviously screwed up in the head.

[@markrymanowski719]

@@curbozerboomer1773 If you think O was screwed up in the head, it's because you think he shot someone. He didn't. And you don't believe he did. You are lying to yourself for the sake of sucking up to power for your own gain. People make the mistake of falling for the illusion of power. We all die. No ultimate power. Truth lives on, forever. Stop being silly and live your life right. You'll feel better.

[@jebangelacox2013]

Air head would be one word, slut would be another word.

[@JFKMLKRFKGHWB]

youll explain why RC Nagell has same card right?

[@vernpascal1531]

Except with a different photo.

[@watermelonlalala]

​@Greg Parker Since you know so much, why would Nagell do that? I know why I would do it, as a joke.

[@gregparker4532]

@@watermelonlalala Why are people on the internet so othered by how much someone knows? I have spent the past 20 years studying Oswald and this case and I have authored a bio on gim with more new information than a 100 other books combined. Unlike other books, I never canibalized other works. It was all new research. bviously I can't know why Nagell or Fensterwald did it, any more than you. But like you, I'll offer best guesses - if Nagle, to help support his claims. If Fensterwalk - because he is a first class asshat.

[@watermelonlalala]

@@gregparker4532 What's the name of your book?

[@johnbellingham9067]

No discussion of how he learned Russion reasonably well

[@robinluck2922]

And where did all his money come from? This guy is taking a lot for granted.

[@brianambrosemcmahon8531]

Oswald was a spy . He worked for the CIA and FBI when he returned to the USA. A perfect candidate to manipulate as a patsy in the assassination.

[@jameskennedy1295]

Brian you probably nailed it on head, I'm still speculative if he was an assassin or at all.

[@watermelonlalala]

No discussion of how likely it is someone could even teach themselves Russian. Mrs. Paine had a lot of resources and she felt the need to have Marina live with her so so she could learn to converse in Russian. By the way, according to Oswald's "best friend" George deM. Oswald spoke broken Russian and Marina made fun of his mistakes.

[@enriqueburke7637]

He went to language school in the marine corps

[@Jeff-bz6jp]

So much conjecture. Just think; If only Ruby hadn't murdered Oswald, we wouldn't be left scratching our balls in wonder for an eternity. Having said that, figure out WHY Ruby killed Oswald and you'll figure out who killed Kennedy.

[@MartinMcAvoy]

Oswald killed Kennedy.

[@madelefant05]

The speaker stated at the beginning that he had no intention to present Oswald as a lone assassin but that's exactly what he did.

[@michalbarcik]

Because he was.

[@vernpascal1531]

@@michalbarcik -How could Oswald be the lone assassin if both wounds were moved several inches posthumously? Ever heard that anywhere in the History of the World?

[@michalbarcik]

@@vernpascal1531 They were not, exept exit wound in the throath, that was altered because of traheothomy.

[@johncooper7663]

@@vernpascal1531 the wounds didn't move in the xrays or photos

[@vernpascal1531]

@@johncooper7663 -The Death Certificate,Autopsy Face Sheet,Both FBI Agents report put the back wound at T3 some 4-5 inches below the base of the neck. There is no innocent explanation of the drawings used by The Warren Commission, and endorsed by Dr. Humes, that puts the wound in the neck.

[@johnkru1295]

Saw an interview with Lee Oswald's brother Robert. Robert said his brother killed Kennedy for the notoriety but LHO denied it. Robert didn't comment on that and I never understood this.

[@otom20]

He (Robert) was probably forced/bribed to say it.

[@robertromero8692]

@@otom20 Prove it.

[@aaronz7056]

@@otom20 Rubbish. For some people every person with any connection to this case is dirty, except for Lee Oswald.

[@peterfraser9070]

"He (Robert) was probably forced/bribed to say it.": But that is just kind of stupid, isn't it?

[@curbozerboomer1773]

@@peterfraser9070 Yup...but we see "stupid" being rampant in this comment section!

[@gfx2943]

I love the 6th floor museum. I really need to re-visit. I still remember going with my dad in 1994. He was only 9 when it happened, I was the same age when I learned about it and it was always profound and sad. Wish I lived in Dallas, I would apply for a job there immediately!

[@SeR-HaT]

I live in Turkey and I would love to come to Dealey Plaza. That magical place and that assassination haunt my dreams. I want to see that museum and touch that historical building. Something has been pulling me there very strongly for years. Since my childhood.

