Mojang Has A Favourite Version Of Minecraft (it's not the one you think)

[@lenunDun2un]

Microsoft likes bedrock because it makes them more money, mojang likes java because it’s local to them and they have more freedom to do what they want with it.

[@JmKrokY]

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[@roomygraphics]

That java advantage is slowly fading

[@emeraldhamster]

It also runs on an easier to code platform and is less jank, but bedrock is more cross platform which is good for profit

[@HackerDragon9999]

Moyang*

[@cooldude8547]

Only the original mojang employees who worked on Java edition perfer Java edition because that's the code they specialize in. If you ask any mojang employee who works in Seattle, they will all say the perfer bedrock because c++ is the code they specialize in

[@nobbyfirefly57]

Wel yeah, let’s not confuse Mojang with Microsoft. Plus Bedrock is developed in America, which has different regulations, laws, and work culture than Sweden. Also, the dev team in Sweden likely has more of the original developers, the ones from the beginning who are very passionate with their work, vs just hired for a job.

[@user-zz3sn8ky7z]

I don't know about the last part honestly, 12 years is a long time in modern work climate, I'm pretty sure that the OG developers are in a tiny minority these days, being restricted to just few flashy positions. Also I wouldn't equate "new dev = not passionate" necessarily in the first place, game dev is one of the few things people actively pick because they are passionate in it (at least at the start lol), there have to be plenty of new passionate devs, especially since it's minecraft of all games. I mean, KingbDogz is a very recent addition to the actual team and he's clearly very into minecraft

[@nobbyfirefly57]

@ @user-zz3sn8ky7z I worded it a little poorly, my bad. I don’t mean they’re not as passionate, but I’m not sure how to describe what I mean. Maybe it’s culture changes? Motivation? Either way, I feel like an OG developer might treat some things differently or think differently than a newer developer. One came when it was a tightly knit and small workplace. The other came to a corporate office. Some OG devs that are still around might retain some behaviour from the old company culture. Oh I almost forgot to mention the difficulty level of getting hired into Mojang also changing over the years. It’s more competitive now, so that probably attracts more ambitious devs, with ambitious attitudes. Idk. I’m not saying they’ll be less efficient. I’m just saying that their methods might be. They might follow orders well and code on schedule, but they might also not think outside the box on how to improve something. Even if they do, they might not do it because their boss might complain that they did a change they didn’t ask for.

[@toycat]

Some of java is developed in redmond, and some of the stockholm team are bedrock devs

[@nobbyfirefly57]

@@toycat @toycat ah thanks. So if it’s not a country work culture difference, what could be the reason for the two versions being managed so differently?

[@nobbyfirefly57]

@@user-zz3sn8ky7z idk why my replies keep vanishing

[@Nuclear-Owl]

In terms of bugs, I think there are two big reasons why people don't mind bugs on Java but hate them on Bedrock: firstly, Java bugs are 'funner'. Bugs like building on the Nether roof or piston quasi-connectivity only open up more possibilities for players, but bugs on Bedrock generally involve dying for no good reason or having blocks randomly disappear. And secondly, Java bugs (while arguably more nonsensical than Bedrock ones, eg. quasi-connectivity) are way more predictable than Bedrock ones, so they can be used to the player's advantage. For example, in Bedrock, powering two pistons both facing into the same block at the same time randomly picks one to extend, which makes Redstone harder to predict and therefore harder to work with - this doesn't happen on Java (the same piston will extend every time). But on Java, piston quasi-connectivity will ALWAYS work, so it makes Redstone (in this example) more reliable and easier to work with. I think you can probably tell I'm a redstoner 😂but it applies to other bugs/features too.

[@GagnesterLOL]

yeah, piston bud and quasi connectivity are like a feature in Java. This is adding soo much to the game that it will not be cool if they remove it. It's not like block permutation or items duplications that are broken and are like a cheat. This last two is normal to be remove from the game.

[@sandwichqueen]

​@@GagnesterLOLnot just like, they've became an actual feature.

[@Ivi-Tora]

Java is quirky. Bedrock is broken. That's the difference.

[@LegoBob4123]

Java is the favorite, Bedrock is the moneymaker, Console is the replaced, 3DS is the forgotten, Raspberry Pi is the super forgotten

[@CrazyBobcatStudios]

Rpi edition is fun tho

[@Supercoolusername-f4s]

And the most forgotten version is The Apple TV edition, no I'm serious it's a real thing look it up

[@yeshwantkota230]

@@Supercoolusername-f4s yeah it is but i don't have a apple tv

[@tcmine]

can't wait for apple carplay edition

[@Buzz.co2]

Web version is a corpse

[@CHASEJIMMYMN]

Don't let this distract you from the fact that ibx toy cat is powerful enough to use a guitar hero controller as a microphone

[@space7813]

I just noticed that he didn’t have a microphone

[@space7813]

Hey, guitars still make sound

[@kridengaming]

​@@space7813they make sound not listen to them

[@ninjanoodle2674]

The primary Mojang developers that make most (if not all) of the creative decisions regarding Minecraft and Minecraft features are all Java players, and Java is most definitely the favored version of the game. They added features to Java Edition with no care in the world as to whether those features were even possible to add to Bedrock Edition and simultaneously understaffed the Bedrock development of the game for so long that the list of features that were not just different but outright missing from Bedrock Edition became massive. It was a breath of fresh air to see Mojang not just talk about version parity but actually start doing something about it starting in 1.13, but the hole that they dug for themselves was so big that they are still trying to get out of it 5 years later. Mojang has made significant strides with version parity, but there are still so many things that directly affect gameplay that make the Java Edition play experience so much easier than playing on Bedrock Edition. I think that part of the issue is that so many shortcuts were taken and bad coding decisions were made in the early development of Bedrock Edition that they are having to fix a ton of back-end issues before getting to the actual parity features. It's frustrating to see this play out in real-time, but when you see something like off-hand usage being held up because Mojang is still trying to fix the mobile user UI issues and it becomes clear that the issues run deeper than many people realize. But the biggest frustration for Bedrock players is the total hypocrisy of Mojang in how the two versions are treated. Useful "bugs" are patched out of Bedrock almost immediately, while useful bugs in Java (TNT Duplication, Building on the Nether Roof) are left in the game and considered features (or "won't fix" bugs). Features were added to Java Edition that Mojang has stated that they won't add to Bedrock, but they won't remove them from Java Edition (the F3 Debug screen and other F3 features). They claim that they don't want to affect existing worlds, yet have no problem changing/breaking mechanics on Bedrock Edition with almost every update. Popular and useful Bedrock-only features are getting removed in the name of parity, while they hardly ever remove Java-only features. Despite the work that Mojang has been doing, parity between the two versions doesn't feel like the two-way street that it should be.

