Traditional Korean Swords and Blades

#Swords #History #Korea

[@xwaewax]

この人、日本に習いに来てた人だよね。そのときの様子がyoutubeにあるよ。

[@kazzB]

韓国人のウリナラ文化盗用。日本の忍者の次は侍の魂、刀までパクるか。This is 100% culture appropriation.

[@acrux1918]

DON'T look at the comments. There are extremists on both sides of the arguement here, and your braincells would die just by reading them. Why can't we just appreciate each other's cultures as it is, and not go throwing shit about who stole from who. It's childish. Of course cultures overlap. That's how influential culture development works. All countries have their own, unique cultures, and we shouldn't go throwing shit about it at each other. End of rant.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

What extremism? This Korean blacksmith travelled to Japan to learn how to make a Japanese Katana. As long as he won't go saying that its a Korean sword now everybody is fine with that.

[@spacecadet620]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 well if it is a katana then he should call it a katana. But the Korean jingum and Japanese katana do have differences. They are very subtle differences but they are definitely there. Its not stealing Japanese culture

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@spacecadet620 Yeah? So I can copy Korean Hanbok, and add an extra ribbon to it and call it a traditional Kazakh dress? Koreans couldn't copy the Katana 100% because Japanese metallurgy process was a secret back then, so the Koreans copied only the outer form. And yes, by the times of Joseon, the Japanese metallurgy was leagues above Korean one, although Koreans did introduce the initial basic metallurgy from China to Japan in the 5th century, Japan quickly surpassed the Korean metal working.

[@noblesseraziel9499]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 actually japan had the worst iron of the 3 major (china, korea, japan). That so called secret process was to turn shitty iron somewhat useable and turn it into a work of art.

[@noblesseraziel9499]

if you really want to get technical the chinese were the first to do it with thier dao swords

[@dsproductions47]

Before katana lovers come charging in, most smithing techniques shown here weren't invented either in Korea or Japan. It was passed down from China, then to Korea, then to Japan, each country took their own different approach to perfect their own blades. No one is stealing cultures here, but to say single edged katana like swords belong to Japanese culture is saying broad swords were only part of French culture when most of Europe also used it..... Also during times of peace lot of trade happened between Japan and Korea, so I'm pretty sure they shared lots of techniques as well.

[@kenadrian27]

The issue here is that Lee Eun Cheul (the korean guy making the sword in the video) traveled to Japan to learn swordsmithing from katana makers to "rediscover the lost korean swordmaking method." The assumption here was that Japan learned the entirety of their swordmaking from Korea, so katanas are technically made using purely Korean methods. This probably isn't true, due to the different types of metals found in korea and Japan (korea had better quality metals, so they didn't actually need to process their ore in the same way) and the fact that korean swords usually don't have wave patterns like Japanese swords. Swordmaking evolved in Japan after the Chinese/ Koreans introduced it,so you cant say Japanese swordmaking are the same as Korean methods

[@dandylion3783]

@@kenadrian27 i can get what u mean. i agree with u to a certain degree. that being said, the term "rediscover" would be really debatable. if some culture, or a certain technology, had ceased for lack of support long time ago, then no one would make up for those absence. it is nothing but "crying for the moon." in conclusion, it is of no use, or nonsense, to fill those absence with some cultural habits which is prevailing in the neighboring country, with some technology by imitating it. if someone "rediscover" a certain tech, and "remake" something through those tech in modern times, any one will regard these things as a counterfeit (or a replica to the utmost). dont u think so?

[@dsproductions47]

@@kenadrian27 what you say is true, but you have to understand that the two country method was very similar. Also he uses techniques also that is mentio ed in korean historical books. He learned the fundementals from japan, and its an ongoingg process for him to relearn the traditional korean method. He had to start from somewhere. The reason he had to go to japan to start learning is that in korea there are no or if very few bladedmithes as when japan invaded, they made it illegal to make korean swords and destroyed or looted many historical items and texts as to destory the korean culture to erase it. If you look at further documentaries you can see korean bladesmithes like him are also learning and reading surviving korean texts to help them rediscover some methods. I never said all the methods are the same. Im saying many techniques are shared and the form of katana itself is used in many asian cultures. Just look at vietnamese blades. Its very much like the katana also.

[@krulteppes3565]

@@kenadrian27 katana was already in the asuka period of japan which is 538 to 710 compared to the tang dynasty of 618

[@lupimali9504]

@@dsproductions47 Seems like your ancestors, the Koreans in ancient times, highly esteemed both Japanese sword and their technique of iron forging in an honest manner, unlike the modern Koreans like you. ・"The Annals of the Joseon Dynasty (朝鮮王朝實録, 조선왕조실록)" says as follows: ① 15 May, 1487: "Any Japanese swords stored in the arsenal, even lower quality ones of those, are extremely sharp. Accordingly, it is not a good idea to sell these swords off thoughtlessly. Indeed, each arm stored there is in a reflection of the martial spirit of Japan." ② 17 June, 1593 "More likely our blunt swords are mere tree branches, and are no more than a child's toy in comparison with Japanese swords. Our swords are possibly scraped like hemp by Japanese swords." ・Yi Ik, "Seonghosaseol (李瀷「星湖僿說, 성호사설」)" : "There are silkworms in our country, but we make it a rule to import raw silk together with floss from our suzerain (i.e, imperial China). Also, although we have iron and furnaces of our own, both our swords and mirrors are no match for the wisdom of WA(i.e. ancient Japan) to make those ones. All the craftsmen in my country, in comparison with other foreign craftsmen, are regarded as worldly low-down ones." ・Shin Suk-ju, "Haedong Che Gukki (申 叔舟「海東諸國記, 해동제국기」)": "Japanese soldiers prefer to use both swords and spears. They exquisitely forge iron to make swords which are elaborate and inimitable." (兵好用槍剣【俗能錬鉄為刃精巧無比】) ・"Muyedobotongji (武藝圖譜通志, 무예도보통지)": "The Japanese sword is so strong and sharp. Therefore, even Chinese swords are no match for them."

[@gorotv5826]

This video is completely wrong. Korean has highly valued Japanese swords used by Japanese pirates since the 13 century. Koreans imported a large amount of Japanese swords between the 15 and 16 centuries, and it was since the Joseon Dynasty that swords like Japanese swords began to be made in Korea. What Korian is making in this video is a complete copy of a Japanese sword. Although Koreans claim that Tachi and Katana were invented by Koreans, the swords of ancient Korea and Japanese Tachi and Katana are completely different.

[@dylankern741]

FINALLY, I’ve been looking all over for some info on Korean swords. Thank you!

[@adenyang4398]

ハチ!ハチです To be fair Japanese shinogi and shobu zukuri style blades were popular weapons throughout the entirety of East and Southeast Asia since at least Song and late Goryeo period. Aside from Japanese style blades, double edged blades continued to be niche popular items among Taoist and folk civilian martial artists. Continental wedge cross section sabres also were used alongside them: mobile.twitter.com/Pedro_E_Kim/status/879177905573462016/photo/3

[@korean_gaming]

@ハチ!ハチです Japan was influenced by the culture taught by Korea

[@korean_gaming]

@ハチ!ハチです If you have pride, face up to history

[@kresnamaeda9749]

@ハチ!ハチです i agree abaot your opini that korean sword like katana

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@korean_gaming taught by China, Korea has no unique culture. Even Kimchi is probably Chinese in origin.

[@8.10mm_kiju-senpai]

所詮は日本刀と比べると品質の悪い紛い物

[@user-vy1bf4jx3v]

Koreans are wearing Chinese Clothes and using Japanese swords. Nice.

[@user-zc1oj1fn6f]

Since the Goryeo, Korea has spread their fashion culture to the Yuan and the Ming of China. It is an ancient K-Wave. That fact is recorded in various history books in China.

[@user-zc1oj1fn6f]

The Swords of Japan was handed down from ancient Korea. Japanese still use Chinese characters and Silla's Simplified texts. They lie that the Baekje's clothes of Korea are their traditional clothes.

[@user-zc1oj1fn6f]

The Japanese are wearing Korean clothes and using Korean swords. This is the truth. The Japanese are afraid that their lies will be revealed. So they disguise themselves as Westerners, and they work hard to write comments.