[@deborahleone4351]

Loved this interpretation. I am a conspiracy believer, but this psychologist sees more than the average bear. I’m a bit younger, but I belong basically to the same generation as this wonderful speaker! THANK YOU KZbin FOR POSTING THIS GEM,. GREAT new and interesting ideas 💡 to think about. I particularly liked the use of “Behind Blue Eyes” by The Who - I always thought it said so much as a cry for help; now that I’ve been reminded of it again, I see that someone else agreed with me (never important to me, but this gentleman is quite a forthright, honest scholar, so I appreciate it more.) God bless you, sir, in the Name of Jesus Christ, our Savior! Wonderful work.....you put so much work and research into this. 🕊❤️🙏🙋‍♀️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@curbozerboomer1773]

Why even mix your religion into an otherwise rational comment?

[@KeithWilliamMacHendry]

I am truly astonished that so many Americans never look at the evidence with an open mind. There just was no conspiracy & in nearly 60 years to the day, no credible alternative evidence has ever came to the fore that anyone other than Lee Oswald acting alone killed president Kennedy & officer Tippet. The rest is wishful thinking & pure fantasy.

[@bobtaylor170]

As soon as Oswald the baby's photo was shown, there were a few seconds' screaming of passing sirens. Hilarious.

[@peterrusso6062]

The issue is can this be shown after so many years Yet, Riddle does a good job in his presentation.

[@jenniferwise8515]

@Phil Silverman so much deflection....STILL.

[@johnglass7383]

Lol. It's true! The millisecond the baby pic is shown, the sirens go off. I'm still laughing at that.

[@scottcarroll9201]

I disagree about Oswald wanting death or to get captured. If he wanted suicide by cop he could've attacked Officer Baker in the Book Depository right after the shooting. If he wanted to be captured he could have turned himself in to Baker or Tippit and confessed. He did none of those things. I think his embryonic escape strategy was to get away from the Depository, grab his gun from the rooming house, and make his way by foot to the local Greyhound bus station and get a ride to the border. He would then make his way to the Cuban embassy and ask for asylum.

[@gregoryklein3311]

Scott Carroll..I agree with your assessment. So he walks nonchalantly out the front door walks towards the bus station...gets on the bus that is going back towards theTSBD...gets off the bus because it is stalled in traffic and hails a cab back to his rooming house. He gets out of the cab a block or so past his rooming house and walks back to change some clothing..Last seen at the bus stop nearby. He was next seen at the theatre.( not Tippit murder ..I believe he wasn't there) His actions , to say the least, are strange. Why would anybody assassinate someone with out having a getaway plan. One's first impression of Oswald would be..THIS GUY IS INSANE,CRAZY and a NUT. But when you here and see is interview on TV and his demeanor at the jail house you have to wonder. If I was going to assassinate someone I would have a car and not use public transportation. Here is my take. Harvey was working with the FBI or the CIA or military intel or all three. He was told to leave the TSBD and receive further orders at the rendezvous location.[Texas Theatre] He realized he was being set up when be got arrested.(l AM JUST A PATSY). He thought he would be cleared and that someone might come to save him so he was still not going to tell his whole truth. He was acting like a good little spy. He finally realized the contrary when Ruby's bullet hit him in the stomach.

[@Exiles800]

Rubbish..."Harvey" realized he had been framed and went to the Texas Theater rendezvous where he had a half dollar bill in his pocket that his contact had the other half of proving a conspiracy...John Armstrong did a brilliant analysis of Captain Westbrook's involvement of setting up Oswald at the Tippit killing and the Texas Theater...Badge Man is real...

[@fobrien1]

"I think his embryonic escape strategy was to get away from the Depository, grab his gun from the rooming house, and make his way by foot to the local Greyhound bus station and get a ride to the border. He would then make his way to the Cuban embassy and ask for asylum." scott you THINK ? not that you know or you can prove ? sounds like a theory to me lol .

[@gregoryklein3311]

Ye

[@curbozerboomer1773]

He clearly was a man running away in desperation, from something awful!...I do not think he expected to get away so easily, but he tried to do so, of course...He only had like thirteen dollars on him, when apprehended. Johnny Brewer, the shoe salesman guy, had just heard on his radio, a vague description of the shooter, and noticed that LHO was standing inside the alcove area of the store, looking inward, while others on the street were watching the police cars whizzing by..he thought Oswald looked stressed out, and was hiding, so he watched him saunter down the street, and sneak into the theatre when the gal taking money had her back turned. Brewer was pretty awesome that day!

[@JFKMLKRFKGHWB]

Judyth Baker?

[@nickroberts-xf7oq]

Could Oswald have possibly been under the impression that he was delivering an "untraceable"rifle for someone else to use ? Like the Secret Service ? or even for a shooter to use on the Governor or the President ? He only knew what he had to know and nothing more. 🤔 ❓️

[@9Ballr]

And when Howard Brennan saw him in the 6th floor window with the rifle in his hands what was Oswald doing, showing the real shooter how to use it? And how did the real shooter just vanish into thin air after the shooting, leaving only Oswald to be found trying to duck into the 2nd floor lunchroom after hearing Truly and Baker coming up the stairs?

