Summit Adds Front 3rd Function to Rear Hydraulic Kit + Welding Project

[@Kcolby47]

Tim, you are a real asset to the compact tractor community, and these solutions offer a great deal of versatility and usability for the compact tractor owner. Great work! Blessings.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the kind words, Kenton!

[@philsmock4943]

Tim, this was a great video. I already had Deere install the 3rd function hydraulic on my 1025R when I got the grapple. Yep, it was not cheap. Your welding looked pretty good to me. And just an added note with Kevin's HydrosPlus extra flow pumps. You knowing that you probably would not install a HydrosPlus pump on your 1025R and you have your reasons. You still spent time and money to drive from Indiana to Arkansas just so your subscribers and viewers could see what is available for us sub-compact tractor owners. To me...that shows just how committed you are to this channel. I want to say "thank you Tim for making this channel as good as you can."

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the kind words, Phil. Appreciate the friendship we are developing!

[@timziegler9358]

Tim, I want to take this opportunity to thank you and your wife for the wonderful videos that you have produced. You have an easy and understandable way in your presentations that make them enjoyable and instructive. I have learned a great deal! God bless you and your wife; take care Tim.

[@mitchp350]

Tim I have been watching your videos for a few years now, and I must admit when I first starting watching, I said to myself, he is going to try and use an over grown lawn mower, as a tractor to do work. I can tell you over the last few years, I have had to eat those words, as Johnny 1 has more than pulled it's weight a number of times. I have an old David Brown 990 with a loader 58 HP, and I am amazed at how well it works for being a 1967 and ridden hard and abused for the majority of it's life. As with many older tractors it was replaced by a modern tractor, and although still used, it was fixed with bubble gum, and duct tape, leaks here and there, and for the most part, needed a lot of little fixes to bring it back from the brink. I have been thinking hard about a new tractor, and thinking I should get something over the 60hp range, as here there is no sales tax (15%) if it is rated for 60hp or more on the PTO. But as you can guess when you take that jump from 50ish to the larger tractors there is a $15000 increase in the sticker. After watching your channel I must admit I really do not have a use for a tractor that large, and if I was honest I would have to admit Johnny 1 is doing mostly everything I need to do, except maybe the loader lift capacity. The other option is to buy a gently used tractor 10-15 years old, which do come along quite often, anywhere from the 300-2000 hour range. So in closing I will say, you are a great asset to the tractor world, and bring great knowledge to others through your videos, keep up the good work.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks Mitch!

[@wickedcoyote271]

I would use “T” fittings and couplings instead of elbows at the valve block so you can still use the valve as a rear remote. Nice to see summit is continuing to help the sub-compacts.

[@rustycrone195]

I was thinking the same thing. Should put some ball valves in so if you have a attachment on the loader that uses the 3rd function you can turn it off and on so it sends the oil to the front or rear

[@wickedcoyote271]

@@rustycrone195 you would only need an additional valve if you had an attachment connected on both the front and rear. If I was doing that, id just have a valve with quick connects that I could snap in-line with the rear lines. A T fitting with rear facing female quick connects, would allow you to use the remote as either front third function or rear function. If you look at the X7 series, this is how the same valve operates the mower deck/3pt, and a front remote.

[@coustix47]

I literally just bought this kit last night and can't wait for it to arrive. Thank you for continuing to improve on your already great ideas!

[@andrewanderson1436]

This was an excellent excellent video. I feel it really opens the door more for these tractors to be much more capable than we already know.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks! I agree, and this is why we worked so hard to design it.

[@MuhaloTube]

Nice to see new retail/commercial solutions with hydraulics.

[@stewmeat30]

is it possible to have one of the 4 blocks just a power beyond ( no valve or un switched)? For an implement with its own controls

[@curtwhite876]

The improved hydraulic system looks great. And based on many of the comments, it looks like folks have used it on other brands with great success. I look forward to seeing the prototype box blade, with all those hydraulic hoses, it looks really versatile and easy to get a lot of work done fast. Really though, that would have made a great additional episode. I hope folks that might be interested in tackling a similar project are able to find it.

[@johnpierce6025]

I love your videos they are very detailed I recently bought a Yanmar SA325 but it did not come with the 3rd function or rear remotes is there a kit for a yanmar SA series with hoses

[@TractorTimewithTim]

There is a ‘universal’ kit which should work fine.

