Toyota Is Saving Internal Combustion Engines!

[@MarcosR413]

Dealer Mark-ups will probably kill both cars.

[@MR3DDev]

This is something I always wonder. When a manufacturer says "we are retiring this car because it did not sell well", did anyone check to see how was this car being priced by the dealerships?

[@raymondalvarez9925]

Facts

[@Racer973]

And the crazy apr

[@Andernol]

Push your representatives to introduce legislation barring dealerships. We're slowly but steadily moving in that direction and the more people behind it, the sooner it'll happen.

[@static_Tricolor_camry]

I think the MR2 and Celica, will kill the GR Corolla.

[@MrStlvette]

If they overprice the MR2 they are fools! A Porsche owner/buyer isn’t moving to a Toyota. Keep it at 45k at 60k you can get a C8 & that’s NO comparison to a 4 banger MR2.

[@ludicrousspeeds4938]

If they can push the price into the $30ks, that would be amazing.

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

​@@ludicrousspeeds4938All they have to do is just not add any useless sensors stuff just mechanical then maybe.

[@ludicrousspeeds4938]

@@EnhancedTrashBin Easier said than done. They’ll add that stuff to appeal to more than just enthusiasts. They need to sell these things to keep them alive, and if they don’t have stuff normal people want, they won’t survive long.

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

@@ludicrousspeeds4938 Sadly that is true, but even if they did still try to appeal to normal people, it's not like those consumers will buy it over camrys/corollas because of price tag and especially people that prefer bigger cars. Not to mention there is way cheaper options like Nissan (although they're mostly crap).

[@ludicrousspeeds4938]

@@EnhancedTrashBin They’ve gotta get REAL creative with the marketing on these.

[@otterconnor942]

It's upsetting that they don't understand that cheap manual sports cars are awesome

[@Atech-yz2ko]

Its upsetting no one is putting theyre money where their mouth is a purchase a showroom car instead of a sudden. If you don't buy it they won't make it

[@otterconnor942]

@@Atech-yz2ko the only reason why I'm not in a Miata is because I'm 6'3" and my head was pressed against the roof. The BRZ is probably going to be my next car

[@stedy142]

They do understand. That's what the 86 is. The 86 is cheap because the costs are shared with Subaru. I doubt any low volume, 100% in house designed and built vehicle will be cheap anymore.

[@otterconnor942]

@@stedy142 we only have the Miata and the BRZ-86 for sub 30k sports cars. I don't see how we are disagreeing with my original comment.

[@insid3493]

That's what the GR86 is for...

[@brocktonbensch1356]

A fairly priced MR2 could be a game changer. It would be such a unique offering just as its predecessors that it would be tough for enthusiasts to ignore.

[@kyleslater5245]

Fairly priced anything would be though…

[@brocktonbensch1356]

Haha you’re not wrong!

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

4:32 IS A GIANT RED FLAG. This thing will be expensive.

[@rushnerd]

Both the MR2 and ESPECIALLY the Celica were always affordable sports cars and fairly no-frills and spartan. I can already see them ditching all that and making them super powerful fancy cars that no one will really be able to afford. I'll stick with my 88' Supra and 01' Celica GT-S.

[@Peter-ff1tp]

Lol. You realize that your Supra and GTS are fancy versions of the Celica. Right?

[@rushnerd]

@@Peter-ff1tp I mean the MK3 is when the Supra model split from just being an upgrade to it's own car. And yes my GT-S is a fancy version of itself?

[@yengchai]

GR86 are still affordable in my opinion. I have a feeling this two new cars will have double the price tags of a GR86

[@MyDirtydan]

I want the celica to just be a fun car. Don't need a bunch fancy tech on the inside. Give it a great sporty engine, nice sport suspension, and leave it alone. Keep it fun and affordable.

[@Okaystory-g6l]

I got an 1988 Celica ST. The car is seriously fun. I never once wanted this thing to be a race car.

[@markvicferrer]

When Subaru talks about how it's low slung boxer engines have a lower center of gravity, I wonder how well it could work in a mid engine design like the MR2.

[@bhuvstechworld9743]

Look at the porsche cayman

[@jeffarcher400]

I've been thinking about a Subaru WRX engine in a Porsche to get past the bore scoring and IMS issues but the California air resource board would never go for it.​@@bhuvstechworld9743

[@joby602]

Almost everyone with a BRZ would be happy if it came with a high revving toyota 4 banger in it. Not that i've talked to everyone.