[@EnglishAaron]

I think it's a simple case of bedrock being a version focused more on profit and closed while Java is focused more on passion for the craft and open. Bedrock is well on it's way out with how many features are discontinued or being outright removed such as VR support, anything to do with shaders, and more.

[@frag4007]

@@EnglishAaronthats the thing bedrock isn’t on its way out. Its by far the most profitable and popular version of the game. Mojang is just scared of a few youtubers. Because realistically those are the people playing java

[@Flunium]

@@ninjanoodle2674 Not reading all that but just wanted to say that Java sucks

[@jeshirekitenkatt1212]

it's hard to beat the java version. if microsoft ever wanted bedrock to do well, honestly, they needed to dedicate more time to understanding why people play the game. like, bedrock could have been built from the ground up to support mods. we could have gotten a whole suite of official tools that work to make cross-platform mod content for the game instead of a storefront. Microsoft so completely dropped the ball on bedrock that it's almost laughable they ever thought it might ever do as well as java, for all of the java language's quirks and faults.

[@jespee]

spitting facts

[@vendetta.02]

i would argue that bedrock edition is a technically inferior product due to lack of modding support (no, marketplace addons dont count, those are paid dlc and also do not have the same "power" and general content adding ability that java mods have, marketplace addons are severely limited in scope compared to java mods which are basically total game conversions if you want them to be) Yes, bedrock has some pros over java, but basically every negative that java has can be modded out. want controller support on java? theres a mod for that, want better performance? theres many mods for that, want total game conversions? my my there are so many total game conversion mods for completely different genres and playstyles you cant even count. bedrock doesnt have such luxuries, really the only main benefit that cant be replicated on java is different device support (locked only to pc), but pc is the most powerful and versatile platform compared to basically any other gaming platform anyways so its not much of an issue as long as u have even a low-end cheapie pc IMO lack of modding support on bedrock is it's biggest downfall, bedrock would probably be better than java if it had true modding support like java does, a lack of true modding support is a lack of major content, java has so much more content than bedrock if u consider modding and has so many different, varied, tailored experiences for individuals, just facts.

[@ssleuther]

You're 100% correct. There's even mods to turn Java into the 4J legacy edition. Mojang broke and intentionally refuses to fix large aspects of bedrock mod support.

[@vendetta.02]

@@ssleuther IMO, mod support for sandbox games like minecraft is a fully necessary feature, you cannot have a good sandbox game without mod support bc theres only so much you can do in a sandbox without modding, modding takes sandbox games up to 11 in terms of fun and longevity of fun, bedrock is just boring bc no modding on it

[@Supergogo7251]

I agree, but whenever bedrock gets modding abilities, (amethyst api, holiday creator features, additional modding capabilities, etc,) they remove it!

[@TheKodeToad]

One of Java Edition's biggest curses (less efficient programming language) is also quite a blessing for the community since modifying programs made with C++ is much harder. I think there being multiple editions is a very good thing for the community - there is a extremely modifiable version (which you can also play on macos and linux* :P) and a version which you can play on your smart toaster I don't think a version of the game made in Java could be on as many devices (though java is very common on android) and I think if they wanted to make a C++ version as versatile the code would need to be released. * Bedrock is on ChromeOS and Android which are technically linux based

[@vendetta.02]

@@TheKodeToad a java edition could exist on as many devices as a JVM engine was made on. making a JVM for any device wouldnt be difficult for device software makers

[@redblack9925]

My experience with Bedrock every time: -Open game -Get bombarded with unable to login error messages -Actually attempts to login -Up to one minute later it either fails or succeeds -If it fails, your name and skin are unavailable -If it succeeds, you get bombarded with ads and your name and skin will most likely still not load -Big as ad on the title screen -Might still have to manually login to Microsoft to access stuff -Play game -World gets too big and game server starts lagging with actions becoming delayed or undone (5900X/RTX 4080) Unacceptable and don't understand how you could play Bedrock as main.

[@Grunker1]

I literally don't understand why this happens to people, when I play bedrock it runs perfectly fine

[@angel23444]

​@@Grunker1same, the only exception is input delay, but it wasn't a thing before they switched from directx11 to directx12, and there's really easy workaround for that, but other problems in the comment is a bad internet connection, these wont happen if you have good internet or don't have it at all thus playing in offline mode, but java also launches slower with bad internet connection tho

[@Idkwhatever113]

Last I checked, bedrock doesn't have ads

[@snakesnail6664]

@@Grunker1 Same. Been playing it for 8 years and only had one world corrupt, no issue with logging in, no random deaths. I guess bedrock gives its buggiest games to its biggest bedrock haters.

[@gomeraleaa1957]

@@snakesnail6664 well deserved lmao

[@GreenHatGuy]

Microsoft and Mojang know that most people on bedrock are people without a community voice for bad game design, and they exploit it by neglecting the version and using abusive markiting schemes. If they tried the same on java, (see copper bulb reactions), they get serious backlash and anger from people who have a strong youtube and social media control.

[@zuzoscorner]

i'll save you 30 mins, it Java. boom done

[@Jelenir]

thanks

[@mrteapot03]

aCtUaLLy iT'S 28 MiNuTeS aNd 26 SeCoNdS

[@eclipse4446]

Could’ve said that by looking at the thumbnail

[@Non_Consistent_Potato]

@@mrteapot03he saved you more time by not being so specific

[@naliskun4222]

​@@mrteapot03 how dare you 😤 not very demure of you

[@lenunDun2un]

One distinction that must be made is that although bedrock has a larger playerbase, java has a bigger COMMUNITY, because, like it or not bedrock is played by a much larger portion of kids who won’t significantly impact or communicate with other bedrock players, and java is much easier to make content about or communicate about online for previously stated reasons

[@Planetmango48]

Yeah.

[@Gotlyfe]

Almost like one is a local game and the other is a marketing tool to get kids to buy branded toys...

