TOYOTA Landcruiser 79 series 100,000km REVIEW

[@Cliff22Dive]

What a Great no BS review. Keep up the great work

[@FJUH]

Matt M agree! Ronny is well worth listening to when it comes to anything 4wd. Unlike certain off road personalities you know his info will not be dictated by sponsorship but is real world tested. Great content!

[@nicofourie3217]

like youre videos. keep it up. nico. south africa

[@tpv59]

WHAT A FANTASTIC REVIEW ! Simple, Honest, NO Krapp, Raw. SPOT ON. Just what we want. Please give us more!

[@Naessey]

Thanks thanks thanks so much. I almost dropped 120 grand on a second hand model and after this review decided to go with the new Isuzu Dmax. Everything you said was so amazingly true. What an incredible no bullshit review. This is a car with so many features you have to spend a lot more money on to get it right. I’ve driven the same vehicle with 100 K spent on it...And it was amazing. But then it was a 250 K vehicle. I spent 20 K on the Isuzu and it’s an 80 K vehicle. No regrets. Thank you for the most amazing review

[@MrBlonde294]

people dreaming owning a bugatti, i dreaming owning a land cruiser 79!

[@wagyuwahyu9153]

Mine too

[@georgesimmons2946]

@@wagyuwahyu9153 OMG didn't you listen to the review, you need to spend so much money on this rubbish, still had lots of mechanical troubles, design faults and very uncomfortable car to drive, the most over rated 4WD on the market.

[@humbertorubi2735]

George Simmons Reading at your comment I thought you was talking about a Wrangler or discovery 🤣. No car is perfect and the cruiser is for people who know what they want not for kids who want the things solved.

[@destroyer8984]

Same

[@commonsense-grs]

@@humbertorubi2735 of course no car is perfect, I didn't say that. These dual cabs are very costly to buy in the first place and Toyota throw in major design faults. Why did you think I was talking about the Jeep Wrangler or discovery, I'm telling you these 2 cars are far, far better off the show room floor. The 79 has a crap interior, very small interior as well, for a company to sell a 4WD with 100mm smaller rear track is just ridiculous. The power out from this so called powerful V8 diesel is woeful, I don't care what they say, need to spend another $5000 to get up to a moderate output. The suspension is very average, need to spend a fortune here. Ground clearance is very poor, need to spend a big fortune here. Standard tyres are far to small, need spend more money. No storage anywhere, so need to spend a fortune here. And the alternator is just crap, in a crap location and these sealed water units are costly, another fortune. Changing out the rear diff assembly is very costly, another fortune here. The starter motor is in a crap location, do lots of water crossing you will drown it, another fortune here. The sound system, well it really doesn't have one, need to charge that out. Now don't get me wrong, when they are fully modified and kitted with the best gear, they are great, but you will send up to and over $150,000, got to be kidding. I nearly forgot, you can't get a auto transmission only a manual.

[@bayls8422]

I always hate filling my 100 series Sahara petrol wagon at 20lt per 100km city cycle and 15lt per 100km but after seeing the consumption rates of the 79 I'm much happier. 100 rides like a limo and has every creature comfort known to man other than a built in foot massager. Second hand it's also $20000 to $30000 cheaper than a 79 and that's a lot of fuel ! Great review Ronny as always !

[@94Gidge]

Bayl's i have a vdj 79 for a work vehicle runing at gvm (toolbox,air compressor, and generator/welde plus parts) licky to get 18 to 20 litres/100km in good conditions on the highway

[@94Gidge]

a 105 series runs a 1hz not a 12ht

[@bayls8422]

PerthEnduro not at the time I bought my 100 (2010), petrol 100 was minimum 20k less than a turbo diesel 100 at the time (and much less than a 70 series). Never bothered me much the last 7 years because the company I worked for paid my fuel, but am no longer with them.

[@4xTouring]

Toyota's focus market for the 70's is mining, agriculture, the UN, Red Cross and the NGOs.Someone I knew at Toyota said the recreation market only makes up less than 10%. So creature comforts is the last on their thinking. I used to work with some of these NGOs back in Africa. The drivers abuse the vehicles and don't really care. Routine servicing was mostly never on time. Yet these were just about the only vehicles that could take the punishment and still last at least half a mil kms. One construction company I knew had a replacement policy of 800,000kms or a write-off, which ever came first. Most of their fleet worked in rural africa on infrastructure projects usually carrying loads well in excess of 1.5tonnes over poorly maintained gravel roads. As for the narrower rear axle, it's is aimed at carrying more load capacity which the 70's core market looks for.