[@dandylion3783]

별길따라 ＞"The Swords of Japan was handed down from ancient Korea"??? 한반도는 중국과 일본 사이에 있는 단지 “길”일 뿐이야. 우리나라 사람들은 일본 문화 전파가 무조건 한반도를 거쳐서 간 것으로 착각함. 한반도 거쳐 간 것도 있고 중국대륙으로 직집 전달 된것도 있고 일본열도 자체적으로 생긴것도 있고 여러 가지가 있는데. In fact, just visit the site below, and take a look at the FIGURE of "direct sea route" between China and Japan in ancient times. Then, you will be well aware of the fact that "ancient Japan had directly interacted with mainland China, not VIA the Korean peninsula. (copy and paste the following letters) ー> Ancient Japanese & Chinese Relations WORLD HISTORY

[@user-zc1oj1fn6f]

@@dandylion3783 Oh, I never said that ancient Korea delivered everything to Japan. However, I said here that Korea delivered swords, clothes, and characters. Korea delivered Chinese characters, and also a simplified characters from Silla. The characters is now called Katakana.

[@dfdfedddd]

Japanese traditional culture is actually 70 percent imitating that of the Korean Peninsula and 30 percent imitating that of the Chinese continent.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

What Korean things did Japan imitate? I would say that Japan openly imitated Tang Chinese culture, and they admit that. Korean culture itself is a Chinese copy, even to a greater extend than the Japanese one.

[@napoleonicinfanterie6377]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 honestly in history, majority of "new things/ cultures" were just taking something nearby and simply modifying it to fit your needs or improving it. Everyone from Japan, to Korea, China, the Romans, American Aboriginals, Europeans, they all did it constantly.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@nahi27 Oh yeah? I love this topic, since first Katanas appeared in the 12th century, and first Katana looking Korean swords appeared in the end of 15th century. Even Korean Joseon Annals confirm that. So...yeah keep watching K-Dramas, but don't take them too seriously.

[@ChromeMan04]

Lol no

[@crownprice6974]

Shut up because you're an asshole except me

[@jovegajo]

Honestly, while it is interesting knowing what weapons were utilized by the different kingdoms that existed in the Korean peninsula.. once you get to Joseon, the focus of society has basically shifted away from war and into learning, and culture, etc. Korean art, pottery, and literary masterpieces are far more significant than who made what sword. Japan had many castles throughout the countryside, as it was ruled by Daimyo. Joseon had many universities throughout the countryside, as it was ruled by Literati. Both of these have their merits, and flaws.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

Korea was extremely poor though, 5% were literati, 15% were merchants and craftsmen, and 80% were the slave class who didn't even have basic rights, so its no wonder that when Imjin War began, many peasants formed gangs and started raping and pillaging villages themselves.

[@haminson5936]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 sir, I think you have a problem with your information. It was not 80% who were slaves, but 40%. And that is not why Imjin war begun. It begun by our nation trying to block the Japanese from going to China. Reading jinbirok(징비록) and see how we tried to stop them. It was the Japanese that invaded, and during that time, it was a peaceful era so our government was having a good time(they did have signs, but they didn't respond or try to make more troops or fortify cities). There was also this person who said to the king to make 100,000 troops so we could be ready for war, but the king didn't. So don't blame the people, blame the government and the king. Plus, you insult my country with those comments.

[@akma3235]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 stop hating korea on every korean video u sick fk

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@akma3235 I don't care about Korea. I only care about exposing fake history, and Korean history is full of modern revisionism and nationalistic bullshit. It needs to be exposed.

[@spritzy9188]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 "Yes, you should know that Japan taught Korea most of its culture during WW2 occupation period. Rejoice in that." This is a quote of yours in reply to another comment on this video, yet here you are talking about "exposing fake history" and "revisionism" and "nationalistic bullshit". It's hilarious. Everything you're saying is exactly the type of historical revisionist nonsense that hyper-nationalist Japanese people and weebs like to spew. I bet you think the comfort women were all voluntary prostitutes too.

[@nikhilsinha7730]

This comment section is a god damn culture war

[@marcopedro2017]

Yeah I'm seeing complains Left and right

[@jerickcristobal-orola9411]

@@marcopedro2017 well guys it's this atrocious controversy caused by self entitled douchebags and prideful egotistic turd eaters who love japanese culture and insults other asian cultures as fakes.......some of these retards are actual members of the far right wing of japan.......acting like a couple of dominance issued cult messengers molesting the truth and telling it their own way don't listen to them they're IQ is more lower than their dicks they've been jerking to jav all their lives

[@AWxCP_HymnForTheWeekend_Remix]

일본인들아 난 니들이 부끄럽다 제발 중국인처럼 행동하지마 고구려,백제,신라의 같은 뿌리를 가진 사람으로서 너무나 부끄럽다 비록 근대역사에서 문제가 있지만 근본적으로 우리는 적이 아니고 머나먼 친척이자 친구다

[@user-zc1oj1fn6f]

그렇게 따지면 온 인류가 한뿌리예요. 가족하고도 유산가지고 싸우는 판에 이길생각 안하고 귀신 시나락 까먹는 딴세상 얘기하면 어쩔? 망상소녀 보는기분이네요.

[@ehyang5858]

너무 이상적인 말인데요... 현실은 그렇지 않죠~

[@gorotv5826]

Modern Korean swordsmiths learned how to make Japanese swords in Japan and started forging them in Korea. For example, Japanese swordsmith Ichiro Matsuba taught a Korean named Moon how to make a Japanese sword, but Moon claims to the world that he is restoring a Korean sword with his own historical technique. However, modern Japanese swordsmiths use forging techniques invented in Japan during the Sintho period (New sword period) in the 16th century. The method of forging Japanese swords before that has not been handed down precisely because the Bizen school, which was the largest swordsmith group, was destroyed by the great flood, and uniform steel was used throughout the country. In other words, Koreans are restoring ancient and medieval Korean swords using the forging technique of Japanese swords invented in the 16th century. The conclusion is that all of Korea's traditional sword making techniques are Japanese sword techniques invented in the 16 century. Furthermore, Koreans had imported a large number of Japanese swords since the middle ages, and they also used swords in the 왜도(倭刀) style, which imitated Japanese swords.

[@jerickcristobal-orola9411]

and a suck up like you looks at it as if it's a bad thing?????? you live in japan you dickhead??????......no wonder there's no cure to misguiding sense of stupidity and you're a prime example of it

[@Wyvern-Jaeger]

korean sword is not popular because they killed the enemy by bows before the enemy come lol

[@dandylion3783]

not so. korean soldiers got away in haste whenever they ran short of their arrows and enemy troops advanced to their territory.

[@김규복-x1v]

한국 검이 일본것을 따라했다는 건 정말 어이가 없네요. 중국인들도 "모든것의 시작은 중국이다" 좀 적당히 했으면 좋겠네.

[@jinan_hwasal]

These people arguing bout heritage its like arguing who knows to cook rice and whos imitating whos have the best rice taste ffs

[@acrux1918]

@ハチ!ハチです Ah yes, because only ninjas use swords.

[@matthewchi5292]

@ハチ!ハチです are you dumb or something?

[@crownprice6974]

Shut up because you're an asshole except me

[@rommel3616]

@ハチ!ハチです Who is an idiot who thinks that the ninja was born in Korea? : right The Korean sword is a copy of the Japanese sword : Don't you know that humans originated in Africa, followed by Europe, Asia, China, Korea, and Japan? Didn't you learn history?

[@tupapi1665]

@@rommel3616 so if you invent something and your show that to you neighbor and he only put a little personal detail to to your invention and he start talking to everybody that he invent that and not you, i think with you logic that you wouldnt care about other person take the credit of your work and ideas 😆

[@user-iu9pr4gh9p]

Westerners and modern Japanese think that Japan was brainwashed by cartoons and animations, but in real history, most of them went to Japan through the Korean Peninsula, from Baekje, which was close to the Three Kingdoms period, from building technology to manufacturing iron-technology clothes. The Japanese who crossed the Korean Peninsula in the first place conquered the natives and formed power. If they wanted to know the origin, there is no samurai-like warrior on the Korean Peninsula? Bullshit There was a gallery in the Silla Dynasty, there was a father to fight in the Baekje Dynasty, Goguryeo was a country of warriors, Goryeo warriors were treated to a certain degree, and if you don't know, don't talk.

[@crownprice6974]

Shut up because you're an asshole except me

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

You said it, "through" Korea, Korea was a wild tungstic tribe that got taught civilization by China. Then Korea passed the Chinese knowledge to Japan, serving as a bridge, but during the Tang Dynasty, Japan opened its own gate to China, not needing Korea anymore. Koreans didn't taught Japan anything original, since Korean culture lacks originality to begin with. Just look at your martial arts and modern copy culture, you even have Japanese style Konbini stores, love hotels that you "originally call "motels", and Japanese sushi and onigiri, which you call kimbab or some crap like that. while claiming that its "traditional" Korean food. Regarding the Korean swords, I have seen them in museum, the Joseon short curved swords from the 15th century...they were poorly decorated, ugly, brittle, didn't have hamon, and look like they were made in one weekend. Show me a Katana type sword, of Korean origin, that is older than 15th century. Since first proper Katana style swords, called Tachi, appeared in Japan during the 8th century.