[@peejayem4700]

@@joby602G16EGTS would do fine for me

[@ChronoCard]

Look at the Factory Five 818.

[@Illegal_Alien84]

400 on a 4-cylinder sounds good 🔥

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Sounds like a granade ready to explode.

[@Ryne_Kai]

Not really, there are builds in pro drift where people get ~1000​ from sr 20 and those engines still survive for quite some time@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan

[@BotulinSpikedMarzipan]

​@@EnriqueAThieleSolivanyou just don't know how to do eht

[@Nemoticon]

@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan ...things have moved on since the 90s.

[@tMena45888]

and young people will still be priced out

[@HairyButWhole]

When young drivers had brand new cars anyway? Those are marketed to 80s-90s kids that dreamed about the originals when they were young.

[@collinkaufman2316]

​@@HairyButWholebruh this car is litterally for me

[@WoodRumble]

Why should I care about if "young people" can afford it or not?

[@static7985]

@@WoodRumble because unlike you, old man, young people actually know how to drive a sports car rather than going 5 under the speed limit on the highway.

[@collinkaufman2316]

@@WoodRumble it goes for all cheap looking cars, they are all expensive. And we all want this one to be cheap because it can be and its a very awesome car

[@mcld4214]

If theyre gunning for the cayman they reallllyyyy need to get lotus on board

[@Mystic7001]

Lotus is dead. The Emira was there last breath before they switch to full electric as it is now own by a chinese company by the name of Geely

[@tdumford1]

I owned a 91 MR2 turbo that put 317hp to the wheels. dang I miss that car. fricken rocket that looked amazing as well.

[@ricardo762]

If they make the new MR2 affordable I can see a community built around it and make body kits for it.

[@ahsoongoh4499]

Did Toyota just go full force Initial D?

[@collinkaufman2316]

Only if they don't overprice it

[@users4007]

gotta milk the shit out of the jdm hype

[@tristanmoore2154]

It's gotta have pop up headlights!! I know they are considered "unsafe" these days but HGAS, they are cool as hell and are an awesome feature.

[@ronaldannas1935]

This could be yet another awesome car, that may never come to the US shores.

[@eljefe3993]

EVs are not fully electric when diesel generators run the charge stations 😂😂

[@ThatSpecificIndividual]

Still far less co2 per mile compared to gas.

[@peejayem4700]

screw charge stations, powering them from the home rooftop is the way to go

[@BalIsDeep69]

True. EVs are only good for the environment with the condition that the source of energy in your city is clean to a certain degree. That being said most people buy them since gas is so fucking expansive right now

[@mf.danger9235]

Still produce less carbon emissions than ice, but lithium mining is usually done by children 💁

[@Nemoticon]

@@BalIsDeep69 'Good for the environment' is never gonna be a tihng for cars no matter what technology you use. All the heat cost and CO2 emissions is spent during manufacture, using exotic, rare earth materials to make the batteries, cars are still essentially metal bodies with plastic niteriors running on rubber tires, they don't have long service life and therefore end up getting dumped soon as well as being harder to recycle. Above it all, cars are astill being manufacturered in the 10s of millions per year. None of this is sustainable, lol. I love all cars are a capitolist consumer, but we have to recognise the fact, there is no one technology that 'save's all', lol.

[@TinoMiller]

Sounds good but will the engine make it off the lot without exploding or leaking oil or stalling ??

[@MARCO-rq2ph]

its a toyota,not an audi

[@TinoMiller]

​@@MARCO-rq2ph no matter what car it is .. Will it make it off the lot ..

[@Musashi_returned]

@@TinoMiller T O Y O T A

[@wilhelmZ2000]

If it's solely a ice car I don't think the u.s would let them sell it here no matter how much we would want it.

[@LawnMower-jv8hg]

That's dumb af

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Toyota has brand new engines they will be able to sell those.

[@sigmaprojects]

Why is that when others sell fully ICE cars?

[@mistersecret88]

The rims are tooo big in pics

[@mcld4214]

I wish they could revive the celica like the first gen and make an actual muscle car since that market is pretty slim

[@courtneypuzzo2502]

I'd love a Celica or MR 2 as I'm single middle aged and admired those cars when I was growing up 90s early 2000s the only other car I wish Toyota would revive is the Camry Solara though in that case I'm partial to the Camry because my late maternal grandmother owned two as her last cars and younger brother inherited the last one when she stopped driving for med reasons in 2016 has less than 40k miles on it at 20 yrs. old

[@cerisem7727]

Toyota is going to be killing off their model before it's even released if they price the MR2 at the $60-70k range. Also the MR2 has already been hinted to be the FT-SE from a while back, and the Celica has been mostly in the dark by Toyota. The S-FR has been rumored to go into production since they are building a vehicle with Daihatsu and not Mazda. That vehicle is to be priced under the $20k range, "supposedly".

