Tradwives and the White Supremacists Who Love Them

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[@Shanspeare]

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[@marthademovimaus5140]

Rich white women in the early 1900s were the ones that had time to march around and protest and get your wine-shilling butt the right to vote! Don't forget that.

[@marthademovimaus5140]

What was that nonsense about white women having" a higher chance of being hatecrimed by Jeffree Star" ? Does a crime not labelled a hate crime not count? Where TF did you get those statistics?

[@jenniferhunter4074]

can you please tell us the name of the wine.. it looked like a rosé. I'm very curious about this wine.

[@marthademovimaus5140]

Seriously, in this inflationary economy you need to be buying bulk rice, beans and oatmeal, canned meat and vegetables not some stupid booze. You don't need to be a traditional homemaker to know that!

[@localwizard4654]

íióô

[@sadiadagreat]

The funniest part is that they are not even jobless. They are full time content creators who earn loads of money telling other women why they should leave the money making to their husbands. And did we notice the how they use their sexuality in these videos. I have no doubt that they have a huge male audience. Not very conservative or traditional of them.

[@nothing-jl2dz]

Say it louder

[@moethemoon]

+++

[@aubreejobizzarro1208]

Omg you’re so right. It’s basically sanctioned yt political porn propaganda for men 😅

[@mccringleberrytha3rd]

You hit on the head! It’s funny to me when I see tradwives flaunting their stuff on their accounts and of course theirs so many men in the comments praising her. Like you said it’s rather funny after all shouldn’t the husband be the one making the money? Not every ladylike if you ask me

[@SandyCheeks007]

@@aubreejobizzarro1208yooo fr 😂

[@BoxOKittens]

My mom is a wannabe trad wife. She fully believes men deserve to be in charge of everything and should have final say. Thing is, in all her relationships she ends up miserable with mean man-child partners who at best are lazy and entitled, and at worse are abusive to her. And every single time she finally has enough and leaves them, and then STILL doesn't see the fault in her way of seeing things and the type of men she's picking. It makes me so sad. And of course she thinks I'm the miserable one because I have zero desire for romance and sex, and don't ever want to get married or even date. I love living alone and being single, and it blows her mind. She's convinced I'm sad and lonely, when she's the one who is both of those things.

[@33melonpaws77]

Your Mother, from within her cage: My poor child, you are so trapped. You: >_>

[@RodrickMarsMoon]

No offence to your mom, but her projection and denial sounds intensely pathological.

[@RodrickMarsMoon]

Sounds very much like when religious people calling others "trapped" and affirm that they're "free", when THEY are the ones that forbid themselves from doing/watching actually fun stuff and only have, like, three topics to talk about.

[@Hemostat]

Dang sounds like my sister

[@Tsumami__]

Guessing she was raised and still is devoutly religious. Probably Christian.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Funny how these influencers talk about how they love to homeschool their children, when there are a growing number of reports of how these kids are victims of abuse.

[@lealmelisa]

I doubt these ladies take the time

[@sp.2778]

Yep! As a former homeschooled kid who experienced abuse at the hands of my over worked and stressed out mother, I can absolutely attest to how vulnerable children are in these types of situations. You have no resources and no outside adult voices to advocate for you, no safe spaces, it’s just a generally scary ass time. To every kid who’s being homeschooled by unhealthy parents: you’ll make it.

[@theshunnedBandersnatch]

Was homeschooled and can confirm. I know countless others who were abused by their parents also. Other adults just enabled them or were fooled by their public façade.

[@sabsain2399]

Personally I want to homeschool my kids at an early age because I can't trust the awful education system and fear other kids hurting them

[@FearlessSon]

That's a feature for them. They "submit" to total dominion by their husband, and in turn they feel entitled to total dominion over their children. For people like that, the goal isn't to be liberated themselves, it's to have dominion over someone else.

[@S.Hogardii]

Trad wives have always been very Daughters of the Confederacy to me. I'd suppose there are a lot of overlap in those groups.

[@ChaosTheoriesLuxe]

This! Absolutely. That is the exact vibe they give. They seem like they really want to biasly rewrite textbooks.

[@username5741]

​@ville__☝️🤓

[@ChaosTheoriesLuxe]

@ ville__ you and/or someone(s) with names really close to yours spam most of the YT videos I watch. That bot level of spamming makes me worry for you.

[@IgirlbossedTooCloseToTheSun]

​@@ChaosTheoriesLuxe yeah this person's been at it for 3 years across several channels, mainly targeting queer/trans creators They used to derail comments with huge arguments but now whoever I see them it's just spam copy-paste stuff

[@ChaosTheoriesLuxe]

@IgirlbossedTooCloseToTheSun Yea. I just always wondered if it was just one troll or a whole group of spammers. If that is one person, I am severaly worried. The dude needs to go and feel the grass beneath his feet.

[@snailart9214]

As eomeone who was was homeschooled on a farm: don't fucking do it ladies. Your work will NEVER end.

[@ladyjulbug]

I can't hear you over the image of a bunch of giant bunnies, chickens, ducks, and a big garden. Lol I'm not trying to have whole cows and tractors...just an acre of land surrounded by woods, with a 30 minute drive in any direction to a town. I think that's probably a more realistic balance.

