Toyota drops HUGE clue on F1 return

[@LawVS]

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[@scottking8189]

Law I got some amazing new merch ideas for you, can I please get a business email

[@rishinarang9966]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y57SpYafrNmperM Honestly, I dont think Aston will leave F1, as its done a huge amount for their business and car sales. People are talking about the brand for the first time in years, and the f1 team has become an integral part of their identity. I think its more likely for the Aston to stay than leave even if lance goes to WEC with the team, and even if he does he will probably stay as a development driver or something, with Lawrence Stroll still retaining a stake in the team.

[@TheRedbirdfly]

As an American I’d love to see Toyota powertrain in a Haas. I sold cars for 34 years 20 of them w Toyota. They are undoubtedly the most reliable on the market. Not to mention Toyota’s Gazoo racing success at every venue they enter. WEC, Dakar, IMSA etc.

[@KingofWolvesii]

not really BTCC but that is more of a work in progress

[@scottyskydog]

If they did. You do realize the engine wouldn’t be based on any Toyota production engine. They would have to develop an F1 specific engine… obviously this is a monumental task which won’t happen over night … take Red Bull for instance with there collaboration with Ford ( two years now ).

[@GianniMarricco]

right on would love to see what they build.

[@DabDabGoose]

Unless Toyota abandon the previous Japanese model done by them and predecessors it will fail like last time, the other series it has done well in are significantly less competitive and with the budget cap they would have to outsmart rather than outspend like they could do in others.

[@luffararnesugerkuk]

Yeah Lexus and Toyota are at the very top of lists such as JD Power, reliability aso, I drive BMW and I am glad they have pulled themselves together lately and really left the worst of the unreliability behind, still a way to go up to Toyota, for sure. More shocking is the turn Honda taken lately, Ford too, Audi almost at the very bottom in the 2024 list last I checked, not that they have been any good last 5 years but really sunk

[@Chaka2225]

I've already heard that Gene Haas is willing to sell the naming rights to the team. I wouldn't be surprised to see him slowly sell them the whole team

[@LawVS]

One scenario could be a gradual takeover of the team to ensure that should Toyota take full control, there is no change operationally.

[@wingracer1614]

Selling the naming rights is not the same as selling the team. It could be called Toyota or whatever but still be owned by Gene. Just like sports stadiums can be called FedEx or whatever but FedEx doesn't own the team.

[@qhu3878]

​​@@wingracer1614 he didnt say naming rights would be the whole team, he said he wouldnt be surprised if the whole team followed naming rights

[@seekhearts]

⁠@@wingracer1614he didn’t say it would be. Selling the naming rights might lead to a gradual takeover of operationsz

[@wingracer1614]

@@seekhearts Except one does not follow the other. Is Ford taking over RB? Is Honda taking over AM? Gene is making money and living the dream while the value of his team continues to skyrocket. F1 has been the best investment he ever made. Why would he sell to anyone? If he wanted to do that, he could have sold to Andretti long ago.

[@madduckuk]

Law's Horner voice is starting to creep in now and again when Horner is nowhere to be seen.

[@LawVS]

That's down to my voice not quite fully recovered yet...it's a little raspy.

[@yercs]

LETS GIVE IT A GOOO!!!

[@afrofantom6631]

its like a symbiote taking over him

[@JLa_802]

I’m so grateful for this channel! As a new obsessive fan as of 2024, I subscribed back in May after finally giving in to my new hyper fixation and I have learned so much about the sport and it’s history from ladder rants alone. Thank you for being the best f1 pundit out there, more success to you in the new year!

[@dotcom137]

3:40 A Gazoo Operation should be the title for the video when they confirm they're back

[@Derfderk]

Someone, quick! Get the ladderman a gazoo!

[@herruu2499]

You're amongst the best speakers on youtube, my friend. I love hearing you talk so enthusiastically about F1. Keep it up.

[@Scratch-Schram]

13:25 About that, I am a F1 fan since 2018 and I heard my first V10, from the Benetton from 1997 and also Micheal's car from that year, last summer during the "Jacks racing day" at TT. I understand what you mean with that. IT'S FLIPPING AWESOME!!!