[@nealtubbs9608]

Great video Tim. You have great mechanical and design skills! Your weld looked perfect!!

[@CaptainKleeman]

You think this would work for an older 755?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, it will work. You’ll need a Power Beyond. I saw that Mike had a remote valve on his 755, so I think you guys already know how to get the Power Beyond plumbed. This kit plugs into the power beyond. That is the only interface to the hydraulic system. Other than that, you need only battery connection. Very simple. We could work on it together here if you want :-)

[@todd9453]

This was a great video Tim. Coupled with a new video "Choosing the right hydraulics" you did a couple of days ago all of my questions are answered. I normally like to go with oem solutions because the fit & finish is usually better then aftermarket. However I will be ordering a 1025R with a Mauser cab and thanks to you I will get the complete "ultimate" hydraulic solution from Summit....4 spool rear hydraulic with the Summit 3rd function and Summit Power Beyond kit. The only thing I wouldn't get (that you do with the oem 3rd function) is steel lines on the loader and that's ok. The complete Summit package looks pretty nice. I will just have to figure out how to mount it on the back with a Mauser cab but that shouldn't be to difficult. Thanks again.

[@gclaytony]

Tim, with all the add-ons, do you feel the HydroPlus pump upgrade is needed?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

HydrosPlus is great with backhoe, or with limbsaw

[@BitCounter]

I pulled the trigger and placed an order. 4 port. I had built a two spool but it had a large footprint and does not fit as well as it did in my mind.

[@n1cholas.w]

Man part of me wishes I waited, but I needed a grapple for a few jobs and couldn’t wait for this kit. I ended up routing hoses under the tractor with quick couplers connected to some hoses on the loader. It works great, but I might pick up a joystick controller just to make it easier to use and then I plan on moving the original switch block somewhere else, as I’ve found it’s in the way for most of the jobs I do. I really appreciate your work on this kit, you have made my tractor more useful for more jobs!

[@Drewsadventures00]

What a nice kit. And Tim the Deere 3rd function was not that bad to add I had 738 for mine love it. I’m so ready for my 2038r

[@williamcoffman7149]

just got my 1025r tractor delivered 2 days ago and took your advise and had the dealership install the 3rd function kit for the front and the power beyond hose kit in the rear....id got the front forks from john deere/ frontier AP10F, but also got the John Deere PG11 pallet fork grapple, but i never hear anyone talk about this grapple....could you do so in a future episode Tim??

[@jimmygoines458]

I'm waiting on the AP10F and PG11 pallet fork grapple also. I will post back when I can use them. I expect good results.

[@williamcoffman7149]

Jimmy, im curious to know how well it will work in real time

[@shawnemerson671]

I went looking for one of these kits for the rear. Summit responded that none of their kits are designed for cab tractors... Any suggestions. I have a 3046r with a front dungeon already. Need to connect my deck to one in back with one or two spare for future implements

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Their kits will work on cab tractors, but they do not have a specific mounting bracket for the cab. If you can get a bracket made locally, the kit will work.

[@shawnemerson671]

@@TractorTimewithTim thank you

[@chrisreddick36]

Oh my the pull behind box blade that’s sweet and of course the summit hydraulics are great too thanks Tim for the great information.

[@wizzlefits]

The price and simple installation of the Ultimate Kit is VERY attractive! Looks like I might have to cash in my scrap pile. ;)

[@rjmerritt6]

Is this kit still available? Could not find it on Summits website. Thanks

[@TractorTimewithTim]

summit-hydraulics.com/ttwt

[@todd93]

I have a question... I bought a MF 1725MB earlier this year... It's a fine machine, yes, it has a backhoe! I am interested in different implements for it, one being a hydraulic top link, the other a small offset flail mower... The mower will run off the PTO, but hydraulics needed for the cylinders to swing, and operate the offset... My tractor does NOT have a 3rd function kit for the front... Can you guide me through what I need to make my desired setup work? Thanks

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good news! Your backhoe makes it is! Choose the universal “FR4” kit from summit. It will have front and rear setup with 4 valves. It will plug into your PB. I don’t know exact part number.

[@todd93]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thank you!

