Town Hall 17 will be EVEN EASIER than Town Hall 16 - Here's why | Town Hall 17 Updates Clash of Clan

[@ShocKClashofClans]

Ignore everything I said about the apprentice warden! I have no idea what I'm talking about 😂😭

[@taqwinhalid2674]

You need ☕😅

[@victorodulate7548]

I immediately ran to the comments because of that comment.😂😂

[@darshiljoshi6052]

the thing is supercell tried to nerf hero charges ( that firespitter thing can target healers behind the hero and townhall has longer range meaning it can also throw like one or two rocks towards the healers, warden charges might still be fine against all these tho) Although i don't think air attacks will be as meta, all these changes with the th having lot less dps, removal of th poison and new op thrower troop make those easier to execute ground based smash attacks all the more powerful than before, making th17 easier than before

[@Bad3abdul]

ricochet canon in the corner looking

[@Vaztar_]

Blizzard & Super Archer shining in this new TH.

[@Reversely]

And tbh it's gonna make the game more spammy and less skills, charges have literally shaped war attacks for more than 10 years. It requires basic understanding of funneling and a bit of mastery, although you can still charge th16 below, the environment of attacks for th17 would be significantly different. I say spam since it's more likely heading to smash attacks now.

[@uLa5er]

Im just waiting for the thrower walks at th6

[@Bad3abdul]

@@Reversely 😂

[@mike.87.87]

Hopefully they nerf that spear thrower so it won’t be that much easier. Loved how hard th16 was after the Druid nerf. Made you work for 3 stars

[@mike.87.87]

And hide the giga bomb to attackers. Easily countered or even baited as it stands

[@Wumpus-m9h]

@@mike.87.87also add the th17 a big health buff and little dmg buff

[@amansorariॐ]

They just boosted the spear I highly doubt it will be nerfed this soon

[@Galacsia]

I like the separation of the TH with the explosion. It de-concentrates defensive power over the base, widening offensive composition possibilities. Unfortunately I dislike that overall it's going to be easier because: 1. The th16 weapon was replaced by a weaker one. 2. There's no poison effect after the th destruction. 3. The new defense doesn't seem to make up for the loss in dps of the TH. I don't care for the removal of the Eagle. It barely does anything. It's mostly there to take out your healers and your clean-up when u failed an attack.

[@ShocKClashofClans]

Well said

[@devbokadia8381]

Sorry I think you never noticed because eagle shot come from air it looks like the damage is done by other defences but it always the eagle 😅

[@rudrakshguntuka6171]

This probably is the language of a spammer. One who does queen/warden charges never ignores eagle , that thing can kill your heroes through ability sometimes.

[@Sltd18601]

honestly i don’t think there will ever be anything that is cooler than the eagle

[@fari5hazim797]

Th 17 weapon is so much better than th 16 only thing sucks about is the removal of the poison death damage

[@Mo_Bhasin]

Friend showed me ur channel since you were using a lot of the same ideas to defend in LL that I came up with independently. Since then you have become one my favorite analysis channels. Hope I’m not too late for the giveaway! Also hope you do some more base building content! I probably won’t be pushing high legends this month, but plan to resume in the following month!

[@mike.87.87]

It was fun learning how armies work instead of just mindlessly placing troops to get an easy 3. Kinda defeats the fun if you know everything will work without any effort/practice. Just keep general air or ground approach and wow another 3, amazing…

[@NotZeddi]

I'm really worried about the townhall change, especially the absence of the classic eagle artillery

[@vishaljoshi2856]

Coc is now become more easier to attack there is a time when 3 star is rare

[@bloroxcleach3439]

The new th littarly looks weaker than the current town hall and their will be no eagle

[@Wumpus-m9h]

Yeah sc didnt even buff the hp of the th its bad

[@SmirkeD17]

i had the exact same thoughts regarding hydra. also noticed warden walk FB strats received no buffs other than new hero levels so it may lower the clear rate by a tiny bit

[@abdellatifmegharbel9595]

Totally agree with your takes here, I will say I think th17 will be equivalent to th16 in terms of difficulty as the giga bomb is now a lot more damage than the old one, but where you say the artillery is really weak and the loss of the poison is huge, I actually used to agree but after thinking about it I think it's really hard to tell as of now. You're comparing the two townhalls apples to apples, when really they are super different defenses. I think th16 attack doctrine was either get the townhall by a high value accessory or end on it. Such as using rc for th or using overgrowth to make it the last building standing. For th17 I think base building will change so that the townhall is heavily protected in the center so that it reaches it value. The giga inferno and poison were super insane and always got tons of value in bad attacks. I think the new weapon if placed correctly will get good value even in good attacks.

