Traditional Bowhunting On A Budget! Killer Setups That Get It Done!

[@killashaks2929]

Jeff , you're my long distance teacher . I'm an instinctive archer from England , I've learned everything i know from you . Even though I got a long way to go , I know I'll get there through your videos, they've been absolutely essential to me, please keep them going , you're knowledge and the way you teach us all, it means so much man to all the archers you'll never meet

[@DougGrotler-lf2cu]

I bought one of the Royal X8's myself, because of your review earlier this year. I found the tiller to be off just like you mentioned and corrected it. I spent the time to tune it with the arrows. I learned a lot in the process, and I'm very happy with the results. Mine's a 40lb @ 28" model, and I draw 28". My arrow choice is the Gold Tip Traditional shafts in 500 spine, their final length is 28¾". I use 100gr brass inserts and 200gr heads. I had a chance to try it out from my foodplot treestand, which is 22' up at its base. I shot from 15 to 30 yards at oak leaves and was able to hit or move the leaves with every shot! I couldn't believe how quiet it was! I opted to install threaded inserts into the riser and use a detachable 4 arrow quiver. I've checked it thru a chronograph for kicks and found it shoots @155~158fps. I really like the end product, that my customized Royal X 8, has become! Keep up the great videos!

[@ThirdLawPair]

I'm still shooting with my Black Hunter recurve that I started with. My only problem is that it shoots so good and so fast then it's hard to find an upgrade that actually performs better.

[@Fabsterman]

Love your enthusiastic videos. And I indeed learn something new most of the time ; )

[@reggiecaillouet1463]

Jeff…. We all thank you so very much for doing what you do to get people to see budget bows! Wondering if you could take a look at budget compound bows… just got the Sanlida Dragon X7 for $139 for an entire package…. For those out there like me having to use a LOW poundage bow setup due to shoulder injury… this bow is amazing and for the price cannot be beat!

[@jacobtrepanier1955]

I have a SAS Maverick and man, that Sanlida looks identical to my Maverick. Good vid as usual though. My only gripe is I've watched Jeff shoot dozens of bows and they all were tack drivers just the same as his Black Death in this vid. Doesn't matter what he shoots because he'll set it up to his own specs and it will shoot fantastic.

[@russelljones3171]

Can you do one on the black hunter, and what you make them shoot,and what you did to the x-8 to to lower poundage,!!!!

[@chuckratliff2474]

Thanks for another awesome video Jeff I pray that you have a successful and safe hunting season

[@donaldbuckner2935]

Great looking setup! Thanks for showing great options for budget minded folks. You are very humble in your shooting abilities. Great consistent shooting process. Great results.

[@matthewgreene5330]

I cant wait, I am so excited.

[@JHorn731]

Great video as always, never used to do much to my recurves other than tuning and silencing now I’m sanding and refinishing grips, tweaking string silencer positions, and testing multiple string and arrow combinations and wow just wow was I missing out on so much my recurves are silent and deadly accurate ! Thank you for all the help and insight keep bringing the knowledge brother.

[@derekbaggett189]

I’m actually thinking about making the switch from compound to traditional. I’ve only ever shot compound and all of my compound shots are 30 yards and in. I figure I’d give trad a try since I keep all my shots short range. I’m in Columbus GA and hunt super thick areas. I like this budget builds and have zero idea about setting up a trad bow.

[@jasoncrose4328]

Hey Jeff! I may have missed it in the comments, my apologies if this is repetitive. I'm ordering that to make "Black Death - Yankee Edition" ! Can you give some brief insight on the process you used to get that tiller down? I know it's a cheap bow but I don't want to ruin it by guessing. Thanks and have a great day!

[@MattSahlberg]

Im looking to get into traditional archery. My local shop suggested the AF American flatbow. What are your thoughts on longbows? I don't have many folks around here in michigan that do fine turning on traditional bows like you talked about in your video. Thank you for any input. Great video as well!!!!!