[@michaelkraeh4697]

Good video Tim. I have a question I have a Gen 2 2032r with the factory rear scvs like your 2038r will that 3rd function add on kit work with them if i use 1/2 quick connectors instead of attaching it to the PB? thanks

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The only way it would work is if you tied the lever down on the remote …to keep oil flowing all of the time. I do not recommend it.

[@MattFoushee]

God bless you guys. Hope you're well this morning.

[@KirtH27]

I am looking at upgrading to a one series. Is there any advantage of going with the deere dealer installed 3 rd function over the Summit version? Other than making your wallet lighter? 1700.00 from the quote i got

[@TractorTimewithTim]

If you need rear hydraulics along with your front 3rd function, this Summit kit is DEFINITELY the way to go. Get the power beyond from Deere and connect it all up. If you don’t need rear hydraulics, the Deere solution is a bit cleaner, but Summit or Artillian diverters work just as well.

[@KirtH27]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thank you

[@scruffy4647]

As a noobie guy. For the switch location for the hydraulic top link, would putting the switch on the up/down control arm for the 3 pt be more user friendly?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

You have choice of joystick or switch box.

[@GM-xw9ni]

Thanks for the video. I think you mention if you have already installed the rear multiplier but I've done the opposite and just added the Summit 3rd Function Diverter kit but am interested in adding the Rear Multiplier (4) for TNT, etc. later....so just to clarify... ideally would I need to buy the Rear Multiplier kit and then the new joystick with 2 switches and then a 2 switch box? Thanks

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I think you should call summit to be sure what you need. One thing is certain, you need Power Beyond kit

[@GM-xw9ni]

@@TractorTimewithTim Ok thanks I will give them a call once that i'm ready. Yeah I have power beyond. I was just curious on whether it would be a better option to replace the 1 switch joystick that i have now with the 2 switch (opposed to keeping my current joystick and just using the 4 switch box). Thanks Tim for the videos and response! I've learned a ton from your videos

[@ritterjon]

💥 You’re like Bill Ny the science guy of tractor hydraulics. The tractor community appreciates your expertise! *Keep on tractoring!* 😁👍

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We need to get this summit kit on your BX!

[@aweisbrodt5627]

Hi Tim, I just ordered the 3 valve rear remote kit with the third function kit included for my 1025r. I’m not sure if you are aware but they have changed the coupler bracket that you show in the picture for this video. It no longer mounts on the tractor frame, and now they have it mounting to the loader which means your hoses are left dangling out of the tractor when you separate the tractor from the loader. Far from ideal, and they are telling me I can’t get the bracket in this video. Thanks for all the great content. I’m learning a lot from your channel.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Really? Can you post photos at tractoruniverse.com?

[@aweisbrodt5627]

Thanks Tim, I just posted this with a few pictures on tractor universe in the John Deere forum.

[@scott9602]

Great videos, I watched multiple times getting ideas. Couple questions, I have a 2000 John Deere 4100, I'd like to add 3rd function hydraulic, do you recommend Artillian or Summit, I see you've worked with both. Do I need a power beyond kit first ? I would like to be able to run a hydraulic dump trailer also sometimes in the rear. Thanks for any help or suggestions and info.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Given your requirements…front AND rear hydraulics, I recommend the summit rear plus 3rd function kit at summit-hydraulics.com/ttwt You will need power beyond to connect this kit.

[@scottbostelman224]

Tim, I was just getting ready to buy a diverter kit for a grapple I plan on buying later this year. Would you recommend the 3rd front SCV over the diverter? I do not have power beyond and in fact I have the JD rear SCV kit (for dump wagon and top link) which I believe is NOT compatible with the power beyond. So I would have to remove that (which was about $600 I think) and get this kit and the power beyond. Is all that worth it to have the front SCV over just the diverter when using the grapple? Thanks.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No, not worth it. Get a simple diverter.

[@raymonddevore9920]

Tim can I use this on my Kubota BX23S ? I watch most all of you vids, love the content keep up the good job.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, it should work on a bx23s. Likely different couplers required for PB connection, but that is an easy switch.

[@raymonddevore9920]

@@TractorTimewithTim thank you Tim

[@WichhartAcres]

sweet!! Welding projects are my fave right now! Thanks for posting!

[@parkerscherf7560]

Is there a way to integrate the joystick to the JD OEM 3rd function controls?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No, but summit offers a replacement handle.