[@beth2721]

trad wives are so funny bc they’re like “let women go back to tending the home like they used to instead of working🥺💔” like women haven’t been in the workforce since forever. it’s only now that economic instability has gotten so bad it’s touching upper middle class white suburbia they’re like “what happened to living off of one income alone💔💔”

[@noname-gh1vr]

That's been a conversation forever, people just chose to ignore it.

[@sugarpearl9781]

Also domestic labor IS work! Unpaid, undervalued, work!

[@RevShifty]

@@athenapromachos3027 It's a bot. It posts the same thing under multiple channels, so you can ignore it.

[@athenapromachos3027]

@@RevShifty ah thanks, sorry, I'm a bit tech blind lol

[@RevShifty]

@@athenapromachos3027 Oh, no worries. I just didn't want to see you wasting your time. We don't get much, and there are usually better ways to spend it than talking to software making wild posts.

[@katie-5777]

at the ripe age of 16 my bf at the time was trying to push me into being a tradwife + he was racist but the gag is.. he himself was a minority 😐

[@whip-whiplash]

Colonialism and its consequences

[@Sarah.M98]

Wow 😳

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

Not surprising.

[@miaomiaochan]

Sadly, I've seen a lot of those types in the Chinese community. Chinese culture is still deeply patriarchal, especially in rural areas. And older Chinese can be racist as hell, even towards other Chinese that are not as assimilated to American culture as they are.

[@inezaa]

Lemme guess… Mexican?

[@MeltySimone]

My cute, almost college graduated, black ass almost thought I wanted to be a tradwife. I just want to demolish the current system. Queen Shan strikes again

[@juratory8876]

I'm a college-educated Black woman and I never wanted to be a housewife. I just feel like it's just so boring and prison-like lol

[@theshunnedBandersnatch]

I felt like that in college and sometimes now when I am overwhelmed with work or just don't want to go into the office 😂 I get over it pretty quickly though lmao.

[@sabsain2399]

Me grooming and building myself up to be as submissive, obedient and feminine for my husband at age 12: 🥰🥰😍

[@adi_Iastname]

@@DoobeeKindno you’re so right tho, that baby alive doll had damaging affects on me

[@prettynpetty8342]

It's almost like, "Choose your warden! Your soul crushing 9-5 or your insecure and hypermasculine husband with daddy issues!"

[@nicolegulino]

Taylor Swift: *breathes* Candace Owens: and I took that personally

[@bapsbaby6441]

It’s crazy how some women will look at the past when a lot of women were treated like objects, had no rights, and suffered greatly to get said rights be like “I want that life, why can’t we go back?”

[@shareathought769]

It's more ...I saw my grandparents have a healthy traditional relationship...and my parents with my super feminist mom get super stressed and overloaded because all the same chores exist even if both partners are working full-time. I thought they were going to get divorced. I would rather do all the house chores than argue with my partner about it.

[@n48_art]

@@shareathought769said noone ever

[@shareathought769]

@@n48_art I am saying...so said one person at least

[@memebigdick]

​@@shareathought769 ah yes very believable

[@Pakkoruotsionpaskaa]

Babe wake up Shanspeare has posted

[@Shanspeare]

🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

[@broccoli9445]

i've never been so up before

[@broccoli9445]

(btw i love your name. rats rock. especially gay ones.)

[@glassspiderlegs9372]

Literally me and my boyfriend

[@bananajoe4940]

This pfp is sending me 💀

[@astral-sabbat]

Staying means nothing if leaving isn't an option. It definitely sounds like some early tradwives were victims themselves, stuck between hurting others or hurt themselves

[@ewarrior9776]

This reminds me of the time I was presenting in a grad school class and to remind a whie woman that they were allowed to own property in the form of slaves. She started to make teary eyed excuses, I continued my presentation while other white women were comforing her.

[@rasheed7934]

Good 😂😂😂

[@tonystonem9614]

What on earth were her excuses? You should’ve pointed the white woman tears out as part of the presentation

[@ewarrior9776]

@@tonystonem9614 I wanted to but I wanted to stay in school nd graduate.

[@ThisUserPassedAway]

Why was she even apologetic? This is so weird like why do white leftists embrace the original sin theory more than anyone else.

[@himpim642]

good.,Opressors shoudl be remionded on their hsitory .Its like in chatroom i was on when turk went on white europeans exploit brown people.yes, they do but not all of them like my dpople -white serbian nation who were slaves with littler rights of "brown" turks for 400 years durign whcih they stole our kids to raise as salve soldiers, raped our women and terroised anyone who didnt bow down to them. heck today we are at toods with first world "white" military alince called nato in whcih turks are also members but we are one whcih fouht them

[@alexiscohen932]

I'm so glad I watched this instead of drooling over another tradwife video, exhausted from work as a single mom of 2. You're absolutely right that I just want to be able to slow down and be secure, and not be subservient to a man, and surrounded by ideology that I actually hate. Great, great video.

[@dkupke]

I have a hunch a lot of this “traditional wife” crap would fall apart as soon as they are requested to do laundry the traditional way-by hand with a tub and a grate, no washer or dryer. Double so when you take away disposable diapers and they have to wash cloth ones-by hand.

[@rtechie]

By this "logic" shouldn't feminists hand wash clothes and use cloth diapers because washing machines and disposable diapers were both invented by men? In fact, since virtually everything was invented by men, shouldn't feminists be living naked in the woods gathering berries? Tradwives explicity honor and respect men for creating the comfortable world they now live in, it's bitter feminists that whine about it.