[@petersafaritec7937]

Hi Dunca, I have been somewhat in the same boat as U reg NGO`s etc. We ran a bigger fleet of J75`s & they barely lasted more than 3 years &

[@pheonixfps9248]

I've worked on plenty myself, pre 2012 where quite common to bust motors before 300k. Never seen a single one over.

[@petersafaritec7937]

Well, my `01 is past 300K Rescently saw a pic from AUS with well above 700K... They are out there :-)

[@pheonixfps9248]

@@petersafaritec7937 01, is not a diesel v8. It'll be a petrol v8, 1hz, 1hdt or 1hd-fte, and those will do 6-700kms easy. A turbo diesel v8 won't.

[@SamKhan-lk5pf]

On the other hand if you want comfort buy a new one 200 series...

[@dinosshed]

Absolutely spot on review, painted a perfect picture for what they are. I personally can’t see the value in it for what I do, but if you have an endless flow of cash it makes the decision less crucial. My biggest problems with them is the spring hangers, no comfort, no articulation and lack of power.

[@4west7]

Wicked video Ronny. I'm 6 weeks away from getting my 79 series dual cab, can't wait!

[@psiwog]

Appreciate the honest review mate. This is why I will never update my Land Rover Discovery 2. For around $10k-$15k you get beautiful interior, more room, huge head room, extremely efficient TD5 (though needs more power), solid, coil sprung front and rear diffs, off-road traction control and down hill decent and is easy to fix. Throw $20k at it and it competes with anything off-road and does so in comfort. The cruiser is a beast of a truck and does what it needs to incredibly well, its just the cost of them is absurd to what you get.

[@Spot-lp3yd]

A great honest review. Basically they are a money pit. The money you spend on these vehicles is absolutely ridiculous. I know this to be true because I have an 08 single cab. I once started to add up all the money I spent on it, but got to a certain figure then didn’t want to know anymore. Having said all that I would never go back to a “normal” 4wd again. These things are brilliant. It is the classic love hate relationship.

[@goldenboyi1989]

you should have bought a Hilux-cheaper and does the same thing-No one goes off road 5 days a week but most people work 5 days a week using tarmac

[@Bush_Tucker]

@@goldenboyi1989 better off with a dmax then a hilux

[@ZombieHoard]

Love the straight forward no sugar coating review. No wonder I subscribed long ago. Keep up the good work and hope your channel grows.

[@tomcardale5596]

I drive a Defender 110 that's a year older than your 79. Interior comfort, everything you said about the LC could have been said about the LR. Handbrake: same problem. Fuel: massive difference. Road use sat all day at 110kph I get 33mpg (imperial) which I think converts to about 8.5l/100km. That's fully loaded up for weeks away from home, loads of water, food, fridge, spares, awning etc etc. I now see why you need to carry so much fuel! Of course the Defender has its own set of irritating quirks! That said, for me, the only two vehicles worth considering are the 110 hardtop (van) and the 78 Troopie, and for me the Defender wins. Not to say it couldn't easily be bettered, it just hasn't been.

[@ZacharyE]

If only Toyota brought these to the US..... my Tacoma would be gone.

[@joshsnow3603]

That's no joke. I would instantly trade in my built 2nd gen with front and rear pneumatic lockers.

[@frolickable]

Love how you threw the alternator away and you did a double take to make sure it landed and rolled somewhere without hitting anything else haha Thank you for the review Ronny, I'm a bit late on this video.

[@BorisEkner]

Thanks for you honest opinions, Ronny. I would love to have a 79 or a 76 series - but I can’t afford any of them - but I love your honest opinions nevertheless.

[@Richo435a]

Great review Ronny. I recently looked into both the 79 & 200 as a potential replacement for my 1993 factory turbo 80 as I rolled her. The high Stressed 4 cylinder utes don't grab me. My conclusion on the 79 was basically just as your review. The 200 was very nice but the price tag with a huge weight and a lack of payload and other mods needed I ruled it out. The 79 is a good tough truck with a great engine but the leaf springs and different axle widths and the noisy 1980 interior ruled it out also. I decided to repair and improve my 1993 80. It has only done 230000ks and on Dgas and fully loaded towing a van at around 15s to 17s. It will soon be a solid beefed up 6 cylinder TD 4.2 twin cab with coil sprung solid axles with diff locks and no expensive computerized technology under the bonnet. Unfortunately good 80s are hard to find. The 79 is the best on the market now and I hope Toyota keep them coming but the fixes you mentioned would be a great step forward. Don't hold your breath.