[@lamia197]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 You bored? Or are you a netouyo?

[@SWJun]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 go back to China u Corona

[@emperorinmu4199]

hahaha

[@dandylion3783]

a lot of korean craftsmen visit japan so as to imitate some of its cultural traditions by watching someone's example in a very short period of time, and learn absolute basics of some technics there. and then, they begin to insist that "this is the korean original, korean tradition!" tea ceremony in japanese style, karate (ー> taekwondo), kendo (ー> gumdo), or various kinds of cooking methods.

[@thdtmddus]

일본도와 가장 큰 차이가 저 칼 잠금장치라고 들음 우리나라는 저게 검집에 있는데 일본은 손잡이 쪽에 있고

[@user-vm8dl3hu4h]

오

[@kenadrian27]

Korean dramas are pretty inaccurate in their swords in terms of dimension and how they're used. Alot of the time they have wooden scabbards and are the same length and width as japanese katanas. Hwando were lighter and shorter for the most part. Like the swords in Kingdom are way too long with long handles compared to actual hwando. Same with the movie at the end of this video (Kundo Age of Rampant). That sword looks way to much like a katana. Also way too many korean dramas show them throwing away the sheathe before fighting, which is unrealistic.

[@skyereave9454]

Some of that does depend on the era depicted or the station of the person bearing the sword

[@adenyang4398]

Skye reave Korean Hwando being lighter and shorter only applies to early and mid period Joseon era, when extreme neo-Confucianists took hold of the government and began losing focus on martial pursuit. The very early period of Joseon and the last century of Goryeo dynasty likely were no different in terms of length and weight in sword designs compared to the Japanese, both were ruled by nobility strongly rooted in martial tradition. We even have accounts of swordsmithing and related technology being promoted by the government all the way up to the times of King Saejong and Saejo. (King Saejong openly rewarded a blacksmith who learned swordsmaking in Japan very handsomely). Sword length and weight increased again through the 2 conflicts Korea went through (against Japanese and Manchus), and Japanese swords and sword design continued to stay popular among Korean Hwando.

[@jintonicjapan]

fake history needs making history.

[@jintonicjapan]

@ハチ!ハチです agee with you.

[@ManBug-iu1fu]

@ハチ!ハチです yea, lets let a Japanese person tell us people what to believe

[@solohhbb9468]

when weaboos are more passionate and defensive of japan than actual japanes. . . . .

[@mar-mole-ade4797]

Yee

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

I prefer butthurt k-poppers myself.

[@kennedelacruz7836]

This is very informative video. I don't know why but some videos regarding Korean swords have so many arguments and debates. Many Pro- Japanese Katana sword said that Korea copied the style of Katana smithing while in fact it is not.

[@acrux1918]

@@lupimali9504 That has nothing to do with the original point. You're just trying to sound professional by referencing documents that aren't even related.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

I am very anti-Katana crowd, but in this case they are right, Koreans are just blatantly copying Japanese stuff here. I have seen Korean Joseon blades in a museum, they were short, ugly, of very bad quality with complitely different blade patterns and steel quiality. Yet now these modern Korean smiths produce identical Japanese blades, including the handle wrapping and scabbard design, and hamon pattern, and have balls to claim that its their original stuff...just look at Kumdo..a bootleg Kendo.

[@lamia197]

Ah, here is why we can't have nice things. Confirmation bias at its best. Not knowing the full history but reading only a small part then going on like they know the whole thing. Its funny how much there is with the Japanese and Koreans.

[@korean_communist9116]

Now I get to learn more about my heritage

[@crownprice6974]

Shut up because you're an asshole except me

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

Yes, you should know that Japan taught Korea most of its culture during WW2 occupation period. Rejoice in that.

[@nathanaelnapitupulu7552]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 yes rejoice in getting forced into a culture that you didnt want back in ww2 and learning a language that had a harder writing system than korean,and also the comfort women, and listen to the man that just pisses all over Korean culture

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@nathanaelnapitupulu7552 learn some history, Koreans barely used Hangul before the Japanese occupation, Koreans used almost purely Chinese Characters back then, which is considerably harder. Besides many Koreans chose to adopt Japanese names themselves to get a higher status, it was completely optional. p.s. Even the Koreans who adopted Japanese names, were still considered as dogs or second class citizens, so Koreans could never become "Japanese" in the eyes of the Japanese empire. The forced "japanization" is a myth. That's why you can see a lot of Korean immigrants in Japan these days, with many arriving there during the Japanese rule and deciding to settle there because life there was much better than in Korea.

[@nathanaelnapitupulu7552]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 so the forced japanization false mkay sure considering that I have studied 5 yrs of japanese occupation of Korea what I did learn was years of Korean history destroyed by Japanese army Hanbok banned speaking Korean was also banned, and you could've been sincerely punished. You could prove me wrong. I'm just glad you ain't claiming southeast Asian culture bro.

[@lupimali9504]

"The Annals of the Joseon Dynasty (朝鮮王朝實録, 조선왕조실록)" says, ・June 11, 1480: "Our people are not accustomed to use of sword or spear. In order to defend themselves from enemy's attack, they solely use bows and arrows ..." ・November 11,1592 "Our country does not have any sword arts, much less soldiers who are adept at sword skills." ・July 11, 1594 "Any sword arts have not been passed down in our country, but it is beneficial for our people of all ages to have the soldiers who try to master the skill of sword-wielding bit by bit." ・July 29, 1594: "If our soldiers will master the exquisite skill of WA entirely, then the enemy's skill is to belong to us." ・December 27, 1594: "Customarily, our people are not pleased to learn the skills introduced from other countries. Rather, they have a habit to think it ashamed to do so as a whole. However, nothing can compare with Japanese sword arts. If our soldiers keep making an effort day and night, and master the skill of Wa entirely, it means that our enemy's skill will have become the one of our own as a result." ・December 5, 1596: "Seeing our soldiers do their military exercise of swords and spears recently, I found that they practice either the skill of long spears or that of langxians,＊ and very few do sword arts." (＊langxian: 狼筅, lit."a branched, multi-tipped spear with blades attached to the branches") ・September 29, 1628: "Military orders of our country is not very strict and easily violated, so our soldiers have been spontaneously put to rout before they fight with their enemy face-to-face. Therefore, it is natural that sword skills should have very little to do with any military strategies of our troops."

[@Boongeossamanko]

Your argument is to say that Korean swords and Japanese katanas belong to China, right? lol You can see the level of education in China. You argued that spaghetti is also a native culture of China, don't people around the world mock you?

[@Boongeossamanko]

你这是什么意思？你上次不是说你不会忘记天安门而且必定找回民主主义吗 上次说要为香港示威加油的是什么? 赞成维吾尔族人独立,欢迎啊 看你用韩语说怀念刘晓波,你是好人啊 你用韩文问过"想知道西藏人民是怎么被共产党镇压的吗?" 在这里见到"法轮功"修炼者,真高兴。 对下一个集结地应该很清楚吧? 天安门相关活动进展顺利 我们的秘密协会知道，看过这篇文章的所有同志都是以中国政权垮台为目标的同志 如果我们保持耐心，中国政权将崩溃。 亲爱的同志们，民主党希望，独裁腐败政权中国，垮台! 小心被当局逮住 / 工作一结束手机就销毁

[@lupimali9504]

@@Boongeossamanko LOL ... you Korean, you don't even know that spaghetti had flowed from noodle type foods in ancient China, do you? It is said that Marco Polo brought Chinese noodle to Italy first, and then, Italians improved the food of this kind to spaghetti. Your remark: "Korean swords and Japanese katanas belong to China, right?" That's right. the Koreans (there had not existed "the Koreans" as a race in ancient times, but I will use the term "the Korean" here for the sake of convenience) eagerly followed everything cultural, every advanced technologies in ancient China. Needless to say, various weapons including SWORDS, too. Ancient Japan also followed the way of making swords first from China. Most likely, some of them were introduced directly from China (just take a look at the direct sea route between China and Japan), and others introduced VIA the Korean peninsula, from China to Japan. www.ancient.eu/article/1085/ancient-japanese--chinese-relations/ In sum, any single-handed swords with straight and two-edged blade originated in China. Meanwhile, the prototype of huge double-handed sword with curved and single-edged sword including "ōdachi (大太刀)" originated in Japan. Before Chinese general Qi Ji Guang (戚繼光) adopted the swords in Japanese style, there had existed any swords of this kind in neither Chinese mainland nor the Korean peninsula. I'll paste the same URL as I put for another comment of mine again below. Just read the article in the following site: greatmingmilitary.blogspot.com/2015/04/chang-dao.html

[@lupimali9504]

@@Boongeossamanko If someone said to the Japanese ppl, "Hey, tonkatsu (돈까스 in Korea) is derived from German schnitzel, don't you know that?", then they would reply like this: "Oh, really? Thanks, Germans, for introducing this tasty dish to Japan." Likewise, if someone said to them, "Sushi is not Japan's origin at all. Sushi originates in the Baiyue dish in ancient southern China, that is, "salted fish stored in fermented rice," then they would say, "Hmm ... I see. Thank you, China! We really enjoy it now." The Koreans, only the Koreans, will desperately try to refute the fact that they owed a lot (including various kinds of their dishes) to ancient China.

