💥 Toy Resellers VS Toy Scalpers 💥 Is There a Difference ⁉️

[@Spongemonkey26]

A scalper is someone who buys up local inventory of a needed/wanted item with the intent to deprive others of it so they can resell it at a much greater marked up price.

[@TheIslandViper]

Correct. Hence controlling the supply.

[@giltucker2007]

A big to differ. Their intent is not a deprived others scalpers usually don't care about others they care about making money on the item it's not like they do it for the intent to deprive others of getting something that makes absolutely no sense

[@Spongemonkey26]

@giltucker2007 it makes all the sense because in theory depriving others of finding something at retail increases the chances a scalper can sell at a higher price.

[@TheTartarsaws]

People seem to have a problem with “fair market value” after an item is no longer available. THAT is not scalping, just butt hurt people when their sense of entitlement fails Also props to dropping knowledge on retail

[@TheIslandViper]

💯 Entitlement mentality. Happy to get some info out there!!

[@Matts79Z28]

Yeah several folks in a local toy group called me a scalper for trying to sell my vintage(1977-84 star wars figures) 2 years ago. I realized then that alot of people just complain to complain.

[@makumusik]

Suggesting that companies raise their prices because of scalpers, rather than due to production costs, is the wildest and craziest thing I’ve ever heard since I started collecting 😐

[@jamespaul6315]

Yeah thats pretty silly tbh

[@spadedonemcdysentery2493]

An $80 retail Marvel Legend may scare a scalper away but I’d imagine it’d do the exact same thing to any customers as well and probably completely decimate any children’s market you have entirely.

[@jamespaul6315]

@@spadedonemcdysentery2493 yeah there is zero way I would continue buying at that price, thats insane

[@TheIslandViper]

You kind of missed the point. The rhetoric seems due more to the fact that they don’t like the fact that someone else is making profits they aren’t. If they don’t think they’re getting enough money for their products, they should raise their prices. Consumers will buy it, or they won’t.

[@jamespaul6315]

@@TheIslandViper they have a right to be upset if someone is scalping product . Its their product. Period. You arent buying it as a private buyer, it reflects on them as a company if they sell to people scalping.

[@aaroneaston8899]

I match your sentiment. Valaverse Trigger at one point was selling for almost $200. If you want aftermarket prices to drop, produce more, which he eventually did. DC Direct TAS Batwing is up for pre-sale again. Some bought it resale at after-market rate or waited. I purchased 2 Warbirds from Target because it allowed a saving of $7 free shipping. I sold the other, which was cost plus shipping + eBay fees, and I had two would be buyers crying on eBay to sell it to them for retail shipped. If I put it up for auction, starting at $1, they still would not have got their lowball dream price. Which proves the market dictates the cost.

[@TheIslandViper]

People wanting to regulate pricing, who aren’t even in the market to buy. They just wanted to flip it.

[@yorktownjoe]

I figure if I get an extra figure and sell it to a buddy at cost + shipping, that's okay. If someone programs a bot to buy up all of an Amazon exclusive at cost and then sets up another bot to sell it on their own Amazon store front for double, that would be a scalper.

[@TheIslandViper]

That’s very accurate, and happens with a lot of products.

[@mikerea4961]

If I don't like a price, I don't buy. I grew up in a time where you had to make choices. I've got no problem missing things because I'm not a completeist. I try to get what I want for a price I'm willing to pay.

[@TheIslandViper]

Bro we are still in a time where most of us have to make choices. That’s the best way to approach it though, with any hobby really. Things can usually be worked out eventually to get what you want.

[@davidallen6880]

Exactly, Terry. Couldn't have said it better . I see this all the time at Walmart.

[@TheIslandViper]

Trading card guys are the worst with it.

[@JoePal-c3n]

Well, if you’re making costumes that’s different as long as you don’t overcharge too much lol What there is people that buy whole collections you’re not gonna spend 50,000 or 30,000 and then they give deals to people

[@TheIslandViper]

Exactly. If you’re selling, you’re in it to make a profit.

