Traditional Remedies vs. Modern Science - The Jim Jefferies Show

Jim speaks with a traditional South African healer about his approach to medicine and his issues with Western doctors.
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[@austinndyetabula5274]

As someone well-versed in South African accents, the healer says "stop eating burgers" not "bagels"

[@RmcBlueSky]

Does it make a difference?

[@jennifermcgoldrick6323]

Blue Sky well kinda. Burgers are universally known as associated with America. Much more so than bagels which is a nyc and other urban American cities’ thing.

[@bookashkin]

@@RmcBlueSky Yes, it makes a difference. Only bagels come with schmutz :)

[@acchaladka]

bookashkin Eww, I hope to hell not. Or maybe your Yiddish needs some improvement and you meant schmear?

[@thumbwarriordx]

Holy shit you're right.

[@mohamedbabiker6653]

"You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? - Medicine." - Tim Minchin

[@honuman39]

That's a fun bumper sticker. Too bad it's not so simple.

[@deltav864]

You show me that it works and how it works and when I recover from the shock I will take a compass and carve "Fancy that" on the side of my c*ck.

[@deltav864]

@@ichijofestival2576 You should watch the full version of Tim Minchin's Storm, not only do I think you'll enjoy it, but it also summarises your comment in this little rhyme that I've often used: "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved."

[@Horny_Fruit_Flies]

Mohamed Monamed People really underestimate how much "traditional" remedies are included in modern medicine. And by "traditional" I just mean old remedies. Some of them really worked, and with the development of the scientific method we could test them and make sure. Everything else left doesn't work, and makes up the contemporary "traditional medicine" market.

[@battlesheep2552]

“Look, this traditional remedy works better than any medicine science has come up with” Scientist: “cool, can i have a look?” Scientist then identifies the active ingredient and refines it into pill form, making a medicine more powerful and safer than the traditional remedy.

[@kerch-e]

I love how genuine and to the point you are when you talk with people.

[@stephk.c.2674]

I did my biochemistry degree in South Africa and some research was on testing how effective these treatments were. A couple worked but dosage was always off.

[@sammaloneNZ]

Spiritual doctor at 2:11 with the smartwatch cracks me up

[@ohyash]

What a catch xD

[@jelkehuisman]

"If they were cured, they wouldn't need to see me" Best line of this entire video XD

[@regisglass5464]

While i greatly dislike faith healers due to them being blatant liars, he does have a point in that it seems more about selling to the patient than it is curing him. It's quite dehumanizing to people when even the doctors see them as nothing more than walking dollar signs courtesy of _viva viagra._

[@tommerker8063]

to be fair not every traditional healing method is a scam just as not every doctor is a salesman

[@alexandercanella4479]

It's not the fault of the doctors. Its administrative, drug prices, etc. Our high drug prices do have one major benefit though. We pour tons of money into research and development compared to other countries. Which is why we develop about 1/3 of drugs and treatments worldwide.

[@admirnaruto]

Hey it's not that bad in all countries ... honestly most of Europe, even the poor parts, aren't so shitty about helping people. Simply put I have health care plan fully paid by my work, but if I were jobless, I could just put in paperworks, and the country would cover my health care for as long as I'm officially searching for a job. And I come from a shitty small relatively poor country, that also has some level of corruption, but in the end those fuckers at the top can't make money from me if I'm dead.

[@ameliecarre4783]

@@tommerker8063 Scam would mean intentional deceit, and often traditional healers sincerely believe in what they're doing. The point is, does it work? Does it work better than doing nothing? If it can't show that it does, that's bullshit. If it can, no nead to call it "traditional" or whatever, it's medecine, quite simply.

[@l.starcke5063]

Right the 3 minutes max. they seem to have for every patient are a joke too. Healers while not a replacement for real medical treatment in a lot of cases, are all about the positive placebo mentality

[@kenneth6996]

Do let us know how it goes with the bark Jim, I have a friend who wouldn't mind to know

[@ChuckNorrisCanSeeU]

We know that "friend" is in fact you KENNETH. WE KNOW!

[@belliotrungy9107]

Kenneth don't listen to the haters true friends care and share their darkest secrets. Good for you for being there for your friend.

[@ifartmagic]

_I am groooot !?!_

[@IanPatrickOfficial]

1:43 "This feels like the beginning of an episode of locked up abroad." Hahah. . .