[@Callista2270]

I don’t even think there was ever a time in US history when the “ideal American nuclear household” even existed. My grandfather (born in 1940) has 6 sisters and all of them worked their entire lives, and both my grandmothers (born in the 30’s and 40’s) worked their entire lives too

[@tymbil27]

the concept of the whole "women stay in the domestic sphere while men work" was invented either before or during the civil war. before that literally everyone just worked in the fields

[@OliverNorth9729]

Everyone has to work. What kind of work do you mean?

[@Callista2270]

@@OliverNorth9729I mean it ran the gambit two of them have college degrees so one was a judge, and the other one worked in an investment firm, but then there were a couple that became nuns, and so they were teachers at the local Christian school for a long time, one was the manager of a general store (from what I understand it was kind of like a 7/11 or something like that), and she was born in the 20’s so she also worked in the factories building cars when WW2 happened, one of them took over for their father as the head of a construction company, one worked for the department of education for a really long time, and one of them was a nurse at a hospital. But also like isn’t the point of the trad wife trend…that the woman isn’t working in a money earning capacity at all?

[@tamcon72]

I'm a middle-aged suburbanite from the Upper Midwest and I can assure you that that the earner husband/stay-at-home wife was the norm in the midcentury middle class (it included the working class) when I was a child. My parents both worked and had a more progressive division of labor than their slightly older trad family peers, but I will say this: 90% of the wives had a great deal of power over household matters, to the point of having fairly equitable relationships with their breadwinner husbands.

[@AxlLeigh]

my grandma desperately wanted to work. My POS grandfather wouldn't let her. She got a job as soon as he died.

[@FoxGameCZ]

I don't want tradwifes near my cottagecore 😤

[@daniel-panek]

Is that a type of music?

[@ameliasellers6396]

​@@daniel-panekIt's an aesthetic subculture surrounding a love of flowers, the forest, nature, and living a simple and peaceful life.

[@piya6929]

it's like they highjacked the cottagecore aesthetic

[@lindap.5120]

The court case Oregon v. Rideout in 1978 was the first in which someone stood trial for raping his spouse while they lived together. By 1993, marital rape was a crime nationwide.

[@LadyVenus125]

I love your videos. You seem like such a nice and smart person. You remind me of the meme "Girl, you have done it again. Constantly raising the bar for us all." You are awesome! Never stop making these videos.

[@LadyVenus125]

@ville__ You don't even have content.

[@LadyVenus125]

@ville__ I reported you.

[@ripplesripley]

"liberation is not solved by individualism" you put it so much better than I ever could omg

[@allisarcadia2319]

I have never clicked on a video essay so fast. I've always felt there's something so insidious about how radical/racist/xenophobic white women get a sort of "free pass" because it's so easy for them to hide behind the way louder and way more violent men. Really excited to absorb this information, thank you for your hard work. ♥

[@halfmoon106]

@@Crawlingdreams418 Who are "your people"?

[@MEIDEN333]

@@Crawlingdreams418 whats is your country

[@Crawlingdreams418]

@@halfmoon106 although i recognize that by concealing that, i am just as complicit as the people actively doing it, i'd rather not say.

[@thomasvacsi6732]

What are you prattling about?

[@mallarieluvsgirls]

@@thomasvacsi6732someone’s one of those racist and violent men lmao. you’d never get it. not even if you tried.

[@LynshereeEastman]

YES, please, and thankyou! Fantastic work on this increasingly complex topic. So relevant now, and then, and always. I appreciate the way you speak on this.

[@Shanspeare]

❤❤❤❤

[@lizablee]

First ever Shanspeare video - subscribed after Hbomb's recommendation. Excited to watch, mindful of the dark subject matter. Hi other Hbomb subs!

[@Shanspeare]

Omg I’m honored

[@lizablee]

​@Shanspeare I've only watched 15 minutes and I'm already excited to explore your back catalogue!!

[@seraph3m]

welcome to the shanspeare club, glad you’re here!

[@aug1014]

I’m also here from Hbomb! Hi!

[@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer]

Yet another new inductee of the HBomb to Shan pipeline here!😁

[@T0kenfunny]

in the first seven minutes of this video re-framed the last 5 years of my life I was in high school when all those events happened. I grew up in a rural town in Maryland with not many people who gave a shit about me. I was black fat and mentally ill with maybe two friends. I don't think I have given past me the benefit of the doubt that I was scared I was going to be hate crimes cause of my skin. Idk those years were so hard on me I stopped being able to go outside. Thank you for reminding me to give my past self grace cause I was only a kid.

[@OliverNorth9729]

You should start a channel.

[@karenabrams8986]

Really glad I’ve found you. I haven’t been able to connect why women in my family and community were like this. Advocating for servitude. The abusive power they got from owning slaves must have been extremely intoxicating because I saw how much some of my friend’s mom enjoyed controlling their daughters. I have never thought about what these personality types would behave like in an ownership role. The idea of owning a human being is angering and repulsive to me. It’s a wonderful notion to a true believer Christian tradwife. They crave the same power imbalance in a relation ship that their husbands enjoy with them. Exploiters.