[@nickroberts-xf7oq]

@@9Ballr He couldn't tell it was Oswald, lol.

[@9Ballr]

@@nickroberts-xf7oq So the guy who did the shooting and Oswald just happened to both fit the same description? Where did the real shooter go?

[@jetcat132]

An untraceable rifle? I have to believe the FBI had all the info they needed on the origin of the rifle once they had the serial number. By early the next morning they had traced the origin of the rifle and sale from Klein’s Sporting Goods to an order placed by and shipped to A. Hidell, Oswald’s alias. The Carcano was not untraceable, and Oswald owned it. Why would he think it was an untraceable rifle???

[@jetcat132]

@@9Ballr I notice you didn’t get an answer… it’s usually just a smart ass comment and then they scurry away lol.

[@MultiStats]

The use of the Charles Atlas ad and Who song were very lame, but the rest was just OK. More details, but more succinct would have been better.

[@ligayabarlow5077]

"The unconscious is like dark matter, dark energy --they know they're there they know they exist but don't know what it is..." They are inferential hypotheses. That they 'exist' is largely an article of faith. The unconscious, however, is non-theoretically accessible.

[@JFKMLKRFKGHWB]

why the way to save JFKMLKRFK through our post P.A.S.T. ass-ass-i-nation subconscious dream state complex ..if only

[@watermelonlalala]

@@JFKMLKRFKGHWB One day we will wake up in 1963 and find JFK never went to Dallas.

[@markbahouth2713]

@@watermelonlalala that would be the foundation of a Great Movie. ( JFK had a double who was shot in Dallas : you have a powerful imagination thats a fact 🤔

[@stevenmcghee6649]

@@watermelonlalala It's Dallas - it's all a dream, Bobby.

[@davecarr1939]

This guy is grasping at straws... I always knew psychoanalysis garbage is an entire trade full of hacks. It's despicable that we are still clinging to this archaic belief there was only 1 shooter. Just the SINGLE fact that they have the fall guy as a former marine that couldn't shoot, who instead of taking a closer, easier shot almost directly down as soon as the limo started to turn moving at it's slowest pace on any portion of the route, but to wait til it was moving at angle and distance away (making it harder to hit). There is not a single person on the planet who was actually looking to shoot something to kill that would deliberately make their task harder. We need to stop blaming peoples childhood on how they turned out. Sure there are some circumstances where it can alter things a bit, but ultimately YOU are responsible for YOUR choices and actions. I have a pretty good knowledge of ballistics and there is no possible way a wound of that size was inflicted on the back of the skull as an ENTRANCE wound unless he was shot with a tank...and we know what the other side would look like if that were the case. In addition, ALL files were supposed to be released by 2017. the fact they haven't been says all we need to know about involvement.

[@TRINZINI]

1:05:29 "I want to show you that image" Cut to close-up of speaker that prevents us from seeing the image !! Nice work there Mr Director :(

[@methangelx]

8:50 well i myself remind myself of oswald. his employees said he barely talked much, and im somebody who does barely talk. i am described as arrogant and i am very much disdainful of almost every classmate i ever met in my current education years. i always make fun of their tastes and their mediocrity at home or in my head. i have.0 friends and i am teased and bullied every single day since i was 7. i listen to classical ochestral music when everybody listens to whatever shit is trending on tiktok now, i like watching vintage romance films from Hollywood and musicals, and i am a vegan. i like literature and philosophy and quantum physics, most people around me, i notice, like science and math - because they have solid and concrete answers and make you money, or just wasting time on tiktok. people often say i am very mysterious - that's a compliment amongst the other insults i have experienced.i am described as weird, arrogant, the outcast, the different one, and i am acutely aware of it and i don't care. i am really very alienated by everybody.

[@MartinMcAvoy]

Please try and speak to a therapist or maybe a Catholic priest. Good luck. 'Logos gave life to everything that was created and his life brought light to everyone. The light shines in the darkness and the darkness can never extinguish it.' John 1:4-5

[@mogadon7]

Doctor RIDDLE - Yes that's about right.

[@peterfraser9070]

@Greg Parker Sounds like you're referring to Ruby and why shooting Oswald was his own personal action.