[@antonio39776]

I don't understand why Jim isn't everywhere these days?

[@kayomholt-montague7661]

So glad Jim Jefferies has his own show, but I wish he were on more nights. His brand of comedy is refreshing in this day of non-stop Drumpf coverage, 24/7!

[@Low_violin]

"I've got my weekend plan" NOOOO JIM remember how it ended back in Amsterdam???

[@mostmelon]

I used to think corn hole was a dirty term until I actually saw someone play and realized it was a game.

[@acesn8s89]

Just in case you're not joking and this might save you some embarrassment in the future: Corn hole IS a "dirty term", thats where the game's name comes from. its the kinda politer term for a-hole or (as a verb) a-f-ing

[@jeremysiegel2961]

Corn hole is a game, corn holing however... :D

[@jelletherandomhuman2864]

In the Netherlands we have the holy medicen it works always

[@DaveLugo79]

"Ohhhhhh shit." I almost had a heart attack at that one.

[@Ang.0910]

He just got the hackiest dude he could find to make him look stupid 😂

[@CUlataKatie]

ahhhh!! omg the virginity explanation lmao couldn’t be more wrong fucking hilarious i live for jim jeffries

[@holmeed]

'moms cunts good again so daddy is going to stay' gold

[@GamingBogart]

VIVA VIAGRA !!!

[@APerson-hn8rm]

"Insert quote" 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂

[@tierefuerimmer9635]

I'm in the middle as I'm German American and in Germany they're more open about herbal medicine which I tend to use to deal with my allergies and anxiety and they work. However I also got vaccinated against Covid bc herbs won't prevent Covid

[@bigpapichampagne745]

He said burgers not bagels ...bagels ain't a thing in black South African

[@kumzanova]

Should have tried the piles thing, there's more to these healers than western medicine can understand sometimes, personally know a few people who are only alive because traditional healers helped where medical doctors couldn't. Two cents worth

[@poorboi8093]

4:36 lol

[@shiv4229]

If you’re still in SA, let me know I’m keen to meet you!!

[@opinionatedbachelor5803]

Front and back, both need repair and oiling.

[@palesa2906]

80%? Where did you get the number from?

[@truthseeker2275]

I think the same place as the ice lolly is going.

[@stevedgrossman]

Stop eating bagels!!! LOL

[@OnyxLee]

One reason to promote South Africa's traditional medicine is, its form of Viagra doesn't involve killing tigers, sharks, rhinos and such.

[@skyhigh2118]

If there'd be schools teaching and certifying traditional health care, it'd work as good, if not better than western medicine. But the pharma tycoons won't allow that

[@redchic]

For those who believe they're cured and they're suffering less, people shouldn't mock what they haven't experienced.... Even if they had the same treatment, not everyone has the same dna and won't react the same.

[@acesn8s89]

DNA doesnt affect how you respond to the vast majority of drugs. And honestly most of the time people claim to have been healed by traditional medicine its either because the problem would have resolved on its own, it was a case of spontaneous remission (which is both an incredible rarity and happens just as often with people taking western medicine or going untreated), or they were misdiagnosed in the first place. Everyone thinks their story disproves research, but that's not how science or just general understanding works. Imagine there are 300 people with the same disease and 100 each use western medicine, traditional medicine, and nothing. 2 months later 87 of the people who used western medicine are alive, 6 of the people who used traditional medicine are alive, and 6 of the people who used nothing are alive. The people who used traditional medicine cant say "Traditional medicine worked for me. I had that disease and I'm still alive just like those people who used western medicine." Its inaccurate, and since there's no one left who used traditional medicine to say "It didn't work for me." it seems to outsiders like they're equally effective choices. So some of them try to use traditional medicine and likely die from lack of treatment.

[@redchic]

A) You missed my point entirely if you believe that the term "dna" was the important part of what I said. B) actually genetics have proven to be a factor in how some people react to medications. As an example people who have parents who are allergic to penicillin have higher chances of being allergic to it than people whose parents aren't allergic to. That's just one example of people's dna determining how the react to medication. Given that the penicillin group of medications is actually a relatively large class of meds, that means it from can't be one of those rare exceptions. I could name many more, but it's not worth the time since it wasn't the the actual issue. . C) I don't disagree with the data that you posted.... You just didn't really get the just of what I was saying.