[@stevenhenderson-white5264]

Shock these sneak peeks are disappointing. First, the eagle is not being merged, it’s being deleted and replaced with a multi lava launcher on the rooftop. Second, the new hero looks absolutely stupid. I almost prefer the little prince from CR than a naked minion with a cape. I’ve played this game for nearly 10 years, is it me or is SC trying to make this game easy enough for a 3rd grader?!? I hope I’m wrong and maybe there is something fun about this update I’m overlooking.

[@Skibidi.fam3499]

Ur channel is growing💪🏻 keep it up

[@bowii9993]

Very first inital reactions is that town hall is wayyyyyyy weaker and new signature defences dont make up for it at all

[@Akash77133]

losing eagle is more heartbreaking

[@Aero_ClashofClans]

The eagle will be missed! Great vid Shock!

[@limjingheng186]

I feel like air attack is going to be the meta with the minion prince

[@William94559]

I miss the days when the eagle was the biggest threat and people actually worried about it.

[@oliverrepp131]

Air defence having 2 Supercharges that add DPS + a new air sweeper level that blows back 1 tile further might be enough to balance out what other buffs air got. Maybe

[@robmarth2226]

you forgot to add new air hero into that equation LOL

[@33niboR]

Yeah I feel like TH16 + eagle was more deadly

[@dhanaprakash8504]

You'll be missed Eagle 🦅😢

[@ryankott1669]

You nailed it! I've ran so many different armies this past year. It kept it fresh and fun. I hope th17 is similar

[@Yerrvo]

First thing I noticed watching these reveals was the town hall seems way weaker and the trade off for losing the eagle isn’t worth it, the game is already too easy I don’t get why they’re trying to make it easier

[@pindaopazijn]

Found your channel 3 days ago and I'm so glad I did, your content is exactly what I was looking for and you seem like a super chill guy, keep it up man!

[@JuLL.1]

There are too many speculations saying that TH 17 weapons are weak, but you don't know how scary the DoT effect is, and also it's an active defence.

[@ShocKClashofClans]

We'll have to see! Obviously there's speculation because we don't have a lot to go off of. But I really do get the feeling the TH will be fairly easy to deal with. I'll just overgrowth anything scary around it and destroy the TH and won't even have to worry about a bomb or poison

[@claymoffatt4718]

Just pulling shit from his ass. He just literally took itzus video and talked gibberish over it. He has no previous knowledge in it

[@fari5hazim797]

@@ShocKClashofClansthats just the same thing if you throw in a blimp that is filled with yetis or balloons and mix it with rage. You will not care if the troops are dead bcs u just want to destroy the townhall

[@PTRafityHD]

Love your in-depth videos, one of (if not) the best channel to learn complex attacks

[@calvinvelasco1679]

I agree, I think the revive spell being 2 housing space is very overpowered

[@Jack-jc1ht]

Good analysis man. It's always a pleasure to listen to someone who knows what he's doing.

[@Resh-3221]

people do not seem to realize its an active defence now. an active defence that does POISON with more range. imagine trying to fight the townhall without warden ability. and if your funnel goes wrong, your entire army will be poisoned for a long time. super cell is gonna buff it eventually if players find a way to deal with it easily (because no giant bomb means you can clone loon blimp it and about 25 raged bloons are in the core of the base) super cell is just seeing if implementing a defence with ACTIVE POISON would be too op.

[@ShocKClashofClans]

The damage from what I've seen seems a bit underwhelming but we haven't really had a good look at it so that's a good point. But for me the scariest part of the town hall is gone now - and the eagle too. Guess we'll have to see, but honestly I would love to be wrong!