[@Spike-sk7ql]

What was REALLY awe inspiring, was 22 of them taking off from the line. Then the ear piercing scream. God, I miss those days.

[@Scratch-Schram]

​@@Spike-sk7ql​If I understand you right, you have at least experienced it, when I was born they already got rid of them.😔

[@chipsawdust5816]

@@Spike-sk7ql And turning 18,000 RPM - really miss that sound in F1.

[@yercs]

alpine turning into hitech and haas turning into toyota gr are my pipe dreams

[@KingofWolvesii]

sounds realistic!

[@pauls5745]

That's interesting. I remember seeing somewhere the Hitech logo was among a couple others also interested in a shot in F1.

[@TFSMF2]

2:20 don't forget Volkswagen with Audi

[@icrafterchips]

There are rumours of them already wanting out

[@danielmatheson7305]

Toyota is in the same boat as Volkswagen.

[@formulafish1536]

Don’t forget VW, the world’s second largest car manufacturer, also has involvement through Audi. So we actually have 4 of the top 5 (missing only Hyundai group who sit 4th. The list being Toyota, GM, VW Group, Hyundai/Kia, and Ford.) with both Stallantis (via Ferrari, owned by Fiat) and Honda also being top 10

[@JorgenKremer]

Ferrari is not owned by Fiat. Not outright anymore. I'm not even sure the Agnelli family still has a majority stake in the Ferrari holding company. Same goes for Stellantis. They own 53% of 14% in that company. In Ferrari it's 53% of 24%.

[@Moray2023]

0:43 hopefully they don't do it in a Manor, that car is 10 years out of date now.

[@janberk2784]

ba dum tss

[@eee00000]

completely off topic, but it's been great to watch your channel grow, Law. Keep it up!

[@kzaeytzev4810]

I think all of these major brands coming into the sport is a effect of the relatively new found popularity from DTS. Regardless of what you think about the show itself, DTS has been one the greatest things in the last 20+ years for the sport if not ever.

[@betaich]

globally viewership and populary of formula1 is stil down from 2008, 2024 barely reached the elvels of viewers of 2007.

[@STORMBREAKER_250]

Hot take, but I think Haas could be a great place for Yuki- Japanese driver, Japanese team principal, Japanese title sponsor... Just don't think Honda is too keen on letting their guy go to Toyota lmao.

[@AbrahamArthemius]

It's not impossible tbh. There have been cases of a few promising Honda drivers switching to Toyota back in Super GT & Super Formula.

[@vitoaditya8337]

To its defense though, Yuki actually used to go to Toyota's racing school where he also interacted and (possibly) received help from Kamui Kobayashi before moving to Honda's racing school.

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

Remember who runs TGR (in WEC). If they make a comeback and they put him in charge, even though he's a company man, he knows F1 and I can't see him doing things the way they did last time out.

[@henk4465]

3 biggest... Are we not missing VW in this with Audi? Guess that will make 4 biggest then 😁 Again good review Law! 😊

[@johnpatricklim4509]

VW is in the dumpster fire right now...with plant closures and labor strikes....not surprised they are already planning their exit....

[@pearlstar5323]

He’s missing GM Cadillac too, arguably bigger than Honda and Ford, probably second to Toyota currently.

[@henk4465]

@pearlstar5323 he did include GM... GM, Ford and Toyota were the logo's shown I thought 🤔....

[@toyotaecw]

VW group isn’t doing so hot at the moment.

[@pearlstar5323]

@@henk4465he did include the GM logo but mentioned Honda with AM and not GM in the audio over the image. Honda is trying to acquire Nissan Renault to get to a point that it could challenge Toyota, which is interesting that Law hasn’t talked about how a merger of Honda-Nissan-Renault and what it could mean for Alpine.

[@johnpatricklim4509]

That is why I called Haas Toyota F1 again....oh...and there is a dealership in Texas called Toyota-Haas.....

[@lukademarco3871]

Great video once again! Thank you :)

[@andrewwhite2863]

The editing clip scene had me lmao.