[@andyim7482]

@@lupimali9504 That is true. Many of the Asian countries did owe a lot of different kinds of dishes to China. (I'm Korean and I think so to logically speaking. The fact that china influenced many other countries. We the Koreans that refute the fact that they owed a lot to china because of the pride and things we went through in history.) But the fact that the countries around china adapted many of the products or created new things. As a example 한글(Hangul) was created during 세종대왕 (King Sejong)s rule. The studies that he did during his rule are making Korean/ Hangul writing and improving technology in this era. This doesn't mean that China owns hangul. The Korea in the past worked on producing letters to model the physical morphology of the tongue, palate and teeth. Joseon (Current Korea) made these letters not China. This means that we adapted in creating our own ways of creating things. Also the part about only the Koreans think that they would desperately try to refute the fact that they owed a lot of things to ancient China is a false statement since that is a opinion. (Heck ,I'm writing that we owed some/ many things to China even though I'm Korean.). The Hanfu and Hanbok are different if you typed it up. Since traditional Korean dress don't have embroidery and traditional Hanfu do. If you argue that Hanbok is Chinese that would be wrong since the present traditional Korean clothing is different of the Hanfu in China. Sure, back in the past the clothing of the Chinese and other Asian countries were similar. Then as time pasted the countries started to form there tradition objects or ideas that would be different. The point I want to make is that even though the Koreans/ other Asian countries owed a lot to china the fact that we know have different types of traditional food, instrument, and etc. That is different from China. (Such as kimchi that originates out of Korea when it was the time period of the 3 kingdoms. China is laying claims that kimchi is theirs though the real reason is that China made a Chinese kimchi though kimchi originates out of Korea )

[@user-iq3rz5kr1p]

도검류는 조선시대엔 주무기가 아니다보니 확실히 발전이 더뎠지. 임진왜란 이후에 일본도에 영향을받아 짧았던 곡도도 일본도처럼 길어지기도했었지만, 근데 그것도 잠깐이고 다시 주무기에서 밀려나 사실상 장식품화되어서 참 아쉬움.

[@user-zc1oj1fn6f]

칼 즉 근접전에 집중하는건 현대로 치면 그냥 재래식무기에 목매다는것 같은데요. 당연히 원거리무기발전에 힘쏟는게 자연스런 발전 방향 아닌가요?

[@user-iq3rz5kr1p]

@@user-zc1oj1fn6f 그럼요. 덕분에 신기전, 천뢰 같은 무기들이 나왔으니까요. 그냥 개인적으로 도검류를 좋아해서나온 아쉬움입니다.

[@Volfguy]

그렇죠 창이나 활이 주 무기었고, 심지어는 일본 검술에 맞먹을 정도로 멋있는 독일 검술조차도 호신술로써의 의미가 강했던 것 같습니다. 실제 전장에서는 결국 스위스 용병같이 창을 잘 쓰고 빠른 산악민족인 스위스나 기병이 주요 편제였던 유목민족이 쌨었죠. 뭔 싸무라이 문화에 그렇게 심취되어 있는지 ㅋㅋ.. 당시 몽골이 바다 건넜으면 전부 멸망했을 것들이 열도인데, 태풍 때문에 목숨 건진 줄도 모르고.

[@vc2922]

@@Volfguy 어째서 징기스칸이~~~

[@topaz1397]

중국이 도와줬데? 한국이랑 12번 싸워서 한국이 9번 이겼다... 당나라는 멸망했지

[@762forest_railway]

Here is how to make a Japanese sword kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHbCZa1-g8icm68

[@user-bb7yr7hh6s]

당나라가 아니라 수나라겠지

[@markyamato2120]

funny how this country said they invented Japanese sword

[@dandylion3783]

all the koreans r supposed to insist anything even if there r no reasonable grounds for that.

[@markyamato2120]

@@dandylion3783 yes exactly

[@KBKim-jt6uj]

Korean made Seven branch sword is No.1 treasure in Japan. You can find the sword in Japnese animes, games, movies. Seems like Japanese love Korean swords!

[@markyamato2120]

@@KBKim-jt6uj it’s made by Chinese to gave you Yamato empire

[@KBKim-jt6uj]

@@markyamato2120 No. It's not. It's Korean made. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-Branched_Sword

[@xd-hz2gf]

日本刀やら侍まで起源主張すんのはもう無敵やわ

[@KBKim-jt6uj]

Korean made Seven branch sword is No.1 treasure in Japan. You can find the sword in Japnese animes, games, movies. Seems like Japanese love Korean swords!

[@user-wr4og4mk4g]

i think everything is from korea, but still a poor country, either be vassal state or be conquer by japan

[@user-te7yx1st8h]

코로나를 제외한 모든것은 중국에서 시작되었다...가 중국인들의 생각이니까.... 언제나 그렇듯이 중국이 중국하고 있구나.

[@762forest_railway]

Here is how to make a Japanese sword kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHbCZa1-g8icm68

[@svjaos]

Koreans don't want to admit it, but we definitely followed the Japanese, but it's fundamentally different. Japan has evolved into a large scale and we have evolved into a small scale. Later, we also see a sword that extends the handle by more than 1m, but the blade itself is shorter than that of Japan. Unlike other ethnic groups, there were not many wars of aggression, and on the contrary, there were many cases of defending foreign invasions. Long-range shooting has developed and bow has developed a lot. Japan was a strong country at that time as the sword was prolonged and various swords were evolved due to the long war. On the contrary, we were a quiet country because we were united with China, but we were always troubled by Japan's frequent invasions and aftershocks. So we were strong in defense and were good at horseback riding. Therefore, the weapons of spear and waldo (knife + spear) developed rather than sword. During the Yuan Dynasty, the Yuan weapon, the sword, was also popular in Korea. It's like KPOP is in vogue these days. At that time, Yuan Dynasty weapons were in vogue. So our swords began to take many forms. After that, I was able to learn the excellence of Japanese swords through the Japanese Invasion of Korea in 1592. But we were in a different direction from Japanese swordsmanship. So the shape of the Japanese knife is a little different from ours. Knives use a lot of iron. So unlike the West, Asia has developed many spears. The West attached an ax to the spear in later generations, but we in Asia have many swords. It's the same in Korea. The spear of Japan are 4 meters long. The spear in Korea is 3M long. There were more lengths in China. For that reason, Korea developed cannons, mines, gunpowder windows and gunpowder missiles using gunpowder. And someone asked. There are Samurai, Viking, 300 Sparta, and Temple Knights in other countries, and what is there in Korea? Do you know any monks? Shaolin Temple is famous in China. However, Shaolin does not wage war for the country. We dare to say. The monks are going to war. We call it a patriotic martyr.( kzbin.info/www/bejne/inatfXlmg86Ears ) 호국 불교 사상(護國佛敎思想) 또는 호국 사상(護國思想)은 진호국가(鎭護國家), 즉 불교의 교법(敎法)으로 난리와 외세를 진압하고 나라를 지킨다는 불교 사상으로 다른 불교 국가에서는 거의 나타나지 않은 한국 특유의 불교 사상이다. ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%ED%98%B8%EA%B5%AD_%EB%B6%88%EA%B5%90_%EC%82%AC%EC%83%81 The development of weapons is a painful history. It's not a fun and happy history. Japan, China, and Korea have all developed in painful history. What we need to know from these contents is not who is strong or who is weak, but who has overcome that era and has developed so far. If it weren't for Japan, I wish it weren't for China. If it weren't for the United States, it would mean that France doesn't have Britain. Like a flower doesn't curse at a flower... Wouldn't a human being who develops diversity develop on Earth? It is not helpful for mankind to criticize, kill, and destroy each other like this.

