Thanks for being here on your videos. I used this today to warm up before my flight or in the pattern so thank you for that, and these are timelessly good videos, and I offered them to my students as well all the best neal Southwest Florida.
@philconey115 жыл бұрын
Just started flight school. My CFI explained traffic patterns in a way that muddied the waters and was extremely confusing. You cleared it up perfectly. This channel is awesome.
@Monpano646 жыл бұрын
I thought both your part 1 and Part 2 videos were spot on. Thank you for putting together such comprehensive and well animated videos. I’m a 200 hour new pilot and love to continually expand my knowledge base and appreciate the time and effort your putting in to make us all think about what we’re doing with the point of all doing this safer and consistent.
@wpmorel6 жыл бұрын
In a nutshell: for runway of heading R get reciprocal R-180 (or R+180). Call that D (for downwind heading.) Then calculate the 45, call it FFF (fly forty Five). If left pattern (less) FFF = D-45. If right, FFF=D+45 Then just fly at 2 mi distance, keeping the wing pointing at the runway until you see FFF on the side of the Direction Indicator that matches that wing (and runway) Then turn to FFF until at mid point, then turn D. This helped a lot. Thank you! I guess if you’re far enough out, you can see the quickest way to get to FFF and turn that way when at least 2 nm. One can try to mentally draw a paperclip with a 45 bend, off the DI. Good idea to use heading bug for the runway to orientate oneself.
@ashwinlasrado71143 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sunnyrawal6566 жыл бұрын
You just might've given a big boost on making my approaches more accurate, AMAZING JOB! Didn't know I can do these methods.
@wombatairlines5 жыл бұрын
Very informative and concise. Thank you for your videos! One suggestion regarding pattern intercept heading calculation. With your current approach you have to calculate 2 unknown variables: first - downwind heading, and then - the intercept heading. This might sound more complicated than it should be. Instead you could just use the known runway heading as follows: for left-hand pattern - RWY heading + 135; for right-hand pattern - RWY heading - 135. In case of a negative result, add 360 to it. Should be much easier to remember and calculate.
@tqaquotes93793 жыл бұрын
Very informative and to the point, also very well prepared animations. Both videos are outstanding. 👍🛫🛬
@andreimoisin27656 жыл бұрын
I'm flying traffic patterns from the beginning of the summer but nobody explained this to me like you did! Nice work! :)
@juanpennisi12023 жыл бұрын
2:36 you should've seen my reaction. You got me!
@midwestoffgrid91906 жыл бұрын
New sub.. Thanks ERAU for providing such detailed content. There's so many others out there that have YT videos, but don't come close to the detail and visualizations AND in flight information provided to new or existing pilots. Thank you for providing such great content. And I love the 360 videos too. Nick
@mphamphatso81364 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at that sky diving incident cartoon
@saiajin823 жыл бұрын
I laughed as well, dude got taken for a ride. 🤣🤣🤣
@larryehrlich87024 жыл бұрын
Retired MD-11 Captain, watching this video was making me nauseous. Standard traffic pattern is left traffic unless you are flying a helicopter. If my memory is correct traffic pattern altitude is 600 feet AGL to 1500 feet AGL, with recommend traffic pattern altitude of 1,000 AGL. The 45° entry is recommended but not required. Read the AIM before you have a melt down.
@daansken20723 жыл бұрын
changed over time
@johanndaart73265 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Thank you!
@jlhrstv2 жыл бұрын
Traffic pattern legs are identified incorrectly According to the AIM: "1. Upwind leg. A flight path parallel to the landing runway in the direction of landing. 6. Departure leg. The flight path which begins after takeoff and continues straight ahead along the extended runway centerline. The departure climb continues until reaching a point at least 1/2 mile beyond the departure end of the runway and within 300 feet of the traffic pattern altitude."
@MJ-vt8sj6 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a great, detailed video on traffic pattern!
@TicketAirline3 жыл бұрын
This is the lesson no CFI ever taught me.
@michaelavramidis64556 жыл бұрын
I fly at a non towered airport and my instructor gave me the skill set similar to this and would appreciate if more pilots without non towered experiences would watch this because I have had to deal with a significant amount of pilots who think a non towered airport is a free for all
@ERAUSpecialVFR6 жыл бұрын
michael avramidis Trust us.....we hope they’re watching too. :-)
@windowsxseven4 жыл бұрын
you say it like it isn't?