[@pauljbusby]

You forgot about the weakest part...The Clutch....The Alternator is not an issue..Its very easy to change the Brush Pack in Situtation

[@zooltpool8204]

Reading the comments is very interesting!! Your right Ronny they are so fun to drive, i bought mine 5yrs ago and haven't looked back!!

[@newzealandearthmover4008]

My cruiser has been fitted with dynamat sound proofing in the door panels etc and makes it really quiet! Cheap and easy to do

[@jimbojones2457]

Great video mate. I'm picking up my brand new 79 GXL dual cab next month. Can't wait! Definitely the best platform for a tough off-road rig.

[@johnnumbat9782]

Thanks for the owner’s review Ronny - I do see the practicality of these and there are many in my SA regional location - I’m happy with my Hilux for both domestic and occasional touring using a tray/canopy system where I can simple lift off the touring canopy and have my ute for everyday activities. Toyota relies on it’s legacy to not feel any pressure to update safety and comfort for their guaranteed buyers market - window issues for a 60k + outlay is an insult - John in SA

[@victord5868]

Great video. Toyota Landcruiser is the only car that you depend and relies on to get you there and back. That's why mining companies, UN and NGOs all used Landcruiser for their fleets.

[@JohnFNZ3]

What a great review. Honest and direct. Thank you for taking the time for these 3 service videos.

[@martinmagro3751]

Great unbiased review. Enjoyed the fact that it is a great truck but you dont try to only show its perfection but you can show the flaws. Really helped me in my consideration for purchasing a 79 dc

[@Doraemon-wq2vs]

things to do in D4D engine.. block or blank the EGR vent direct or catch can(i prefer vent directly) 2nd fuelfilter or add a prefilter add a Unichip module(i add it on my hilux 2.5VNT with 25psi 280hp 500nm) a full racing clutch pack

[@WildTouring]

Cheers for the honest review Ronny.

[@michaelnares1217]

I don't comment often but I don't miss a single video I love watching you and 4xoverland and the expedition overland guys from the states. I'm from Calif. and there is a local guy I watch a little bit from my area called trailrecon or something close to that. but My favorite channel of all is yours. I think I'm more into the Ausi culture than my own, seriously, cause in the states its such a gun culture that for me that makes the great outdoors a little scary to be honest. So thanks for all your hard work in putting together such great videos that help me escape a little bit from the humdrum routine. P.S.I just bought a Toyota tacoma regular cab 4x4 and the weekend outings have began again.

[@shairolazhar]

Michael Nares hahaha... same with me, all channel you mentioned i subscribed plus i watch i am jake & jason koertge channel

[@tsakitx8190]

You should also check Mountain state overland too they doing realy beautiful work

[@kaimay8657]

Whilst being tall in this vehicle as a con, it made me like it even more. Being only 5"5' it means I'll be a great height in it and not struggling to see over the steering wheel😂

[@raymondcasey5747]

Thanks Ronny. Helped me decide which way to go. Really like the way you gave this a bare bones review.

[@mdbacolod]

Hi Ronny, Regarding your fuel economy, is that with the larger tires taken into consideration? Im assuming the odometer is still counting as if your vehicle has the standard tyres. Changing to a larger diameter tyre will cover a larger distance per full rotation compared to an oem tyre so the fuel economy might not be as bad as you say. Im looking to get into a 76 and appreciate your honest review.

[@Redman3354]

Just a little FYI. They keep the rear wheel track narrower to maintain the higher rear axle loading capacity. As can be seen by many aftermarket upgrades, the rear axle needs some serious beefing up to keep the load capacity with the extra width. Everyone talks about how bad it is that Toyota haven't widened the axle for the VDJ, but every 70 series has been the same. 75s and hdj7x both had narrower rear wheel track. Even leaf rear patrols have a narrower rear track for the same reason. It's all about providing an axle that can last 500k kms at full load.