[@peterrusso6062]

Riddle shows through TV Shows and books as well as stepping stones how Oswald handled Life but, his mother the role mother is an interesting as a role model. Isolation an alienation is interesting DR Riddle did a good job on the Behavior approach. From Child to adult and on Oswald behavior. Just to understand him. Sixth Floor Museum presented a good approach on his behavior. Peter Russo January 11, 201

[@theresefotiou7097]

here's a number of researchers who worked thru a lot of this w/ Marguerite Oswald, herself. And they said that the stories of her n her 'child-rearing' were grossly exaggerated. After all, it's usually the first 'go-to', isn't it? The mother's ALWAYS 'to blame'. And there's another feature here that u see in 'lone nut' scenarios' of all kinds. NOT ONLY, the 'crazy mother', but the "HELPFUL BROTHER" Scenario---where the Brother 'turns on' the 'accused brother' in order to "Save his brother from himself"---.! Or the "Helpful Father" or 'Uncle' who, basically fulfiills the same purpose--burying their 'accused' relative w/ the "Press", the "Public"., n even the Police.

[@janetphillips2875]

Hello, Peter! Are you related to Perry Russo? And I agree with what you said about going back thru old books, reports, etc. It's usually the best, anyway! Thanks!

[@lunarmodule6419]

"How somebody is capable of murder." It's called greed, opportunity and power to do so. Ozzy didn't do it.

[@spankflaps1365]

We’ll never know who did it, but Oswald was balls deep in the plot either way, and he was a disgusting person who nearly caused WW3.

[@roninkraut6873]

His brothers join the military to get away but Lee does and it’s for some underlying psychological reasons?

[@CPAndy-x5x]

Did they all grow up together?

[@derekcooney747]

Long winded delusion

[@fisterklister]

Very interesting, but I don't think Oswald was alone.

[@patriciaharrington2700]

OK. It's comming on 60 years. WHO was with him?

[@jospenner9503]

Nope, he had the whole US government helping him think he was going to be a hero. Turns out they scapegoated him, threw him under the bus, and sent him straight to hell because of money.

[@naysayer1238]

@@jospenner9503 lol

[@fibrodad1354]

The fact a video on one of the mos televised events of our lifetime has only 30k views with a third ratio of dislikes shows we know its bullshit.

[@choosetolivefree]

So, you're saying that a proper method of fact checking is whether or not information is popular? Haha. No. If you want to attack the video, why don't you take the time to demonstrate how some of the information is wrong?

[@BeesWaxMinder]

19:42 - it's almost as if his brothers and his mother 'swapped' a father for a son and Lee had a LOT to live up to because of that… TOO much to live up to?

[@tams237]

It doesn't matter his upbringing or the trauma he experienced as a child/young adult. Many people have had similar things and never killed anyone let alone a President of the USA. I feel sorry for any relatives still living with that last name. It's a shame the killer could just not be forgotten and his name ever mentioned again.

[@grobbs666]

He doesn't say that people with those personality traits/upbringing always lead to going and assassinating a president. In fact the opposite. He mentions how those traits alone weren't enough, but when it combined with his constant failures in his life and specific events that occurred then led him to assassinate Kennedy. He also mentions how things like therapy/consoling could have helped him, and therefore others with those traits as well. Also, his two daughters changed their names. One was interviewed a few years back, she was working at a bar and talked about it. No other living direct relative is left with the name.

[@leemoore9933]

@cobar53 ALL THE FACTS point to him, you sure can't remove him, the word patsy don't cut it anymore it's just a quick come back with little or no merit.

[@leemoore9933]

@cobar53 Mountain of lies, name me 4-5 and the magic bullet has been debunked to death that has zero merit.

[@robjames3864]

@@leemoore9933 The CIA could frame anyone and make them look guilty through lies and half truths. What you need to do is study their history. It shouldn't take you very long to realize that they are rotten to the core and would do absolutely anything to reach their agenda.

[@jb-vb8un]

@cobar888blanpow - it was DOINK THE CLOWN traveling incogneito

[@Kedz65]

I think Dr. Riddle was past his prime when he presented this lecture... I didn't make it past the 10 minute mark.....

[@charliegritzmacher8885]

His bases are assumptions. Where did he get information. Why was he thrown out of the marines? No mention of present day brothers? I won't be buying that book.

[@watermelonlalala]

Oswald wasn't thrown out of the Marines. He got an honorable discharge early to go to take care of his mom but then he defected and the Marines changed his discharge to dishonorable. Oswald was trying to get that reversed when he was in New Orleans near the end which kind of indicates his mindset as looking to improve his future.

[@brentlackey8316]

Shadow of a doubt! I think all these video prove it exist.

[@lhasa7]

This would have been better without the time-wasting Who lyrics (and "Howling Infinite" academic conceits) and with more specific information about Oswald's psychological assessments (particularly as a teen).

[@michaelharrison7072]

Oswald did not shoot JFK .Hoover knew this but lied on ballistics that he knew conflicted with any shots coming from behind except single not magic bullet that hit connelly .

[@kenneth2656]

Fascinating insight into the mind of Lee and people like him who we all know and may unknowingly be ourselves.

[@aaronpaterson1615]

Why does that copper on left of photo with Oswald and another copper at the mugshot spot look like country legend George Jones?