[@ene526]

it doesnt have active poison, it has fire, which has no slowing effect and no ramping damage, a static 75 dps that doesnt stack when multiple firepits are on the one space...

[@Bad3abdul]

@@ShocKClashofClans based on carbon fin's vid you can just place the giga bomb where you speculate a blimp to land and all the loons will die

[@MrWaheedrehman]

​@@Bad3abdul giga bomb is not a hidden trap, why would someone drop his blimp on a visible bomb?

[@Bad3abdul]

@@MrWaheedrehman because you wanted to drop a loon blimp in the place of most value

[@DoughtyWolf]

Love it so far, can't wait for TH17, thanks for the videos, strats, replays and live attacks. Have a blessed Sunday!

[@Mo_Bhasin]

Agree with your takeaway, I wish at 5500+ hardmode would activate in LL, and something about wars being a constant draws. However, outside of that I enjoyed TH16.

[@AmanSharma74747]

I totally agree with u, I also enjoyed th16 alot as it allows us to try and use a wide variety of army, I had alot of fun using different armies throughout the year, I wish it could be harder than it is, but it was fun..

[@NickTx823]

Hi, just found your channel, great info here, i can't wait for all the new upgrades and looking forward to lvl 100 heroes!

[@taqwinhalid2674]

- Smash army will stronger, just keep freezing the TH or use Overgrowth spell to avoid the damage from the TH.. - Super archer / sup minion clone will be comeback (but we can still stop them with a good base especially the traps placement) - Starting Lalo from the TH is no more problem again because no more explosion and poison from TH, just keep freeze and warden ability. It's so hard to sui hero to the TH (except we use new spell to revive our hero) That's why I am disappointed with this update, the merging totally remove the power of TH and eagle. We will miss the 50 range of the eagle! 😓 We talk about base building, most good bases so far are if the TH and eagle have quite a distance to prevent getting both. If the attacker gets eagle then there is still TH, if the attacker gets TH there is still eagle. That's why if merged makes us think it will be easier.. But hopefully I'm wrong, let's see later 🗿

[@KaiserM3]

disagree with you pal, is very easy to sui hero the TH specially now that doent have posion. now you dont have to worry about the eagle so you can funnel your way into the th and you would be just fine. Also other mistake you made, it wont be easier for loons over the th, because now when the th hits your troops it left a posion in every hit, so the th doesnt have a poison after destroying but have little small poison in every hit that can cause damage to troops with low life, like loons, so this could force you to use spells early or to use the ability early... before, loons over the TH was really easy if you used the loons before the 50% because the Th activated basically with the loons over it with no chance to hit the loons. and you used warden ability and rage and you could scape the th... now mechanics will be, use the ability early if not those loons will go down with little poison hits. Using lalo with this update will be a disadvantage, all new defenses cause splash damage that can destroy troops with low life..... welcome to spam city, again. Either way, this game is getting worse and worse, they are turning this strategy game into an infantile game.... son the game will say, for ages between 4 and 9 y.o

[@taqwinhalid2674]

​@@KaiserM3I said hard to sui to the TH because so far if we sui to TH before activated it's very easy, we only get damage from other defenses.. But TH17 will active when our hero in range of TH, so much damage from TH + arround defenses.. We will see later And I said keep freeze (it means freeze the TH) when we start lalo from there, so no damage from TH until we activate warden ability. After TH down no more explosion + poison. I always use lalo in every single TH level whatever the meta, this is my favorite army.❤ And yes, the last time this game was the good strategy was at TH 15 days. Since TH16 the power of the hero is too excessive especially equipments like Fireball. But we will see how good TH17, we only need the balance between offensive and defensive. 👀

[@KaiserM3]

@@taqwinhalid2674 that's why I say, is easier if you funnel your way into the TH, like with lightnings or flame flinger or a blimp, so your heroes goes directly to the TH, Th's hits doesn't cause too much damage to heroes but well we will see. Also yes you could use the early spell on th, but if you are using zap Lal, like 7-1 you don't have many spells, we could handle it anyway, but is a disadvantage next to Dragons, titans, RR, S Witches, etc. I use Lalo too, since early days in th9 first hybrid or QW, but i like to switch hits using hogs, or qc super barbarian, skelly donuts lalo, etc... i can spam too but i like to use some brain in my hits, instead of some easy fireball with Sup witches

[@wenkz1248]

Yoo, removing poison from the th is a huge nerf

[@yhs2791]

love your content, keep it going man!