[@6226superhurricane]

nearly all vehicles have a slightly narrower rear track it helps handling. except most vehicles it's 20-30mm. in the 79 it has nothing to do with carrying capacity as they could easily make a wider stronger diff housing with the same carrying capacity. what it boils down to is it's a low volume vehicle and toyota wants to spend as little as necessary.

[@craigice9635]

bullshit

[@JeepCherokeeful]

Toyota didn't want to spend the money for new rear bodywork on the 78 and 76, and a modified rear diff, the cheap bastards! They absolutely should have though.

[@AndyL940]

michael close ..I thought it helped handling also, it's about weight transfer when cornering. All my Hilux's have narrower rear track. They spent millions designing and testing them, surely it can't be just about using any old diff housing they have in stock.. I'd love to know. Cheers mate

[@owlscape6873]

What a great review!! I watched it as I was trying to make up my mind about buying an LC 76 V8 4.5L

[@marufali6205]

even in these generation the 70series landcruiser are simple made vehicle 💪 I love the 70series landcruiser but I love my gq nissan patrol more like a tank and I love my 60series landcruiser it's a reliable truck as well awsome video mate 👍

[@trentturner4175]

i think the best no bullshit review iv ever seen well done mate

[@jamesdickson3616]

Thanks Ronny you explained yourself about the vehicle very well and honest . From WA

[@ElninoSickDog]

Authentic review bud! Very informative and genuine. Thanks for making the time to share!

[@oliverallen5324]

Hopefully the 70s series comes back to America.

[@timo2905]

A great honest balanced review. you have helped alot.

[@markyg2748]

This video was ridiculously informative and well delivered, as someone looking to purchase one in the future this was great to see.

[@markcranston814]

Ronny, BTW. Both the 100k and 120k videos are worth the time to watch! crano

[@volkantayfur7400]

Hi Ronny, This is such a valuable review. I am a loyal fan of yours.

[@propertyforauction8024]

keep up the good work Ronny.

[@optionsmr2]

I love your channel and have been subbed for sometime. I do like your new series offroad videos with more stories, camping, and cooking. However I really miss your older pure offroad footage videos. Keep up the great work and content, I love forward to videos.

[@naushad911]

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[@wildbill23c]

Great video. Hit all the points someone wanting to buy one would really need to know. Sadly they're not available in the US...I'd take a more simple vehicle any day over the bloated electronics they got in vehicles now. Factory front and rear lockers are pretty uncommon at least here in the US....more commonly you find a rear limited slip if you are lucky...most people skip that because it costs more and truthfully most people at least in the US have no use for any additional traction aids, and wouldn't have any idea how to use a locker anyhow.

[@leebronx8622]

Great video. Very informative now I know what I have to do for my 2016 gxl land cruiser

[@jimmyjones2426]

Great honest video Ronny. Thanks

[@GavinGillett]

LOL the Handbrake bit !!!! Amen to that :D

[@abdullahibrahim5189]

As always, great talk and review Ronny.

[@mitchherbert4528]

Best review I've ever seen 👍

[@johndenholm1675]

Awesome work bro. Very beneficial!

[@karlsmith9522]

Absolutely awesome and very honest review 👏 good on ya Ronnie 👏

[@rollingboy553]

Best review. Greetings from Papua New Guinea, mate!

[@cuthevayo5017]

👏🏼wow super info👍🏼👍🏼

[@RyanYourMainMan]

Everyone's beat me to it, but well done Ronny. Hands down amazing review mate.

[@humbertorubi2735]

I wanted a vehicle with 3 doors, robust, reliable, capable, well built and with a ton of carácter, my first option was a short 70 series, but then the Suzuki Jimny appeared in the market and it looked to me like the Ronny Dahl cruiser had an affair in the bush with a G Wagon and bam!!! Suzuki Jimny born! I wanted the car just for fun so I’m really happy with my bonsai 70 series Jimny 🤣🤣 now this save me some money to buy an old BJ40 to make a project 👍🏻

[@dinksontour2179]

Hi Ron , Good to get honest review lots to think about ,

[@KareemAbawi]

Great video m8... Balanced unbiased and full of usable info. Thanks again.

[@thefjirnyjourney8756]

That alternator is pretty cool, excuse the pun, but never seen that type before. I need to get out more.