[@Roadpigjohn]

This is a very interesting subject man and the example of the Haslab is 100% true...😃💡☕️👍

[@TheIslandViper]

HasLabs are available pretty much to everyone. Want it bad enough, there are plenty of ways to make the cash for it over the course of a month. I mean.. donate plasma if need be, and if one can. Sell stuff you don’t want as much.

[@ToyAttics]

I feel like I've seen the title of this before....

[@TheIslandViper]

Or some variation of it. Lol!

[@sgame82]

In my mind a scalper is someone who cleans out a shelf of an item and then goes to nearby stores to try to buy all of those items. Resellers buy more used or old items

[@TheIslandViper]

But is buying up old items to resell not also scalping?

[@sgame82]

@@TheIslandViper No because it's not some new and in demand item. Like i would say buying up all the PS5s when they came out and then selling them for a ton more is scalping. Buying a couple clearance or older or used items that don't have the same demand and marking them up a bit isn't scalping. But that's just my opinion.

[@retrojoe8290]

Yes there is.. scalpers r just selfish A'holes. As a person whos family owns a antique mall, I have a booth that I sell mostly vintage toys (I find them, fix them, clean them up, and touch up paint). I absolutely love to give old toys a new life to get enjoyed for another 20 years. I try to sell at resonable prices, honestly the joy on my customers faces when I find or fix their childhood memories or holy grails is enough for me. Yo Freaking Joe!

[@TheIslandViper]

The problem is that people could even consider that scalping. It’s not, but I’m sure you get my point.

[@curtislangford3181]

A Scalper is Someone who engages in "Denial of Inventory" for the purposes of commerce beyond a fair market price based on reasonable supply and demand for a commodity.

[@TheIslandViper]

Another one who gets it! Thank you!

[@JoePal-c3n]

You own it then you sell it for what you want but if your prices are too high no one will buy. It’s simple so the market also corrects the over pricing. I would never pay $400 for a figure period. Lmao 😂 so the market will dictate if you way over price something no one will buy it.

[@TheIslandViper]

Some people can’t seem to grasp that.

[@trevormcguire6984]

Ive been selling off a lot of my collection to fund new stuff. If Im selling a figure that is going for $60, but only costed $20 at retail, am I supposed to just sell it for $40 less than the going rate? Hell no, that is so dumb. After it's all said and done, its only about a $20 profit and there are a lot of figures that just don't sell. Im not selling my collection away for pennies and im not trying to cash in a huge profit. There are some borderline clinically insane people trying to talk you down on a friggin toy that is priced as the cheapeat listing already

[@TheIslandViper]

To some, that would technically be scalping. Honestly… in my personal opinion, these people are insufferable. They’re just looking for things to whine about.

[@trevormcguire6984]

@@TheIslandViper and those people spent way too much time in the birth canal

[@JoePal-c3n]

Another great video

[@TheIslandViper]

Thank you!

[@filetmignon4446]

Solid Video. I can't handle scalpers in a world where everything has a big chance to be limited or cancelled, especially during rough market times with plastics and goods, shipping etc. I lost it on a scalper at toys r us and found out the manager was in on it. Thought that kind of thing was only in the usa targets and walmarts but nope.. up here in canada BIG TIME. Sucks but try not to lose your cool on them but also report them to your local toy groups on social media is a better option imo.

[@Roadpigjohn]

So true man... 😀✌️💡👍

[@TheIslandViper]

💯

[@Kuroketsu]

My question is, where is all this heat for the guy who pays the 'scalper' 3-4 times the MSRP on a new figure that just came out? So many are lining up for battle with their white armor and their spears against the person who charges too much. I could probably count the number of times on my hand that I've heard any of them also hold the enablers accountable. If more buyers would hold to their feelings on the actual value of items, the secondary market prices would be a lot lower by necessity. Once that happens, incentive is lost and the whole problem diminishes from where it is now at the very least.

