Trading Is NOT A Zero Sum Game || Why NO To Trading E02

Is Trading a Zero Sum Game? If not, how?
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#TradingPsychology

[@mahendranathview2688]

I don't known english but pr sundar english very easy I understanding ur great teacher sir

[@railwaybaba]

Me too

[@sasirekha6293]

Yes. Sir can speak 6 languages in tamil!! 😂😂😂😂

[@AyappanRadhakrishnan]

Yes ans your said 💯% correct 👍 👍 👍

[@janarthanannatarajan983]

By profession he is teacher

[@gj37rameshahirvlogs]

i learn English and treding thank you sir,

[@clbiju]

Never found a person who is so transparent and genuine. God bless you Sir, love and greetings from Kerala.

[@RamKrishna-ej1fm]

He is like a vijay kedia..but his game is 20..20 not test match..

[@nikhilkachhawaha]

@@RamKrishna-ej1fm haha

[@rajendrashirsath146]

Excellent sir Giving true and valuable information without hiding anything. Keep it up sir. Always waiting for your video.

[@starstocks1390]

@@RamKrishna-ej1fm hi good to remind vijay kedia...very nice person...where is he now?

[@abidsainul6485]

Athishaktham

[@MixMate22]

Google says:- the success rate of IIT jee - 0.92% and the success rate of traders in the Indian stock market - 3.5% to 4.5%

[@nazer240132]

I am learning english with your talks Mostly like this words "hi i am pr sundar "

[@williambuell6454]

Trading with an expert is the best strategy for newbies and busy investors who have little or no time to monitor trade..

[@tylerheather4413]

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[@johnblessings5977]

[@mousesmike886]

Just made my first withdrawal last week and I wasn't happy with myself because I was skeptical which made me invest so law meanwhile I'm on my second trade with him and this time I invested in a big way??

[@adebayooluwaseyi7652]

I doubted it too before gave it a try...and it was of no regret.

[@amitavabiswas362]

The mantra I follow :- Stop impulsive and emotional trading / investing to stop loosing money in the market. If one is judicious with cool head, and patience, one will never loose money in the market rather keep increasing wealth.

[@mostlysanetrader]

Exactly he is talking rubbish

[@dheerajjha3404]

Show proof of your charity.

[@brmvkrishna]

Most of the Telugu KZbinrs are making more than one lakh everyday.. 😆.. They do counter trades in another account and encouraging retail innocent investors to join their course.. Hatsoff to your genuine speech MR.Sundar.Thanks a lot for your knowledge sharing..

[@artanksale]

Sir 🙏 You continuously remind me of this line - "Stock Market is a place where money of Impatient unskilled traders gets converted into WEALTH of patient skillful Investers (traders too... I think)" And of course, Congratulations for the NEW laptop 🙂 (in case its a new one)

[@daniel14871]

Yes ...its new Macbook Air M1 ...bought by Technology Jock for him to run this channel

[@rajeevnair1461]

@@daniel14871 Never knew that the new Mac Book Air M1 has ASUS written on it's lid 😁 Because the laptop that Sir is holding in this video has ASUS written on it's lid 😊

[@daniel14871]

@@rajeevnair1461 that is an asus skin

[@rajeevnair1461]

@@daniel14871 That would be like buying a Pagani and pasting a Maruti logo on that 😁🙏

[@daniel14871]

@@rajeevnair1461 some people are modest....i have an iphone with a lava logo and skin on it.....helps when i travel on a train and stand in bus stop.....nobody bats an eyelid or tries to steal it 🤣

[@samarthsharma8131]

This is an eye opener for all those newbies who entered recently thinking that trading is an easy option to make money even this was an eye opener for me to thanks a lot sir

[@raghukalathal4295]

Sundar sir and his realistic anologies 🙏 this series we are seeing a different hard truth side of urs Sir , please continue same style 🙏

[@TheAlhumam]

Very helpful, I’d suggest my friends to watch this series, who want to start but have wrong expectations.

[@prathamkukreja6253]

absolutely true...my loss was showing 52k and when i actually saw my account...102k were missing and rest 50k are nothing but brokerage and taxes

[@kartikshankar6600]

Truly inspiring sir. Clear crisp and precise. People usually like to show a very rosy picture. But it is rarely someone who shows the true side of things

[@user-ko2bc7ls8t]

I never invested 1 rupee in stocks in my entire life. Now this video is the only video that is not asking me to regret for it. Thanks. I am a genius 🙈. I always knew that stock is also like lottery. Winning probability is nearly zero.