[@sicalb8562]

Koreans saying that katana and samurai are of korean origin is the equivalent of "we wuz kangs"

[@gorotv5826]

The origin of modern Korean swordsmithing is modern Japanese swordsmithing. Koreans learned how to make Japanese swords in Japan. And the swords he's making are also Japanese style swords that were exported in large quantities from Japan to Korea and China from the 15th to 16th centuries. Unfortunately, the sword and swordplay shown in this video are fake traditions.

[@ryuhadouken2722]

So it was the Koreans who quote on quote created the katana style and then japan adopted it and modified it themselves

[@jerickcristobal-orola9411]

well Ryu Hadouken the diffrenece between the single edge swords of china, korea, and japan; is that not only the overall length of the sword that varies upon the users preference of a well constructed weapon. but how each of the blades carry a special characteristic design to utilize a specific role. like some blades are design to stab, cut, decapitate, slash, etc. but not mostly to kill. so i would say the single edge sword that was first constructed in china which is chang dao did influence some curved swords with the neighboring countries but yet again, their design and forging preferences is what makes those 3 countries unique

[@ryuhadouken2722]

jerick cristobal-orola overall the biggest differences is type of metal they used, the artwork, and most importantly style of smithing. Because a normal katana is actually softer than a korean sword simply due to different levels of carbon. Which is why when purchasing swords look for the type of metal preferably high carbon steel, and go for a high carbon level. Like 1060 or higher, reason why is very little carbon causes the sword to be very weak/bendable and is prone to chipping. High carbon is dense yet heavier. Too much carbon can cause the sword to snap due to lack of flexibility.

[@ryuhadouken2722]

Another reason why I say Koreans invented the katana style is because in China there are no records of the style. Yes there are single edged blades however not in katana standards.

[@hwachahistorychannel1617]

Actually the Japanese still used straight swords until the Mongolian invasion. The Katana was a new melding of styles of original straight sword style they got from Korea and the new curved steppe nomad blade style. It's possible the Katana is influenced by the korean sword, which also did become curved by mixing the straight hwandudaedo style and the nomadic cavalry sabres, because of course the Korean troops were also a significant part of the Mongolian led force that invaded Japan.

[@kenadrian27]

@@hwachahistorychannel1617 this is pretty innaccurate, the Tachi preceded the Mongolian invasion. Uchigatana (closer to the modern katana) evolved after the Mongol invasion and they were actually less curved than the tachi.

[@mikitadou]

A lot of it is falsified, Korea had Chinese type swords, which later were spread to Japan via Korea, then Japanese began fully concentrating on the curved blades after the 1st mongol invasion. While Korea still used Chinese type straight swords. After the imjin wars of the 16th century they adopted and poorly copied Japanese Samurai blade designs. Their king also copied Chinese army martial arts manual at that time, called Muyejebo sokjip which was the exact copy of the Chinese Jixiao Xinshu, the only difference it that King Seonjo also added some primitive samurai imitations of the 2 handed sword into the manual during the 17th, which was basically Katana, but a poorly made one.

[@gorotv5826]

There is a slight mistake. Since the 10th century, the Japanese have been using their own curved tachi. They also fought the Mongolian invasion in the 13th century with curved tachi and naginata. Later, katana, which was shorter than tachi, became popular around the 15th century because of the spread of spear fights and had nothing to do with the Mongolian invasion.

[@mikitadou]

@@gorotv5826 You are right, Tachi was developed around the 10th century. From what I have researched though, Tachi still coexisted with Japanese straight swords until 12th century. Do you have more information about the Chokuto variants?

[@KBKim-jt6uj]

Nope. Not correct. You should study more!

[@user-vy1bf4jx3v]

@Paul Kim I doubt he should, he is pretty much spot on. Any facts from your side to refute his point?

[@hmuphilly9129]

funny how korea gave japan the first start to their swords and then when the samurai rose, japan invaded korea. if joseon had similar swords such as katana why did they fear japanese swords?

[@Werner4voss]

Korea was more cavarly army compared to Japan, thus they needed shorter blades which eventually became a standard not only for the cavarly but also to the infantry. so they had a clear disadvantage during hand to hand combat due to its length

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

Because Katana was a uniquely Japanese weapon. Koreans brought Chinese technologies to Japan initially, but by 12-13th centuries Japan surpassed Korea in everything, including metallurgy.

[@user-zc1oj1fn6f]

Japan glorified the samurai so much that it promoted it to the West. They were just gangsters. Gangsters fought a territorial battle. Ninja was an assassin. Westerners know them as warriors. It's like glorifying the mafia who dominated the country.

[@user-zc1oj1fn6f]

Joseon has never been afraid of Japanese swords. What was afraid of was the rifle. At that time, there was no rifle in Joseon. Japan obtained a rifle from the wrecked Portuguese merchant ship. However, Joseon won the Imjin War. Do you think Joseon fought without swords?

[@user-zc1oj1fn6f]

Japanese samurai fought numerous territorial battles. However, Joseon has protected the country from numerous invasions. There is no objective evidence that samurai swords are better than Joseon swords. Don't judge by false images of samurai.

[@jeanmiyu6904]

I'm sure that Korean swordsmith learnt how to make a sword at KZbin videos of Japan's ones. In case of SKorea, their wishful thought often becomes a part of Korean history. LMFAO

[@ManBug-iu1fu]

Its sickening to see how many Japanese and Chinese people are in this comment thread tearing Korean culture apart as if Korea simply copied their entire culture off of these two countries. All three nations have influenced each other end of story. If you people argue that Korea is simply a little China then go fuck yourself because its not true and also, if it were, why does Korea exist then? Korea has a distinct culture and language just like China and Japan so respect that.

[@lupimali9504]

Man Bug ・"The Gwanggaeto Stele (広開土王碑, 광개토왕릉비)" says, "Originally, Shilla together with Baekje had long been vassal states of Goguryeo, and paid tributes to her. Still, WA (i.e. ancient Japan) crossed the water to defeat Shilla, Baekje and Gaya in 391. Thenceforth, WA made them her subject nations." (百残新羅旧是属民由来朝貢而倭以辛卯年来渡海破百残□□(加羅)新羅以為臣民) ・Similarly, such a description as this can be found in "Sung Shu, or The Book of Song ((宋書)," one of the official Twenty-Four Histories of imperial China (compiled in 504): "As the king of WA proclaimed to be 'great general subjugating eastern region (安東大将軍)' who militarily rule Silla, Mimana, Gaya, Jinhan and Bohan (?), Emperor Shun of Song (宋順帝) was obliged to obey his demand, and ordained him the estate in the result." (使持節都督倭新羅任那加羅秦韓慕韓六国諸軍事安東大将軍倭国王) ー"Sung Shu: Ibanden, Wakokujo (宋書 夷蛮伝 倭国条)" Incidentally, it is said that Emperor Shun of Song eliminated both Goguryeo and Baekje from these regions on strategic grounds. ・Also, "The Book of Sui (隋書)" says as follows: "Both Shilla and Baekje revered WA as a great nation with a plenty of rare and precious things. Therefore, they would often send their envoys to Wa respectively." (新羅百濟皆以倭為大國 多珍物並敬仰之 恒通使往來) All the descriptions cited above had been written (or recorded) by either the Chinese or the Korean himself (광개토대왕), not by the Japanese, OK? ・Explanation in a textbook used in several Western countries: 1. Germany It was in the 4th century that ancient Japan established the first foothold in the continental region of China. Thenceforth, Japan had held a ruling position in the Korean Peninsula for 300 years. However, Japan lost fight for ruling of the peninsula to Tang dynasty. 2. the US: Japan governed the southern part of the Korean Peninsula around the 3rd or 4th centuries. 3. the UK: Japan had held sway over the Korean Peninsula since the year 366 AD till 522. 4. Poland: China and Japan fought over the territorial right to the Korean Peninsula.

[@ManBug-iu1fu]

@@lupimali9504 and this proves? What? The point is that Korea still developed its own unique culture though influenced by neighbors, it is still unique. Goguryeo is a northern Korean kingdom.

[@ManBug-iu1fu]

@@lupimali9504 where did you even get your info? Nobody has ever suggested the idea that Japan had a foothold in Korea in the 3rd century until you. Korea was always Korea in the 3rd and 4th centuries, no Japanese establishments were present in the peninsula at that time.

[@bathysphere1070]

The pentagonal blade idea is very interesting. That's the first time I've heard of an asymmetric blade profile.