[@timothyribis4751]

Mr. Phillips: I can not put into words how much you have helped me with shooting of my bow. Or how much I appreciate you. thank you, and God Bless you for all you do for all the trad bow shooter. Could you please tell me where I may find 150 or 200 grain inserts for Ted Nugent pink tiger stripe 500 arrows? My arrows are full length, and test to stiff with a 145 grain Bear razer head, and 35 grain aluminum adaptor. I also am shooting a 40 pound Bear super Kmag. 48" bow, and draw 27 1/2" I thank you in advance. God Bless. Tim

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@timothyribis4751 Thanks so much Tim, you can get the Gold Tip inserts from 3rivers and even Amazon, they’re.246 gold tip brass 100 grain and you can add the Fact weights as needed to go beyond 100 grains 👍🏻

[@chief1193]

Can you please do a video on how to store your bow if you are not going to shoot it for a few months. PLEASE

[@UncleDanBand64]

Speaking of cheap bows. My oldest son needed a takedown for a hunt he has to fly to out of state. I suggested the Toparchery 56" Aluminum Riser TD recurve. The bow had a bad review several years ago from Kramer Ammons. At any rate it cost 69 bucks. It shoots great. Myself and another hunting buddy ordered us one instantly. Will it be my main bow? Nope, but I will carry it as a backup on out of town hunts.

[@timfetters7471]

Question? Or maybe video idea? I pick up Grayling Mi bows when I see them come up for sale. My question is now that I’ve found your channel the traditional bug has really bitten me hard. I’m going to use my compound for this season but I want to switch over for next year hopefully giving me a chance to get comfortable by bow season next year. Hopefully I transition well I grew up shooting instinctive with compound bows for probably 15 years then the technology grabbed me and for the last 20 years I’ve had all the bells and whistles. I really want the challenge of ground hunting with traditional equipment. So the question is should I set up one of my Grayling bows to hunt with or should I invest in newer equipment. All the grayling bows are recurves. And I thought if I bought a new bow I would get the Montana or Au Sable. Are the older bows ok to shoot? Are they prone to damage because of the age of the epoxy or fiberglass? Anyone’s input is welcomed. Feel free to give me your 2 cents. I’ve done all my own setups with compound and feel comfortable setting up the bows with new strings I’m assuming. Most of my concerns are if I’m hurting a bow I would like to keep and pass down. I don’t mind use and maybe a scratch from use but I’m just worried I may ruin them. Thanks in advance.

[@ShadeCreekTraditional]

Informative as always Mr. Phillips

[@appalachianoutdoors4709]

Jeff can u review the old mountain mesa long bow

[@javenn1]

Man I really love your videos!!! So much so that I have gotten my daughter into shooting too! I just ordered a sanlida x10. 45# what arrows would you recommend?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@javenn1 I’d get some gold tip warriors from 3rivers already fletched in either 600 or 500 spine depending on exactly how much she’s drawing and the length of course 👍🏻

[@tonydawson2405]

Hey Jeff - have you shot the Sanlida Royal X8 longbow yet? Wondering how the longbow compares to the recurve, and if it is of a similar quality? Thanks for all of the great info, as always!

[@Traditional.Archery.Family]

Nice video as always Mr. Phillips! My problem is I want them all! I just don’t have the budget! Lol

[@outdoorsman9384]

Jeff thanks for what you do brother in Christ, i just looked back at your sharpening course on Simmons, gold man, I really like those Simmons Timber Sharks want to give them lethal weapons a go. Im also looking for the best blood trails, thinking that bad boy will be the real toy😁👊

[@miragexl007]

So, Can you Adjust ilf bows by like 5#? I ordered that new hermit X 62" at 35 pounds

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@miragexl007 they are designed to be a plus or minus about 3 pounds and generally come bottomed out at maximum weight which gives you safely three full turns max out to reduce weight and adjust tiller but usually shoot better closer to bottomed out with about 1/8” positive tiller ( top limb slightly weaker)

[@RobsBushcraftandAdventures]