[@aliyahbeeah]

it’s crazy how shan NEVER misses

[@zoc.6922]

Every time I see a Trad Wife/RightWing Woman whining about feminism or enforcing a Trad Wife lifestyle, I remember that one scene in Vice (2018) where Amy Adams (Lynne Cheney) was leading antifeminism marches. I already know that Candace Owens clip is of her raging because Taylor Swift is 34, unmarried and is holding hands with her friend. She's so unserious. The Triad Wife Influencers/Right Wing Women making content when they aren't doing it themselves. They make money off of telling other women not to make money. Every tiktok video, every fox news interview, every GRWM clip.

[@prettynpetty8342]

Taylor Swift is a billionaire all on her lonesome and Candace will never see that amount of success or admiration and she married a Lord...from England. She's getting desperate. The image if being a wife is more important to conservative fems even if it loses them money.

[@gemcorker3982]

Very much reminds me of Phyllis Schaffley (spelling?) Founder of the John Birch Society, big influence on Ronald Reagan and inspiration for Serena Joy in The Handmaid's Tale. When Serena Joy is asked why she doesn't practice what she preaches about women staying home and being godly and subservient, she says she desperately wants to but must keep fighting, to free other women from the horror of equal rights and the expectations of having jobs outside the home that comes with those rights. Offred muses: How furious she must be, now that she's been taken at her word.

[@miaomiaochan]

It's the authoritarian way. One set of rules for the privileged, another for everyone else.

[@mallarieluvsgirls]

why are racists not even watching the video?? 😭😭 go away dude. triggering yourswlf on purpose is bad for your heart. go take care of your man or kids.

[@petervizzini4006]

Watch wrong with criticism

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

Sorry, calling your friend out doesn’t equal “racism.” Get over it.

[@RasheedGazzi]

Hate watching is what you can call it.

[@Sgtpepper1019]

I’ve had this idea for a while that in the last few years there has been a tendency of some people, usually way too online, who try to turn kink into ideology. How could something like “biblical submission” be anything else? Reminds of a quote I can’t find that said fascism is aesthetics raised to the level of politics

[@pearl559]

Do you plan on talking about the religious aspects of tradwives? Their antisemitic, anti-LGBT interpretation of biblical text definitely plays a role in their beliefs. I was raised conservative evangelical (now I’m a queer agnostic, oops!) and I am super interested in that intersection with the alt-right

[@RenaissanceRockerBoy]

There’s this really good book called “Jesus and John Wayne,” (my dad recommended it to me) about how Evangelical Christians twisted Jesus into becoming an exaggerated version of white supremacist Western toxic macho-masculinity. Another article, although not about the religious intersection, is called “the crunchy to alt-right pipeline,” which is just really interesting overall :]

[@Pollicina_db]

I don’t get how so many christians can be anti semitic while all the fprefather of Christ (Abraham, Moses, Kind David) where jews. Heck, the apostoles and Jesus himself were all jews and raised as such. I don’t get it bruh

[@noname-gh1vr]

I mean..anti-lgbt isn't really an interpretation. It's literally deemed as sexual immorality and therefore a sin in the bible.

[@taursula]

⁠@@noname-gh1vrL + i had gay transsexual sex with your dad + you are factually incorrect + the book has hundreds if not thousands of contradictions

[@markigirl2757]

@@Pollicina_db it stems for the hostility and wars jews and prostestants and catholics have saying one si more right then the other and fighting over that and creating justifications throught their corrupt religion that its okay to colonize and enslave people lol

[@Marlo_Strannik]

I'm from South Carolina. I attended a summer camp at Clemson named after Clements Pinckney. I saw the families forgiving him for what he did with tears in their eyes. The beginning of this video gave me chills.

[@alexbell3791]

I saw the Confederate AND Nazi flags flying in the Capitol Building. It was awful to see that.

[@lukedavenport4301]

Capitalism is fascism. As long as capitalism exists, minorities are going to be oppressed. I’m a trans man and I still wanted to be able to stay home and take care of my family. Watching this video made me realize that I don’t want to be a “stay at home father”, I want to continue to take down capitalism. Thank you for making this video and spreading this information, people really need to listen.

[@straberryshinigami15g97]

Oh yea . Vegans against capitalism ✨

[@WEEDNUTZ]

So true. The socialist revolution will come

[@SpecialBlanket]

fwiw i dated a homemaker trans guy, that relationship style is out there if yr open abt the lifestyle you want!

[@mo.ka.9661]

Yes Oprah is so oppressed

[@TheRedAnvil40]

Once I read "I'm a trans man" your argument became pointless, ma'am.

[@plutopepsi578]

“Behind every successful man stands a woman” applies to men who are “”successful”” in their bigotry too

[@auggiemain]

Shanspeare you were featured in the hbomber video !! Youre so cool raaahhhh i love your content ‼️‼️

[@Shanspeare]

I saw!!! How cool!!!!! I’m honored

[@leyrounni1304]

Yess I saw that too! I was like aaa, I know them!