[@TheIslandViper]

All of this. I think it’s mostly just made up outrage to be honest. The people paying more want the items, and don’t care what they pay to get them. Most of the ones complaining about the prices weren’t interested in buying to begin with. I do see that all the time, from some of the same people.

[@jamespaul6315]

If you buy something just to resell it for more than retail, whats the difference between that and a scalper? Its the same thing on a small scale. So if its about scale, thats the only difference. And why would someone buy something at inflated mark ups? I know people do but expecting them to just shut up and buy it without complaint is kinda silly

[@TheIslandViper]

If it’s a profitable venture, people are going to do it. If there’s demand for a product, people will buy it.

[@jamespaul6315]

@@TheIslandViper sure, you can say that about drugs and slavery too. It doesnt make something right

If both are cleaning out the shelves of toys to sell them i see no difference between them since i rather buy toys in store when i want them and not pay the extra shipping inflating the price even more . A scalper is someone selling product for two or three times the retail price ,we know exactly what a scalper is .

[@TheIslandViper]

Who has made the determination on profit margin?

@@TheIslandViper most of them just throw a absurd number out there and see who bites

[@JoePal-c3n]

They have laws against that for concert tickets

[@TheIslandViper]

Yeah they do. They also have laws against dealing drugs.

[@_Kimberlin]

great video with a lot of valid points

[@TheIslandViper]

Thank you sir!

[@daviddonnell2153]

They're just filler titles but they did hold up well back in the day

[@TheIslandViper]

“Scalper” has become the go to invisible boogie man to blame for people sleeping on stuff they don’t want until they figure out it’s not going to Ross/Ollie’s.

[@JoePal-c3n]

It’s also like the Hasbro marketing line. They sell out right away so all the toys go to places like big bad toy store entertainment instead of just filling customer orders they’re filling orders for the bigger stores first before fans so Hasbro model of fans come first is a bunch of BS

[@TheIslandViper]

That’s not how that works.

[@ToddyCee]

It takes two parties to make a transaction, the seller and the buyer. So if someone out there is willing to pay the price the reseller set who cares. But I do think the mass resellers who use bots (which violates most website terms) and don’t pay their taxes on their profits are in the wrong versus the guy who’s able to grab a few extra copies of something and flips here and there.

[@TheIslandViper]

Oh man… like with sneakers. Some of the worst times trying to beat the bots for drops.

[@LloydChristmas-vx2wh]

Who cares? The guy that only wanted to buy one, but some scalper bought up the supply and sold it to a scalper enabler.

[@ToddyCee]

⁠@@LloydChristmas-vx2wh no one cares except the folks who wanted something but didn’t get the chance to get it. But toys are items that people can live without. But I do think resellers who want to make a living off reselling should follow the same rules as folks who run a legitimate business.

[@shaneshooter9550]

Agree 100 percent.

[@JoePal-c3n]

I won’t buy it if they raise the prices too high

[@TheIslandViper]

Any you shouldn’t. The market will control it in that type of a situation.

[@tblade5678]

Love the video very well said. the simple truth is the same if you don't like the price then keep scrolling or walking.

[@TheIslandViper]

That, or work out some kind of deal to get it if you want it bad enough. Tons of people are willing to negotiate, but a lot of others are just trolls.

[@westcoastavengers1]

I think these GI Joe collectors buying all of the Cover Girls for $6 at Ross, should charge enough to make $6 profit. Charging 4 times what they paid plus shipping is too much.

[@TheIslandViper]

By what means did you come to the conclusion of that as a fair market value? I’m curious of your reasoning.

[@westcoastavengers1]

@@TheIslandViper For one thing there is a KZbin video by a woman. In the video we learn her husband is going to every Ross he can in Florida and buying all of the Cover Girls. Even she said, he should stop doing this.