[@R3D4CT3D52]

love this already, loved their old liveries (I NEED THE TOFU SHOP LIVERY)

[@ProgramKiraTV]

6:55 I was ready for a “give it a go”

[@asambi69]

It's possible, it's not like it was in the 2000s throwing 400mil budgets at cars and still making 0. Now it's capped and teams aren't about to go broke every other weekend.

[@frankw8772]

I hear Bugatti may want in to F1 as a partner aswell

[@arkangelarkangel1302]

Me personally the only way I see this, is 1 they keep the French Renault factory, 2 it's a combination of Rimac & Bugatti, and 3 they for now use Audi engine, while they make there own, and also they separate themselves from the Volkswagen group further, because that group is banking on Audi only, that's why I see Lamborghini NEVER GETTING IN F1, even though they had one of the best sales year ever in 2024.

[@hamz__zzz]

A video on Sunday??? Sublime.

[@neoamaru]

I liked your analysis today, i'll be thinking about this now, can't wait to see what happens with that HiTech take you keep mentioning.

[@youridiot898]

Laws christian horner voice is absolutely hilarious

[@edchavez6693]

Between Ford, Honda, VW, GM and potentially Toyota next to Merc and Ferrari…that’s a lotta car power which definitely aligns well with American marketing $$$ power. Glad the foam made some cameos. #foamerofdoubt

[@Cloxxki]

Honda may have rushed to Aston, to keep momentum going, having decided to stay in the sport, and have a capable works team to work with. Bunch of Red Bull friends there already. Aston isn't THE biggest car brand, but making powertrains for their cars, gas, hybrid and electric, wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Doing better as a supplier than Mercedes is an honest target to set. Aston's hypercars now get engines from "privateer" Cosworth. Honda might like that gig for themselves?

[@ExodiaNecross2]

As good as it is Toyota is back in f1 since Austin GP last year i thick Audi is more off a bigger deal coming to F1 which they never done before. Jury is out on cadillac for me. ❤❤❤

[@teamredgutz399]

I would be happy to see Toyota buy Haas which has suffered underinvestment for years. The US will have a genuine American team - Cadillac F1, which is Andretti in all but name.

[@mrfreshkyle1998]

ON A SUNDAY TOO! Wowowowowow

[@ethrboy]

Gene Haas selling to Toyota over the course of a few years (like Audi) would make sense. A complete buyout would be crazy since Gene wants a fat paycheck 😂

[@Foxvalleyproduction]

All Toyota did was buy a sticker. That's where Cadillac screwed up.

[@swidr5626]

Did they? They are in F1 already

[@Foxvalleyproduction]

@@swidr5626 through a sticker, why don't Toyota have to pay 200 million dollars to get in. all the hopes Cadillac had to jump through. when are they in F1? have you ever watched a race.

[@swidr5626]

@@Foxvalleyproduction I meant that Cadillac didn't screw it up, they are already in F1 for 2026 and will have a lot more recognition than Toyota, at least until they will either buy a team, build an engine or just get naming rights, all of them costing huge amounts of money all the same. Not to say that racing in F1 and being a partner are two different things, that give a completely different vibe. If Cadillac will succeed they will get profit off this and it will make the brand more prestigious. When Haas succeeds then what will Toyota gain? A little bit more screen time sure, but not much more. Automotive industry is a lot more complex and there is a reason why those brands want to race, and it's not really just for being seen

[@Foxvalleyproduction]

@swidr5626 oh! I see, Toyota may buy Renault. It's seems hard for one, and easy for others

[@swidr5626]

@@Foxvalleyproduction I am thinking that's going to happen too, especially with how they are linking with Hitech. A lot of it makes sense, Toyota partnered Hass pretty much soon after the mercedes engine rumors, they seem keen to enter, and now that tie-up so it kinda all starts to make sense

[@kdbsuff9625]

Center Parcs? Which one?

[@Marbeary]

Having a Japanese Team Principle in Haas made it easier for Toyota to consider just buy Haas or Naming rights. It is a win both for Gene and Toyota.

[@motelghost477]

Actually there are only NINE teams currently in F1. Red Bull have 4 cars.