[@venkateshjay5769]

Sir, as you are an hunter of option buyers, people may think this really caring video as ; Wolf crying for a goat suffering in rain. Knowledge is Power.

[@srirampadmanabhan3648]

When sundar sir speaks, his experience speaks with him. Very rare to find sincere teachers, sorry Acharyas such as him. An Acharya will teach and also practice. Thank you sir, for your insight. I don't think anyone has shared on this subject so clearly. Awaiting next lesson.

[@sujithp1813]

Sir, your explanation slightly means that stock market is gambling, so please make it more clear it's not a gambling

[@TonmoyMaity]

It's universal truth that 2% succeed. Stock market is no different. Every field is same. But, the difference is stock market make you understand this very quickly. This does not mean one should not come. Please sir don't demotivate anyone. Every examination has

[@murulig7445]

I become demotivated when I see ur video on trading and I am very strongly motivated when I see power of stock videos.

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[@atharvakadam6573]

Yes he’s very demotivating, it is the harsh truth I accept but his way of presentation is wrong

[@swingtrader62]

@@atharvakadam6573but He is saying truth on the basis of the experience which he gained in this market...I can understand it's not easy to digest for people who are new in this market but that is the harsh truth no body is earning money here... only broker and goverment is earning by taxes and brokerage charges

[@MrRohit016]

buyer is not making money, seller is also not making money only exchange, broker and govt is making money and few gems like Mr. Sundar.

[@Cba9009]

Superb Sir, what level of detailed thoughts you have. Sometimes it feels like everyday you do the postmortem of the stock market and publish the truth hidden behind it which is out of anyone's thought🙏🙏

[@viveksavlani5554]

Wowww Sir Promoting Charity is Always a Good Idea 😍

[@dtarunjain9408]

I agree with Mr. P R Sundar. I have always had a probability of 95% profit in option selling but my monthly returns are only 2% of capital deployed. The moment the monthly return cross 2% I am on high alert that my risk is increasing. So if people are happy with decent return of 2% pm of capital deployed, I am sure everyone can make profit.

[@dyno_dope9624]

So what do you want to say that you can't earn more than you think in stock market

[@sunil-tm5zj]

Jain bhai if ur 2% are in lakhs or crores be happy with it, why bother about what deployed🤔

[@ArjunRaj-ve2cd]

Iam making 5% per month past 6 months by option selling

[@arnoldshmitt4969]

@@ArjunRaj-ve2cd ON A small capital of few lakh 5% is not a big deal , problem comes when your capital is in crores then it is difficult to generate decent return on it

[@dtarunjain9408]

@@dyno_dope9624 I am sure many make high returns. But when you move your bank deposits to earn a return even 2% is 4 times bank return. And I happen to make about 2.00 to 2.5 lakhs every week. So I am happy with it. Option selling is like driving a fast car you can take it as fast as possible but you should be able to steer and control the car at high speed. 😀👍

[@rajendranparthasarathy4037]

Same is the case in any other field, like transport sector, not all lorry owners succeed in business, more than 95% do not survive beyond 2 years, more than 99% aspirants having graduations seeking govt. job do not succeed, more than 98% applying for medical seat do not succeed, more than 95% of entrepreneurs fail, more than 95% of candidates contesting elections fail, There shall always be majority failures and minority success stories, NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE A MILLIONAIRE, CHIEF MINISTER, But everybody should strive and given opportunity to thrive.

[@dalilaohb86]

Trust me anyone watching this right now is in search for innovation that will change the way we work,and only the new age dream traders are willing to share and not dribble.

[@ina-Marine902]

Sounding more like someone who is not scared of the global economic doom that has be fallen all nations. lol

[@beniaminobiancotutooniente]

Swim out of your debt trap by all means, best way remains to invest in assets.

[@dalilaohb86]

Of course i am not scared of any global economic doom, most of these experts are obviously running a decentralized system with new tech, they're only willing to talk to who is ready, I know a guy tho.

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[@GeorgeAndre784]

Nice trading platform I must say... I have seen his(Mr Elton) trading algorithm and portfolio set ups Amazingly standard.

[@sarang7911]

@3:30 P.R. Sundar sir wants to say to everyone .... I'll be always a seller and you will be always a buyer 😂

[@MusafirSafwan]

Nice catch 😂

[@justplay6315]

Just wait for a day when nifty fally by 8+% it did happen already in March 2020, so not an impossible one to happen in future too!