[@michaelgagne4530]

Thank you for fixing my access issue to tractoruniverse, Tim, and I'm sorry I had to come back to The channel to ask. Maybe an easier contact method? Mahalo from Maui Hawaii.

[@kennyvalentine8308]

Tim I’ve got a 3039r with backhoe ordered ( want be here till January ☹️) I intend to put the summit hydraulic kit with third function on it.do you think this kit will work? Love ❤️ your show Learned a lot. Thank you.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes.

[@kennyvalentine8308]

@@TractorTimewithTim 🙏

[@brolarisatvs3322]

Hey Tim, I love the idea of the FR4-JD1, my question is how can I adapt this system to work for my thumb on my backhoe as well as the way it is already setup to have a convenient switch at the backhoe controls?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Easy! Get a 2 button joystick from summit. Unplug the ‘front’ switch box or joystick from one scv. …plug in rear joystick when the backhoe is attached. Run hoses from the thumb to the same scv

[@norton2742]

Very practical solution, I like it 👍

[@peterflippinpan]

Nice Video Tim :) . Noob question, please excuse my lack of knowledge. With this kit, will I need to buy a splitter for the front in order to use 2 grapples from Artillian? I didn't see a splitter on Summit site and wonder if the Artillian splitter will work with the Summit system. Thanks again Tim

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes. You’ll need the splitter and short extension hoses for the Artillian grapple. Good point!

[@johngianopoulos6668]

Hi Tim, Thanks for this video and the earlier video on the Summit multiplier. After some thought the Summit multiplier installation, I thought of a copule of questions. I have a 2014 1025r with a 260 backhoe, so I don't have a separate seat for the backhoe, my tractor seat spins 180 degrees when I am using the backhoe attachment. So my questions would be can the Summit multiplier be mounted on right hand side of the rops, and will there be clearance for the seat on the older 1025r to still spin around?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

summit kit can be mounted on either side. Yes, I think you will still have room to spin the seat around. Been a few years since I had the spinny seat, but I don't think the summit kit would get in the way of it.

[@gianopou10]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks for the reply Tim!

[@billyburke3971]

I have a 1025 r with a back hole. Can I use the summit 3r function

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The best option for you is the FRx-JD1 kit from Summit. It provides front AND rear hydraulics all in one kit. You can plug your backhoe lines right into it. No hydraulic change on your tractor at all. When the backhoe is attached, you can connect it in line with the kit as well. summit-hydraulics.com/product/rear-hydraulic-valve-kit-with-front-third-function-for-john-deere-1-2-series-tractors-two-spool-three-spool-four-spool/ You can get 2, 3, or 4 spools. One of those spools goes to the front, the remaining ones are available to the rear. I would recommend 2 or 3 spools total.

[@harryiv6107]

I am excited for more on that box blade!!

[@earlyriser8998]

this is a good solution for 3rd function

[@OldGuyGolf]

I have a 2 remotes on the back of my 2038R. Could I just run hydraulic hoses from the back all the way to the 3rd function in the front and use my lever to control?

[@adamaho7816]

You could, but you would either have to take your hand off the loader joystick to operate the grapple, or reach over with your left handle to operate it, taking it off the steering wheel. If your coordination is like mine and your brain can only handle one function at a time anyway, it wouldn't be terrible. However, if you get good at using the tractor/loader/grapple, you can do everything in one nice smooth motion. That would be much more challenging having to use a different lever to run the grapple.

[@rcwayt4020]

Now this solution is somethin I can get behind! So if your starting from scratch. Do you need that rear scv and 3rd function kit and the power beyond?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I tried to explain, but may have failed. You only need one kit (the new one WITH 3rd function from summit.). Then yes, you need power beyond.

[@rcwayt4020]

@@TractorTimewithTim ok that's what I thought but wasn't sure! I definitely like this over oem 3rd function because you can have a rear remote as well. Does this affect your loader operation at all while using a grapple for instance?

[@jessiec7637]

Tim, first off I think I have watched all your videos. Great site for us new tractor guys. I recently bought the summit kit with 3rd function. Is there a video that shows the actual routing of the hoses through the frame to the loader connection?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I do not have a video showing the specifics. I'm sure there are many ways. Just try to stay clear of moving parts. zip ties are your friend. Oh, and thanks for being a loyal viewer!