[@tacuazinful]

Should do a 500,000 Kms review. My CX5 has nearly 100K and runs like new. 500k is now something

[@phantim_othy571]

Doing my research and come across your video.... Thank you for you real honest approach.... Buying/building these beasts is like a architectural achievement....they are each a individual work of art. If money is holding you back then don’t go there.. If you have the money then go there and enjoy forever more🙏🙏😎 Thank you Mate for your review

[@erikaslt]

In America. If you want something like this but not diesel. Get the FZJ80. Comes with front and rear solid axles. On coils. And factory front and rear elockers. Might not tow as much as this. But it is a beast vehicle. Considering it is available in the USA

[@adzhoo]

The price tag for a 70 series is way cheaper in Middle East. Count 40KUSD for a well equipped 79 (LX but with some options making it "almost" a GXL). Petrol V6 and Diesel V8 are available. Maybe the right hand wheel conversion is what justifies (!) the premium in Australia, as well as contamination-controlled exhaust. That car is a very special one, with little compromise. I have seen and used it in Central Africa, in Egypt and now in Central America. I recently bought mine and upgraded it as an investment, planning to keep it all my life (am 46). You cannot plan such thing with any other car. Nothing compares to it.

[@gordonhudson6686]

Thanks great video I have got a 2017 one and its used for towing in NZ .some mods done and i love it ,I wish it had a auto, I might invest in one.

[@dapacman8849]

GREAT VIDEO -THX FOR THE UPDATE

[@chrisspies8123]

Yeah i know its.4 year old but what a great real world, and honest review. Unfortunately most of the stuff that should fixed from the factory hasnt been. But all pretty relevant today

[@sioux1972]

thankyou very much for that awesome honest review i think youve saved me a ton of money there were alot of things i learnt and didnt know good job thanks again

[@JT-fn4eu]

That was fucking brilliant mate 👍 the most direct and honest breakdown I’ve ever seen . I’m still getting another one though 😆😆😆

[@matejhosner1980]

Soooo nice to watch your vids. Thanks!

[@luckydubeinrc5165]

Honest review, worth to watch , tks.

[@matthewpollard8570]

I really want one of these but I'm 6'4. Is there a mod to adjust the seating height? Maybe buying a special chair?

[@interstellergaming2936]

*75 series owners weeping with envy at that fuel economy*

[@pukavita]

Good & honest review!

[@allansooncabaret5925]

thanks for your video. very helpful and your comments were very genuine.

[@rjl110919581]

THANK YOU FOR VERY DETAIL VIDEO ON YOUR WELL FIT OUT YOUR TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 79 SERIES

[@GdaySport]

Good review. I had to choose between a cruiser and a patrol. Bottom line is I could not afford the cruiser, and at 6f3inch it was bloody uncomfortable. But, I do with my patrol had that V8 turbo diesel.

[@thewhiteoxoverland]

Great stuff ronny. As you mentioned like any vehicle there are foibles and there are compromises and there are aspects to ownership that are less than ideal. And superficially it seems expensive given that it's so basic (cheap stereo, average seats, 1980s style interior, aircon not standard, harsh ride etc etc. etc) BUT........... what are you really buying? You're not paying for that stuff are you? That's what land rover discoveries are for........... You can sort that out and customize it yourself as you wish. What you're paying for is (and I know there'll be a few people who don't want to hear this) the ONLY real tough, simple , reliable proper solid axle, robust, no nonsense get the bloody job done 4x4 that is still currently for sale. The only 4x4 platform that hasn't yet "gone soft" You're also paying for extremely reliable and well proven components that are built to last..... And for that alone it's worth the money. You mention they hold their value incredibly well................ there's a very good reason for that........................

[@EJL110]

Great video and review Ronny, I wish they sold these trucks in Great Britain, or I’d love a V8 Diesel in my LR Defender! However, a basic tech means less to go wrong when you’re out in the bush! Keep up the good work 👍

[@stuartbrowning1551]

If your height is a problem the Series 78 Troopy solves the problem but the seat extension is the same as the 79.

[@jimmychong3884]

Good review! Thanks Ronny.

[@paulroos7946]

The narrow rear is to reduce wear on the rear wheel bearing and to keep the weight on the tyers itself

[@ahmedbhana8301]

Hi ronny. Thank you for the straight talk. I own a fj cruiser which i enjoy and wanted to buy a 76 or 79 seeing how much fun you have. But now i know the diesel wont do it for me. Too many mods to add on. Id rather buy a 200 and use the fj for recreation as its so capable and comfortable for offroading.