Hi Jeff, great informative vid as always. I have a question I hope you can help me out with. So I have a Spyder XL 64 and have 2 different limbs for it (29lb and 50lb). My question is what spine shafts should I get for the 50lb limbs which I haven't shot yet. I plan to use Gold Tip Warrior shafts and 250gr point weight. My draw length is 29 3/4" and carbon to carbon shafts I shoot is 30". So with my draw length I'm guessing my bow is actually 54lbs. Do you think I should get 400 or 340 spine shafts for the 54lb? Thanks Jeff

[@Little-by-little-more]

Jeff: you’re not running the Bear arrow rest. Opting for off the shelf. Is that purely to do with hitting where you’re pointing? Or have you gone off rests? Another great video!

[@kennylainhart7148]

Thanks Jeff!!!! Correction left is stiff and right is weak!!!

[@matthewgreene5330]

I brought a Damon Howatt hunter at a yard sale for 10 dollars. I am switching back to my roots this season and putting my $2200 compound in the closet.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@matthewgreene5330 you’re in for a fun adventure my friend!

[@jasoncummings1755]

You didnt buy that bow, you stole it!!! You should feel bad! Lol! Ive had a DH for 20yrs. Great shooter!!

[@gabrielschipor6744]

Hi Jeff, I’m in the process of bare shaft tuning some gold tip warriors for my bear super magnum 48” 45# recurve. I have a 28” draw length and I haven’t cut the shafts yet, so they’re full length 500 spine, 250 grains up front. One of the shafts are flying nock right which is a stiff spine but I haven’t cut it yet. Is it possible to get bad arrow shafts in a dozen batch of arrows? Have you had anything similar happen or bad arrows? Thanks, I love your videos keep them coming!!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@gabrielschipor6744 I’ve never had a bad warrior shaft but also make sure to step back at least 18-20 yards to get an accurate reading but they shouldn’t be stiff I wouldn’t think.

[@gabrielschipor6744]

@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thank you Jeff I appreciate it!

[@dougroll8139]

Looked for your broadhead sharpening video and didn't find it. Could you leave a link to it? Thanks

[@greeneyesfromohio4103]

About to buy my first bow and I want to get into traditional archery. Deer hunting is the goal. Their seem to be good trad bows for around $200 but I don’t want a Chinese made bow which is what alot of them are. The only American made bows I can find are Bear, but their $400+ dollars. That’s a lot for my first bow. Any advice?

[@ronbrown8559]

Jeff, FYI the 45 pound 62” long draw Sanlida Hermit is no longer available! Gone off the website! Bummer!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@ronbrown8559 They’re still coming, I got an email yesterday saying that they were in production now 👍🏻

[@ronbrown8559]

@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thank you Jeff!

[@jurelorencic9404]

Hello Jeff. Do you have any expirience with risers exe scream and with samick discovery?? Have a nice day

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@jurelorencic9404 yes both are great quality for the price!

[@jurelorencic9404]

Hi Jeff. I don't find any email adress to send you a email.

[@worldtraveler8372]

For the 62" x10 what is max draw length?

[@brandonreed3240]

What fletchings are you using?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@brandonreed3240 I use 4” True Flight feathers 👍🏻

[@matthewyu3531]

Hi Jeff, could you design a fast arrow loading method so that the archer can shoot arrows continuously at a rate of one arrow per second? Such an approach would be a huge help to me. Thank you.

[@lukemoseley7260]

What budget recurve would you recommend for someone with a 30.25 inch draw that shoots three under?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@lukemoseley7260 Sanlida is releasing another one in November that i already have a prototype of and it’s awesome!

[@lukemoseley7260]

@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 are you able to give any information about it? I've been look at the galaxy black ridge recurve on Lancaster and it seems like the only semi affordable recurve I can get that would work for my draw length and wouldn't have finger pinch.

[@russelljones3171]

How can you shoot a D-97 string on a bow that is not made to shoot fast flight,you said B55 only, which is correct? Please reply.