[@bradleymewton7598]

I thought the same dude for the base building . Buy if u think about it for fireball armies buildings are gonna be spaced out more due to more merging giving space for the new buildings so warden walks with just 2 or 3 of those beasts is gonna be sick

[@mdabid2119]

Awesome video as always

[@valakut6617]

The team at supercell is most definitely aware of the balancing issues th16 had and they intend to make th17 harder, so even if they mess it upon release and it ends up being easier, they will probably balance it out later

[@joshlindley8849]

Will be interesting to see how much stronger defence becomes with the new defences and additional Multi Archer + Ricochet Canon

[@riskdefianc3]

The only thing this has nerfed is squishy spamming kind of armies

[@subediankur3289]

Hopefully we get to see the wildest strategies at th17

[@narozeniny2]

Great video as always! 🙂

[@danieljackle1342]

Great video!

[@ayushbarai8875]

I think, because supercell killed hero charges, clone blimp attacks and hero dive armies are gonna be really really good on th17. I'd still waiting and watch for the pros to max things out day 1 and let us know the details on how they feel the meta will go around. Personally I think that sui lalo would still be the best army at th17 as well.

[@emwols]

Don’t underestimate the effect that an extra ricochet cannon and multi archer tower will have on defense, they are super strong defenses and very tanky too. Add in tanky and strong fire spitters as well and there is definitely a solid boost to defense. We will see though

[@Ad_Dystopia]

Think it's actually 2 Multi Archer Towers. They'll surely make up for the loss of defensive power in the TH and Eagle. The question is how big the defensive gain is. Also looking forward to see how base builders will make TH17 work. Will probably need very decentralized bases. Now TBF, there will be another reveal today, so maybe that makes TH17 look a bit stronger.

[@Bad3abdul]

@@Ad_Dystopia it's 3 not 2

[@Ad_Dystopia]

@@Bad3abdul That definitely isn't true. You don't even have enough Archer Towers to make 3 more Multi Archer Towers.

[@Bad3abdul]

@@Ad_Dystopia it's 3 lol you should check sneak peak one they show off the 3 multis and richochet canons

[@emwols]

It’s 3 total. It’s 1 new one for th17. Plus an additional normal archer tower which I am sure they will merge at th18

[@COCSV01]

Shock is growing fast🔥 ... Live when update drops ?

[@iant6943]

im sure supercell did some thinking. its basic principle that the next townhall lvl is supposed to be stronger than its predecesor. we just dont have the numbers yet on the new defenses they're prob a lot stronger than ur assuming

[@nogmun2078]

Nice vid 🤙

[@jvkatipunan2974]

Great vid!

[@lemonsqueezy6120]

keep going man, ur contents are great

[@bigitkrishnagoswami7322]

I agree with u on this @shock, legend league should be a bit harder as coompared to other leagues. Your content is amazing and really helpful.

[@joemixon680]

love your content bro!

[@danidavidthomas3372]

Love your content..keep it up bro❤

[@clashhuntr]

Nice explain thrower blimp looks safe and destructive 🔥

[@vvlad355]

Great video 😊

[@joppols3825]

Now that Townhall 17 is almost live i am looking forward to new attacking and defending strategie videos. I am curious to which videos you gonna make as a content creator for SG.

[@genericname108]

Of course there’s no way of knowing now, and the chances of these sneak peeks being final is slim. But I’m am worried that this update will make defence completely pointless, since attacking is already stupid easy.