[@elfishcoder7287]

Nope wrong. The FT-SE is a whole new electric car

[@jordanb3641]

adjusted for inflation thats pretty much what the turbo models cost in the 90s

[@Hahahbrrrrr]

All hail Toyota!

[@toppy83]

I got a 2000 Toyota Celica imported from Japan, love that car, and it will be 25 years next year, cool if they drop a new one then =)

[@Changingtesting]

Cant wait to see videos comparing the 4cyl c63 vs MR2 vs Celica vs Prelude. I just hope and HOPE that the MR2, Celica, and Prelude as a trio will be cheap cars no more than 37k… one can dream

[@johnfurey3593]

Its not the same 4 wheel drive box as the yaris. The celicia layout is completely different.

[@uptoolayte1]

I wanted a Supra for years and when I recently priced a new one locally, the otd is close to 70k. The new Tesla model 3 performance really upped its game offering more power and suspension upgrades, as well as the refreshed look. At 47.5k or 52k otd, I couldnt pass it up especially since it checked the boxes like 4 doors, safety, storage, comfort and that 17 speaker sound system. Ill never track a car and I dont get out to the canyons much so for far less money, i got a quicker awd car that has been a blast to drive. Sure it will depreciate faster but at the price and apr % and low insurance cost, it makes more sense financially for me. I hope they dont price out their potential customers with these exciting new offerings.

[@tropicalstorm339]

Where did you get the "320 horsepower inline-6 turbo 3 cylinder from the GR-Yaris"?

[@elfishcoder7287]

He said 1.6 not inline 6.

[@tropicalstorm339]

@@elfishcoder7287 Watch it again... at around 5:30, he said *_320 horsepower inline-6 turbo 3 cylinder from the GR-Yaris_*

[@BrodyRoe-y3s]

I would love to see a Japanese car brand to team with Yamaha to bring the crossplane inline four to a sports car. If they could scale the engine up and keep the rpms it would sound amazing and have decent performance.

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

I remember in the early 2000's I was OBSESSED with getting an MR2...that thing was called Baby Ferrari for a reason! There was even a guy in Vegas that built out a SW20 with 700+ HP!!! The last gen MR2 and Celica that came out were just jokes and looked like absolute ass.

[@taketheredpill1452]

Honda Prelude would be sick but no hybrid BS!!!! MR2 would be awesome

[@KTMcaptain]

I’m an enthusiast but being realistic few people care about these things. Just look at the GT86 sales. That’s already a very similar car to the celica even better being RWD yet not very popular.

[@oscarholman]

ICE is the horse and buggy from the early 1900s. Doubling down? These OEMs are toast.

[@lilgabriel0517]

2:36 That Celica is a thing of beauty, looks better than the Supra if you ask me 👀

[@mimimimiata]

and for the MR2 I want the I3, but naturally aspirated and RWD costing around 35k €

[@bigboipluto5755]

Price is meh imo

[@RogueBeatsARG]

I hope the celica does not look like that 1:49 cause that could mean that the Celica is better than the Supra now

[@The-Purple-Myth]

The Celica is the starting of the Supras

[@rezamollah4899]

More importantly. Will there be a manual?

[@bemad7886]

If the mazda subaru and toyota make an affordable car for america they will win all of my respect (30k is not affordable btw)

[@jjjayd09]

15k and under 😭

[@norman1907]

Id love an mr2 "eray" of sorts with front wheel electric boost and a small battery

[@mimimimiata]

and can we also get a cheaper 2wd manual celica with an i3 like in the gr yaris?

[@d.y.8276]

Peugeot and Toyota need a collab. Toyota reliability with Peugeots m suspension, handling and styling

[@sethi100]

70K? No thanks.

[@thebeginnerdude7860]

Toyota took a HUGE W

[@Kopernicus67]

Great cars, but what Honda, Toyota and other manufacturers are doing it putting the name plate from a formerly inexpensive performance car and jacking up the price into Porsche territory. The original MR2 was inexpensive if you stayed with the base engine. The Celica was the quintessential hot hatch, quick, inexpensive, fun. The only hot hatches (some aren't even hatches anymore) left are the Civic SI, Golf GTI and WRX. All can be had for around $30k. The Subaru/Toyota BRZ/GR is also great fun for the money.