[@TheImperfectGuy]

nah man thats a Minardi

[@Spike-sk7ql]

Yeah, well if Red Bull didn't buy Minardi, Minardi would have folded. Red Bull saved the Fienza team, and for that, I thank Dietrich.

[@ONECHAIR_]

lol

[@mmogaddict]

HAAS CNC are pretty bog standard in the Machine CNC world, Toyota certainly doesn't need HAAS CNC in that regards, they would use many other machine tool companies for their production including brands like DMG Mori Seiki, Makino, Okuma, Hermle or Hardinge. The only 'advantage' of HAAS CNC is that they are cheap machines, but at the same time, you get what you paid for.

[@Ravikant.Sharma]

22:15 Shows Honda With a Big Wing which is a logo for Honda motorcycles.

[@vloggdavid]

2:32 you kinda forgot Volkswagen coming in with Audi

[@Eagleracer38x]

I'm not sure Toyota staying in NASCAR for too much longer. There were things that happened last year, like Denny's engine was sent back to Toyota instead of NASCAR and all the engines blowing up.

[@iazy47]

Well since they so dominated on WEC , pretty much can do in f1 now day. Hypercar and f1 have some similarities

[@Thatguytryton7791]

I would love to see a 24 car line up, with 4 cars being cut after qualifying and not racing on sunday

[@bonesdoes6142]

I don’t see Gene selling his team. Not in his lifetime.

[@dimitrijensk2845]

Bros got leads in the paddock now? Awesome!

[@bradcompton33]

If only we could bring back Minardi

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

Why would Toyota want Hass tooling and machining equipments when japan has 4 of the 5 top in the world like mazak, dmg mori, makino and okuma?

[@jonathanmarks1794]

Law. V10s Scream, its V8s that roar

[@tommaidment7810]

It might be interesting to see if Toyota and Hyundai both wanted in - would F1 allow 26 cars?

[@LawVS]

Technically, I think, all tracks with Grade 1 FIA status have to have provisions for 13 teams and 26 cars. However, the Concorde Agreement presently has a max of 24.

[@sonang7721]

Toyota GR said on Dazn Spanish that they want to make Haas more independent of Ferrari

[@LawVS]

Oh! Even more evidence of their ideal endpoint

[@davidmarecek1754]

Technicaly four auto makers, adding VW via Audi on top of Ford, GM and now maybe Toyota

[@daphnelovesL]

Family goes first! But great video!

[@OnlyMeee-ie3dw]

I wonder what BMW Toyota is going to use. They're having problems making new engines that won't blow up now days.

[@JScott-lg4jb]

I’m hoping they let haas be like Red Bull and then give them an engine works deal and then make the car just a moving billboard.

[@battleofwills7189]

Could that result in Toyota leaving WEC?

[@arkangelarkangel1302]

No way, Hypercar is dominated by Toyota, Porsche, and now some Ferrari, all 3 are there to STAY.

[@battleofwills7189]

@@arkangelarkangel1302 - I hope that's the case. Really enjoying there being so many teams in WEC again. Although Lamborghini leaving is a shame. Still in IMSA though.

[@arkangelarkangel1302]

​@@battleofwills7189 Lamborghini had an insane year of sales in 2024, which for Lamborghini that's insane, so personally think they'll be back in 26.

[@JMRope]

It's great to see more big manufactureres show an interest in F1, but let's not get too carried away. We've basically just seen Renault walk away yet again. They have been in and out many times now. Honda has also been in and out multiple times. If Mercedes don't start fighting for championships again soon they could question the benefit of being in F1. BMW came and went pretty quick. Audi may do the same if they don't get the results and Sauber might be forced to buy his team back yet again. Ford are only sort of coming back and last time they were in F1 using the Jaguar name they didn't stay long anyway. GM might not last long before selling the team to Andretti. None of the big auto brands are going to stay in F1 if it isn't economically viable and generally speaking motor racing isn't profitable. That's why they have all pulled out in the past.

[@lancefay6970]

Eh hem 😂😂 i love the teading parts

[@waynec3563]

Under the 2026 PU rules, Toyota will not be able to supply a PU until 2029 if they sign up before June.

[@Chico_Julio]

I want TGR to be in F1. I root for their teams at WEC and WRC.