[@mickymantle3233]

Please all go listen (all the way through!) to "Bob Dylan - 'Murder Most Foul' 2020 (with lyrics)" here on KZbin. It's very powerful & very brave.

[@williamwells1862]

You never analytzed his handwriting. I did. At Ruth Paine's Section in the Swarthmore College Library.

[@stayclean777]

"Diligent research". "Fascinating". LOL I thought waterlogged pop psychology went out in the 70's

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

Dude, he has a doctorate in Clinical Psychology, that's 7 years of postgraduate study; not 'pop psychology'. Your ignorance is showing.

[@vernpascal1531]

@@dreamingrightnow1174 -Yes he may be very bright -yes he may make some good points,but you literally have to deny reality if you truly believe all there was to the Assassination was a lone nut. If you can't trust Doctors, and Federal Agents, and Nurses, and X-Ray Tech's, 2 feet away from JFK's corpse for several hours who can you believe?

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

@@vernpascal1531 It's both fascinating and troubling how often I see this knee-jerk response to even slight alternatives. Because I said he is intelligent, I must agree with everything he says, as though intelligent people are on one side and wrong people are on the other. Even the House Investigation asserted there was more than one shooter.

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

@Greg Parker I don't disagree with your statement. I see flaws in his assumptions too, but especially since even Congress found that a lone gunman theory was unsupported by the evidence. He should rely on the analytics that he practiced to get his degree. All that doesn't mean Oswald fit the type that would be easily manipulated or that he wasn't a narcissistic liar who's contradictions make it really difficult to determine his motivations.It's a shame that the current administration is bowing to pressure from other factions, probably the intelligence agencies, and not releasing all of the remaining documents, as they were ordered by a federal court to do. Someday we'll probably be able to piece the whole picture together, once we get a president with a backbone.

[@scottcarroll9201]

@@dreamingrightnow1174 The House investigation asserted there was more than one shooter based on the totally discredited dictabelt evidence.

[@dorothyfromoz6360]

Dr. Gene Riddle, is not an effective communicator due to his vocal ticks and stutter, but if you can follow along, the outline of his study of LHO is interesting.

[@alexkrummenacher5050]

As a stutterer myself, I can tell you that Dr. Riddle is not a stutterer. I don't know why you would say he is.

[@johnglass7383]

He is good but, yes, LOTS of "uhhhs" and "ums."

[@VTPSTTU]

Thanks for another interesting presentation. I'm not sure that we see that much more about the assassination through this lens, but the ideas are interesting. I don't remember anything about Oswald referring to Officer Tippitt as "poor dumb cop." I'm also skeptical of where that account could have originated. Maybe the lady on the porch said that Oswald said that, but I'm a little skeptical of what she would have reported hearing, particularly if Oswald was just muttering something as he walked away. If Oswald claims that he said that, I wonder whether that was a lie that he told just to build himself up. That broken homes lead to violence does seem true. That our society has gone from attempts on presidents to random victims is interesting, sad but interesting.

[@general_burkhalter]

It's quite well known that Taxicab driver William Scoggins heard Oswald muttering what sounded to him like, "poor dumb cop" or "poor damn cop."

[@VTPSTTU]

@@general_burkhalter I think you've gotten the timeline wrong. From everything I've heard, Oswald's only encounter with a cab driver that day was when he took a cab from downtown Dallas to Oak Cliff. That was after he left the book depository and got off the bus but before he shot Officer Tippit. Therefore, he could not have been talking about Officer Tippit when he muttered whatever he muttered in the cab. Maybe he was talking about Officer Baker, but he didn't shoot Officer Baker. If he said that in the cab, he wasn't talking about shooting a police officer unless he thought one of the rifle shots hit a police officer. After he shot Officer Tippit, he ran along the street and reloaded his revolver. He was in view of people for most of the route between that point and the Texas Theater. I've never heard any suggestion that he got into another taxi. If he didn't get into another taxi, then another taxi driver couldn't have heard him muttering anything related to Officer Tippit.

[@gregoryklein3311]

I think one of the witnesses of the shooting of officer Tippit mentioned that the shooter said that ,as he was leaving the scene. Sorry but wasn't Oswald.

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

There were a few times that I wasn't all on board with the analysis and wondered what his sources were, especially the family dynamic stuff, which seemed pretty mom-blaming; but then again, maybe his mother was unstable and unloving. It happens. I thought the comment he made about LO's obviously fake id being about a subconscious desire to reveal this secret self. I've had that sense of him, that he wanted to people around him to wonder if he was a secret agent or something.

[@scottcarroll9201]

@@VTPSTTU The cab driver who heard Oswald mutter "poor dumb cop" was named William Scoggins and was simply parked near the murder scene eating a sandwich in his taxi. He was not involved with Oswald in any way other than witnessing Tippit's murder. The cab driver who drove Oswald a few blocks from his rooming house was named William Whaley.