[@aevan104]

😂

[@michaelnugara1]

Thanks Ronny. Very informative as I want something to replace my defender to tour oz

[@kevinp5325]

So if my math is correct, your LandCruiser with the turbodiesel V8 can get anywhere from 14 miles/gallon to 18 miles/gallon, depending on speed and driving style. Granted that is a fully modified 4x4 with more weight and bigger tires over a stock vehicle, but still that surprises me. I believe there are 3/4 ton diesel pickups here in North America that can return similar fuel economy, if not slightly better, though those vehicles have gearing and tire sizes that are optimized for highway efficiency.

[@linussam3649]

Thanks, Lots of information on Toyota 79 series.

[@BorisEkner]

The handbrake; Yup, after I watched Top Gear (Clarkson, Hammond, & May) trying to destroy a Hilux I bought one just for the fun of owning one. - Yup, the handbrake was always an issue before the annual MOT! 😂

[@lucasannio9320]

I love watching a video of a guy talking up his car .

[@007Knightjp]

Money no object, probably would get a Toyota Tundra with a great diesel engine conversion. Certainly would be heaps better in terms of comfort and space in the cab. I think that a good Ram 1500 EcoDiesel is a nice starter as well. But if size is an issue, then a Toyota Tacoma would be a great choice. It will be heaps more comfortable than the 79 series; especially for a 6ft guy.

[@stuarth43]

Agricultural not as cheap to run as a horse n cart, good god you have to slump to see out, broken axles, well most 4'bs cured that failure 30 years back, Towing a 3800kg lathe Sydney. Buderim, used 13 l/100 disco 4 I think the brmm brmm v8 sound swayed your senses when you bought this truck but you are straight up, honest, thanks for telling it how it is Mr

[@RedesCat]

as a 105 series owner i second on that handbrake comment lol

[@newis7548]

If you think the Land Cruiser is bad then you have never been in a Hummer H3. My dad always forgets to release the bake and drives off with it on.

[@bananasusyd]

Great honest review!

[@wgsmcw2012]

Beautiful looking 4X4!

[@cathymcfallan2071]

hey ronny put some portals under it go to marks 4x4 adaptors they have a kit for them it makes it a go anywhere truck it fixes track width and hand brake problems its the ultimate way to go mate they also do a 6 speed auto for better fuel consumption have an awesome day bro

[@JeremyPetho]

Not a cheap exercise, portals are $20,000 and 6 speed conversion is $20,000.

[@bobbyt4701]

Ronny it's just like our truck race is over here in the states as long as people keep buying it they're never going to fix it

[@baecchi4153]

you guys are lucky.. in my part of the world lc70 series are not available .. but our hilux 3.0 is more than enough for our roads ..

[@rogercole9942]

Ronny you're a legend. You inspired me to get rid of my new ranger and move to a 76. Had it for a few years. Misses and I love it very much. Stupid question... I extended the diff breathers some time ago but I could not see where the locker breathers connect. Do you (or any viewers) have any clues/photos? Cheers, Rog

[@Ronny_Dahl]

They come straight off the locker motor. Follow the rubber hose and you will find the breather.

[@TheJohnChocolate]

That TOYO handbrake, haha #Truth!

[@michaelpatosa]

I'll travel the world with the 79 Cruiser

[@RD11RT]

Love the 79 and have had one myself so do speak from experience. What I couldn’t easily fix and still can’t figure out though is how people deal with these things on a long trip. I wish there was a fix as I love em! I do only country kms 800+ a week... would be great to know how to make it a nice place to smash out the kms on a big trip. I don’t know what it is, but very fatiguing and a draining vehicle to drive. Do you find this Ronny and have you done anything to help? Things that come to mind are sound deadening to quiet it down. Lower RPM on the new ones has helped but still felt the same experience overall when I drove one the other day again. Mate with v8 troopy says exact same...

[@fadjarroosdianto6079]

Never thought that its back seat would be that awful. But over all it's awesome vehicle.

[@Reidypie123]

what i will say is that there is no car out there that "holds its value really well". every car depreciates. yes these cars may go for 60k second hand, but think about how much you spent on it new. e.g. a new car worth 20k may sell second hand for 12k. another new car worth 50k might sell for 35k second hand. at the end of the day a brand new 79 series worth 80k then sells second hand for 60k which hasnt "held its value" like people say, it just cost more to buy, therefore sells for a high price second hand.