[@michaelmclaughlin189]

Now that Summit is available, would you purchase their 3rd function diverted valve over artillian? It’s quite a difference in price but is the quality or fitment better ? I’m torn…

[@TractorTimewithTim]

If you have no need for rear hydraulics and have no power beyond, go with Artillian. If you think you might need rear hydraulics, then it is worth it to get power beyond and the summit kit.

[@michaelmclaughlin189]

@@TractorTimewithTim thanks that does help…although there is always a need for more hydraulics haha🤷🏻‍♂️

[@biancaw.5987]

Tim, another great video and another great product! I would like to find a top and tilt kit for my 1025R. Are you working on one of those--or can you point me in a good direction? Thank you!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

GreenPartStore.com/ttwt. Matching hose kit at DiscountHydralicHose.com/ttwt. Use code ttwt both places for a discount

[@biancaw.5987]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks. FYI, there is no top and tilt kit on your page at the Green Parts Store. GPS does carry three different TNT kits, but the descriptions on the website do not identify which model tractors they fit.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@biancaw.5987 my mistake! So many sites foe me to keep in my head. Sorry. ShopGreenDealer.com/ttwt Again, sorry.

[@biancaw.5987]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks, but you don't have a top and tilt kit for the 1025R on that page, either. You do have a hydraulic top link. But not a top and tilt. ;-)

[@richardstevens3461]

Great Job Tim!

[@acdii]

Hey Tim, is there hay equipment that can be run with a Kubota B2410? I have 3 1/2 acres I will convert to hay from horse pasture.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We did a series on small hay equipment last summer. Check it out.

[@acdii]

@@TractorTimewithTim I saw the round baler, and rake, but was wondering if you came across a square baler and disk or drum mower that can work with my cut.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I showed a sickle bar mower which works very well.

[@MysteryValleyRanch]

I think another good option for the switch block is a kit with TWO of the joystick controls. One with two controls for the front loader like you have and the same type of controller for the three point lift control. That way if you’re using the extra hydraulics for a hydraulic top link or side arm link you can control an implement like a box blade with your hand in one place and it’ll give you control of hight, angle, and pitch.

[@timheyboer4786]

You had me concerned that I might "need" to buy something more. I installed the old 4 valve kit on my Kubota b2910. The only thing I had to do is buy different bolts.

[@jeffnelson7885]

I already did this when I installed my summit kit. Only difference is I left the rear quick connects in case I ever need them

[@davidbernstein4812]

Your solutions have solutions. That’s a lot of solutions

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yea, I think I like the word ‘solution’ a bit too well. Sorry.

[@joebrier3213]

Would this hydraulic kit work for a Kubota B2650?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, just get a power beyond kit…make sure you have matching couplers, then simply plug it in and go!

[@jean-philippegagnon9189]

Nice kit Tim! Is there any way to get hard lines instead of hoses for the loader part? Or maybe include it as an option in the future.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

If you need hardlines, I would suggest going with the Deere 3rd function. We will not be including hardlines.

[@BG-vq9fd]

Is that a new Artillion grapple on the pallet?

[@DaleRyanLeckie]

Summit doesn’t explicitly say this works for the 3 series…but, if the 3025e has power beyond installed…this should work, right? Now, maybe summit didn’t list the series 3 because it’s less necessary. From what I can tell, this is the best solution for the 3025e, for RR or TF. Great video! Thanks

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, should work with the 3025e. You might find a couple of issues. 1) hose lengths might not be perfect. 2) The bracket for the front (mid) couplers may not be a perfect fit.

[@DaleRyanLeckie]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks! Great info. Cheers

[@thomasrohrer6420]

as AVE says..... a welder and paint make me the welder I ain't. Any weld that works is a weld that works. great job Tim

[@thomasrohrer6420]

*a grinder and paint.

[@sethhuus]

Is there a way you can have the switch on the joystick and the valve box one connected?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Why would you need?

[@sethhuus]

@@TractorTimewithTim I guess so when you are doing stuff behind you you can see the switch better. But I guess you’ve got a point.

[@ColtonLloyd]

Hi Tim I have a Massey Ferguson sub compact tractor and I was wondering if you could do a Massey Ferguson GC Series vs John Deere 1 series Thanks.