[@shadoww914]

Got a source on that? Or is this just "tRuST mE BrO"

[@lars-eriklarsson7826]

Exactly ​@@Gotlyfe

[@lars-eriklarsson7826]

@@shadoww914 Tvere's a reason most MC youtubers are playing Java, despite there being more people playing on Bedrock 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@delofj]

There is a clear distinction when talking about Mojang vs Microsoft Of course Mojang would prefer Java over Bedrock, it's their whole legacy, especially when talking about the Stockholm's team However, if you take Mojang Studios from Redmon, the answer could potentially vary And if you take Microsoft itself directly, we all know what's the answer

[@Flunium]

@@delofj the problem is that Java sucks and it’s garbage but bedrock is literally the holy grail of video games. :D

[@Key-Knight87]

@@Flunium Nice bait 👌

[@Flunium]

thanks :D

[@nathanadkins7808]

@@Fluniumyet… it’s not. it’s objectively worse in many ways. with completely missing features, or awful bugs. Cross-platform is possible with java now too, thanks to plugins made by the community, so don’t even try to use that as an argument for bedrock. Y’all mfs are playing on a modernized pocket edition, do NOT come @ us java players like you got sum sorta ground to stand on. Install shaders then hmu😂😭👍🏽

[@Flunium]

you just fell for the rage bait…

[@RaiderAvian]

I have another point to raise. Note that I may be naive and new to the modding scene of Minecraft (bedrock). When I started, I managed to make a nice addon or two for my friends. And this was from years of enjoying addons made by many people in the game. But as the 1.21.80 update dropped. So did the majority of the functions of one big addon I made because it relied on Holiday Creator Freatures. Even though using experimental features were a risk. It was one of the only ways to get the addon to work. Since then, I now have to learn Javascript just to replicate the features from HCF. Many other mods that also relied on these experimental features faced similar devastating outcomes. Despite having warnings in selected announcements set up months before this change happened. For those who were unable or unwilling to learn how to make scripts. The deadline became a countdown to when their addons would die. And the only way to get them back is either remake the addon, or assume a rare few players are willing to play on older versions (which is very uncommon on the bedrock side). All of that, while the Marketplace conveniently started selling addons. A business decision Mojang made but still discourage users (mod makers) from doing themselves. As much as I love the game. I hate having to learn a whole coding language just to add a few triggers or functions. I hate having ideas to do something in the game, but run into limitations in the weirdest ways (you can make a pig blue, make a cow sing, or even make wacky blocks that do a few fancy tricks. But heaven forbid you want to replicate vanilla stairs, or a mob that does something that poses a challenge in the limitations of the code you are able to do in Minecraft).

[@lpfan4491]

Unofficially versionchanging is a thing(On mobile and PC), so those add-ons can still work by reverting

[@HackerDragon9999]

Moyang prefers Lagva, Microsoft prefers Bugrock.

[@BH_Animations]

its a loss loss either you wanna play java but your computer explodes or you wanna play bedrock but your world corrupts

[@HackerDragon9999]

@@BH_Animations What if you play Java with Optifine at a render distance of 6 chunks?

[@Gabriel-pv5Mc]

@@HackerDragon9999 I would rather die (metaphorically) than play Minecraft at 6 chink render distance

[@Anmvc]

​@@HackerDragon9999god no to optifine, use sodium and you can get that 6 chunks to 10 chunks

[@martymoist]

Optifine is so outdated, sodium and distant horizons let's u have higher render distance than bedrock​@@HackerDragon9999

[@CC61351]

The only reason why bedrock makes mojang more money is because not everyone has access to a pc and bedrock is widely available across different platforms. If everyone had a pc, bedrock wouldn’t even be a concept.

[@kcoolthegamer]

Yeah well, if only the average computer that can run Java edition didn’t cost more then a ps5 or the average cellular device lol

[@Lolwutfordawin]

Java edition runs on my 15 year old smelly thinkpad. It also works on my old phone with a custom launcher. ​@@kcoolthegamer

[@DreKicksit]

I have a pc I still play bedrock

[@nathanadkins7808]

@@kcoolthegamerif you want it to run java, you could spend $150 on a used office PC and get 30-60fps, then put another $200 on a GPU and you have a better device than a console for Java MC, probably running vanilla at 60-120fps. If you install sodium, optifine, a client, or any other fps boosting software, you can get more than on bedrock. There are mods that can allow you to render over 32 chunks as well. Idk why you think it takes a NASA computer to run MC, it’s a 15 year old game.

[@_xX_me_Xx_]

@@nathanadkins7808 The sad thing is that it performs horribly for a 15 year old game. Half Life 2, a triple A title from ~20 years ago can get over 100 fps on my crappy laptop, while either versions of minecraft struggle to reach 60 at 16 chunks render distance.

[@promaster424]

Bedrock edition is essentially the Minecraft made by Microsoft. It has better performance and monetization, and that's what people don't like. Nowadays people prefer indie games with passionate developers that are ready to do what the community wants. If Minecraft was released today by Microsoft it sure wouldn't have been so popular because of how they handle games, the fact that the game is split in two versions which benefit both sides in certain ways makes Minecraft a perfect product.

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

"[Bedrock] has better performance" Lol, lmao even 😂

[@promaster424]

@@EmperorPenguin1217 And have you tested the performance of both versions on your computer? You might not believe it but the 3DS port of Minecraft runs on the same engine, and that thing has 256MB of ram

[@K.Bbluesword]

I never will play bedrock on my switch ever

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

@@promaster424 My computer no, but I've had bedrock on multiple devices and it's bad on all of them. In fact I booted it up on my switch a few months ago to get that cape and it became even worse. Legacy edition ran almost flawlessly on the switch so hardware isn't an excuse.

[@snakesnail6664]

@@EmperorPenguin1217 Bedrock has to be better optimised for poorer devices because it runs on other devices. In vanilla for both games, I can run bedrock at 50-60 chunks and be fine. Java is a max of 31 and it has constant lag spikes at that render distance. I've gotten used to java, but when I first played it I had to have it at 12 because the lag spikes bothered me that much. bedrock happily uses as many resources as it wants, and java refuses to use too many. I'm sure if java was allowed more resources it could run better, but it doesn't. Not sure about other devices, since I've been playing windows 10 edition for 8 years, and barely deviated.

[@Bluzers]

1:53 You'd be surprised, I thought the same thing but then I ran into a bunch of assholes who claimed it was stupid for maps to show player rotation without giving any arguments. That's actually my average experience with java players...

[@tristanshaltz2769]

We would have a much better system if it weren't for stubbornness, both on our part and Mojang's. I also have no idea what they were snorting when designing Bedrock's redstone, like how was update order not a priority??