[@acesn8s89]

@@redchic You wrote a whole paragraph about my opening line (while ironically saying that I focused of the wrong part of your post), then agreed with my argument against the content of your statement, then said that i didn't get the gist of what you were saying..? Im honestly not trying to start a flame war here but you went from criticizing me, to arguing against me, to agreeing with me, to dismissing me as "not getting it". I got that you were saying people shouldnt judge traditional healing if they havent experienced it, and I explained why experiencing it is a bad idea. What else am I missing?

[@redchic]

Ok.... So you criticized me and expected me to agree with you when I don't.... Ahhh that's cute. So to follow what you were critical of and not write an entire paragraph and keep it short and simple..... My point actually is Not to not judge traditional healing. ( That's too narrow)

[@acesn8s89]

@@redchic"So you criticized me and expected me to agree with you when I don't...." "I don't disagree with the data that you posted.... " ??? And my point is that saying "dont judge that thing" is just another way of saying "dont use critical thought." Traditional medicine is a dangerous practice that is not supported by research and harms thousands of people every year. What about that is immune from judgement?

[@saxonton7920]

South Africa has a free health care system, so People dont go to healers because they are cheaper or easier to access. There is a spiritual component to the healing that non Africans tend to rubbish.

[@KhaosGorvin]

Faith can move mountains, and so can dynamite. -- Khaos Gorvin

[@KhaosGorvin]

@MorbidManMusic I know faith is not a real solution, but people still believe that an immaginary dude will fix everything. Science does things more efficiantly, but if one thinks praying will cure them who am I to judge?

[@physics-ir6nz]

You should have visit. HARIDWAR INDIA...for ..REAL..TRADITIONAL POWER OF HEALING ..AYURVEDA.....( IT SCIENCE NOT CULTURE )

[@probower4726]

One of the worst cities in India, I've been to Haridwar and it's nothing more than a unhygienic religious shithole. Ayurveda is quite a bit of garbage mixed with a bit of placebo, and very few proper remedies. Nothing is better than modern medicine, I say this from what my grandad (a renowned colo-rectal surgeon/specialist in Proctology from Mumbai, he's also a lecturer, more like was, because he's retired now) has told me. He was one of the pioneers of Proctology here in India, because doctors barely specialised in it back in the day. He chose it for the very reason, to research more in it. He's given several lectures about a lot of the medical research he's conducted, with the experience of 50 years (the majority of his life) in the field. So no, traditional medicine is nothing more than a few placebos and some stuff that can work, although I must say, naturopathy is the worst, with essential oils and other garbage.

[@mazingombatha9048]

😂😂😂 Jim jefferie is lying about 80% of the south Africans are using traditional healers where do you get your stats

[@Kazuya9009]

I think he's also including homeopathic medicine in that number.

[@Kazuya9009]

@Zaya herbal remedies using natural ingredients (i.e. not lab designed pharmaceuticals). You dont need prescriptions to buy it. Think ginger root tablets.

[@Ravishrex1]

@Zaya ask and you are foolish for a minute don't ask and you are foolish for a lifetime. Well done

[@Ravishrex1]

@@Kazuya9009 nice answer .

[@PravirMabeer]

@@Kazuya9009 "herbal remedies" are herbal remedies. "Homeopathic medicine" is diluting something to the point that it is essentially water, with the absurd belief that it makes it more potent.

[@simretsekhon586]

Did he really roast Jim about his weight, he looks like he weighs way more then Jim

[@none818]

South affrikahh

[@roibenblitz6863]

whats with the laugh track...

[@Comrade_Jason]

Uh....... There are clinics all over South Africa, public hospitals etc. Some rural areas may have issues, but a majority of South Africans live in urban areas, where there are free health care facilities available. They are not the best, and there are often super long queues, but so-called "western medicine" is available to most South Africans. What you may find is that some people use a combination of western and traditional medicines. But EVERYONE in South Africa uses cough syrup, paracetamol, etc. I'd say a majority have visited a clinic, hospital or doctor. The 80% using traditional medicine statistic seems off to me. Firstly, coloured, Indian and white people make up about 25% of the SA population. Furthermore, there is a sizeable black middle class and working class that have medical aid(medical insurance) and have access to private GPs and hospitals. So I'd say this video is VERY misleading. Yes, traditional healers and medicines are a part of SA culture. But that doesnt mean the majority of people don't access or have access to "western medicine".