[@gsracing38]

Any idea if they'll developed this same kit for the Kubota people? Specifically the L2501.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

It will work. Get a power beyond kit. You may need to change couplers to connect to PB, but that is trivial.

[@brynnrogers5081]

Would there be a differently sized kit for my 50hp 4700? or would this be fine for it?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Do you know max hydraulic flow (gallons per minute) for your machine?

[@brynnrogers5081]

@@TractorTimewithTim It has 9.9 GPM for the hydraulics

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We made need larger kit for this much flow. At least some larger hoses. Do you have power beyond?

[@brynnrogers5081]

@@TractorTimewithTim power beyond for the backhoe. can I still have power beyond after the new manifold?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, you connect them ‘in series’ when the backhoe is attached.

[@billweaver3114]

Tim great video always find your videos informative been watching for cople years now got a question about the jd 1025r dose it have flot on the loader one of my friends said it didn't if memory serves me right it dose I believe I've seen you talk about it in one of your videos but can't remember ??

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, it has float on the loader.

[@billweaver3114]

Next question if my friend is supposedly putting it in the float position why would the front come off the ground if he's in float once again love your videos watch them and feel like I'm learning a lot keep it up God bless you and your family hope to meet you in person someday I have a sister that lives in mucie area and she pastors a church there

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good question. I should do a video on that. When pushing forward, the resistance of the load will often make the loader ‘push down’ which raises the front tires. Float means ‘take the path of least resistance, not ‘gracefully float along the surface’. I hope that helps.

[@billweaver3114]

Thanks that dose help me understand more keep it up love your videos and hope to meet you some time driving truck it's hard seems I'm always on the road and then home for a bit and back out and one of these days I might get the finance committee to let me get a tractor to have fun with God bless you and your family looking forward to seeing your videos gald I could help you with an idea for one stay safe and keep it up

[@ERICMB24MF37U24F39]

Nice 3rd and 4th function for the FEL. Funny you have a prototype pull type box blade.. we only have a pull type box blade and no normal box blade in the Netherlands...

[@scottthornton3427]

Thanks!

[@robbie4682]

Have you given any consideration to enabling a continuous flow mode for the third function on the loader (i.e. for a cutter) with the valve kit?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Have not considered.

[@robbie4682]

I was thinking something along the lines of, the solenoid on the return side could hold open to act as a case return line. You might have to up-size the return line to reduce friction.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Or just get a Power Beyond.

[@scottsoper]

Lets see, if we take the time warp back 40 years keeping present day choices I needed JD 1023R with ALL the the gizmos added: Front snow blower, tiller, loader, forks, stump grinder, back hoe with thumb, wood chipper, grapple, chain saw on a stick... If I remember the JD 1023R needs more hydraulic flow for that. I wonder if one could put a regular electric battery chain saw up there??? and many more tools. (and do not forget the RimGuard) Also a Ventrac with the MA900 boom mower, MS720 finish mower, the flex deck, large area mower, tough cut, collection system, leaf plow, turbine blower, snow blower, power bucket and dual tires. 48" XLT Country Clipper with joystick steering, Toro 5910 (AC in the cab and cuts 16 foot of grass at a time) eXmark Commercial 30 and other smaller things. I would stay with my junk trucks because they are cost effective: the job is mowing most of the time, not showing off fancy 4X4s I see some using these days. My new JD mowers were 20 times or more the value of my rusty trucks. I would however get a small dump truck and dump trailer. That is a good start on the list! I knew something was missing! Girillo G110 with rotary plow, 22 inch tiller, Caravaggi stump grinder, Berta 28" snow blower and 33 Zanon mower and possible other tools for getting in small areas and my own garden at the time. That is a good start anyway!! Clearly I needed to mow grass, however being able to clean up a yard that was a disaster with the JD 1023R would of been a vary big help! Cleaning up a nasty yard often got me a lawn mowing costumer.... I also would of been able to help more effectively making gardens for people with the 1023R and the G110 with rotary plow. I would keep my mowing on the other machines and use the 1023R to do all the odd jobs. Mowing takes up a lot of hours so I would want to keep the mowing off the 1023R because I would have a vary big investment in tools to do other things. In the winter I would of made a team: 1023R with front blower, The Original Tractor Cab, and weights on back but tow a small wagon with the G110 and snow blower on it for the side walks and I would have to shop for a small snow blower, possibly a Toro power shovel. I have done most of the driveways and the whole street sometimes so I could come in with a wagon to have some additional tools nearby. Snow plow trucks just had no place to push the snow. The blower just dumps it in the middle of the lawn in a few minutes resulting in less things messed up in the lawn.