[@glenmerrick6626]

If you remember that a while back I told you that Toyota was coming back. Maybe next time you will listen to someone that works for GR

[@napkinalsoknownasnapkin]

If anything they're gonna gradually buy out, most likely might see it be Toyota-Haas until they 100% buyout Haas

[@markusjuenemann]

Just a thought: Toyota can't win Le Mans forever and Haas is their backup plan if they leave WEC.

[@nagasako7]

What about 50/50 company Haas Toyota? Or 51/49 Toyota Haas ownership

[@MIXDJ3000]

Toyota will probably be a title partner and an Engine supplier. I think there is still a bit of trauma from the old days so I can't see as of right now that Toyota will make a full return. I think it's going to be a Haas-Toyota F1 Team with a Toyota power train. Because personally, I'd like the Haas name to stay in F1.

[@darthbone8487]

All part of the Haasterplan

[@Hydrnaught]

It'd be great!! 3 of the biggest names on the globe back powering the fastest cars on the planet. Mmmmmmm, I'm in.

[@chipsawdust5816]

Toyota should've stuck with it in 2010 I think they would've had a breakthrough. But they were spending money hand over fist for not great results up till then.

[@Spoonley]

As an American who owns a Toyota, the haas would never have any reliability problems if they got Toyota power 😂

[@sqwark4523]

Bring back the JDM to F1 this time. Mitsubishi and Subaru are next :P

[@superferrariman]

Gazoo Racing is not Toyota Racing F1…

[@THEBOZZ1801]

Don't forget VW with Audi

[@barnigranero5882]

They're not prestigious enough to join Formula 1 and would be bad for the image of the sport. Given that Andretti are more prestigious and were not allowed in.

[@NiclasHorn]

i have nothing against Toyota to return, but i am tired of Honda and Toyota leaving and coming back over again. and Honda is one of the worst i am leaving for ever, but i am back 4 years later..

[@NiclasHorn]

4:00 That´s true Toyota was non of that, just as Haas has been and still are, non of that what it takes to be in F1.

[@chiefkeef74]

It would be nice if Haas becomes a Toyota works team instead of a Ferrari customer.

[@carstenschroder7054]

😂 nice trophy from the last vacation😂

[@luckystrike240]

Shows a GM symbol and calls it Honda @2:29 😢

[@LawVS]

Sorry my mistake. I meant to say GM.

[@luckystrike240]

@LawVS ah I was kidding more than anything no worries love your videos!!

[@waynesmith2287]

Bring back V10's

[@scottking8189]

Day 4 asking for laws business email to submit the best new merch ideas he’s heard (please I just want you to see them)

[@moonbathing2002]

Ooo how intriguing, exciting times indeed. The prospect of F1 resurrecting V10's (with suitable fuel) is so s@%y!

[@metooidiot]

hell yeah sunday video

[@swidr5626]

So you see Hitech turning into Hitech TGR and not think that Toyota could actually buy Alpine instead huh.. I didn't expect the biggest conspiracy theorist here to think it's not gonna happen..

[@LawVS]

I feel Toyota is leveraging two different teams, but Haas is their true technical partner. They want a pathway for their own drivers but Haas doesn't have a junior academy of their own, aside from their Ferrari connection. Hitech was game.

[@swidr5626]

@@LawVS Yeah that makes sense, but for me it kinda smells like a BMW and Williams, Mclaren and Mercedes (in late 2000's) or Red Bull and Sauber situation, where they do have a partnership with other team but they also consider a second option to get into F1. Yeah all the three of those happened from fallouts and just finding an opportunity in case of Mercedes, but Gene might be a lot tougher person to negociate and maybe they might consider looking at other options..

[@scottking8189]

Haha if you turn your volume up at 2:40 you can hear laws kid😂😂 f1 dad

[@hyosang82]

Perhaps Papa Stroll should spend 2 billion dollars to see if Lance can win a Grand Prix 🤣🤣🤣

[@smol9832]

We need hyundai in f1 if toyota buys haas

[@bigprocrastinator]

Would love to see Toyota power Haas then buy Haas out then re-brand as Lexus GR F1

[@aberamagold7509]

Dude, you do know that you are allowed to take a day off.