[@jordancridland9657]

Any South Africans watching

[@RicardoSilva-hk2er]

REMEMBER THE EXPOSED INTERVIEW OF JIM WITH AVI YEMINI

[@andyhello23]

The problem is no modern doctor, understands how old time doctors worked, unless, they see being a doctor as a calling in there life. There are things that traditional healers can do, that modern science cannot do. Then there are things that modern docs can do, that traditional healers cannot. The problem is that so many whom use traditional healers, do not think, over how any of the stuff works, and most of these traditional healers, just do what they do, and have no worked out a reason, why there things sometimes work. Modern doctors, are very ignorant to why and how human do things. They just have a pill for everything, not appreciated the differences in all humans. Humans are not all the same, and like some robot, where all the parts are the same. There is good reason for both, modern doctors, and traditional healers. Both sides do not appreciate that both have there place. Its just like you have a side of your brain, that deals with reason, and then the other side of the brain that deals with spiritual potential. Humans always want to take sides, but do not appreciate both can work together. Traditional healers have the potential, to be good at what they do, if they can use reason, to work out how there what ever works, or does not work. Believing in modern medicine, or traditional healers, in absolutes is wrong, and its typical of humans to want to take a side. When both have there place, but ignorance of the other side, leads to many miscalculations on the other side. For me, i do not want to use either. But for those that do, you should appreciate that both have there place in a modern world. Without traditional healers, humans probably would not of survived as long as they did, till they got to the point of modern medicine. Many countries would not have any real population with traditional healers, and this is where modern medicine is totally ignorant to why human populations have always had them. Modern science ignores how important these traditional healers have been. But like i said, i would rather not use any, but for for me, there are benefits to both, but there is massive negatives to both approaches. Being a doctor before modern times, was seen as a lifes calling. This is the problem with modern doctors today, they do not see what they do as a calling, but mainly as a job, and a way to make loads of money. Being a doctor, or a traditional healer, should be seen by those doing it, as a lifes calling. The problem comes when these people do not see it taht way, as see it as a job, or a way to make money.

[@melvinathemagnificent9007]

4:12 #HymensAren'tLikeThat

[@nasaa2884]

Ok, this is worrying! I grew up in s small, poor town in Africa, with farmers and herders making the most of the population and I've never seen this level of 'faith healing'. Apart from mental & generic diseases which can get misdiagnosed as supernatural, a disease is clearly a medical condition. There are may culture-based remedies and recipes that people will suggest because there were no modern hospitals around (my state, way bigger than California, had 1 small hospital) but people use all options together, with modern medicine given most credibility. Superstition is very dangerous.

[@aliencoder7810]

80% percent of the population?? Nah that can't be right. Source?

[@TheSuperBugsBunny]

People look at that doctor and think he is crazy, but go to a place on sunday to worship a man just like him execept he is invisible...religious people crack me up man

[@jurvanoerle2845]

It seems like people are looking for wonder medicines that will cure them over night without them having to do anything. Just don't smoke, don't drink so much alcohol, work out every few days and eat healthy. How hard can it be?

[@jc.1191]

It disgusts me that there are tons of homeopathic remedies for babies on shelves now.

[@lxrdjuice9715]

😂😂😂 80% is purely false

[@lindokuhlemotsa8806]

This shxt is disrespectful

[@dakokosoccer18]

This ain't it fam...

[@PapaFunDip]

TBH Chinese traditional medicine is pretty good for aches or sprained ankles

[@jo-zz9gc]

ok but i think using traditional medicine first is a better idea before wasting your money on the doctor when it could’ve easily been cured with at home remedies. just a thought :-)

[@karkar3208]

Ya and go to the real doctor when it gets incurable and blame modern medicine

[@jo-zz9gc]

kar kar ; never said that, dude.

[@mjwbulich]

That's exactly what Steve Jobs thought,right before he died of prostate cancer.

[@jo-zz9gc]

cleftintwain ; thats his fault for not relying on modern medication instead of traditional medication. please read my *whole* comment to understand what i mean.

[@evilsharkey8954]

silentsubs, your whole comment says to try it “first”, before modern medicine. If you’re talking about some aches and pains here and there, maybe, but a lot of health problems become worse the longer you wait to start effective treatment. Cancer and serious infections can go from treatable to deadly quicker than you might think. I would suggest using alternative medicine as a compliment to modern medicine, with a doctor’s approval (some alternative treatments can interact with medicines, like St. John’s wort with SSRIs) or after modern medicine has failed.