[@subrayahegade2468]

@@justplay6315 brother last year there was a panic..this time why it will??think before speak 😆😆😅😅

[@justplay6315]

@@subrayahegade2468 brother panic comes because a new news get born or something new happens. So right now there is no reason but future anything can come up. Its what I mean(it may not come too then I will be wrong that's all)

[@subrayahegade2468]

@@justplay6315 yeah...that's what I am telling...you see market crashes after 8 to 10 years not year to year..😆😆😅😅🤣..if it crashes every year then index will be zero..😆😆😅😅🤣..market will rise eventually in the long run

[@gamingwithfun4810]

Your videos make a huge difference to the new traders ... thank you so much for sharing your experience sir..love from Bangalore ❤️

[@RaviKumar-ej5yz]

You forgot to mention about Income Tax on the profit earned!

[@Harshit11463]

Sir by watching most of ur videos I always get a feeling that option selling is the only way to earn consistent profits

[@anuragsri81]

Great Sir!!! You are the only one who is giving the right guidance about the market

[@dipanjan2k]

Dear Sir, we are with you !! Thanks for continuously making such insightful videos....three cheers to you sir

[@naughtyprincipal4174]

What i understood from my own trading experience is that have a good risk to reward ratio to make money in stock market , on an average I make 1000rs profit but on the other day I lose 1000rs ,but what if I would've had exited from trade when loss was just 400 rs so then also I would had 600rs profit of my previous trade safe with me , DONT LOSE THE EXACTLY SAME AMOUNT YOU WIN remember this my personal trading experiences tells me if you earn 1000 rs then just lost 400 rs not more then it if trade goes against your favour, atleast you will have 600 rs profit of your previous trade safe with you this is the only way to make money in stock market which I believe.

[@4155467]

Respected sir, Thank you for your new message on stock market trading. Really good explanation with examples. people who are thinking stock market is simply earning money without putting any effort. With your explanation, it is learned that it is not dream casino to earn money.

[@stanleyrajnewton]

Thank you sir. Now, it is getting interest to watch your video still more eagerly to know the real facts about the stock market...once again, thank you for sharing your experiences sir. Will continue to watch without fail...

[@rajasekaransp2351]

Fantastic sir. Mathematically explained the myths. Now only understood clearly.

[@danielsurisetty]

Sir P R Sundar is becoming smart in conveying things!

[@subodh.r4835]

Selling options requires a huge amount of margin but Spreads give the margin benefit, which would give you better % of returns.

[@mankb1]

Sir, your videos are very informative and give practical inputs about stock market. Thank you.

[@akbarmohideen8032]

Sir im waiting for mission options next video... No one can replace u sir... 👌👍

[@sulochanaravi7599]

Very good understanding about stock market. Thank you so much sir. The way you explain the matter is very much appreciable.

[@myrelaxpoint]

It's been around 6 months of trading for me and I am in 60k loss in which 65k is tax/brokerage and 5k is my realised profit 😐

[@thakurboys5962]

What😮

[@BibinVenugopal]

Are you using some full service broker?

[@myrelaxpoint]

@@BibinVenugopal No... Discount broker. Zerodha

[@Kiran-wj6zi]

I agree it's a -ve sum game but every one starts from loosing phase only....

[@aashishdesai5219]

Perfect analysis Mr. Sundar In fact our total Charges & Margins are very HIGH as compared to international markets. For Intraday Traders it should be less.

[@DK-du5nq]

I have no knowledge about Share trading. Urs Ep1 is the first video I just started watching to learn..happy that I started with urs..Ep2 is my second....Very Simple and effective ur video..Thanks!.will keep watching more to learn

[@marketmoversindia5434]

Your Episode 1 was good and this 2nd one is also very good. I do listen to your post market reports too and almost everytime I find something new which otherwise I was not aware of- So thank you Sundar Sir for that. Really appreciate you taking time out to do this.

[@nafasm]

Thank You PR, You are a very noble personality and a great teacher

[@rajeshsarisa9590]

Trading is not a game of luck, it's a game of skill. I don't think it can be compared with casino.

[@sureshgarine]

the comparison here is on the expenses side, how casino owners make money for running the business, similarly, NSE, brokers, clearing corp Govt make money, which is the trader's money only, on top of it, paying taxes on the gains also an expense.

[@jesurajesh]

It is game of speculation in casino

[@rajeshsarisa9590]

@@jesurajesh It's a game of probability in the casino.

[@MrSudeepantony]

If you develop good skills in Option selling, one can make profits of around 20-25% per year. That's it. Moreover having Good capital provides an edge for fire fighting & adjustments.

[@movielovers8463]

You speak dark truth that's why people can't digest these things.. I became big fan of you pr Sundar sir ...

[@naaaneee4167]

i entered in stock market 2 months back....in last 2 months my final profit is less than 5000 and i paid taxes of above Rs. 20,000 ... isn't that amazing ?