[@goyaae7588]

Can you do a review on a bear super grizzly?

[@ET-sp6qm]

I have a question. I’ve hunted with a compound 27 years and have been considering trying a traditional setup. Anyways, if I’m a 29” draw with compound does that translate to a 29” draw for long bow or recurve??

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@ET-sp6qm No, you’re going to be at least 1” shorter draw with a recurve or longbow maybe a little more and the number one thing you must be willing to do is start out at least 20 pounds lighter than your compound which will still feel pretty stout but it’ll allow you to develop muscle groups you don’t use now and also develop a consistent shot process that works for you plus the fact that you’re going to find yourself shooting constantly with a traditional bow lol

[@davidswaboda4609]

How do you get in touch with TTT string company, I’m not the best with computers, thanks.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@davidswaboda4609 Facebook page 👍🏻

[@UncleDanBand64]

In my experience weak arrows hit right and stiff hit left. I am a right handed Mediterranean draw.

[@miragexl007]

Lol. So I spent too much on an Oberon and recently a hermit X10 62".. And I didn't have to? Just messing... I really like the Oberon... And people can't Stop commenting on it. Im hoping that Hermit X10 comes with a d97... So I don't have to spend an additional 40 bucks on a string. I still cant confirm

[@ronbrown8559]

Jeff, I’m getting kinda frustrated! Sanlida still hasn’t released the 62” 45 pound Hermit x10! Bummer!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@ronbrown8559 it’s actually on their website today but I haven’t received any email updates from them.

[@ronbrown8559]

@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 yes I’ve been watching their website all summer! 62” is there but no 45 pounders! Our deer season has started! Oh well…

[@ShadeCreekTraditional]

My sas maverick with black glass is the sanlida. My maverick in 45 “clear glass” is extremely close to a bear grizzly. My October mountain smoky mountain hunter is a sammick sage… If the copycat bow company’s use the same specs, wood, glue, glass etc, is there really a difference? My October mountain mountaineer, the mountaineer dusk, the ragim raven longbow which is very close to a hill inspired bow with a dish grip, the black hunter, my fleetwood Yukon, ALL perform as expected. The one bow that gave me problems is the bear ausable. The shelf is not radius as advertised. The flat shelf angles towards the sky at full draw. It is 65.2 inches long not 64… with a 700 dollar bow, I should not have had to fix those issues. When you buy anything, the quality should be excellent regardless. I don’t understand why people expect bad quality with foreign country’s. I’ve had NO issues with foreign bows. Not everyone in other country’s is a communist. Not everyone wants to steal your money. And when you limit what you purchase because of misconstrued beliefs, you limit YOURSELF and your POTENTIAL. Maybe that foreign made bow will be perfect for you and you’ll shoot your best. But you missed out because you’re above foreign made bows and “dang nabbit chiner!!” Get a handle on it people! Get out of that box! The world is huge and there is too much to do with so little time

[@abirch77]

Thanks Jeff. But I am once again disappointed to see the maximum draw is under 31 inches. Little love for us long-limbed folks that draw 32". Sigh.

[@HannibalsSurplusReviews]

I just spent $48 on a used proline compound bow

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@HannibalsSurplusReviews dang that’s cheap enough lol!

[@HannibalsSurplusReviews]

​@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 It's made in USA for one and I look for older vintage compound bows

[@jaybennett7242]

Another great video Jeff thanks again.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@jaybennett7242 thanks brother!😁👍🏻

[@jaybennett7242]

@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I looked up the Sanlida, unfortunately I’m a lefty and they’re only made for right handed. No big deal I have more bows than I can shoot now. Good luck this season brother.

[@BruceMcafee]

Great video!! I bought a hermit X10 and love it !!

[@larryadams2184]

Would it be possible that I could get a bow string made for one of those bows for you my friend

[@joshcarney9067]

Do you still have any of your take down forms?

[@joshcarney9067]

Jeeze

[@unknown-archer]

another lucky shot from jeff