[@chriskyan6344]

"Fats, stop eating bagels". U know it's a problem when a traditional healer doesn't bother giving you herbs.

[@Stevenewmansa]

The funny thing is he actually said "Stop eating burgers". There was actually a whole burger ad campaign around that pronunciation.

[@ndeoligence8]

@@Stevenewmansa wanted to say exactly this

[@chriskyan6344]

@@Stevenewmansa that makes it even better😂. Which ad is it?

[@Stevenewmansa]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGi8p6uodq6lfa8 this is the ad!

[@chriskyan6344]

@@Stevenewmansa i guess that's how trevor noah sounded before coming to America.

[@matashaaphane8681]

As a South African, I can tell you that we don't rely on traditional medicine for health care , it's mostly for spiritual stuff

[@exiled2home]

Matasha Aphane I find this video utterly disrespectful and exploitative. Further the people who have made it show that they have not the slightest idea of what a traditional healer is and hat their role is within communities. This video (and most of the comments accompanying it) are demonstrative of the fact that the colonial mindset is still alive and well.

[@miraclemay24]

That's some what not true. Some use both western and traditional medicine

[@flex_piper]

*"Let's keep going till we get the number we want"* Jim always calling it how it is 😂

[@MokgobiLedwaba]

"Kids, Mom's c%$# is good again. So Daddy is going to stay" Hahaha. Lol

[@beauxjones8793]

ASPIRIN came from Willow tree bark.

[@andyhello23]

Most modern medicines, have sprung from stealing ideas from such traditional healers.

[@johnpliskin8759]

ok, go chew on some white willow next time you have a headache

[@helenturner3657]

@@johnpliskin8759 I have. It works better than Bayer.

[@beauxjones8793]

John Pliskin have & it works. Can also be used to promote plant growth

[@ameliecarre4783]

@@andyhello23 Not stollen. Studied, understood, perfected and refined.

[@thesenate5913]

"After 3-4 thousand years the chinese can't be wrong" This sentence has so many errors in it

[@paulmakinson1965]

Not to mention the Chinese wiping out endangered species for their body parts with supposed medicinal properties.

[@goldengodbod7706]

look at your own country fool

[@grimdavis58]

Yeah tigers bladders are very sought after

[@cedricd1666]

I don't think it's 80%, Jim. I live in SA and that seems a bit high. Maybe it's cause I'm in Cape Town

[@francoisvanaardt1721]

No i agree its a bit much

[@bfg3890]

Huh, so they let Jim back in.

[@mswen1983]

Can you stop repeating the line about doctors handing out opioids like candy? Very few doctors are prescribing them anymore and that has real consequences for people living with chronic pain. Do a story about that.

[@geodez2959]

I've been selfmedicating with THC since 93 😎

[@geodez2959]

@MorbidManMusic and I feel great. Very rarely do I get sick and never taken a flu shot.

[@geodez2959]

@Sinkor22 duh , it's called self medicating for a reason. My own opinion is good enough for me.😁

[@kenthehobo]

Well, if you can afford modern medicine, sure!

[@sima_loxnovukela4871]

No like as a South African I feel like I have to confirm this some of traditional doctor's medicines do actually works

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Jim, your Witch Doctor wears bootleg Crocs, has Dish Network in his suburban neighborhood, and practices out of his tool shed. Seems legit.

[@undrcoverlouky]

I went straight to bed after watching this then dreamed I was in Australia and had to see a doctor. I know the traditional doctor Jim saw was in South Africa, but this was a dream. The doctor was in a pub. He prescribed a hot dog and bark.

[@jessicacole8404]

*I want to believe this is true*

[@pop5678eye]

The underlying problem is greed: whether 'alternative' or 'regulated' medicine if the doctor is motivated to push a drug because of greed it will kill. The opioid crisis in the USA was NOT the fault of 'alternative medicine' and it killed a lot more people. I am NOT endorsing any 'alternative medicine' I am just critical of both!