[@honeybeerose4108]

On the technical side of the game (commands and whatnot) mojang's favoritism toward java is VERY noticeable, there's tons of bs you can do on java that you just can't on bedrock, for example, the scoreboard command is missing like 5 types of scoreboards like health, deaths, and even air (like how long you have before you drown), and I'm not too familiar with the game's code, but I know that information is stored in the game, otherwise certain systems just won't work, same with another feature that's just missing, and thats json components, again I know that data is already in the game, because the game wouldn't work otherwise, they just aren't giving us access to it for no other reason than they don't want to.

[@sizanogreen9900]

Java player here and yeah, I'd definitly prefer to see maps with the direction I'm facing being immediatly obvious when outside of it. I may just be stupid and have not engaged with the topic enough but I have yet to successfully use any locator map successfully aside from the treasure maps where I coincidentally uncovered some area on opening.

[@maxwellli7057]

On Java it is less of an issue than bedrock because we can just pull up the F3 menu and use the north/south/east/west values

[@sizanogreen9900]

@@maxwellli7057 You may think so, and you'd be right, but I am terrible at navigating by coordinates.

[@Flunium]

@@sizanogreen9900 Java sucks 😁😁😁😁😁

[@sizanogreen9900]

@@Flunium Bedrock too in its own way. But you stay with the devil you know, no?

[@maxwellli7057]

@@Flunium what compels you to say this

[@dougsvoboda6091]

It's Java and anyone that says otherwise is just wrong. Java has a bug? Better fix it right away. Bedrock? Maybe in 10 years it'll maybe be fixed. Java has unintended gameplay? It's a feature! Bedrock? Nope, you can't have that. Java just gets new features that Bedrock doesn't (like the new ender pearl changes) Most parity changes make bedrock objectively a worse game. (No more horse boats.) Java got the Pale Garden a whole week before Bedrock. Those are just the ones I can think of right now.

[@Flunium]

java sucks tho

[@pizzaisthelife]

Exactly I would like someone on X and KZbin to write this to them for every single post until they understand the mistake they are making

[@NearQuasar]

@@Fluniumwhy?

[@jespee]

facts right here

[@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944]

​@@FluniumNope.

[@tigg1000]

Bedrock edition takes longer to develop due to how many versions its split across, putting updates out to consoles takes a long time. At the end of the day bedrock was made purely as a cashgrab with a marketplace. Of course Mojang developers would love the version thats purely minecraft

[@Masaru_kun]

I'm pretty sure Microsoft like bedrock more because the standards are lower, the playerbase is younger and easier to scam. Java players require more effort to appease, and Microsoft can't even appease them, they still need Mojang for that

[@Demopans5990]

Also, Java players are perfectly happy to make their own content. See mods like Aether, Twilight Forest, Blue Skies, Atum, Create

[@randomperson8375]

I'm glad they finally added an actual pause feature into Bedrock, but I'm confused why they''d make it a toggle. Why would anyone ever toggle it off???

[@SupersuMC]

Crazy folk.

[@lollovec]

It is set to On, by default.

[@herrkatzegaming]

You can also disable pausing with the menu in Java Edition, however its a more roundabout way and is one-way per world session. You have to press Open to LAN which opens up the internal server to your local network, but also disables pausing since it can't really pause when in multiplayer. This has to be done every time you load up the world, by default your internal server is closed to only your client and has to be opened manually every world session

[@archivushka]

Bedrock parity be like: > Remove cool savanna biome > Not add nether ceiling > Add some new feature differently (hanging signs iirc) Also can you shine more light on bedrock version locking and possibly marketplace dev clients.

[@LikaLaruku]

I'm in a Savanah biome on Bedrock right now.

[@NearQuasar]

I would throw away every cool and unique feature that bedrock has if only bedrock got java redstone in exchange. Bedrock redstone is that ass

[@binsarm9026]

@@NearQuasar naah, "sticky pistons that drop their blocks" is NOT a feature ! and TNT duping with coral blocks - it's NONSENSE to say that's "intended behaviour"

[@NearQuasar]

@ But apparently, on Java edition they are.

[@thenono48rayan]

Also bedrock: fix a bugs... Then a new one come in

[@Supercoolusername-f4s]

One of the reasons why I play bugrock is because I have the old combat system of rapid clicking with new features. And yes I do love rapidly clicking things into oblivion

[@DuskusCB]

Unpopular opinion: I prefer Bedrock simply for the crafting UI being a scroll rather than pages. And that it doesn’t automatically cycle through wood varieties every 2 seconds and keeps them separate instead.

[@filled9971]

Legacy has the best ui

[@GagnesterLOL]

Fair Enough

[@Cosmic-emptyvoid]

Bedrock is based on pocket edition's UI 😑

[@d4r4butler74]

A friend who has played both says Java's Inventory is backwards as in it fills from the bottom right to the top left instead of the ever so much more sensible top left to bottom right. IDK because I refuse to play a game that just to have a "vanilla" experience you absolutely need to put in mods to run the game.

[@GagnesterLOL]

@@d4r4butler74 You don't need mods to play a vanilla experience, it's just the old community that doesn't enjoy playing normal vanilla anymore. Optifine, is an optimisation mod and is easy to install. With it you can play with Shaders and have Dynamic light. It's a little plus fo the game, but if your PC is not 10 years old, you will not need it in the last version of the game

[@ssleuther]

I'd like to remid everyone that custom terrain generation has been broken for 4 years. The reason Bedrock doesn't have a large modding community is because Mojang has made most things impossible to mod in. They are a multimillion dollar studio, it's unacceptable.

[@SaaifXD]

And most of players in bedrock edition are kids. Even featured servers are worse I played lifeboat survival it's limited by 1000x1000 blocks and you can't craft most items it's absurd

[@Felipe-rn1gf]

@@SaaifXD there is survival java servers on bedrock

[@SupersuMC]

@@Felipe-rn1gf Yeah, with a plugin that doesn't completely work as advertised. And I don't like plugins.

[@tylerchiu7065]

@@SupersuMCWhy not

[@Cass0wary_399]

“They are a multimillion dollar studio.” That’s why they make it harder to mod Bedrock lol.

[@progamermaster2685]

Before, I was worried that Java would cease to exist because of bedrock. But now I see that believing such a thing is like believing that a small headache is being cause by a dangerous cancerous tumour.