[@robjames3864]

Do like the CIA does and gather information about them come up with a profile of just who they are. Then decide just what they're capable of. It shouldn't take long. Their history of dirty deeds is a long storied one.

[@mustafabinsober1248]

If it was a conspiracy, the other conspirators got away with it

[@benitoherrero3895]

Conspiracy does not never prosper: what's the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it conspiracy.

[@markrymanowski719]

You took the words out of the mouth of James Files. He said Oswald was in the assassination team, but fired no shots that day.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@@markrymanowski719 Files was proven to be in Chicago (not Dallas) on 11-22-63.

[@bristolfashion4421]

This guy looks exactly like my uncle - or my dad - I can't quite decide which... my uncle was a professor at a college in St Louis - I think... However, irrespective of who exactly the speaker may or may not be, I enjoyed learning about LHO and his personality alot and found it very helpful with respect to his motivation and the reasons behind what he did. What an *extraordinary & fateful* coincidence that the motorcade route was diverted to Elm Street !! And Well Done Peter Gabriel for summing up this approach in his song Family Snapshot !!

[@jb-vb8un]

@phil silveclear - dog ate the homework set-up theory

[@peterfraser9070]

@Phil Silverman The route wasn't diverted to Elm at the last minute, that's just one of many many myths...so is the fuzzy idea that everything was secured except the TSBD or whatever you were on about

[@anthonyc7045]

@@peterfraser9070 You are wasting your time trying to correct these zealots. You and I and the public record knows that the route was never changed but people like this will never listen to facts.

[@peterfraser9070]

@@anthonyc7045 They love their favourite "murder mystery".

[@williamwells1862]

I know I read handwriting. See his letter at Ruth Paine's section at Swarthmore Library.

[@frederickrapp5396]

The man here doing the talking is not a good presenter. He needs to take a course in public speaking. Interesting subject and content, but poorly presented.

[@gregoryklein3311]

Interesting topic if it was only the truth.

[@randyharris3175]

Well thanks for your opinion but how would you really know

[@randyharris3175]

@Andrew Solymos naw sounds on target to me

[@randyharris3175]

@Andrew Solymos i think im 100 percent

[@KenDanieli]

The video could use a brief introduction.

[@elvirabudda]

Fascinating. Looking forward to the book.

[@gregoryklein3311]

Just like I am looking forward to reading the Warren Commission volumes.

[@ianfranklin745]

Was JFK shot from the back or front?

[@robertromero8692]

Back.

[@charlesloucks1840]

@@robertromero8692 Front. The Zapruder film does not lie in this regard. Also, the doctors who treated JFK at Parkland have written books and stated that the final fatal shot came from the front.

[@robertromero8692]