[@christophergomez499]

I love how open he is about hemorrhoids XD

[@GeneBurnett]

When we invest in our security by having armed forces, no one calls it "free military protection". When we invest in our infrastructure, no one calls it "free roads and bridges". Yet when we talk about investing in our country's health and education....suddenly it's "free health care" and "free college". From the standpoint of the individual, it might be free. But from the standpoint of the nation as a whole, it looks like an investment to me, one that makes a lot of sense economically. I wish advocates of these things would phrase it this way instead.

[@MckieDs595]

I completely agree with you. However this government does not care about its people. We spend more money on military than any country in the world, while at the same time telling teachers to buy their own supplies because "the government can't afford to". If we switched the budget from military to education and healthcare we could all go to college and get healthcare without going into debt. But that is too much like right.

[@MckieDs595]

The government only cares about investments that help the rich get richer. The rich can't get richer if the populace is well educated and healthy.

[@KCSaxe]

“Looks like we’re getting ready for scrabble” *What* Nothing

[@fangugel3812]

It feels a bit awkward giving you a thumbs up given the ending of the video.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Just stop at the first knuckle, and don't fist pound. It's corny.

[@alext7667]

In all seriousness, prep H is weak. Get some full strength witch hazel, and make sure you go often enough to not deal with the pain

[@abhishekrao1525]

What do you call alternative medicine that works? Medicine.

[@kpepperl319]

Coming from a culture relies on alternative medicine and working in Western medicine... I would say both have their benefits, but always research both because medicine in general is not 100% all the time and you have to be informed with all the information you can get. In China, there are many hospitals that work with both sides of medicine to help patients get better and stay healthy. It doesn't have to be black and white.

[@nkenamakwena3963]

I feel like you have missed the mark with this piece. You should have also went to the University of KwaZulu-Natal, specifically Howard campus and spoke to people that are researching Traditional medicine, and it's benefits. These people have published peer-reviewed articles on the subject. You have misrepresented traditional medicine and have shown a lack of depth on the subject, and it's not just belief... Read a little bit more on topic.

[@pudgeboyardee32]

It sounds like the local healers need access to real tools and doctors to find out if some of their remedies work, stuff like locally sourced salves can be effective but it needs to be measured and documented and disseminated. United states park rangers might be the best western analogue. You need guys that are in the field, know the plants and animals of the area, and can be first responders for people in isolated regions. There might be a benefit of finding new treatments and avenues of research or interest, but there would definitely be a significant increase in the level of care received in some of the places that need it most.

[@exiled2home]

I find this video utterly disrespectful and exploitative. Further the people who have made it show that they have not the slightest idea of what a traditional healer is and what their role is within communities. This video (and most of the comments accompanying it) are demonstrative of the fact that the colonial mindset is still alive and well and this Aussie bloke clearly shares the same mentality as his forebears. Everyone knows what they did to the indigenous people that originally occupied the land that they stole.

[@yanushkagunawardena7092]

The best traditional medicine and medical practice that has some legitimacy and is truly effective to a respectable extent is undoubtedly AYURVEDA !

[@pop5678eye]

I would love to see Trevor Noah and Jim Jefferies team up to expose more bullshit. They are golden at it!

[@khutjomaputla10]

Where did you get 80%

[@agrid2608]

It's not an accurate number. If I remember correctly it was based on surveys which asked whether South Africans are open to using traditional meds (herbal teas, etc) as a cure for colds, flus, stomach pains etc. Also the herbal stuff sold at pharmacies (in the supplements aisle) seems to be popular. But yeah, I think in urban areas the 80% figure is nonsense.

[@masingitasingy]

Hi, I am someone who has a traditional healer in the family. and I would like to give some insight. So firstly the stat is incorrect, most South Africans use western medicine over traditional medicine however most South Africans still perform traditional rituals which do not need a traditional healer present Traditional medicine has been bastarsised by the medical industry however many medicine are made from formulating and synthesising traditional medicines from all around the world For example, many traditional healers had been preaching beetroot to people with HIV to help them fight it, we even had a situation where the then Minister of Health Dr Manto Tshabalala was ridiculed world wide for recommending beetroot to HIV patients, today however beetroot extract is a main ingredient in ARVs San Bushmen and other African tribes used a plant called Hoodia to suppress hunger during times of famine, today that plant is used in some hunger suppression medicines. Now with that being said, there are many fraudulent healers and this is why the field needs regulation however we cannot demonise traditional health care methods when western medicine "borrows" and refines these processes to make the pills and tablets we drink today. The South African government is currently rolling out a program where they are working with labs to derive more "westernised" medicine from traditional recipes, these are then tested to see whether they do what they claim. They are working hand in hand with traditional healers, doctors and scientists to publish traditional science as medical and scientific science so they can take the stigma away from it and preserve cultural heritage whilst maintaining proper health practices. There is a spiritual element to this too which I will not talk about in this post however I have come to learn that there is often scientific relevance in traditional medicine from all across the globe and the medical industry tries to suppress and invalidate this in order to drive us to their unhealthy lab grown solutions.... hell we have been saying weed helps fights cancer for years but only now are they willing to admit it. Sorry for the long post, heres an African Potato