[@jjacres129]

Remember on the farm we had keepers on the tractor to

[@myrandabrown]

We just purchased a new 1025r. We wanted them to add power beyond and third function. We were told we could only do one and not both. We went with power beyond. Hopefully we made the right choice.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

That is incorrect. The PB kit has the additional line required to allow 3rd function kit. Your dealer is wrong. My 2019 1025r has both installed.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Having said that…now you can buy the summit hydraulics frk-jd1 which uses to power beyond to support both front and rear hydraulics! …for less money than the Deere 3rd function Kit. Use code ttwt for 5% off. summit-hydraulics.com/ttwt

[@kirkbrinkley6990]

Since I brought my tractor to your house for the phase 1 of this installation, maybe you need to come to my house for phase 2 with this add on? 😉 Makes sense to me!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Hmm. Maybe so!

[@jimbob3201]

Another awesome video , ty Tim ,

[@barkleygentry2504]

Good info, Tim!

[@mross6363]

Will the 4 valve kit adapt to a 955?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

It should. You need a power beyond, which is definitely possible since the 955 supports a backhoe. Once you have a power beyond, just plug it in, and find electrical power. That is all there is to it!

[@SSouthcombe]

Next improvement is to find a weather resistant joystick handle with more functions. Would like to see all four electro-valves controlled from the joystick. Possibly a four-way coolie hat in addition to the four buttons.

[@justingoedel47]

When you got out the grinder n welder you made my heart skip a beat.... this was a great video I really enjoy seeing n hearing about how you work with the big partners you have

[@HanginwithHarv]

Now that you have the third function kit, this is looking more appealing for my needs. The one question I have is given the placement of the rear hydraulics, have you noticed any problems getting off and on the backhoe? Perhaps being a bit more robust in the midsection than you I am concerned they might be in the way. Can you mount both the hydraulic lines and the switch arm on the same side of the tractor? Oh and if you need a volunteer tractor to install one of these on, I would be happy to offer my Lil’ Jack as a test subject. At my expense of course 😬

[@TractorTimewithTim]

You could mount the spools on the right side. As it is, yes, it hinders backhoe access from the left side.

[@peterflippinpan]

@@TractorTimewithTim I really appreciate your honesty!! Perhaps a video for us "more robust in the midsection" on best way to modify this system? Maybe a choice of kits in the near future? I love my new 2025R and I blame you for my newly empty wallet. :P Thanks Tim for all the work you do to share the information you give us.

[@georgelee7259]

Do they have that kit for Kubota 2689

[@georgelee7259]

2680

[@TractorTimewithTim]

This one should work if you add a power beyond kit. You will need 1/2” ISO 5675 ag couplers on the power beyond.

[@allysondavenport7918]

will this work on a 3 series john deer? this is exactly what im looking for!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes. You need power beyond kit…then this will work.

[@jimmcknight3021]

What's your opinion on the ease of working the joystick between the John Deere solution and the summit solution for a third function? You always shoot straight with your audience so I wanted to see what you thought.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I think almost no difference. Summit has two buttons one for up and one for down, where Deere has a rocker switch. Doubt it will be any difference. I do not know about comfort in the hand, as I have not worked with the summit joystick handle yet. I will be using the summit kit on my next 1025r if that helps :-)

[@jimmcknight3021]

@@TractorTimewithTim I was wondering if you would be getting another 1025R soon since you do so much work with it.

[@adamaho7816]

One thing I noted on my Summit kit for the joystick handle - you can rotate the switch plate 90 degrees (they provide good instructions on how to do so). That means with the 4-button switch you can have the LEFT 2 buttons run a function, or rotate it and have the TOP 2 buttons control a function instead. That way, you can somewhat customize how the feel is and which fingers do what.

[@lifeoutdoorseveryday1682]

Any chance to increase the size to a 6 spool block?!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Wow! Really need 6 spools?