[@maxwellli7057]

Java is the main version of the online MC community. Replacing Java would probably kill the game

[@Flunium]

@@progamermaster2685 Java sucks 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😅😅😅😅😅😅🥲🥲😂😅😀😄😄

[@dasha-minecraft]

I enjoyed this video essay/rant quite a lot. It was very informative, and decently impartial. It still baffles me that some Java players think Mojang prefers Bedrock, hope that clears it out. I'm a Java player, I love my version of the game with all my heart. Sometimes I play Bedrock with my friends. At the end of the day, Minecraft is Minecraft💛

[@awareburrito8975]

I swear if they take away my big salmon I'm quitting lol

[@tristanshaltz2769]

Well worry not, it already got added to Java, your (now our) big salmon are safe.

[@toycat]

@@tristanshaltz2769 the big salmon isn't as bony on java, I wonder if they'll ever add it

[@thsxi]

Bedrock is a literal failed experiment that killed console edition, a good experiment prematurely killed off

[@trulybarr5341]

Ngl bedrock is now better than console edition

[@tristanshaltz2769]

@@trulybarr5341 Ehh, just content wise sure, but it would be much better if 4J was still developing it

[@legolloyd2009]

@@tristanshaltz2769 I think bringing back console edition like most people want would actually bring more harm than good. Cross-play, chat, commands and infinite worlds would be non-existent and It would cause immense confusion to the casual market. Instead, the best direction in my opinion would be for 4J studios to develop Bedrock Edition. It would allow the studio to port all the old features while keeping all of the benefits that bedrock has. The parity between Bedrock and Java would also likely increase, because LCE and Java were super similar.

[@fusionsub]

​@@legolloyd2009 as a person that played LCE (both back when it was supported and recently) this mentallity is the same mentallity I hold. LCE felt better and was a better console experience, but bedrock has a lot of features that would likely not exist in LCE (even if development kept chugging along like before the migration) and also bedrock feels noticably smoother for me. TLDR: Reverting bedrock to LCE would be a lose-lose situation

[@lpfan4491]

@@fusionsub It didn't really "chug along". By the time it was discontinued, Console Edition essencially caught up and had enough time to develop its own content like the minigames.

[@modeushelltaker4076]

Yup The OreUi For Bedrock is Just Java’s Ui Layout But White Color & New look of Worlds Seeds, Not Extra Settings in the Settings! 👀💜 Will Turned Bedrock Ui As a Better Version of Java Edition When 1.21.60 Comes.

[@SirNether5000]

Im sorry, but yeah im SO glad to be a Java main player. I rarely have problems with it, and even when i mostly played bedrock, i was envious and did (and still do) think that bedrock is the inferior edition (regardless of how much i like its few good features)

[@Idkwhatever113]

Good for you

[@jayohplays]

so we not gonna talk about how bro was talking into a guitar hero guitar?

[@lololordjr]

The best microphone

[@KarbonYaddy]

legitimately same day this was posted I went back to play on 1.5.2 on Java because it was my first version and I wanted a nostalgia blast

[@sizanogreen9900]

This video pretty much captures why I am still holding on to Java even tho Bedrock has better performance and cauldron mechanics.

[@angel23444]

it's much more than just "better performance" and "cauldron mechanics" tho

[@ultronisgaming2024]

ngl. now I'm convinced that most java players know little to less information about bedrock. like the guy above me said, it can be more than that.

[@sizanogreen9900]

@@ultronisgaming2024 I know, I am watching this channel for many years now. These two aspects are simply what I myself find the most attractive about it.

[@darkdest6664]

So now that you got a guitar hero guitar... beating Minecraft using Guitar Hero controler Video when? 😅😂😂

[@SMW32]

Minecraft bedrock and java is like mk8 and mkwii

[@generaledelogu1892]

Unfortunately it was the one I was expecting. Unfair Java preference for worse features moving to Bedrock in the name of "parity" actively makes our gaming experience worse on Bedrock; I'm afraid they'll take away our cool water colors just like they did the shattered savanna green grass

[@GagnesterLOL]

it was not a feature, but a bug! Bedrock is a more recent edition than Java and has to support every plateform. It's just logics that feature take more time to implement without bugs in bedrock than Java. They will not remove water colors because this is a feature. Feature that Java will never have because Microsoft want to kill java

[@Cosmic-emptyvoid]

​@@GagnesterLOLfacts

[@mooing_cowmilk]

for one of the capes MCC is on java edition along with the public mcc island server, so it felt weird that only the edition of the game that MCC doesn't take place on are the only ones who got the cape (hence both).

[@rdlinatl]

I personally don't like the new pause function because I can't alt + tab out and have my farms run while I watch youtube or w/e else. Also I look at java as more of "marketing" since most big players on twitch and youtube use it. I have both but I strictly run Bedrock and always have just due to the fact that it runs smoother and even on a decent laptop I can see 96 chunks away compared to javas 32? I dont even get slightly laggy in my main world unless I have it around 60+. Java has a few pluses like tnt dupers and the nether roof for sure but we have trident killers and placing blocks in front of you. The main thing in certainly the performance for me and bedrock is far ahead in that and seems it always will be. Edit: Im jealous of javas easy 0 tick farms as well, we've had them but they always get patched

[@angel23444]

you can disable pause in "general" settings section

[@snakesnail6664]

The 96 render distance on bedrock was originally why I didn't want to switch. I have always felt that if a game needs to be modded to be good, then its not by itself a good game. Java and bedrock are both good, but to make java considerably better than bedrock you need to mod it. Also bedrock runs better with other apps open in the background compared to java, which I've noticed when I've had both versions open. Bedrocks fine, and java lags out. Theres also a ton of server lag in java just in a singleplayer world, which I come across at least once per half hour of gameplay.

[@rdlinatl]

@@angel23444 Thank you!!!

[@rdlinatl]

@@snakesnail6664 Yeah I play entirely solo so obviously i choose bedrock. Java has it pluses but not enough in my opinion to exonerate using it over bedrocks far superior.. gameplay lol. To me if the gameplay is basically the same than running better on everything is a no brainer, and it's not like it's just a little better. I run a 3050ti laptop with a 12650h and 32 gb ram. I open my half gig world in bedrock no problem, I open java and its 30 fps brand new world. I gotta give bedrock the W

[@porkeyminch8044]

0 tick farms were patched years ago. Also couldn't you just open your inventory or chat to tab out without pausing?