[@LawVS]

I know. Hence why I'm doing these videos now and then I'm gonna take a week off!

[@Spike-sk7ql]

If Toyota, or any other Japanese company enters as a full on works team, they will fail just like before, unless they can restructure the way the F1 team is ran. The culture in the Japanese companies does not mend well with the fast paced, "todays thing is already 3 months outdated compared to what the factory is working on" F1 world. It has proven itself in the past. Honda, more than once had a works team. The engine department did great things, but the race team could never keep up. Toyota, one time, and it did not work out. Both companies bowed out, kind of in ruin. Brawn bought Honda F1 for something like $1. The culture doesnt allow for fast, out of the box thinking.

[@arkangelarkangel1302]

I'm convinced F1 ONLY WANTS Car Manufacturers all over the world as the teams from now on, no more nitch teams like Benetton, or mom and pop teams like Williams, thats why, I believe there is ONLY ONE MARKET they covet for 12th team, and that is Genesis/ Hyundai and then they'll have the growing South Korean MKT.

[@anngo4140]

Let's goooo

[@Pilch9]

I love your passion for this, and I admire Toyota for what they are and do. But… nothing will come of it. Sorry. F1 requires an agile, aggressive and fast moving company. None of which Toyota can be.

[@LawVS]

Toyota the titanic company? No. GR Toyota? For sure.

[@mikewhite69420]

gaZOOOoooo!

[@evonne_o]

Toyota wasn't that good the last time.

[@duketastrophe]

👓ahem...

[@stepan.poluianov]

"... three of biggest automakers on the planet." Ford, Honda, Toyota, while showing Ford-GM-Toyota logos. Are VAG and Hyundai a joke to you? Ford is pretty far away from being the biggest automaker in the global scale, as well as Honda.

[@LawVS]

My mistake. I was referring to the American market.

[@stepan.poluianov]

@@LawVS Thanks, it does not change your idea that large manufacturers, VW with Audi, GM and Toyota (the largest one) are diving into F1. That is very good for the sport.

[@Frostbyte-Game-Studio]

i havent watched the vid yet, if this one also has that stupid horner impression i'm done

[@benderunit44]

Foam is not funny

[@LawVS]

I know. It's doubtful.

[@crapmalls]

Andrettiyota

[@aoife1122]

Ah now, Law... Ford, GM and Honda? They're not even close to the "biggest automakers on the planet" ... their revenue is dwarfed by the likes of Volkswagen and Toyota. (Even Mercedes is bigger) 😉 P.S. You newly found obsession with the constructors title is hilarious. This is Formula 1, where only the World Drivers' Championship counts. World Constructor's Championship? Just a nicer word for "wooden spoon". 😂

[@pearlstar5323]

GM, Ford, and Toyota are the biggest in terms of their sole brand sales and factories. Volkswagen group is big, but that includes Porsche and Audi and fyi German automakers are taking heavy hits in the markets. They fell behind the ev movement while GM has factories for ev battery manufacturing so it and Toyota are going to be back on top.

[@LawVS]

Sorry I meant Toyota instead of Honda.

[@aoife1122]

@@pearlstar5323 Well, looking at their revenue in 2024, Ford and Honda are not even among the top 5 automakers in the world.

[@luffararnesugerkuk]

By 2030? 😂 We can imho never have the best competition for long periods of time cause they always suck up to huge manufacturers in this fake new F1 presenting to be more democratic when in reality is just typical US big corp. When we cannot have good competition, the solution is always try to fake it until it sticks, let's be honest who really want 50% electrification, really? We can all the lovely noise burning Ethanol, way simpler engines where everyone can have a chance at making a somewhat competitive package, now we wait 4-5 years for everyone who got things wrong to catch up, when everything is finally tight between multiple top teams at least, yeah that's right we move on again, reboot, leave many behind when 1 team get it right, be that RBR, Mercedes or anyone else I don't care. Think of it, what is after 50% electrification , really ask yourselves naturally what comes after this? Unless we back track and get it right, this a sport of emotions, live it used to be smell, noise, racing..