[@M4ahmed04]

I want that gold pass so bad🙂

[@Rikam_Vamp]

I hope supercell give us some more achievements to earn gems because i have done my 95% of achievement so only way to earn gems for me is obstacles

[@henrikniklander1779]

I hope sc will bring poison back to th after they found out game is toasted. I play game and figth whole 3min to get a star out of my attack more likely than use 1min to get 3 star

[@saitama53034]

I hope to get a gold pass as a f2p 😅

[@maverickx4615]

Thx for the awesome content …. Very gud tips and update information

[@HeywoodBanks-f2t]

Interesting! Itzu is pretty awesome too. Thanks

[@SakshamMalhotra-x7k]

Much Love Dawg

[@enolive138]

Great content as always. New lvl for Giants seems so out of place with the rest. I feel Meta will change a lot. Keep it up!...

[@theonlycolby]

Hard mode wars with more ore is what I want

[@renegonzalez1103]

love the vids ❤

[@AnilBasnet97]

Thank you for informativs video.🎉

[@MrSiiuuu-l2q]

And Supercell wants more money 🤑🤑

[@craigthompson9886]

Thanks Shock 👍

[@Vishnu12398]

Congratulations for 9k

[@dangerscouser]

Im glad they allowed streaks to stay with a draw and the draw is all based on stars..it allowed clans to build up streaks that kept the game interesting

[@tonyvlip]

Clash has really stepped up it's game with TH 16 and should be same for TH 17... Really appreciate the transparency of what to expect and WHEN it's gonna drop... I am so ready and prepared with my 3 maxed TH 16 accts

[@kevinduong9001]

Can't wait for sneak peak #3 showcasing the minion prince and other changes

[@nyrsavery16]

Seems like they are focusing on air attacks with mostly air troops getting upgrades

[@squirrelyweasel3866]

Love the channel. 👍

[@Dyetrix1]

The new defense and troops seem pretty cool tbh.

[@JealousMC]

Love the channel!

[@AAestheticFilms]

Just on th16..still learning new attacks and here is th17...

[@Logan_w1012]

I agree/disagree to an extent the new core defense will be pretty solid and I think we might go back into double rage defense meta since the fire spitter does crazy damage with rage and the TH might have a crazy impact under rage spell as well

[@crab1018]

Did you even watch it us vid? He said to use life gem because the apprentice warden will sit go in front of everything

[@wiltdastilt]

Yea, I agree with you. I think TH17 will be somewhat easier than 16. But, let's see how it goes.

[@kingreinhardtz]

Nice and useful content

[@RoyalRoad246]

Great video

[@_DiamondSpeed]

As a th14, I'm hoping that I can reach th16 or 17 this year, especially with all the cost and time reductions. And I'm also a hydra main so this update is gonna be really fun

[@LShaull-qw5um]

U never know where the difficulty gonna land until the base builders get a month or so to find the new tricks. Every th been like that. And supercell will buff and nerf depending on where it lands to.

[@bilalsayeed4476]

The combo of scatter and and flame def gonna be boom baam now💀

[@KiwiGladiusLucis]

I'm only stuck with a certain set of Army because of slow progression on my part.

[@owen5585]

It sure was fun when attacking but also felt a bit frustrating when you're on the receiving end not being able to defend anything

[@ShocKClashofClans]

@@owen5585 100% this

[@KaiserM3]

i think the same, the fact that the TH dont have posion is a demolishing change. it will be extremely easy for spam, is a shame

[@someonerational]

I personally like easy stuff as well. Because it gives me a bit of a breathing room to try out a lot of armies and have fun

[@miric3427]

I really like your approach

[@rohanm3723]

No th poison will be strange to adapt to after dealing with it for years. Seems like a nerf

[@SDseb]

I agree with TH17 potentially being easier than TH16, and I'm fine with that. I've played the game on and off since 2012, and currently I enjoy being able to use different armies and still do well with them while not being too easy. Life moves forward and as an adult now with a job and other life routines, it's nice being able to relax on this game and enjoy the journey that I have with it, as well as continue to make new memories along the way.

[@aosifefe]

nice evaluation

[@SigSauerP226HollowPoints]

I am very worried about them removing the eagle, also the overgrowth spell is such a gimmick that ruins the game imo

[@TamimHessan]

Nice vid

[@discopotato675]

Don't sleep on the fire spitter. And the TH won't be a push over either.

[@uLa5er]

That th14 guy from the other video is insane