[@mikitadou]

Its much easier to make and requires much less skill. As they didn't know the real technologies implemented by the Japanese, Koreans copied it as much as possible design wise, but they didn't know the details about the deferential heat treatment.

[@jerickcristobal-orola9411]

@@mikitadou saying that the koreans copied the shape & design of the blade is the MOST INSULTING WORD ANY DOUCHE WOULD SAY what the hell !!!!!!! It look similar but no such truth would say they look the same physically.

[@mikitadou]

@@jerickcristobal-orola9411 koreans definitely tried to make it as similar as possible at least. This hwando appeared around 15th century, and later became full copy of a Katana, with Japanese style handle wrapping and sheath, most likely after they saw Japanese using it during the imjin wars. A copy is a copy, no need to feel bad about it.

[@crownprice6974]

Shut up because you're an asshole except me

[@lamia197]

@@mikitadou What? hwandos appear early as 100BC in Korea and the earliest one in Japan is 250AD.

[@JohnDoe-mx6xh]

Note: never watch this vid when you already put the lights out.

[@richmondlandersenfells2238]

Would love to get my hands on one!

[@bom5242]

우리나라는 사실 활의 민족이라 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 칼이 좀 후달리긴함.....

[@Nogu3]

Its a sharp piece of metal, if it did its job it did its job, stop arguing for goodness sake.

[@cigars2610]

Korea the legendary of bow, China the legendary of spear and Japan the legendary of sword

[@dangin5]

What movie is the fight scene beginning at 9:20?

[@hwachahistorychannel1617]

Gundo: Age of Rampant

[@alexalee1827]

K-drama: 육룡이 나르샤/ Six Flying Dragons. This drama is interesting.

[@gatsbyjay1707]

@ハチ!ハチです 일본이 전세계 문명의 발상지라 그러지 그래ㅋㅋ

[@crownprice6974]

Shut up because you're an asshole except me

[@Boongeossamanko]

@ハチ!ハチです Are you an idiot? The technique of making knives was spread to Korea and Japan through China. Before Japan trades with China, it is not influential that Korea spreads smelting technology to Japan? According to your logic, katana is also a Chinese copy product. Think Human. Mother-of-pearl artefacts are Korean-specific techniques that have been propagated to Japan. Is Japanese mother-of-pearl technology Korean?

[@gbrkura4467]

The weapons of Korea, which was a vassal state of China, were Chinese, such as short bows and straight swords. This is a Japanese sword that was given to the Tokugawa Shogun as a souvenir during the Edo period by a Korean delegation sent to celebrate with him. This was a very valuable weapon in Korea, and since there was no weapon that could cut without bending or breaking, they decided to make something similar to a Japanese sword. That is the Japanese sword-like thing that appears in this video (imitation)

[@salvadormacias5798]

I have a korean sword it is called a hangukdo korean sword it says it drives a evil fate away I found picture that look like mine but the top is always different from all the swords I seen any info

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

So the name of your Korean sword is literally "Korean sword". I wouldn't be surprised though.

[@salvadormacias5798]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 no

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@salvadormacias5798 hangukdo means Korean sword in Korean...

[@crownprice6974]

Shut up because you're an asshole except me

[@hyunew]

자랑스러운 한국 전통무기와 갑옷 역사들 많이 번역해서 올려주세요

[@762forest_railway]

Here is how to make a Japanese sword kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHbCZa1-g8icm68

[@sicalb8562]

Lol

[@PatrioticKoreanAmerican]

What kinds of swords and spears do Goryeo soldiers use?

[@williamenriquesanchezcolme753]

Great video, I learned about korean swords with your documentary film. Thank you. On the other hand, the correct word is oxidation.

[@762forest_railway]

Here is how to make a Japanese sword kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHbCZa1-g8icm68

[@Hamham-6]

일본아 생각을 해봐 한국에 검이 없었을 것 같냐?없었을 것 같냐고 뭐가 배아파버 일본도 뺏는다고 그러는거냐?일본도가 조선보다 좋잖아 그리고 한국은 검보단 활이지

[@user-sf9pz6fg3e]

칼은 그냥 칼 일뿐 그 상도 그 이하도 아님.. 그러나 칼을 만드는 그 손길과 장인에 열정은 존중 받아야해... 칼날에 정점은 그 누구도 접근하기 어려울 정도로 어렵고 이해하기 힘들기에 지금것 물건을 두고 회자 되는것 같다. 칼날에는 날각이란 존재하지 않으며 그 끝은 평이다. 진심코 각이란 존재하지 않는다. 이것을 인정하지 않는다면 결코 칼날에 끝을 볼수 없다.

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

The weapons choreography in K movies make me cringe. Same story with most C movies.

[@danyun717]

More Hwacha please!

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@doremifasolasido2265 He is right though. If you look at Korea today, even now they are openly copying Japan, Seoul is like mini-Tokyo, with everything from love hotels to konbini shops with onigiri, curry rice, and sushi. I won't even go into the vending machines and blatant copies of Japanese drinks and modern culture. Even Korean martial arts are bootlegs, kumdo? Teakwondo? Yudo? lol common.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@doremifasolasido2265 what? I am not even a fan of Japan, just stating the facts, please try to argue with anything that I have mentioned in my previous post, it should be hilarious.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@doremifasolasido2265 yeah? how about onigiri, sushi rolls, kendo, hapkido, teakwondo/tang soo do, etc. All those things are now being presented as "ancient" korean culture, but it was taught to Korea by Japan 80 years ago. Prove that these things existed in Korea before the Japanese annexation, you can't, I triple checked, and there is not a single evidence to back that up. Stop watching historical fantasy Korean dramas.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@doremifasolasido2265 See, you just copy Japanese and Chinese things and give them Korean names. Kimbap ...old record...lol sure, show me.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@doremifasolasido2265 Then how can you say that Korea taught anything to Japan? They just passed the "package". They didn't teach anything original to the Japanese.

[@user-nt5xq9mh4b]

It was used as high-quality iron ore from the Chosun continent such as Gaya, and produced world-class swords, "Koryo sword" and "Chosun sword," with its own smelting method. This is because the design and smelting method are completely different. It is true that it was spread to Japan because the royal families of Baekje took power in Japan. Westerners, the history books you've seen are published by scholars and institutions influenced by Japanese and Chinese. So I hope you guys don't trust them too much.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

aww poor Koreans, everything is influenced by everyone to make you look bad right? haha what a joke. Sometimes you have to look reality in the eyes, and turn off your Koreans historic TV shows and read actual documents and records from other countries, all of them confirm that Chinese technologies were the cradle of civilization in Asia, and reached Japan through Korea, but Japan soon surpassed Korea in every single way, by 14th century, Japan got much stronger and more developed than Koreans, and until this day it didn't change.

[@pauloh7631]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 says mr "i dont hate koreans"

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@pauloh7631 I don't hate Koreans, but Korean historic TV shows are a joke. Speaking about inferiority complex...Why its so hard to accept your real nomadic tungstic roots?

[@johnthiam2446]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 Dont disgrace the true tungusic root, they cant even beat Manchus.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@johnthiam2446 What do you mean by true tungstic roots? I didn't try to disgrace anyone. Just saying that they should accept their roots instead of trying to copy the Chinese and Japanese cultural aspects.

[@user-ip2xp4mo2q]

The kids who don't even know history are playing around. lol🤣🤣🤣

[@user_sdkdbijqlketg]

우리 전통도검도 접쇠를 했나??? 금시초문이네.. 철광석의 질이 좋아서 바로 형태를 잡고 열처리했다고만 들었는데 그리고 조선시대는 도검은 거의 발달을 못한 수준이었고 무를 천시하고 문을 중시한데다가 그 무술이라는 것도 활을 중요시해서 활과 조총 쪽으로 발달했는데

[@user-ux4ob7wp5q]

Did you know Koreans actually taught the Japanese how to live and eat? They were eating horses, not riding them before. The Japanese won’t admit it because they’re too embarrassed

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

I wouldn't be so proud. Korea still eats dogs, and before they were taught civilization by China, Koreans were sharing wives and dancing around bon fires to ask for rain. Check your Tungustic roots. They still live like that.

[@dandylion3783]

차욱제 学学历史 你们的国家以前是中国的附属国. 在中国面前韩国的统治者只能称王不能称帝. 韩国还是中国的附庸国，每年都要向中国朝贡，中国的文化更是韩国上流社会争相模仿的对象， 比如古代韩国只有上层人士才会写汉字，而韩文是底层人士的代表. 如今韩国独立了，发现没有自己文化了，开始喧宾夺主抢夺中国的文化了吗？真是可悲的让人感到恶心啊. 中国是四大文明古国. 韩国只会偷窃中国文化. 跟韩国吵架太简单. 因为韩国就是个没有主权的小国家. 没有文化历史. 什么都没有的韩国.