[@benmarley3086]

Yeah nah. The only Toyota worth buying is the GR86. No 3cyl turbos, no 70k sports cars.

[@kennethlopez2978]

they should already fast track hydrogen tech and slap it on to these iconic cars

[@ELXABER]

Too bad they won't do a split version with one having the 3cyl, 6-speed manual, RWD to keep cost and weight down and excitement max, then a GR version with the 2.0L, AWD hybrid, DCT.

[@thematthewsextonshow]

This is the way.

[@ELXABER]

@@thematthewsextonshow Righ? Then you can hit both markets, 50k and 70k, entry sports for the enthusiast, and higher-end sports. It would be like a Celica and a Supra for today both on the MR platform with mid-engine. I'd go for the first one, not just for the cost but for the thrill of driving. Too bad it probably won't occur to them.

[@donaldbibey6097]

The mr2 is mostly done already, just take the lotus emira and change the styling.

[@Whoareyoucalling]

Scotty Kilmer got his pocket book primed for the new Celica.

[@JujuInFlames]

Definitely something cool to see on the road but also something me or anyone my age wouldn’t be able to afford lmao

[@noelchignell1048]

Cracks me up pronouncing Celica as: Sell licka 🤣

[@WilumSorensen]

I belive toyota 100% that hybrid is the future

[@kycilay]

7:02 Sorry… did you say aw2 for the gen 2 mr2? w h a t?

[@SlayTheSins]

Weird combination, but Toyota en BMW are my favorite cars

[@dansacco1964]

I would love an EV Mr2 or Celica. Car companies can easily offer both drivetrains in the same chassis. Daily commute with an EV is awesome but my Nissan leaf is far from cool or sporty.

[@AnimeRoot]

Just don't drive them over 84 MPH because Toyota will deny your warranty

[@gentleg5182]

Are they gonna fix the catching on fire part?

[@Jayflex23]

You mean The two out of 12k cars made? Though I don’t like how they handled the warranty issue, let’s not make it as if 9 out of 10 gr corollas had this happen to em…..

[@laptopdragon]

manual transmission is the only option I would entertain... and I've had a few toyotas, and still have a toyota truck, and their manual trans's are the best. Especially compared to what the Supra did... bmw engine with that magnificent manual transmission is far better than bmw..so I could see a lot of BMW owners moving to a toyota MR2, or maybe the celica if it was sporty, classy and powerful enough to take on their 2 series... but probably not going to pull the Porsche people over without something spectacular. which Toyota could absolutely pull off if they made a special version like an inline 6 cylinder, twin turbo.

[@lightningsrt4707]

Hybrid is the way to go and manufacturers don’t understand this yet.

[@sha_aleph0]

irohazaka driver buying the new mr2: I want either the celica or the mr2 to be in mfghost after its release

[@taketheredpill1452]

MR2 with an aluminum 4-cylinder (2.4) and rear wheel drive. Coupe option is a MUST - #FConvertibles

[@jakeeaves218]

I hope they are hybrids!

[@clanpsi]

As long as it's a GT-Four.

[@cruisecontrol6938]

That SpongeBob intro was spot on perfect

[@tomowens7499]

my first new car i bought myself was a fully loaded 1991 MR2 with t tops, it was a blast...I just turned 21 then. the next generation of MR2, the convertible one was (i think) ugly as hell and underpowered... hope they get the next one right! edit: oh! and to your point about 'poor man's ferrari'... i did indeed get asked once if it was a ferrari, at a stop light in hollywood.

[@vinnythompson1]

if this is true it will turn Toyota king as long as they do it right

[@DoctorJay184]

I'll believe it when I see it.

[@SaltyBob355]

That Hummer would have been epic with a diesel.

[@jeffarcher400]

Has there ever been an AWD mid engine car? There aren't many mids to think of. Maybe a Lamborghini but those aren't even real cars. They're more like a cross between art,space ship and vibrating marital aid. I'd be happy with a slightly updated gen 2 MR2 with electric hub motors in front for under $30k. With a trunk while I am wishing. No more snap oversteer 😅.

[@ryanblacklock3005]

Audi R8 came is awd with a manual. V10 awd mid engine manual truly one for the history books.

[@Darkslide2AR-FE]

60k price tag is ridiculous for the MR-2 then dealer mark up on top is going to kill the car. 40K range is more ideal for it.