[@lool8421]

actually from a more technical standpoint, they're implementing many bugfixes and datapack changes recently, not necessarily as many new features in the last few major releases, there were many new changes to modding even though 1.19-1.21 feels like a content drought

[@SleepyWaffleHead]

Id be ok with the marketplace if it's you do something in Minecraft and that's gets you minecoins from in game tasks or something

[@d4r4butler74]

There is Microsoft Rewards... you can get Minecoins from that. I know several people who get things like Free Controllers and Games from their Rewards.

[@superNova5837]

I think China edition does this They have a free mod loader backed in

[@vanghard]

Devs at Mojang prefer Java for a very simple reasons IMHO: Even if they can't make microtransactions : the Java versions is coded in Java (obviously), add features, removes features, debug: fast, easy, even if it's true, less optimized. If you want to try thing, modify it, and just try thing for your game design: Java is a good languages Bedrock is in C++: Believe me, it's a totally other jam... C++ is complexe, close to C, need more times to bugfixes.... So in my theory, most devs try thing on the java versions first, because... (an this is not the real numbers, it's just to give an approximation of the situation) if you just want to try a features to see if it's of any interest : You don't use the one that need 200hours and 3 high qualified engineers to implement your idea, you use the one that is mores simple to modify, only need 20hours and 1 devs

[@Cosmic-emptyvoid]

Yes, bedrock without a lag and java without a bug

[@MicahIsBatman2]

10:39 you can see due to the animations of the hands and the items alongside the lighting in the scene that that is very clearly bedrock edition.

[@XQZ2009]

snapshots are favored mainly over previews because in snapshots, the devs can do whatever they want with the code, without many optimizations or fixes to the implementation required

[@Enitii]

I know which version MoJ hates. They heat pocket edition Because it's no longer receiving updates, it had to be turned to bedrock.

[@devil8975]

Pocket edition officially died years ago.

[@Enitii]

@devil8975 I know, but I still somewhat active playing it. If you're wondering how old devices that can no longer receive any sort of Android updates, because they're way too old.

[@Cosmic-emptyvoid]

​​@@devil8975 yes I know microsoft bought minecraft, bedrock is based on pocket edition and legacy console 8 year ago

[@outrowed]

@@Enitii It's okay to play Pocket Edition, a lot people too played Minecraft Classic/Beta, because how they liked the aesthetic and the simplicity back then.

[@Supercoolusername-f4s]

They hate raspberry pi edition the most

[@SightDashGD]

9:00 didn't know hardcore mode now uses the normal hearts!

[@Albus-of9cs]

hardcore mode does not use normal hearts it was survival the entire time they were playing Java with the bedrock UI over it

[@SightDashGD]

@@Albus-of9cs 1. you didn't even check the timestamp 2. i was being sarcastic

[@Drunkgg775]

I play pocket, I haven't seen any bugs.

[@SaaifXD]

​@@Drunkgg775I play pocket edition bugs are everywhere it's absurd and the most annoying bug I m facing nowadays is visual glitch rain

[@Drunkgg775]

@@SaaifXD oh, yeah I don't see bugs 🤔🤷‍♂️ Edit: my xiaomi is an android

[@gabrielandy9272]

well using the nether roof is a bug and i don't want it to go in the game lmao.

[@humbleskye]

Real I want to build within the nether not outside of it

[@nanopi]

16:06 All these extra copies of bedrock within bedrock adds thousands of files to my computer making updates slower and slower. SSD users benefit from this version compatibility with little cost while HDD users suffer then extra time cost to get the same thing. Many games have multiple small files packed into one giant file, cuts down on file access time.

[@Remigrator]

Imagine pausing the game without it being paused, to buy a funny creeper skin off the marketplace, while in the background you are being blown up by a creeper ... ... In a hardcore world that you have been building and grinding up for the past two years 🤣🤣🤣

[@skraddarn69]

I think the worst part of Bedrock is that it replaced the legacy console editions when those actually worked properly. I also think it's a bit weird how they can't make a proper pause function in single player on Bedrock. I assume they knew that the game wasn't meant to be purely multiplayer when they developed Bedrock.

[@uoi-whitepeach-bameningong7903]

its in the new beta its comming in early 2025

[@viralit8685]

​@@uoi-whitepeach-bameningong7903 😂😂 in 2025 so late after so many years Only reason i like bedrock is yhat i can just invite anybody and play that's it

[@uoi-whitepeach-bameningong7903]

@viralit8685 Bro it's almost not even a month away

[@Hadeks_Marow]

This isn't due to favoritism. This is due to "patching/compatability logistics" It's easier/faster to develop for PC than it is to develope for every xbox hardware variant known to man across multiple generations. Especially considering that console updates need approval meanwhile pc updates only need to be updated on their own dedicated launcher, i.e. no approval process. They do it because the platform allows for them to. It has nothing to do with priorities nor preference. It just happens to be the platform with less hurdles/roadblocks.

[@filled9971]

Not rlly

[@EnderiumSmith]

The bundle being functional but artificially disabled proves they care more about bedrock. Its just that all the content creators are on java so they are more likely to listed to them. The pitch not matching is actually simple, the code that calls it has a pitch and volume variable and its very unlikely theyd have both version open on an IDE. Java being better is in spite of microsoft, not because of them.

[@maximilianlipp7246]

Funny Thing: he shows here that Iron Golems can actually be useful for the creaking. If you look you can see that they are keeping the creaking busy while the player can do what he wants, like seeking its heart.

[@paveldobcz23]

I believe the biggest difference is the location of the office, most Bedrock development is done in Redmond while most Java development is done in Stockholm, where Mojang originates obviously.

[@user-skeuomorphism]

13:13 On the Nintendo Switch there is an update file and a game file, so to downgrade to 1.2.12, just delete the file, any other that isn't the latest, find it on the internet.

[@idan.]