[@arbitarious]

Which one

[@auggiemain]

@arbitarious the most recent one that everyone's been talking about lol, the plagiarism one. When he was suggesting better creators to follow, he included Shanspeare

[@Sewfulyjass]

A friend of mine, a male, is into those Neo-Trad who constantly post women in the age of chivalry, the 1950s, and eastern European femineity etc, alluding to traditional femininity and wives. Some are dog whistles for [WS] movements, which is scary. I hear what you mean about white women owning enslaved people, but I would like to point out that white women had to work for wealthier white women too, there were a lot of women who were in servitude due to economic status. great video with interesting points

[@escapiisms]

After a long day of listening to my teachers yap, nothing brings me more happiness than making myself an iced coffee, getting comfy in my blankets, and watching your videos 😌🫶

[@TITSORGTFO714]

I spent some time as a stay at home gf bc me and my partner were trying to see if that worked for us, and I literally became insane. I think that theres a lot of negatives about the lifestyle that is ignored completely by all STHM influencers because it doesn't fit the image they are trying to sell. Maybe I wasn't cut out to be a stay at home partner, but I refuse to believe that at least half of these women do not have severe cabin fever.

[@SpecialBlanket]

some people genuinely love it. i dated a homemaker and my sister is one, as well as my metamour. they all had to basically go thru a self acceptance process to get there, no one pipelined them (they're a white woman, a black/PR woman, and a black/white mixed trans man).

[@Nikki-ks6wi]

Not sure if stayed at home with a kid but I does help having something to do throughout the day. I am a SAHM but could never imagine being home without kids I would just return back to work I’d go insane

[@cosmicionicc5134]

It also helps if you have a support system and other friends who are also SAHM

[@hambone4984]

My husband and I tried it prior to marriage when we moved across the country, and I absolutely loved it BUT he hated it. Just to be able to afford the bare minimum basics, he was working 14+ hour days 6 days a week and even on his one day off he'd often do various side jobs to bring in extra money or food or I'd do side jobs to bring in whatever was lacking. After a few months we talked about it all and he brought up how he hated that he had zero time to himself, zero time to relax, and although he loved coming home to a clean house and cooked meals, he couldn't enjoy anything because he was too tired and living off of caffeine and nicotine. It also didn't help that I was constantly excited when he came home so I wanted to smother him with affection, which wasn't always an issue but I understand that after a long ass day some times the last thing you want is someone constantly wanting to talk and touch you. And none of that even touched that I dropped my living standards MASSIVELY while being a housewife. I went back to work and now here we are over a decade later with a baby and able to keep our heads above water a hell of a lot easier than when I stayed at home.

[@ThisUserPassedAway]

Being a housewife with kids is waaaay different. Stay at home without kids makes no sense like what are you even doing???

[@Thunderlion-yd4nv]

You want to know something? I’m a male but I would *NEVER* subjugate my wife to me when I’m married, let alone, make her the lone “homemaker” (especially because I’ve done household chores by myself before and it’s HARD for one person alone to do it) In addition, you know how the side that wants all women to be tradwives (AKA the far-right) is so alarmist about Muslims supposedly “wanting Sharia Law in the USA”? Sharia Law is only the Middle Eastern version of that’s side’s agenda-In this case, in Sharia Law, it’s MANDATED that women are the delegated homemakers and subjugate to their husbands Yes, for people so scared of Sharia Law, they are expert practioners of it!!

[@lindap.5120]

You get that friendship makes a loving relationship.

[@Thunderlion-yd4nv]

@@lindap.5120 *YES!!* If I were a girl and my man started to abuse me/use me/make me his free slave/etc., I'd OUT of that relationship at the 1st sign

[@RasheedGazzi]

You obviously don't know what you are talking about when it comes to Shari'a law.

[@heathermarieloving8132]

Thank you for this in-depth video! I have become a big fan of slow fashion and using natural fibers as much as I can to be environmentally conscious- and because I've been learning about the science behind dyes used on synthetic fabrics, how harmful they can be, and would definitely recommend starting with To Dye For by Alden Wicker to explore that subject- and watched one person's video about their thrifting tips and why they choose natural fibers. After skipping through about 2/3 of the video because they were espousing pseudoscience and not what I think are the real, measurable, demonstrable harms of synthetic clothing, and listened to their thrifting tips, the YT algorithm has now been pushing multiple of their videos about "biblical femininity" all over my feed. As someone who falls into the atheist/vaguely pagan and definitely leftist camps, I'm surprised by how hard the algorithm is leading me into the "tradwife/biblical femininity" rabbit hole. I told KZbin to not suggest videos like that/that creator anymore, but this was a super timely video.

[@miramller1101]

It's crazy how fast the algorithm starts throwing alt-right aligned stuff at you! Almost enough to make you start feeling conspiratorial. Although I think it's just the case of these people being really good at gaming their engagement. I'm nonbinary and very left and youtube keep trying to throw anti-trans stuff at me. So exhausting

[@moethemoon]

Omg those femininity videos never stop even if I click not interested it’s insane.

[@heathermarieloving8132]

I agree. I definitely have those side-eye conspiratorial inklings, but I think part of it could be the potential for rage baiting and the algorithm trying to see if it can lead you down a rabbit hole that way. (Also I feel like that It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia conspiracy meme whenever I talk about "the algorithm.") I hope it shifts to a more enjoyable suggestion feed. :) @@miramller1101

[@heathermarieloving8132]

Fingers crossed it gets the hint soon! :) @@moethemoon

[@ej4381]

Obviously I don't believe in racism/sexism/moving backwards away from feminism. However, they are right about one singular thing. The petticoats. I love a petticoat and a pretty dress!