[@BoBnotThat1]

W all around, apart from the price.

[@0PsychosisMedia0]

70k for a MR2?...rather get a Elise/Exige instead. The lost and true MR2. 70k for a MR2 is not going to fly.

[@blue6gun]

No pop-ups no money from me. Laws may have changed but my preferences are solid lol

[@999benhonda]

I wonder who's vehicle they will rebrand as the celica.

[@AdrianRund]

Basically the new Celica is going to be the old bmw e46. “Sporty yet refined” 😂

[@mikexhi287]

Is the price is higher than a Supra I’m taking the 6 cylinder

[@slacker10point06]

So does this mean that they are going to discontinue the GR86?

[@halrichard1969]

The automotive industry has outpriced themselves by a large margin. Some maker will soon introduce performance/efficiency/price they will BREAK Auto Makers in Half.

[@pastperformance2285]

Their hybrid approach is leading the pack. Our new Lexus h has been a dream. Try it before you knock it!

[@cstorey987]

Hybrids have more parts that can and will fail. I just want a simple cheap car. Hybrids are not the answer!

[@TheUnnamedAssailant]

What I don’t understand is that their biggest and most loyal enthusiast won’t get a chance at it, I rather have Porsche 718 then a MR2 especially with that money. Why not create an entry level MR2 that more reasonable in price and then make a better version with better specs for the wealthier buyers? I wish I had the money to start a car company, I’d love to make a reasonably priced, mid engine car for car enthusiasts of all incomes.

[@richardwood9177]

Ditch the 86 for an MR2. The 86 has always been a bit, nah! Celica 2+2. Yes. Then Supra 2 seater. Here’s a thing. Give them their own name. Build the GR name. Go racing. Seriously racing! Can we have a V8 version of the Supra as a 2++2 to coincide with the Supercars entry? The 4.0 ltr is still a good engine but maybe needs a GR upgrade. A modern day Porsche 928? Much underrated.

[@notabandicoot5227]

I miss my gt4’s

[@northsea177]

a Corrvette is way faster 65 grand.

[@ProfessorOzone]

If it's all wheel drive, wouldn't that be an MR4? LOL. This is so exciting. Toyota hasn't really made a decent sporty car in a long time (Supra = BMW, GR86 = Subaru). But $70,000? Come on! Like I have a hard time finding a nice car at $70k. Not sure this is really going back to the roots. More like going back to the trunk.

[@bensonbingle2578]

According to the cover it's actually BMW saving combustion engines 😂

[@najeebshah.]

no one will go for a toyota is a porsche has a model in the same price bracket

[@THEBIGCHULETA]

The irony! We still won’t be able to afford them….

[@aidanfett7685]

Selika what’s that?

[@loveearth7681]

I owned the first generation of MR2, it was a great and super fun car in college, but $70k grand today is STUPID! That is Toyota’s problem, greed. Make it fun, simple and affordable and you’ll sell a ton of them. Get back to what made Toyota a fun reliable sports car. MR2.

[@dealy9268]

BRING BACK THE SATURN SC2!

[@AcuRobbie]

these car companies keep making sports cars that aren't sports car priced, and they are under produced.

[@lees5313]

They will put a corolla base model engine in the celica

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

Price-wise....if Toyota even comes close to pricing them where they are being reported to....they're idiots. Just like when Nissan relaunched the Z in the early 2000's....Carlos Chosn said in his internal company meeting (I worked for Nissan Finance HQ at the time), he wanted to bring the Z back and make it the "affordable, $20,000 sports car." But when it actually launched.....$34,000+. And it just kept going up. Toyota needs to start the MR2 around $28k, and the Celica around $35k to even BEGIN to see people choosing them over other cars. With the death of the Charger, Challenger, Camaro, the Z series (the newest one was DOA), and virtually every other sports car, there are so few options that to start pricing them at $70 would be insanity.

[@joshlockie9285]

It’s almost like the 90’s sports cars is what everyone wants why not keep making them?

[@dhesh0066]

320hp inline 6 turbo 3 cylinder?

[@pthrelkeld090]

I somehow know whatever we get (If we get it) in America won't be the same. We always get some bullshit downgrade, or we don't get it at all, sooo many sick ass cars and trucks we flat out do not have here

[@venomousninetails]

Definitely doing a rear seat delete if Toyota releases a new Celica.

[@Atech-yz2ko]

I urge nissan to take notes