5:30 "was changes" correct in future my friend, I want to see your channel grow cat friend

[@Supercoolusername-f4s]

I like bedrock more only because it is easier to play with my friends, let's be honest who plays Minecraft single player, when Terraria single player is right next door

[@Shady_Inktail]

I've played both and really never saw why someone would pick Bedrock over Java if given complete choice. I've tried Bedrock and Java on controllers and imo it's a horrible way to control your character when KBM gives you much finer control. Yes, multiplayer, cross-platform, technically runs better, blah blah, I'm sticking to Java. It's where I started on 1.5.2 on a cracked clients because I was a middle schooler with no money. (Combat update was good, btw)

[@CarolinaCycloneJames]

The hardcore is a serious issue. And the lag needs to he fixed. Ive noticed recently that my long term world would take up to 7+ seconds to register a block broken or chest opened etc. I thought maybe it was just because its over 700mbs so its causing issues. I created a new word and it still does this. I thought maybe it was my xbox. Which could make sense but not really since its the one X which is only barely less powerful than the Series S and X. So i got on a gaming computer with a Ryzen 7 and 3060Ti with 32GB of ram. Plenty to be able to handle bedrock and it still did this. I dont know when this started but its annoying because there have been times where i almost die due to these issues. I understand lag and sometimes itll glitch. But for it to glitch every 5 seconds or less and for it to lag even opening my inventory shouldn't be happening. That and the fact that randomly chunks that im currently standing in just turn invisible then reappear

[@RaiderAvian]

9:05 hardcore? Their hearts were normal though? And I was expecting you to rant about how pillaring can sometimes end up with you getting punted to the side and fall of the tower because the game got confused with your being ontop or inside a 1*1 block tower you are actively placing.

[@nintendoswitchbrit4201]

even when Minecraft Java released Mod devs referred to it as spaghetti code

[@nintendoswitchbrit4201]

it was purposely done by Notch to try and counter pirating

[@Americanbadashh]

The spaghetti code in Java was cleaned up years ago

[@SmitePlayz1]

@@Americanbadashh ?? what are you talking about? its still the same mess.

[@nikiehrhart]

I'm a Java player and I've tried Bedrock again and again and I just don't like it... too much lag and other things. (LOVE THAT WACKY WORLD GEN THO) I love that Toycat plays bedrock because I get to learn about Minecraft as a whole. But yes, Mojang loves Java but Microsoft sure LOVES$$$$$ Bedrock.

[@mangomangrove2]

Yes, but when java does lag, the lag feels different (My gaming experience with Java is with the Sodium mod) and on bedrock, it has delay. Input delay.

[@rubiusstudios5709]

Random toycat childhood trauma lore drop and I'm here for it, we need an hour long documentary where he just dumps his life history on us with no direction whatsoever

[@ZetaOmniverse]

I feel like bedrock and Java would get equally as much treatment with each other if Mojang never got bought by Microsoft instead Microsoft and Mojang just became partner companies with each other And before anyone says this being a partner to another company is different from being bought by another company being a partner to it is that you let them use their assets but you still have free range and control over them while being bought by a company day can basically tell you whatever the freak they want you to do

[@OfficialCartoonStudios]

11:06 , if you look at the hotbar, you can see that they are on an empty space, and yet are still holding a iron pickaxe

[@Supercoolusername-f4s]

At least bedrock players are tougher than Java players I guess

[@ds_the_rn]

I have an amazing gaming computer that I’m now too lazy to use, so I play Minecraft on Switch! The only downside I find is the inability to use some rad shaders, but the Marketplace has enough selection that I am satisfied with how my game looks. I can also lie in bed and play, so that’s a big bonus at my age. 😊

[@ToadToon]

Legacy Edition: Hey, what about me? Mojang and Microsoft: yeah...

[@justn1n]

I think you confused Java and Bedrock. Java had Spaghetti Code, the backend code has been and is being rewritten often. Items and inventories was completely rewritten for data driven-ness. 1.13 re-wrote most of the game. Bedrock still uses MCPE as a back bone, which most def has a ton more spaghetti.

[@andrewmorris483]

If Minecraft were started today, it would be Bedrock. A large amount of the player-base would also be playing alternatives, such as Luanti.

[@Idkwhatever113]

Although, the latter would likely be more so due to the fact that it wouldn't have been building a community for 15 years, rather than the fact that it's bedrock

[@KaiPereira-rb1xw]

microsoft just trows any feature that they want to test on bedrock, including the bad ones that would completely break the game or make Java players rageous, like a marketplace and emotes into bedrock, just so they can make more money, even if that affects a good part of the player base.

[@salvatoremutuale9751]

I cannot understand why would they port the java map indicator to bedrock instead of fixing it. Who the hell decided it was fine to keep?! ITS NOT, GODDAMMIT!!

[@binsarm9026]

what most pissed me off was removing the ability to put horses in boats. they "encourage players to explore" and then hobble the method of transport.

[@graham-hood]

Nah, this is based on a false premise. You are looking at number of bugs fixed as a measure of work, without taking into account the complexity of coding those fixed. Java is a single platform system, so the bugs that get fixed just have to be fixed for PC. For Bedrock, it's cross platform so any changes made have to be stable on PC/PS/XBox/Switch/Phones, and that's before you get into how messy the code might be underneath it. It could be that the code for Bedrock is harder to change to begin with so just because one has 3 times as many bugs fixed, doesn't mean it is preferred, just easier to change.

[@filled9971]

Bro has no idea on what he’s talking about

[@Americanbadashh]

PC isn't single platform. It's a near infinite number of possible platform configurations across multiple different operating systems.

[@gabrielandy9272]

@@Americanbadashh its still one platform you don't make code for every gpu and cpu in the world, the compiler does the job

[@graham-hood]

@@Americanbadashh ​ @Americanbadashh Nor are android phones, but you know what is meant. The fundamental purpose of a PC on a window operating is to be compatible with stuff running that operating system regardless of specific hardware. Sure, you get the odd issues but most hardware providers also provide drivers for said hardware to run. Yes, there are issues where certain devices just can't do something. (See the Bedrock dead end in RTX graphics - but again, that was bedrock.) If your only response to something is to be obtuse, it isn't a strong response.

[@AidanHackett-ff7uy]

I’m terrible at red stone . And java red stone is so different. So I have to figure our how to do it . Which is hard when you don’t even know how half the stuff works . Or find a video form like 6 years ago that don’t work anymore.

[@binsarm9026]

Bedrock redstone is simpler and straightforward - Java redstone is "feature"-filled. Sticky pistons dropping their blocks is NOT "logical"

[@Damglador]

The fact that the cross platform Minecraft isn't even available on Linux or macOS is hilarious

[@CCShakeCat]

2:27 Bedrock recently got the cheat-ment--I mean treatment for the pausing and damage cancellation

[@yuji_ltadori]

That's why bedrock is better than java, Microsoft likes bedrock and bedrock would never lag it makes they play bedrock. Free addon in mcpedl, i *hate* that java player say *deleted bedrock edition* in comments

[@mangomangrove2]

mcpedl is infested with nothing but ads. I play java on my 40 dollar laptop i got from ebay. Installed the sodium mod and i get 60 fps. If you don’t know how to install sodium, thats your own skill issue. Bugrock has this horrible input delay that makes it feel way worse than java at 40 fps. Java feels stable and well built with a good foundation. Bugrock feels like a building that’s being held up by 2 support beams.