[@ej4381]

Very well researched video, well done x

[@ej4381]

You are so right about the mental need to get out of the hyper capitalism and cost of living making this attractive

[@user-zs9ux1ru8u]

*Happy Holidays, mother.*

[@Shanspeare]

Happy holidays, child.

[@happygucci5094]

Shan you bodied this frfr. No crumbs left- like WOW. The work is so deeply appreciated Sis. With love gratitude and solidarity. 43 yo femme presenting queer neaurodivergent , working class, Black abolitionist feminist womanist, radical left liberationist internationalist ( to name a few of my identities) Thank you Shan. The future is in good hands- thank you to all the younger generations engaging with this type of work. You are so valued and appreciated.

[@hilarybeaumont8823]

Thank you for differentiating those of us that externally look like trad wives but are very different. I came to be a SAHM via my late onset deafness that made my career future uncertain which made it make sense to start a family and focus there while I figured out my next steps. I have 5 kids ages 5-16, am a Christian, do SAH but am also left leaning, anti capitalist, a gentle parent and do my best to teach my kids about racism, sexism, ableism, etc and the environment. It's frustrating when so much of the content from people who live their lives similarly is so toxic and damaging. It makes it feel even more isolated. Is also so hard to see other moms get sucked in via the crunchy mom to tradwife/antivax/conspiracy theory pipeline.

[@PeaceLovePaperbacks]

I found this channel and i couldn't be more glad informative honest interesting.

[@olliek8235]

this video got recommended to me by youtube immediately after i finished philosophytube's recent video ("a man plagarized my work: women, money, and the nation") and so many of her points connected to the ones made by you so smoothly and well that it felt like i was watching two companion videos !! this has been a very good youtube session for me tonight.

[@emilycaminiti4696]

So many tradwives seem to think they can wear pretty dresses while doing farm work. And so many don’t seem to understand how much manual labor is involved in agriculture. And how much of a financial gamble farming can be.

[@SirWaffles-f4j]

I remember Charlottesville. I was in that town actually. We were staying with family and I remember asking my dad if I could take my sister to a park and he said that we weren't going to go outside that day. I remember hearing the people shouting and I just didn't know what it was.

[@quirkyblackenby]

I’ve never understood the desire to be a housewife. A stay at home mom, yes but never a housewife. Maybe because I don’t care for marriage or “homemaking”. Cooking and cleaning for a partner doesn’t sound enjoyable to me. Waiting on another adult hand and foot sounds miserable. Caring for a child seems cool but doing stuff for an adult that can do it themselves is pointless to me. My first gf was obsessed with the idea of me being a housewife for some reason. Idk she was a pos and didn’t treat me as a person but rather as a prop.

[@habibikebabtheiii2037]

House wife make since in a time without appliances

[@CreepyCrawlyFella]

Honestly it's incredible your content is free, this video is better than university lectures ive attended on the topic

[@rtechie]

That says more about how awful university professors are these days than how good this "content creator" is.

[@Itsafairy.13]

This is what Gilead society wants. (For all the handmaids tale readers out there.) I feel like this video directly relates to what the handmaids represents, both religiously and physically.

[@mooslelovr09]

Mormon mom content is the best comparison to trad wife content I've seen on social media. There's so much overlap between the 2. I often think about how mormons make ideal candidates for government positions in the CIA, NSA, etc. because their teachings center the US as the mecca of their religious teachings.

[@haylie.joy.2001]

As someone who has lived in Utah their whole life and so therfore has been surrounded by the whole tradwife culture, this is so true. My mom, mother in law, and both my sister in laws are this way and are metaphorically lead on a leash by their husbands. Basically all my brother in laws though (and my father in law) are pretty narcissistic though, and their wives don't seem to realize it.

[@CoastGhost156]

Thank you for making this content! I’m so glad you’re on the scene. Every video like this helps disrupt the pipeline.

[@grace-4072]

This is me giving you a very gentle kiss on the forehead for putting in captions! Thank you :)

[@jamiewarren9961]

this is a great tie in to philosophytube's most recent video where she explored why women are drawn to conservativism. so great! love you shan!!

[@syd1982]

Idk who said it but i read a twitter thread (back in 2020) of someone linking this trend (not aesthetic trend but statistic) of traditional gender roles & all of the bigotry that holds with the current pandemic we r in. They were saying how the ableism that is actively being magnified as we navigate this pandemic is the usual gateway to even more oppressive ideologies being emboldened. (I say emboldened cuz they HAVE always been around, they were just a BIT more taboo due to the activism for inclusion of 2016. "Body positivity" "#MeToo" "#RepresentationMatters" as movements that were only accepted by the mainstream on a surface level that can help them garner goodwill.) But now with the pandemic they can hide their ableism behind "the pursuit of health during the plague". But like ableism leads to an obsession with health & with that comes the need to distinguish who is healthy & with THAT comes the distinction of what is "woman healthy" vs "man healthy" & then THAT leads to "ok well what other gender roles do ppl need to better align with" & its just a nasty snowball effect. The thread even predicted the uptick in "heroin chic" skinny being the new in-trend (aesthetic this time not statistic) cuz with the pandemic raging everyone wants to "prioritize health" but in this fatphobic world, health = skinniness. They even paralleled it with the events that followed the 1918 spanish flu. I wish i had the source for this but yeah ur vid is making all the important connections. Love ur work ! Edited for grammar