[@Accu91]

I see, you're a man of culture as well. ;)

[@masingitasingy]

@@Accu91 Brother. I knew I would find my kin on this video.

[@trevorpokela6962]

we even showed them how to put medicine straight into the blood stream

[@johnpliskin8759]

how's the re-virgininizing going

[@BKKfreak]

I can't find any citation showing a link between beetroots and arvs.

[@pop5678eye]

It's called 'alternative medicine' for a reason. If it was proven to reliably work it would be called 'medicine.'

[@amimieli1044]

that's just the Babylon calling it "alternative" and alternative isn't "it won't work" it's the option you take when the one you were taking wasn't working, so in this case it's western medicine that's fake and the traditional healing is the way to go

[@Frostiedkdk]

@@amimieli1044 what a load of rubbish, but you do you. PS if you are on alternative medicine i hope you have not perished in the 10 months since the comment was made.

[@greent16]

I rely on eastern medicine. Has worked all my life. Do I use western medicine? Only if the alternative doesn't work

[@kapilthevkanapathipillai6424]

Jeff you should've come to india and sri lanka

[@mccallosone4903]

i live in china. trust me, they most definitely can be wrong.

[@evilsharkey8954]

So, did the bark work? How was it supposed to be used?

[@evilsharkey8954]

Nick Trybull, it’s a joke, bro.

[@mrrodriguez2947]

I cure everything with buttplugs and MAYONNAISE 🤔

[@nandogilllrianxdc]

he didn't say bagels he said burgers.

[@videoaccount5676]

You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? Medicine.

[@moosesnWoop]

Haha you should have gone to the beach with the Sangoma. Kill a chicken, be reborn.

[@joeyjaime3746]

I Dont know Who to Believe, Dr.Scrabble or Dr. Ice Lolly w/Lubricant

[@MelindaChovexani]

I am slightly curious about the method of application/ingestion for the bark.

[@LarsLarsen77]

I couldn't laugh at this if I was on laughing gas.

[@ardellacfuiellsalimia7836]

The Dr said “we’re trying to see what they know” 🧐

[@thamisanqazakwe6680]

As a South African who is also a senior medical student and also from the areas where traditional medicine is widely practiced (Zulu-land); I like Dr Williams initiative because there is indeed true healing taking place in that sphere of the world, talking from 1st hand personal experience. There are however many chancers as it such an unregulated practice. Science is by definition "the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment", African science exists and it is real, thing is it is completely undocumented and it is passed on only from generation to generation. Funny thing is we don't mind that at all, I know I don't. I'll make an example of a simple herb that every Zulu should know, the Cotyledon orbiculata L. It has long been used as an anti-inflammatory for earaches among-st other things and it works wonders, in less than 24hrs it clears the ailment. It is heated, it's juiced extracted (squeezed out) and poured in the ear whilst warm. Almost every street will have a house that everyone gets the plant from, same goes for aloe and other plants.

[@RastaAfricanGentleman]

Piles I really can attest to it. I use a lot of traditional options rather than Western Medication. This is how we managed to get over the COVID pandemic quicker than most continents. We actually get reminded every day about it so we don't forget about the virus. We are lucky in my Province to have such disrespect not happen at all, the government has placed a great role to not allow such Western and Colonial mindsets to undermine our people's way.

[@SomeOne-ex7hk]

More that some people are tired of taking a bunch of pills that dont seem to help much, but cost a lot. Then they are like "Oh, yeah the last seven didnt work so lets try another six. Your insurance will pay for this right?" Dont blame em, but let's go with at least something that -sounds- like it could work. Not.. rubbing bark on your ass.

[@MeoWooff_01]

But can he cure virginity? Million dollar question.