[@beanmchocolate3900]

2:25 🤣 I've never heard this sound before.

[@bluegoose7832]

I think it's just as simple as "Java is easier to work with" compared to the Bedrock engine, especially if Mojang don't hire permenant staff like a lot of developers do nowadays, which I dont care enough to research if that's the case or not 🤷‍♂

[@limecrimes]

Love the guitar hero mic lmao

[@acrios90]

Honestly as a Java player, the reasons I dont play Bedrock is because it has an objectively worse modding, and the store just feels gross. As an older player it feels icky that they added a marketplace to a game like minecraft. I can recognize that bedrock it in general the better version of minecraft but minecraft has survived and thrived as long as it did off the backs of the modding community. Nowadays even vanilla content on youtube tends to use backend mods like Simple Voice Chat and Custom Sounds.

[@sed6]

Man your content is over the top! Like drinking from a fire hose. Your videos are not only great to watch they're also great to listen to when I'm doing something else. I started playing Pocket edition on my phone in my '30s and I am now over 50, never tried Java, don't know what I'm "missing" & don't care. I used to mod consoles and computers back in the day, just not my thing anymore, glad that Java is there to support that crowd 👍

[@TheNikola2018]

java one for the nether roof is a bug that people begged to be kept in the game that is why it can't be added to bedrock and the things in offhand ig is harder to code in the language that bedrock is codded in

[@MRClock12]

When you are a game developer and you make different versions you have to be fair but I don't think they give much importance to the Bedrock version but they care more about the Java version which not many can play Because it needs powerful devices unlike Bedrock which works on all devices, and also they give new updates first to the Java version and Bedrock players must wait And let's not forget the April Fools updates that are only for Java.I mean, what would happen if you gave this update to Bedrock as well,In my opinion, when you are a game developer, you should be fair and not use a version to bring in money and prefer another version because it is easy to code.

[@footlonghawk3960]

This was a great video man and I remember watching the stream where that crazy situation happened with the shield 😆

[@benjamindebo9283]

Hot take: there is no parity issues if there is no Java edition.

[@YoSs-n5u]

A good argument is Java version is written in java(java is used to create games) bedrock is in c++ which is incredibly difficult and not used to make games

[@natemiller6389]

Java has far more potential it is not limited by a phones hardware that's why Microsoft likes it. Limited ability - limited game design. Microsoft loves milking jobs.

[@mo2cubing]

2:25 in Bedrock Previews you can finally pause the game in Bedrock, thought I'd point that out since they did add it but it's just not fully rolled out for everyone yet! EDIT: Lol if I had even watched the video for another 5 seconds...

[@VeeFerns]

15:23 but java can run on phones, ever heard of pojav? in fact the only devices that bedrock can run on but there is absolutely no way to ever run java edition on that device, without like it actually running somewhere else and streaming it, are ps5, xbox, and ios. every other device bedrock is on has some way to play java edition, even if that way is just installing linux on the thing.

[@arie1906]

You are cross-compiling the game, of course it can run. Java has a virtual machine, they were designed to be "one code run all". All you need was make JVM run on the device and you can run java program, but the problems are you need to handle the dependent on your own, which is not the jobs for mojang themselves should do. How many dependents does Minecraft have? I don't know but it must be a pain to keep them maintained on your own. You would be lucky if the dependent itself don't relie on hardware but if that wasn't the case, good luck wasting hours to cross-compile it.

[@arie1906]

There are lot of reasons of the lack of features, such things as hardware limitation, corporatism, incompetence or a waste of time and none of their jobs. Mojang itself is a member of a corporation, the jobs are not done by one person if not even one team. People must realize that Mojang is no differ from Microsoft and the devs have nothing to do with it.

[@netkv]

@@arie1906 you are not cross compiling anything, you said it yourself, jvm, java bytecode doesnt care on what it's ran, so as long as platform has java(and neccesary libraries and hardware), it will run pojav is runs java exactly same way linux pc would run it, just with touch overlay just think of it, minecraft java runs even on platforms noone would even want it probably, bsd and solaris/illumos cross compiling is when you take source code and compile it for platform x on platform y with java you compile for platform java, which platform x and platform y with jvm can run, if you port jvm to platform w, it'd also run it and fun fact, earlier versions of pojav (and the thing it's based on, boardwalk) even used android's integrated java (since most of android userland is built in java)

[@netkv]

honestly this is why i'd argue java edition is way more portable, imagine if completelly new cpu architecture and os comes along, you cant port bedrock, it's proprietary c++ (which is compiled directly to suit the platform), while java just needs jvm ported, which is opensource (openjdk) so way more likely to get ported to even most obscure machines

[@netkv]

@VeeFerns pojav actually supports ios completelly (iirc even without jailbreak nowadays) and idk if this is true, but iirc there was way to run linux on ps, but idk if it was ps5 or something else

[@pinklion63]

i used to play bedrock but now i play java and for seeing the direction you look on maps just press F3 on java and it tells you what direction your facing

[@LeviAuren]

Bedrock makes money, Java gives the game longevity. Bedrock is the platform pushed by default and preys upon the unsuspecting. Java is the platform vastly more prolific in content creators, technical players, mods, and multiplayer servers.

[@Americanbadashh]

If you read the technical change patch notes it's very clear that Java is the favorite and main branch of development. Bedrock is basically an advertisement for Java edition.

[@raxoldplays45446]

Minecraft java edition plays sound at 0.8 pitch while minecraft bedrock edition plays sounds at 1.0 pitch

[@caiolaytynher5994]

Opinion and not fact alert I think the major reasons why things are developed faster on java is because it's made on java. Bedrock is C++, which is more tricky to get right. The major advantage of C++ is the speed though, bedrock runs way better.

[@captainclueless8983]

Java: The version they actually care about. Bedrock: the version where they make the game what they want/cash cow.

[@weirdestpro]

real i just hope that specifically the nether roof building is added to bedrock that was the absolute biggest disappointment to me when i first played bedrock edition and it still pains me to this day that you just cant for no reason