[@JoePal-c3n]

Say you’re going to resell to get some other GIJoes or something that’s up to you. But way over selling or over pricing usually solves it’s self just look at the G.I. Joe Skys striker people bought 2 one to resell for a higher price like double or triple and they got burnt in it. Lmao. 😂 but if they would have sold it for the same price they paid then people might have bought it from them or if they only marked it up by a hundred then they might have sold some of them. Lmao 😂

[@TheIslandViper]

I broke even on my SkyStrikers. Kept two for myself. It was one of those chances I took that just didn’t pan out. The HISS, however, I did well with.

[@barfyman-dm6zx]

A scalper is also someone that scalps content without crediting the source

[@TheIslandViper]

What are you talking about?

[@JoePal-c3n]

Companies are just make way more like they did in the 80s suggesting to raise the price. That’s pretty steep man just because you’re buy and sell and make a lot of money. What about the rest of us?

[@TheIslandViper]

If you think I make a lot of money, you’re sorely mistaken. It’s more so to supplement my collecting costs. That was a hypothetical response to the fact that the video made it seem as though the toy maker was upset about other people profiting from their product. Make more of them, or charge more for them.

[@anthonyshepard1407]

Def Hasbro 100% low limited quantities Collectibles, No Limits per Buyer is gonna enrage alot especially if the collectible is a figure that has not been seen or made!

[@TheIslandViper]

Let’s face it… most people want the stuff that’s hard to get. Regardless of what they say… they love the rarity. Sooooooo many people cried and complained about the Once a Man Cobra Commander. Easy pass, blah blah blah. Now the majority of those same people want it at retail with free shipping because they slept on it, and it’s not as plentiful as they thought it would be.

[@ioncewasmikey]

​@TheIslandViper Yeah there is definitely the FOMO aspect. It's almost like a status thing to some people- "look what I have that you don't." And then that causes those who don't have something to want it more. Lol what a crazy hobby we all have

[@AToyKindaMood]

👀👀👀👀👀

[@westcoastavengers1]

What video?

[@jamespaul6315]

Valaverse.

[@mattbush3516]

Valaverse

[@JoePal-c3n]

There should be a chart for reselling because the free market is not so good when people jack up the prices way way tooo much

[@TheIslandViper]

But if they jack the price too much, it doesn’t sell.

[@johnzimmerman5641]

Nice try, scalper. ;)

[@TheIslandViper]

😂

[@JoePal-c3n]

Say if we sell our collections years later that’s not scalping. That’s passing it onto the next like when I sold off all my Star Wars I sold them for 1/3 price I paid just to give people deals

[@TheIslandViper]

Sure it is. You’re selling for more than retail, you’re scalping according to some. What makes age of the product matter?

[@ryzelrb]

Let's all be honest. Resellers and scalpers are the same. If you're buying something for more than retail price then it's for profit.

[@TheIslandViper]

Then retailers are also scalpers, because they buy something for less than MSRP, and sell it at retail. Nobody bats an eye at BBTS for jacking prices on pretty much everything they sell.

[@dark5cythe545]

Nope. Free market. Cope.

[@johnlatella674]

You're not wrong

[@TheIslandViper]

100%

[@JoePal-c3n]

Like a Jabba barge selling for over 10,000 and say a store like Walmart does that that’s stealthy scalping and even even on the Walmart site, they jack up the price after a year or two till like 3 to 5 times with the price should be so that’s scalping

[@TheIslandViper]

That’s not a thing.

[@JoePal-c3n]

If you’re buying something to resell and that’s the definition of scalping

[@TheIslandViper]

So retailers like Walmart, Target, and Hasbro Pulse are scalpers.

[@JoePal-c3n]

Anyone that goes to a store buys up all the action figures Just to resell should be blocked and they should lose their account and they should be charged for scalping because that ruins the whole experience for everyone, but they can’t reasonable price.

[@TheIslandViper]

Charged according to what law?

[@tompach5]

Respectfully disagree. A lot of your points are debative and can be easily argued. But I believe that one must strive to be cordial, and so I respectfully disagree.

[@TheIslandViper]

Argue the points.

[@JoePal-c3n]

Scalpers suck

[@TheIslandViper]

I agree, but everyone is a scalper.