[@avicii6379]

Korean lies have begun. First of all, there were no horses in Japan. Horses were brought to Japan from Mongolia. They ate hard fruits such as horse chestnuts, oaks, walnuts, chestnuts, and acorns. Furthermore, rice cultivation did not come from Korea. Based on excavation results, Japanese rice cultivation can be traced to 6,700 years ago for upland rice and 3,200 years ago for paddy rice, but rice cultivation on the Korean peninsula is 1,500 years old, making it impossible for archaeology to trace it through the peninsula. Korean upland rice is unknown. It is common knowledge, even among Chinese researchers, that rice cultivation was introduced directly from mainland China to Japan Analysis of paddy rice genes shows that there are eight types of genes from A to H in RM1. China has all eight species. Of the eight species, B is the most abundant, followed by A. The Korean Peninsula has seven of these species, of which B is absent. Japan has A, B, and C out of the eight, with B being the most common. A is the second most abundant. In other words, the possibility that Japanese rice was introduced via the Korean Peninsula is zero.

[@hbkim8195]

When the Japanese colonized the Korean Peninsula, they took many books and ancient artifacts from Korea to Japan. There are far more Korean relics in Japan than in Korea.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

So? Look at how many things Korea learned from Japan thanks to the WW2 annexation. You got from Japan much more than Japan got from you.

[@kaydenyoon1371]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 That is like saying "Look at how much the Indians (from the Asian country of India) learned from the British!" Yes the Brits brought their military expertise into India, but they still caused one of the harshest famines in human history, the Great Famine (Okay this is arguable, but still it was pretty bad.) Or "Look at how much the Polish/Hungarians/Ukrainians/etc. learned from the Soviet Union." or maybe "Look at how much the Polish learnt from the Nazis." The point is, no matter how much you think Korean history and culture is fake, and I'll respect your opinion because you can think whatever you want to think, no matter how ignorant it is, you can't make these outrages claims that disregard human suffering and the daily struggles for the Koreans during their time under Japan's colonial rule.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@kaydenyoon1371 Don't compare Ancient Indian Civilization, one of the top 5 most influential in the world, to Korea lol. Next you will compare Ancient Rome to Jamaica.

[@kaydenyoon1371]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 I'm comparing 18th-20th Century India, yet you still haven't denied the fact that you are ignoring simple history.

[@kaydenyoon1371]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 And I used different comparisons just in case if you didn't appreciate the other ones. Which compare more recent regimes.

[@Sylentmana]

China and Japan get all the attention in regards to weapons and martial arts, but Korea deserves some love and appreciation as well.

[@lupimali9504]

Agreed. Historically, neither any weapons nor martial arts had so far been thought highly of in Korea. Rather, the Koreans had long abhorred those ones as "barbaric." To be short, intellectual men or the learned called "seonbi (선비)" had been greatly esteemed, while military officers or soldiers, on the contrary, were made light of in the society of Korea for a long time, much less martial artists or weapons! Likewise, any craftworkers or artisans have been usually slighted in Korea, where people tend to regard their tasks as lowly occupation. Thus, it is not until kendo, karate, samurai or ninja became popular the world over that the Koreans began to focus on these demonstrations of martial arts or exhibitions of weapons. The same goes for Sado (茶道, Japanese traditional tea ceremony), Kado (華道, flower arrangement in traditional Japanese style)) or Origami (折紙, paper craft in Japanese way). Shortly after something produced (or improved) in Japan has become popular abroad, the Koreans swiftly copy those, and would begin to assert that it originated in ancient Korea on the embarrassingly thin grounds.

[@skyereave9454]

@@lupimali9504 I wonder if that has to do with neo-confucianist ideals in that were so prevalent in the latter dynasties, especially Joseon.

[@adenyang4398]

Skye reave Neo-Confucianist (to be specific the Cheng-zu branch) being dominant and martial pursuit being looked down upon in Korean society and culture was only during the early-mid and late Joseon eras. The first century of Joseon rule was actually led by a mix of Goryeo nobles and intellectuals, who all still had a background of putting martial pursuit in very high esteem. A coup at the end of the 15th century by extreme neo-Confucianists changed all of that however.

[@acrux1918]

@@lupimali9504 *laughs in archery*

[@hoanglinhle4468]

@@acrux1918 Ya, Archery did very well when Japanese pirate raiding Korean, until Ming Dynasty send armies to help those Japanese fight again Korean ... Wait, sorry, another way around.

[@tupapi1665]

What a good japanese Katanas 🤩🤩

[@Westhoust]

This sword is made with two or one type Steel?

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

Originally probably 1, korean metallurgy is a joke.

[@richardlew3667]

Why bother carrying a triangle-based sword that cuts only flesh when you already have a hexagonal-based sword that can cut through bone and armor?

[@YunSeung]

Triangular blades were better for matt cutting.

[@foxholeantman6223]

Better against soft leather armor

[@matthewpham9525]

Swords cannot cut through armor, armor is more effective than swords 90% of the time.

[@josephpark6502]

Triangle would be easier to make and therefore cheaper. So it was the common sword, whereas the hexagon one needed more skill to produce

[@richardlew3667]

@ハチです ハチ！ My professor from the East Asian Arts and Culture institute pointed out that the sword making technique originated from China. Like many other Chinese inventions, it would need to go through Korea in order to reach Japan. Therefore, the sword was first introduced to Korea by China and then to Japan.

[@velazquezarmouries]

that v shaped anvil is quite ingenious

[@velazquezarmouries]

@ハチです ハチ！ also where did i said anything that could trigger that answer

[@jaehanpark7826]

@@velazquezarmouries Hes a classic Japanese nationalist who copy pastes the same answer all over the internet. The saddest part is that at least Chinese nationalists are oftentimes incentivized by their government, meanwhile, dudes like these legit just go this out of their own choice.

[@velazquezarmouries]

@@jaehanpark7826 also Japanese nationalists are often not Japanese

[@jaehanpark7826]

@@velazquezarmouries yea, they're weaboos looking for a japanese wife lol

[@user-88CAT]

@ハチ!ハチです 이색기는 닌자가 뭐 대단하다고 온 게시판에 닌자 부심부리고 자뼈졌냐ㅋㅋ

[@faisalabdulaziz6956]

This is funny🤣

[@heroarias2059]

이게 뭔데. 왜 나도 모르는걸 니가 아는데 아 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@762forest_railway]

Here is how to make a Japanese sword kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHbCZa1-g8icm68

[@youwayo]

Jingeom vs Katana

[@mikitadou]

Jingum is basically a Japanese katana. they appeared around the 17th century after the Imjin War.

[@min-gyukim6266]

@@mikitadou Jingum refers to all the swords that are sharpened enough to cut things. For example, if a western sword is sharp enough to cut somethings, that can also be considered to Jingeom. It is a general term of "swords" in Korean. It does not refer to specific kinds of swords. So If you are saying that there is a specific historical record about it, that's a lie. Also, the sword that you are talking about is called Hwando, and it has first appeared around AD 500 at Goryu in Korean history. And then we modified it for better performance BEFORE Imjin War. Also, the origination of the curved-shaped blades in Asia is still debatable, but many historians believe they were invented in Mongolia and spread to all other countries around them.

[@KBKim-jt6uj]

@@mikitadou Lmfao. Dou you even know what is the meaning of Jingum?

[@abdulmueed5819]

This is so similar to Japanese sword making! You can tell how they exchanged ideas and technologies and adapted them to suit their own needs and tastes

[@lupimali9504]

・"The Annals of the Joseon Dynasty (朝鮮王朝實録, 조선왕조실록)" ① 15 May, 1487: "Any Japanese swords stored in the arsenal, even lower quality ones of those, are extremely sharp. Accordingly, it is not a good idea to sell these swords off thoughtlessly. Indeed, each arm is in a reflection of the martial spirit of Japan." (軍器寺藏倭刀雖下品, 甚鋭利, 實軍國重器, 輕易和賣未便) ② 17 June, 1593: "More likely our blunt swords are mere tree branches, and are no more than a child's toy in comparison with Japanese swords. Our swords are possibly scraped like hemp by Japanese swords." ・Yi Ik (李瀷), "Seonghosaseol (星湖僿說, 성호사설)" "We have iron and furnaces of our own. However, both our swords and mirrors are no match for the wisdom of WA (i.e. ancient Japan). All the craftsmen in my country, in comparison with other foreign craftsmen, are regarded as worldly low-down ones."