@FamilyManMoving Жыл бұрын
@@windowsxseven Cirrus pilot? ;)
@windowsxseven Жыл бұрын
@@FamilyManMoving yes, how did you know?
@thecommentator64504 жыл бұрын
thank you man your explanations are awesome
@daffidavit6 жыл бұрын
My airport has a traffic procedure prescribed in the Airport Facility directory. That is an FAA rule. But the County that provides services has a conflicting noise abatement rule that is entirely different from the AF Directory. One day I was following the noise abatement procedure and the ATC controller admonished me for not following his interpretation of the FAA rule. The next time I followed it and a county employee told me I was violating a noise abatement procedure approved between the county and the local community. I brought this conflict to the attention of the tower the next time I flew. A different controller said, "yes, I can see the problem". However, I decided that in accord with the U.S. primacy clause of the U.S. Constitution where a federal Law supersedes any local law, I decided to follow the traffic pattern as prescribed in the AFD. I'm sure the county had may have had issues with this, but I decided to stay out of any conflict and let the two jurisdictions work out the issue. I never heard anything about this after that. However, It is my opinion that the FAA takes primacy over any state, county or local law and should be followed. If in doubt, follow the FAA regulation. No judge in his right mind will rule that an inferior entity will supersede a Federal entity.
@drghartnangamn5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@andrearruda54656 жыл бұрын
Your video is perfect. thanks ....
@lostrook16 жыл бұрын
im confused about how you know when you're on the entry heading point; in the example it was 005; can you clarify the trick used in the example; thanks
@lespierce15656 жыл бұрын
If you get confused as to what is the proper procedure you can always as the tower to "vector you" to the entry point or the threshold. Towers would rather do this than have pilots make errors.
@valddeirful5 жыл бұрын
instrução excelente, parabéns.
@Herbster4724 жыл бұрын
where the heck can a guy find those nice airport diagrams like the one pictured at 0:50!?
@esalenchik4 жыл бұрын
Become a student of Embry Riddle Aeronautical University... it's their own guide for students
@done67384 жыл бұрын
You finish your example of a left pattern with a diagram of an entry to a right pattern. Consistency is less confusing.
@rlb966 жыл бұрын
I can see where this is needed for someone who flies with only a whiskey compass, but if you have a heading indicator staring you in the face it's pretty easy to pick out the reciprocal and eye ball the 45. If you can't maybe you should go back to school and learn some basic geometry.
@fanoooooo66 жыл бұрын
Cheers fella. Top bloke
@JRobAviation5 жыл бұрын
Dropped from an airplane? That made me laugh
@mckaylundtuttle79626 жыл бұрын
good animation, made it simple !
@hammadmaqsood788410 ай бұрын
0:45 - anyone know what book he's using?
@jaco39283 жыл бұрын
Very confusing indeed, but all is possible! Just wish they made it for non pilots not pilots already in training!🤣
@ashsmitty22445 жыл бұрын
.It is not wise to direct aircraft to the same point in the sky, i.e.entry points, imho.
@mchanterelle Жыл бұрын
Having a bit of trouble with the math. Can someone explain it further.. like, more in-depth?
@ehsan835 жыл бұрын
very informative thank you
@lennyfernandes6032 жыл бұрын
ineresting!
@msblexpress6 жыл бұрын
In all my years associated with aviation, I have never listened to such mumbo jumbo excessive computation about the simple airport traffic pattern.
@ERAUSpecialVFR6 жыл бұрын
J Hammond You learn something new everyday. Thanks for watching!
@DrLumpyDMus2 жыл бұрын
It's exactly the same "Mumbo Jumbo" as in the FAA publications.
@oren58897 жыл бұрын
Why can't I just add or subtract 45 to the active runway and cut out the rest of the math? What am I missing?
@ERAUSpecialVFR7 жыл бұрын
Adding or subtracting 45 degrees to the active runway heading would put you on a dogleg base to final, and not a 45 degree entry to the downwind. The rest of the math is there to teach you how to find the reciprocal runway heading, determine your 45 degree entry heading, and then determine where (in relation to the airfield) you need to position the airplane in order to properly approach the airfield on a 45 degree downwind entry.
@itsjustemma18534 жыл бұрын
@@ERAUSpecialVFR good stuff, I was about to ask the same question
@franzfoneboneaviation40174 жыл бұрын
At time 3:06 255 degree to enter???