[@RD1717]

Very nice, jem of interpretation about stock market, you have opened my eyes. Iam only making India rich.but myself loss. No body disclosing this .ThanQ sir.

[@chawlakeerthi5032]

Hello bro, don’t think that’s way.. you are making yourself rich and not India.. for how long have you been investing the markets for profits?

[@history_explorer12]

Thanks a lot sir for your valuable insights on the stock market.. it really helps a lot for the starters.

[@hot4imvu]

we all know your name lol ' Hi this is pr sundar ' my fav line

[@estherdrixlar3528]

*Do*well*To*write*Mrs*Audrey*Profit* W_h_a_t_A_p_p_O_n_l_y _+* 1* 9* 0* 4* 5* 8* 5* 5* 0* 9* 6_

[@dhirajsrivastava5922]

That is his humility.... always telling name..... remember who does not know kbc host Amitabh Bachchan but every time he appears for the show he always tell namaskar main Amitabh Bachchan bol raha hu....this is humility.....

[@rkguptaccl]

New angle to think before become trader. Well explained

[@profitismyfavouritesubject3512]

Great knowledge Sir ! 👍 . Only thing is big daddies surely earn much more than 5 % .

[@neoneeo]

Your mathematics background shows in your talks...grt series.

[@harikishan3229]

There is one word called hedging where you can reduce your margin and get decent returns... Skills will help you to get your heights

[@w1nterplays]

The term Hedge or hedging means what bro

[@varunb2706]

Yes I am doing same. And getting safe return upto 10% in a Month with Capital of just 1 Lakh

[@varunb2706]

But don't know why no one talks about it

[@varunb2706]

@@w1nterplays it means taking a Contra Trade to reduce the Risk levels and it also helps to reduce the Margin Requirement

[@PRSundar64]

will talk about it in upcoming episodes

[@Kanupriyawork]

Sir very easy to understand ...very simple examples...nice sir

[@sridharkm4068]

You are a superb analyst I had paid so far 0ne lakh as charges on brokerage and tax.

[@pamdysingh8944]

It needs lot of courage to reveal such facts.. You becomes an eye opener for lots of traders who comes in this market with very high expectations. A big thumbs up 👍to you Sir, to come up with such an enlightening series.. May this series save some lives and futures of traders. Lots of love you Sir..🥰🥰 keep going... 👏👏

[@pamdysingh8944]

@P R SundarSir, shall I have to call at this no.??

[@chonash6869]

Yeah! trading is not a zero sum game, where stocks are the living entities, it could be a positive sum game or negtive sum game , here plays the probability, Always trade like a casino owner but not like a gambler.

[@yogesha553]

In my life you are one of the best Genuine Adviser 🙏. ...me also South Indian....

[@Swastiktiwari]

Great eye opener. Respect for you is increasing day by day sir...

[@sridhars783]

Those 1% are diis , fiis , few retailers and definitely some people like you sir .

[@asheetsinvhal2195]

This makes me realise power of value investing...

[@MuscleMan10]

no one like that you.....love from Uttar Pradesh

[@rameshchippala8757]

Thank you so much sir, Your are a good teacher like my father

[@amanbhatia6537]

👏👏👏very well explained sir eye opener waiting for the next video Thank you 🙏

[@AnkitMalikDSM]

I think we forgot about income tax and corporate tax because it also eats into the capital/profits.

[@vaibhav9659]

Sir zebu charges Rs.50 per lot and IIFL charges Rs.20. In your previous videos you have mentioned the prices wrong.

[@thevkc11]

Plz make a detailed video on investing vs trading!

[@vinaya_pai]

If it is a negative sum game, then why so many videos enticing people into it, with claims of how you made?

[@ikshitness]

*LET ME CLARIFY BEFOREHAND: THIS IS NEITHER IN FAVOUR NOR AGAINST P R SUNDAR* Fact : It is 100 % true that one can make money in stock market. Fact : 99% of traders lose money in stock market.

[@raj5999]

It is extremely interesting to see educational videos and their discussions and comments

[@sid2524073]

Sir Great Information. Kindly separate trading and investing. As when you say Stock Market it involves both. Thanks

[@madhukoli6481]

I have observed that, a nominal educated(about trading) who has lost only a little money in trading would appreciate themselves that they hadnot lost anything. Infact the trader would b in profit. If that trader observes his ledger, most of their lost money is only for brokerage n taxes. It is absolute right. No one would be a loser if they go through their ledger. 👍

[@YOUliveONLYonce777]

When Experience talks.... Thanks for video SIR

[@superlikestudies429]

The comparison of stock market with the gamble game example would not the so appropriate as their is no wealth creation and the house will win over a period of time....But in stock market a company share grows when the company makes good profit...So in this case in long run the house is not just the winner but the other players as well can win...That is the reason it is legalised and such games are illegal...it is just my views with all due respect to other views as well..😊

[@kkr6247]

Over analysis = paralysis. So don' t worry about falana charges dhimkana charges, nifty daily trade on average 50k crore. If you skilled' go ahead.