[@dane7589]

Summit needs to make a some changes to the rear hydro block bracket for the 2000 series. The base is a little wider.

[@toddsmith3002]

Tim, maybe you can talk to Sumitt to create a Kit that allows you to use a manual Throw A/B valve placed on to the diverter valve to let me choose weather the trigger sends fluid to the front or say a hydraulic Top Link. A/B valve is already sold by Summitt . It would just take a way to neatly mount the valve to the diverter body with some fittings.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Get the 4 valve kit. Use one for front, one for top link, and still have two left. No need for an additional a/b valve

[@toddsmith3002]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks but I already have the diverter kit and love it. And a 2 into 4 A/B is only $180.00 just need some fittings to neatly connect the Grapple output of the diverter where it goes to an A/B and then I can operate the Grapple or a Hydraulic Top Link with just the throw of a lever. with the top link seldom used it could remain mostly set up for the Grapple with the pull of the trigger

[@robjohnson2994]

Tim will this work with a new 2038r? Great video!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes. Get a power beyond kit, and then it will plug right in!

[@tomembt4625]

I was wondering this as well. Hose lengths are good? Think I might do this instead of the OEM option. Very nice!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I cannot be sure about hose lengths, but I think they will work fine.

[@tomembt4625]

Thanks!

[@brianhillis3701]

Tim promoting a box blade? Have to see that one.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Promoting may be too strong of a term :-)

[@cwolf8841]

tameit is the spelling. Only Boltonhooks search worked.

[@craigflatley7370]

👍

[@mikegraziano1562]

If you haven't already put screw on UV filters on your cameras, do so, they'll take all the scratches and in this case splatters and only cost a few bucks for the "insurance". I get mine at www.bhphotovideo.com. Usually on the front of the lens it'll tell you what mm size you need. I also carry an extra in my bag so if I'm in the middle of a shoot and the 1st one gets trashed I can quickly replace it. Hope this helps someone from having to replace their lens at thousands of $$$.

[@bubbafatt]

I honestly do not know why anyone would dislike the video.. Must be Mahindra owners...

[@TractorTimewithTim]

This would work EVEN ON MAHINDRAS :-)

[@Shane_O.5158]

spatter guard Tim, it a spray that helps keep weld spatter ( hot metal spitting ) off of metal ( or possably go pro's lenses ) from sticking on stuff you don't want it on.

[@2naturesownplace]

@Tim, lil worried brother, you seem to be getting winded a lot in the video. You doing ok?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Doin fine. First, I had just lifted the heavy tongue on that box blade and moved it around before shooting the scene. Second, this was a new mic in the last part of the video...was just trying it out. It seems QUITE sensitive. I'm gonna have to either move it away from my mouth, or turn it down a little :-) If you notice, the mic is right by my mouth...so you are indeed catching every breath!

[@1905934]

I didn't realize Tim Conway reviews tractors? You haft to admit you look a lot like Tim Conway

[@danielsharon524]

You're the welder. You're using a welding machine:). I know, everyone calls it (& you) a welder. Problem w/MIG is that yes, they can look beautiful but have poor penetration. Slick setup on the hydraulics.

[@scottsoper]

I had not considered that cameras would get ruined before another video of yours and you mentioned it. I do not know anything about these cameras. My guess is that the lens is the most expensive part and so getting a wield spot on it means a new camera not a new lens. Your cameras go into all kinds of dangerous places for a camera! You must have quite a large camera budget!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We destroy stuff all the time. In this case, the latest GoPro 9 has removable replaceable lens cover. So, only $40! But you are right. We go through thousands of dollars in camera equipment. Kinda frustrating, but part of the job. We appreciate viewers support to make this possible.

[@scottsoper]

@@TractorTimewithTim That lens cover saved the day!

[@jerrybrock5335]

Sounds like you might be out of breath. Hope you're feeling ok

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Over sensitive mic, and I had just lifted and moved the pull type box blade by hand. Very heavy.

[@jerrybrock5335]

@@TractorTimewithTim thanks for the answer. Just remembering when you had your hart troubles. Glad to hear. Stay healthy my friend.

[@cameronchisler3424]

Can you look into making a Pedal switch that I could hook the backhoe thumb up to and us the Summit kit ?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Could use the joystick switch I would think.

[@msilliphant]

y in the hell dont tractors come with option