[@Boongeossamanko]

你这是什么意思？你上次不是说你不会忘记天安门而且必定找回民主主义吗 上次说要为香港示威加油的是什么? 赞成维吾尔族人独立,欢迎啊 看你用韩语说怀念刘晓波,你是好人啊 你用韩文问过"想知道西藏人民是怎么被共产党镇压的吗?" 在这里见到"法轮功"修炼者,真高兴。 对下一个集结地应该很清楚吧? 天安门相关活动进展顺利 我们的秘密协会知道，看过这篇文章的所有同志都是以中国政权垮台为目标的同志 如果我们保持耐心，中国政权将崩溃。 亲爱的同志们，民主党希望，独裁腐败政权中国，垮台! 小心被当局逮住 / 工作一结束手机就销毁

[@lupimali9504]

@@Boongeossamanko Funnily enough, you Koreans have a really bad habit to bring up some topics which are totally irrelevant to the current issues. Even if you have had no interest in those matters in your daily lives before, or, even if you have not been concerned with any issues of violation of human rights such as Tiananmen incident, Hong Kong matters, Uyghur or Tibet in your everyday lives at all before, you suddenly refer to these issues in order to insult China. The same goes for the topics of Fukushima, Hiroshima, or Nagasaki. You Koreans have frequently brought up these matters just for the purpose of bashing Japan, over and over again. Additionally, as I stated before, I'm neither the Chinese nor the Japanese, OK?

[@andyim7482]

@@lupimali9504 Hey not all Koreans are like that. I mean china is amazing country if you look at history. My pride in Korea is strong but that doesn't mean I'm frequently sending hate comments to China and Japan. If I would do so I wouldn't be getting along with Chinese friends or Japanese friends at that. Also historically everybody back then started wars. What's the point when everyone's just going to keep hating each other and not develop.

[@jintonicjapan]

in japan, thousands of katanas made over 500years ago exists now. are there some sort of swords in KOREA? I don' t believe.

[@acrux1918]

Because Japan destroyed almost all of them during the occupation.

[@jintonicjapan]

이민형 hahaha.nice reasoning.great!

[@jintonicjapan]

이민형 haha. is there any papers or mouth to mouth legends abt korean cultures?? haha. fake.

[@ManBug-iu1fu]

@@jintonicjapan stfu

[@ManBug-iu1fu]

@@jintonicjapan wow, what a great way to deny facts. Wheres your proof that the Japanese didn't?

[@user-nt5xq9mh4b]

It was used as high-quality iron ore from the Chosun continent such as Gaya, and produced world-class swords, "Koryo sword" and "Chosun sword," with its own smelting method. This is because the design and smelting method are completely different. It is true that Japan had many blades on one side, and then, this is because the royal families of Baekje took control of Japan. That's why Japanese swords are the mainstays of "knife" with one-edged blades that were not developed as technology at the time, but on Koryo and Josun ,it is developed that technology to make double-edged swords. But the history books your foreigners saw are awkard. These are only those published by scholars and institutions influenced by Japan and the China So, you only know from the book's point of view. I hope you write books or video of showing by another point

[@znpsl]

환도랑 일본검이 똑같다고하는건 눈이 삔거지 칼날부터 손잡이 , 패용 , 장식 , 제작법이 다 다른데

[@TheShojima]

I love samurai sword!

[@user-in2hf8pu5m]

また日本の文化を盗んでる

[@alchemistjeff]

Korea is the best blah blah blah

[@toddyabror956]

Looks like katana from Japan.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

its because Korean copied it, and now trying to historically appropriate it, even in modern K-dramas they started using Japanese weapons and Japanese behavior more often.

[@tanzaniaafrica1680]

Perhaps we shouldn't compare, but compared to the method used to make Japanese swords, the method used to make Korean swords is far too shabby. Furthermore, when I was in Japan, I was able to learn in detail about the manufacturing methods of Japanese swords from ancient times to the present through a large amount of old records and materials, but there were no old or new records regarding Korean swords written even in Chinese.

[@tulosegaslimalama3487]

japanese forgery is far away better, but is good to know tha the katanas comes from Korean sword making.

[@user-vy1bf4jx3v]

Katana came from 9th century Taichi. Korea didn't have curved swords until 16th century, the end of Japanese-Korean War.

[@julienaubert871]

Each of the historical materials discovered on the Korean Peninsula, mentioned are generally treated as a forgeries in the study of history because the bibliography which was required to compile the history fact is not reliable and is indistinct.

[@hwachahistorychannel1617]

Thank you for taking interest in Korean swords.

[@julienaubert871]

@@hwachahistorychannel1617 That forging work was my specialty field.

[@zionismkills]

@@julienaubert871 Which documents are considered forgeries?

[@julienaubert871]

@@zionismkills There's so much to say, I can't write it all.

[@zionismkills]

@@julienaubert871 You're quiet the historian

[@jaysontv125]

China is the first use sword follow korean and japan but the most beautiful sword is came from japan cause sword is not a tool but its a soul unlike china and korea but first originated from china :)

[@dandylion3783]

sorry but i dont agree with u. katana is supposedly a little bit too idealized on the whole. weapon is a mere tool after all. similarly, bushido, or the spirit of samurai, seems too lionized

[@imagine_8681]

Everything is Koreans, China and Japan was created by korea

[@Fate-Grand_Order]

와 시바 좋아요

[@762forest_railway]

Here is how to make a Japanese sword kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHbCZa1-g8icm68

[@dattebayo10]

wow same forging of the Japanese swords.

[@andrewwoo3906]

ハチ!ハチです The Yayoi got their steel forging and metallurgy from Baekje and Gaya both Korean kingdoms. Even Japanese and Korean historians agree that Japanese sword making is from Korea just like how a majority of Korean culture is from China 이상한 말 좀 하지마세요

[@ManBug-iu1fu]

@ハチ!ハチです why post this comment over and over? You're such a moron. Simply ignorant and too proud to admit that Japan was heavily influenced by Korea and China

[@jintonicjapan]

@ハチ!ハチです yeah. korean is pretending to be japanese when making sushi or even making swords. haha.

[@j.m2781]

@@andrewwoo3906There was no china back then, it was only the Turkic, Xianbei, Xiongnu, Jurchen, Khitan, Mongol and Korean kingdoms back then, today's chinese ancestors are the Hua who were the lowest in the societal ladder of every kingdom.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

Yep, Japanese taught them many things during the WW2 occupation period.

[@33yoshidai96]

Korea imitates Japanese sword lol.

[@ManBug-iu1fu]

Nope, the Japanese completely copied the Chinese and Koreans

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@@ManBug-iu1fu Not true, Japanese were learning Chinese technologies via Korea in the early history. After Japan has developed it surpassed Korea in all aspects, Study some history.

[@ManBug-iu1fu]

@@wudangmasterlee8123 based on your comment, it seems as though you think cultural exchange only exists in Korea. What about Bonsai? Something made in China but passed onto Japan. Why aren't you attacking Japanese people? Why is Korea always the scapegoat? Why aren't you attacking the English for "stealing" gothic literature? Don't you understand how dumb you are? Cultural exchange leads to blend and mixture of cultures and you clearly lack the knowledge to realise that.

[@wudangmasterlee8123]

@kelly yeom That's the thing, Koreans give themselves too much credit...what Korean culture did Japan imitate? Japan has openly imitated Chinese Tang dynasty culture, and always admit to it with no problems. Koreans though...they think that they taught China now lol

[@KBKim-jt6uj]

Korean made Seven branch sword is No.1 treasure in Japan. You can find the sword in Japnese animes, games, movies. Seems like Japanese love Korean swords!

[@jungsublee674]

Around 1490s... japan attacked korea, then Japanese soldiers had taken many korean craftsman to japan. 1990s most Japanese historians admmited this fact, but japanese govern doesn't want to admit it this day. Theses craftsman were potter , fabric designers, blacksmith, sword craftsman. Theses sword craftsmans started to make sword in japan. Sword craftsmans was ignored in korea at that time, but japan treated them like nobility because their skill was amazing to japan. They could concentrate to do their job well because japan treat them really good, then they developed japanese sword. When people watch 1970s ,1960s japanese samurai movie, somentime people can find samurais talking about Josun sword in movie. Josun is 1490s korea. I think 1970s japanese people was more honest than this day. I m not talking about korea being best, just I want to say history. Hoistorically korea had high quality ironstone from ancient time, so korea exported ironstone to china and japan. That ironstone was really good for making weapon like sword, so korea had long history about making sword skill. Before 1490s, japanese samurai liked korean sword. That is history.