[@myas6802]

i’m so glad that you added the part at the end about ending capitalism instead of becoming a trad wife, because i won’t lie, i was getting sucked into the homesteading aspect for a sec…😩😬

[@oz9047]

15:16 A really funny thing is that this woman pictured on screen is a prominent self proclaimed “trad wife” who is an “ex-lesbian” and boasts about her husband, farm, traditional motherhood and being a “milkmaid” (her own words). What’s so funny about this is that she doesn’t have a husband. She has zero kids. She lives IN the city of Ontario Canada and her “farm” are a couple of flower beds in her backyard with store-bought plants in them. She even uses the same clip of her outside of someone else’s property interacting with livestock to show off her rural lifestyle.

[@alexwyman8380]

The daughters of the confederacy are *the* reason that we have so many confederate statues

[@gmfutube]

I stayed home after having my second, because I didn't feel I could do a good job with 2 kids and working. We were not well off, so to do this I baked bread, cooked from scratch, used cloth diapers, made the children's clothes, breast fed. I made and sold crafts for pizza money. It was a lonely life. Most of the other women who stayed home had regular activities I could not afford to keep up with, and that was before the religious nuts. The big issue to me is the difficulty of moving out of that. At 40 you have a lot of skills, the kids are nearly grown and no one wants to hire you.

[@Catlady49]

SHAN SHAN SHAN SHAN SHAN *slams through the wall next to the door*

[@Shanspeare]

This is hilarious

[@infernoleo9]

Started watching this to have on in the background, at 7:29 realized "Oh no, this is one I NEED to pay attention to." New to the channel, definitely gonna explore.

[@AaliyahBRoach]

I have to be honest. I did not really think about this topic but I watched cuz of you and I have to say, everything you said in 40:35-41:45 has to be the most important things you’ve ever said. thank you so much for this video! ❤

[@cirkusanette]

Equity is about recognizing that women are as capable as men in *everything*

[@michellestella7477]

Absolutely looove that thumbnail 😂❤

[@Shanspeare]

It’s one of my favorites! The first concept was too…spicy for KZbin. So I had to change it to this. But still good!

[@KhadijaMbowe]

LESSSS GOOOOOOOO

[@armus139]

The Netflix show web of lies has an episode about a lady who helps get more women into a far right group.

[@brittanybecker170]

"I wish the trad wife community was more welomi-" Its a feature, not a bug.

[@slaythedayaway04]

so excited for this video! I love your work

[@Shanspeare]

Excited for you to watch!

[@G.G.276]

@@ShanspeareCan you now Do Why BM hate their Own Mothers?

[@kristianklitgaard5298]

I wass a boy during the late 50'ties/ early 1960'ies...Those damsels appearetly want that period back ...I STRONGLY recommend them to check out some history books - otherwise they could end up getting far much than they ask for!

[@scotthendrix9829]

Thanks for all your hard work in making this video. I taught a university course this semester on the threat of white nationalism, and while I touched on trad wives you brought this topic into much fuller focus than I managed to do.

[@wabotlheramoroka]

I love your videos. I’m obsessed

[@Shanspeare]

Thank you ❤❤❤

[@jk_lol9266]

Aesthetics, writing, delivery. 10 out of 10! Loved everything about this. Thank you for sharing. I can't believe I haven't come across your channel before, but I'm so happy to have done so now. Excellent work, I can't wait to dive into the rest of your videos.

[@fdiw]

The algorithm did its job for once! this was a video I swear made for me. I'm living a trad wife's lifestyle without being traditional myself. I really liked the trad wife content that was happening on TikTok but deleted the app years ago when it was starting to get really racist and weird. So thankful that my favorite creator is a Jewish woman herself who was speaking out often about how being a homemaker should be for anyone and explicitly stated that queer and people of color belong. But it was really scary seeing the anti-Semitic comments that would pop up on her videos when she would remind everyone she was not Christian. It made me step away from the internet. But it is bonkers what people say to me in person because they look at me and see a white woman married to a man not knowing that I'm queer or that I'm homeschooling because in Florida my son would not be allowed to learn about slavery or that queer people exist. I hadn't thought about it before but you're absolutely right this is like the baby step for people getting radicalized and it sucks. Racism and men ruin everything 😭 because it's super true there is comfort I have in my marriage to my husband that I did not experience when I dated women that out in public in general people will treat me like a human and not throw things at me or whisper slurs. And how how heartbreaking is that, that to live outside of that imagined bubble your norm is not safe😢 TLDR thank you for the care and thoughtfulness you put into this video

[@Cheffamily]

oh my god i now realized why i recoiled at the phrase "t*******" is because my mind immediately jumped to those racist white women in The Help

[@YesIAmTheFiend]

This may not be related to the topic but I like the use of music in these videos. It doesnt distract while also filling the silent space behind the vocals. Perfect volume/usage

[@ad5168]

Shan this is a fucking masterpiece just *chefs kiss* ily

[@Sapph00000]

i’m so glad you have a platform! your videos are extremely artistic and creative yet informative and comedic

[@tasha8640]

I got a knee injury at my last job 4 years ago and it caused me not to work! To the gov't my spouse makes "too much" I haven't been able to get any other assistance! They swear as long as your spouse has a job "Deal with it"