@@charlesloucks1840 “the doctors who treated JFK at Parkland have written books and stated that the final fatal shot came from the front.” They were mistaken. They were a group of mostly young interns and residents who were not pathologists who had only twenty-two frenzied minutes in Kennedy’s presence, and then only to try to resuscitate him. The autopsy doctors had HOURS to examine Kennedy. Dr. Marion Jenkins was one of the Parkland doctors who thought he saw damage to the rear of JFK’s head. However, Jenkins changed his mind after seeing autopsy photographs in 1988, saying that “the photos showed the President’s brain was crenelated from the trauma, and it resembled cerebellum, but it was not cerebellar tissue. I think it has thrown off a lot of people that saw it.” Charles Carrico was another Parkland doctor who thought he had seen cerebellum tissue. Carrico was asked if there was any possibility that the Parkland doctors were confused about the cerebellum (rear) being damaged. “Oh, absolutely,” he immediately replied. “Why?” He was asked. “Looking at the shredded pieces of brain on the gurney, it looked like some of it had the characteristics of cerebellum, which kind of has a wavy surface. But because these brain pieces were shredded, this could easily have led to confusion as to whether it was all cerebrum-which has broader bands across the surface-or some cerebellum. “The president was lying on his back, so we couldn’t see the rear portion of his head. Consequently, what we did see appeared to be further back than it was since we were not viewing it in relation to his whole head. But really, none of us were looking closely at where the defect was and making mental notes. We were just trying to save his life.” Another Parkland doctor, Charles Baxter, said that Kennedy “had such a bushy head of hair, and blood and all in it, you couldn’t tell what was wound versus dried blood or dangling tissue.” Parkland doctor Robert Grossman, who said he was present in Trauma Room One during the effort to resuscitate the president, would later write that “the autopsy demonstrated that the cerebellum was intact and that the physicians, including myself, who had thought that they had observed cerebellar tissue must have mistaken macerated brain for cerebellar folia.” Dr. Michael Baden, the chief forensic pathologist for the HSCA, has an excellent explanation for why the Parkland doctors were mistaken. “The head exit wound was not in the parietal-occipital area, as the Parkland doctors said. They were wrong. “That’s why we have autopsies, photographs, and X-rays to determine things like this. Since the thick growth of hair on Kennedy’s head hadn’t been shaved at Parkland, there’s no way for the doctors to have seen the margins of the wound in the skin of the scalp. All they saw was blood and brain tissue adhering to the hair. And that may have been mostly in the occipital area because he was lying on his back and gravity would push his hair, blood, and brain tissue backward, so many of them probably assumed the exit wound was in the back of the head. But clearly, from the autopsy X-rays and photographs and the observations of the autopsy surgeons, the exit wound and defect was not in the occipital area. There was no defect or wound to the rear of Kennedy’s head other than the entrance wound in the upper right part of his head.” Baden’s observation makes sense when you see the autopsy photos that clearly show that the president’s thick hair, drenched in blood, is all going in the direction of the rear-matted tufts of bloody hair literally extending way beyond the rear of his head. It bears repeating that the autopsy report only mentioned damage to the cerebrum (front), not the cerebellum. The xrays CLEARLY show the exit wound at the right FRONT. The Zapruder film itself couldn’t possibly provide better demonstrative evidence. The film proves conclusively, and beyond all doubt, where the exit wound was. Zapruder frame 313 (when the president’s head exploded) and frame 328 (almost a second later) clearly show that the large, gaping exit wound was to the right front of the president’s head. The back of his head shows no such large wound and clearly is completely intact. A 1993 article in JAMA reported that “the odds that a trauma specialist will correctly interpret certain fatal gunshot wounds are no better than the flip of a coin.” A study conducted by investigators at Bowman Gray School of Medicine at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, from 1987 to 1992, compared the post-mortem findings of a board-certified forensic pathologist with the medical records of emergency medicine physicians, trauma surgeons, and neurosurgeons. It was discovered that out of forty-six cases, trauma specialists made errors in 52 percent, either in differentiating the exit and entrance wound or in determining the number of bullets. In 15 percent of the cases, the trauma specialist made both types of error. As expected, multiple gunshot wounds (the situation with the president) were more often misinterpreted, accounting for 74 percent of the errors. Even single gunshot wounds were misclassified in 37 percent of the cases. Even under the most optimum of circumstances, people’s perceptions of what they think they saw are more often than not seriously conflicting. For instance, there’s the famous law school experiment where the professor has someone run into the classroom and do several things (such as speak some words, pick up a book, turn over a small trash can, etc.), then immediately run out. The students, sitting calmly in their seats with nothing to do except observe what is taking place in front of them, give wildly divergent descriptions of the person, his clothing, and his conduct. Yet here we have the Parkland doctors, in the middle of their desperate attempt to save the life of the most powerful man on earth, and with absolutely no need or desire on their part to determine the correct physical characteristics of his wounds, and the conspiracy theorists expect them, in the chaotic frenzy of the moment, to make observations that should be treated like immutable mosaic truths, trumping photographs and X-rays and subsequent contrary conclusions by the autopsy surgeons and all other pathologists who have studied and examined the available evidence. CTers are very much mistaken.

[@mezchr]

there was both a front and back head shot

[@shawndavis2977]

This guy really believes Oswald killed him this is BS .

[@vernpascal1531]

Yes, he should watch the Z Film sometime.

[@alanholloway1264]

check the evidence...Oswald did it alright.

[@vernpascal1531]

@@alanholloway1264 Only if you deny the statements and testimony of the X-Ray Tech,Nurses,Doctors,Autopsy Assistants..you know those who actually saw the body.

[@grobbs666]

@@vernpascal1531 tell me the names of the specific people you are talking about. Because you clearly haven't done the research for yourself based on what you said. So tell me who you specifically are referring to.

[@columbmurray]

'Alleged' assassin. How frighten everyone is now being bullied.

[@allancove4483]

Hypothetical question here; Did it ever dawn on anyone, had the feds allowed the city of Dallas (which had LEGAL jurisdiction on doing JFK's autopsy at the time) to simply do the autopsy on JFK, that would've put to rest & an end too any &/or all conspiracy's as to whether Oswald acted alone or not? But instead, the feds took JFK back to Bethesda & did their own autopsy & then destroyed the notes afterwards. And THAT is what started all the conspiracy's. Just one more way the government tried to cover their ass's. And they only did that, because it would match the governments own conspiracy theory, that Oswald acted alone. Now, had Dallas done the autopsy, how much you wanna bet that the autopsy done in Dallas WOULD NOT MATCH the governments own conspiracy theory? Thus I give you, the reason why the government took JFK out of Dallas & at gunpoint mind you, with the illegal removal of the President's body. Like I always say, there were TWO conspiracy's on November 22nd, 1963. You had the conspiracy of murdering the President, & then you had the conspiracy too cover it up. And like they say, if you can get away with murdering the President, what CAN'T you get away with? And always remember people, things don't just happen, everything is planned. Just saying.