[@ashishpandey9823]

A video worth watching and developing conviction and confidence for people aspiring to benefit from Stock Market 👌

[@prajwaldhanya]

Badly waiting for video on treating SM as business.

[@avthomas4894]

Sir your explanations even blind person can understand the share market. Thanks

[@sachinwaghmare3307]

Charges are not part of the money you put on the table. Charges are in addition to what you put in stock market. Hence charges doesn't form a part of whatever money is being traded. Thus, i feel you are mistaken. Derivatives is definitely a zero sum game.

[@dskalantri]

PRS you give totally different perspectives. Keep it up.

[@rahman90sa7]

Your reference like example are very easy to understand

[@ParvinderSinghDhillon]

Hello Sundar ji, I commented on your previous video which you may have not noticed. I definitely want your comment on that. Below I am copy pasting it once again. Dear Sundar Sir, Q: What makes you feel that you are top 1% ? Ans: Dear Sundar Sir, I am following you since one year as most people and only following you and just one more channel. I am a very small time trader. But, I have learned a lot from you. Once in one of your videos you said and I totally believe in it that, "treat trading purely as your business" not think it as any money making game and I am following it like a carving on a stone. I think if you expect a rational profit vis-a-vis the capital you have infused as in any other business and give it the same thought process as you would have done in any other business, like the determination to be successful, the required skill upgradation, skill to manage risk and accept ups and downs as a natural byproduct of being in business you will surely succeed. You said 1% make profit. You didn't said BIG PROFIT. If you are not in loss and you could generate more than 8% net profit annually of the capital you have used then you are surely in top 1%. So am I. Right?

[@sureshpolali4616]

All these can be calculated using the NET PRESENT VALUE NPV calculation. Treating trading as a business is key. In any other business, one needs to take too many licenses and permissions from various state govt and central govt departments. For a Hotel always inspector will come and charge fine for small reasons. For consultants, we need to pay Professional Tax and other fees, etc.. Trading is one very clean and straight forward Business with transparent system

[@7varuvij]

When we pay so much taxes n other charges to the govt while trading, charity is a far cry. 🙄

[@thyag26]

The video was great till 8:00 minute, after that seems it is getting personal on some person - is it wrong if somebody doesn't spend, showoff, do charity with the money they earn (everybody is not bappi lahiri 🤔).

[@syedyousufifteqar9707]

Sir, what a great explanation and examples.. i will never do trading now. Only long term investment from now.

[@Curiousviewer88]

Sir, u r telling a thing, about which I am thinking from last 5-6 months, how a trading can zero sum game?

[@Curiousviewer88]

@P R Sundar plz sir

[@marketmoversindia5434]

What an insight! Trading is a NEGATIVE SUM GAME.

[@akhil_sai]

Many people promoting day trading for selling their course and making more liquidity in market...

[@hairstuff371]

STT is too high for intraday equity and delivery segment.... And then after so much high taxes we have nse glitch and bogus nse & sebi penalty

[@sss3amitg]

"invested in tables" !!! PR is great !!! :)

[@amsn.hameed1808]

i wish to meet 2 people in my life one is warren buffet and PR sunder another.

[@krishnamurthyramala1048]

Very good examples you gave PR sir.

[@elanchezhiankunchidapadam800]

Sir it is zero sum game only because, one person is winning and the opposite person is losing. Here taxes and charges are excluded since both persons are paying the charges.

[@rishukumar7485]

Two channels are at different level. One is SMKC and other one is PR Sundar.

[@Rameshbabu-ws4np]

Dr P R SUNDER SIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH

[@ajayKumar-lx6rk]

Again, a great lesson. Thanks a lot sir. Waiting for ur 3rd video eagerly. Ur expertise is helping a lot

[@estherdrixlar3528]

*Do*well*To*write*Mrs*Audrey*Profit* W_h_a_t_A_p_p_O_n_l_y _+* 1* 9* 0* 4* 5* 8* 5* 5* 0* 9* 6_

[@ajayKumar-lx6rk]

@@estherdrixlar3528 Thank you Sir