[@isa888bit]

Your videos always hit! Cheers 🥂

[@cyanidecinnamonroll7628]

girl this was a amazing video but that fire alarm at the end made my heart drop JAJA i have never swiped off my headphones so quick in my life to see if mine was going off

[@holographicunicorn1369]

Each time I hear any racist ideology, I think of the Bill Nye Science Guy video where he explains why humans have different levels of melanin in their skin and remind myself that the people that believe these ideologies need to touch grass (and that is putting it lightly) 😅

[@deleteduser121]

This woman has the most beautiful voice I've ever heard of my life. I would worship her

[@biancaroyale3741]

I can't say it surprises me that a woman in the US with the last name Vuckovic would be a white supremacist. A huge number of Ex-Yugoslavian diaspora to the US are descendants of chetniks and ustashe (Nazi collaborators during WWII and fascists in their own right, the former from Serbia and later from Croatia) who escaped justice by emigrating to the US, Canada, and several South-American countries. Even her nickname, "Wolfie" is an allusion to her name (Vuckovic translates to "(son) of a wolf." It's more than likely she grew up in a very far right household or at the very least a highly conservative, vocally anti-communist one.

[@shada9324]

quite a few white supremacists in the balkans today too, who could've immigrated later

[@brettjohnson4321]

Grew up in a small town in canada. Trad wives are common in the community. I noticed that many older men marry young women. Usually picking a friends younger sister as a partner. Thus he is able to train his wife to be the eoman he wants.

[@drugsdelaney2907]

Groomers. Christian’s are groomers.

[@tresvegan3633]

So incredibly powerful I love how you bring it all home towards the end of your videos. There is no escaping it, we have to stand for freedom for all, or accept freedom for none. 💔💔💔 I really hope for a future where we ALL have decided every living person and animal deserves to be free. Deserves emancipation 🙏🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@maddyh.2053]

I love all your videos and I appreciate how much work and research goes into them!!! Thank u for all u do!!

[@lukaluukaa]

your username fits you, this video is very well-put together and it is engaging despite its troubling contents, u got a subscriber

[@gs08302]

💀 what on earth…. I had to pause and reread the ss from 18:40 - 18:56 Absolutely flabbergasted

[@DameDarcy999]

Shanspeare, i heart you ❤ i hear you ❤️ and i see those cut scars on your arm. Glad your here with us and letting your intellect out instead of internalizing , like you may have done when you were younger

[@TheYoubregje]

I love the conclusion of the video, feminist struggle is class struggle ✊

[@leyrounni1304]

Woop woop, new Shanspeare video ❤️

[@Shanspeare]

Let’s goooooo ❤🎉

[@NeroCloud]

when one paycheck could pay for it all. good times good times

[@joylox]

I know a lot of times when people talk about Conservative Christians, they're referring to Evangelicals mostly, but I feel like a lot of these ideas are similar to Anabaptist (Mennonite, Amish, Hutterites) groups in their hatred for modernity, and protection of an in-group. Nothing against those groups on their own, people are allowed to believe what they want, but as a progressive Christian, I can't help but find a lot of those ideas are flawed, as they lack the love and inclusion of Jesus. I like my garden, I like sewing, and I like not having to work a full time job, but I also love sharing the tasks with someone, being able to to contract work, and not putting all the pressure on my husband to provide everything. I have chronic pain so my husband does a lot more around the house, but we see each other as more equal. While I may seem more traditional, we have a sense of equality, balance, and partnership that a lot of people in these circles miss out on.

[@Tipsywibble]

Thank you for making this video, so well put together and well researched! Also super appreciate the citations and resources at the end, feel like this subject is ridiculously overlooked and needs talking about more. I've worked mostly small retail jobs my whole adult life and finally reached a breaking point, felt like I couldn't do anything else but couldn't stand to be where I was either. At the same time I was lucky enough to marry my best friend who made more in one shift than I ever did in a full pay period. He's been nothing but supportive of my decision to leave work and says my mental health comes first and foremost. He knows I want to find a career I'm passionate about, but I'm also shit at house cleaning and cooking. He doesn't push labels on me, only ever encourages me to be who I am and dive into my passions! And he loves me for it! We're equally messy but know how to combine forces and tidy up whenever necessary (right before we have company usually). I freaking wish I could share this love with others to see how differently their lives might be were they to experience it, or how differently they might see themselves... Unconditional love is a powerful thing. Thank you again for the video! Subscribed n' getting notified. (also totally tried Bright Cellars before and never got a bad bottle, highly recommend if ya have the income for it! Or just get the trial and cancel, you'll get a bunch of good wine for cheap)

[@aubreynaulin6207]

A lot of tradwives may not have a job/career but they do have hustles and some of them are straight-up grifters. Like I know some who have little homemade goods businesses and that’s whatever but there’s a TON of them who will sell you a $1000 course on how to live like her.

[@yaelw5986]

Thank you for all the very hard work poured into these videos. Amazing as always.

[@Syk5]

This and Philosophy Tube’s latest video pair so well together 🍷👌

[@Eve.v]

✨🙏‼️ aprons ‼️🙏✨ ❣️💖💫 pyrex 💫💖❣️ 🥰😉😘 *pseudoscientific misogyny* 😘😉🥰