[@robertromero8692]

A conspiracy is not necessary to explain why jfk's body was taken to Washington so quickly. They wanted to get the hell out of Dallas.

[@allancove4483]

@@robertromero8692 Yeah, so they could cover their ass.

[@robertromero8692]

@@allancove4483 Jackie Kennedy very much wanted to get out of Dallas. Was she part of the conspiracy?

[@allancove4483]

@@robertromero8692 Who's to say? But 80% of Americans don't believe Oswald acted alone number one. And even our own government which includes the House Select Committee have said upon a second investigation, they don't believe the truth was told & lest not forget, there's no statute of limitations on murder, so if in fact the killer is still alive & he happens to be discovered, well it's like I said, there's no statue on limitations when it comes to murder & you can still be brought to trial on that, & I'll leave it at that. So believe what you want kid.

[@robertromero8692]

@@allancove4483 "Who's to say?" IOW, you think it's plausible that Jackie Kennedy WAS part of the conspiracy. That speaks volumes about you. "the House Select Committee have said upon a second investigation, they don't believe the truth was told" The HSCA confirmed the conclusions of the WC, with the sole exception of supposed "evidence" of a 4th shot on a recording of a policeman's mike. It was later determined by the National Science Foundation that that recording did NOT have evidence of a 4th shot. But I suppose you think THEY'RE part of the "gigantic conspiracy" too. You're all too typical of conspiracy nuts.

[@davidcouch6514]

Will look forward to completed work. Intriguing presentation. (Incidentally the speaker very much reminds me of a Psychologist who worked from an office next door whose Practice was solely evaluating police candidates for special, I guess SWAT, type assignments.). I can relate to the mentioned influences of the era, and concerning trying out other identities I recall several guys who were so straight and ideal JROTC upper ranked students who seemingly overnight turned into dropout hippies or even radical anarchists. Some grew out of it some demised early.

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

Yes. I think some of the dismissive remarks in this comment section might have to do with not relating to the ways being born before the Vietnam war might influence someone with a low sense of self trying to become that version of a man. Not that it was society's fault.

[@duststorm2699]

Thank you. Oswald's baby picture: no smile. At that young age, babies who have been neglected or mistreated ignore attempts to cajole them to smile for photos.

[@richardzion1828]

Wanted to be here for this!

[@leemoore9933]

Just with the facts and you really can't dispute them, LHO was about as guilty as anyone could be, how can you not see that.

[@r.c.miller6161]

Because the true facts and indisputable actual eyewitness films prove otherwise.

[@leemoore9933]

@@r.c.miller6161 No they simply do not, you and a stupid movie that was fictional and made in hollywood to sell tickets and thats what 99% of conspiracy theroist go by, smh.

[@louf7178]

Yes, it may not be the only thing, but lots (subjectively) add up.

[@GetMeThere1]

I put in 27 minutes...but I can't go on. How can someone waste people's time with such a disjointed presentation like this?

[@bbt305]

Intrinsically Futile

[@davidmurphy5405]

I was an outsider just moved to a small town . I joined the civil air patrol as an old OSS-RAF- MC raider took an interest in me and tapped me on the shoulder at 12 at the historic congregational church. Masons go to historical churches in hopes they will be making history...like the last mason dummy...and yes I joined the marines and had a few failures in my life. And you know I could have gone that way but the training. I'm from an old family of lawyers and senators and such. I'm sure the people around me were all connected to the top and were capable of doing whatever it took. And the veil went up and I got to meet the man behind the curtain and lifes natural course went on. And I know I would have liked to shot Nixon but I had orders not to. It's called the constitution and ten commandments get past all that and I'm just taking orders but damn it I couldn't sleep at night knowing what I know and I'm not even a competent juror. I'd probably let em go. I'd shoot the victim ... I'd give a medal to dillinger. Let's face it I'm the kid in the back row with the test answers on his forehead ...i was found lately pressing elevator buttons waiting for the candy bar to drop out

[@lr8607]

A clinical psychologist can't diagnose someone with whom they have not consulted. Apart from that observation, one needs to bear in mind that if Oswald had been tried then character evidence would likely not have been admissible. Amateur psychoanalysis of a deceased subject -- and this definitely falls into that category -- is unworthy of being included as part of a topic as serious as presidential assassination. Spoiler alert: This guy even quotes Pete Townsend's "Behind Blue Eyes." Now I know he can't possibly be serious.

[@mauiswift6391]

What are your credentials?