@timkuttler47734 жыл бұрын
Franz Fonebone aviation Entrypoint for RWY12 is 2nm at 075° EAST FROM AIRPORT. ALTITUDE 1000ft PATTERN ALTITUDE! 1. From entrypoint fly heading 255° (WEST) until 0,5-1,0 nm before RWY12 2. Turn right heading 300° to enter the downwind and follow it to base 3. In base, fly a 90°-Turn to heading 120° to line up with RWY12 The altitude at the entrypoint is not the indicated height of the altimeter. Look at the charts and figure out the airport elevation above MSL. Then add the patter altitude. Example: Airport Elevation | 300ft MSL Pattern ALT | 1000ft 300+1000=1300ft So make sure you maintain 1300ft at the entrypoint
@technovan11333 жыл бұрын
Rwy 5 ? never hear ! Rwy 10,entrance heading 160 45 degrees down wind head 190 , base heading 100 and final heading 010 Rwy 10!
@DrLumpyDMus2 жыл бұрын
8:04 Downwind "about a half mile away" from the RWY. Let's fact check that, please. Shouldn't that be "One mile"
@ahmadtheaviationlover19375 жыл бұрын
I learn better with pictures and cartoons
@rfresh10113 жыл бұрын
I've been flying for over 20 years...I've never seen or heard such unnecessary details on how to enter the pattern at a 45 degree angle...way too much information and way too much math...you should be able to figure out what a 45 degree leg looks like and fly it...you're not going to get busted if you end up flying a 44 degree entry leg...you don't need all that math to figure out what heading will give you EXACTLY 45 degrees...so relax and just figure out what a 45 degree leg should look like approximately...and fly that ground track...this video, honestly, I don't know why they made it so difficult and intimidating for new pilots.
@FamilyManMoving Жыл бұрын
I'm a PPL student. Yesterday I flew VFR from an untowered airport, under a Class B, inside the DC SFRA, surrounded by no-go zones with altitude/vector corridors. Stayed under heavies, dodged helicopters, student pilots and other GAs. Flew to a towered airport outside the SFRA, then returned to the SFRA/origin airport, getting ATC and SFRA clearance on the way in. Had to compute entry/departure for both fields, plus differentials in the sky as traffic resulted in diversions. In the last two weeks I've weaved between two restricted military bases (one home to Air Force One) and a nuclear power plant, and also did pattern work near a three-letter agency whose acronym will get this post flagged. All that goes to say your advice works for simple places, in uncluttered airspaces, with few or no complexities. For the rest of us, there will be math. Flight skills are like other things in life: better to have it and not need it, than to need and not have it. Yeah, we have ADS-B (it is required in the SFRA), but "follow the magenta line" only works when your gear does. FWIW, there are probably few places you will get air/nav/ATC experience as a student pilot, more than the DC SFRA/FRZ (aka: Circle of Doom). Have a great day!
@elprofe75535 жыл бұрын
Nice, I am mot interested in flaying, to complicated
@DrLumpyDMus2 жыл бұрын
Good call. Flaying is dangerous.
@ahmadtheaviationlover19374 жыл бұрын
I never use traffic patterns on landing airplanes, on flight simulators. I just used common sense and spatial awareness of my distance to the airport if my distance is too short to the runway make a go around ASAP, if the distance from the airport is large enough to configure the aircraft for landing.
@DrLumpyDMus2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinkin' "Common Sense" would be to USE the prescribed traffic patterns. FS, of course, hasn't the dramatic repercussions that real flight does when everyone interprets things differently.
@FamilyManMoving Жыл бұрын
Think of the pattern as a bonus/challenge round in the flight sim. Cruise flight is easy and fun. Pattern work is initially arduous - there is a lot of task saturation while you are trying to fly - but the challenge can be fun. And, once you take your love of aviation to the sky you won't be the cause of "that guy" stories when you revert to your old flight sim ways.
@danasher51505 жыл бұрын
gosh! why it's so complicated 😂
@houstonhelicoptertours10065 жыл бұрын
So that we all stay safe and sound up there.
@DrLumpyDMus2 жыл бұрын
What, exactly, seems complicated? Nothing more than simple arithmetic. Everyone head toward HERE then turn toward THERE. Land safe, fly again tomorrow. Studying the material (imagine that) seems to help most students.
@crazyc993 жыл бұрын
ALTERTEAUEOD HAHAHA
@bidpar6 жыл бұрын
Very confusing. Do real pilots do these math ? I have seen videos where they just put some numbers in the autopilot box as per ATC direction.
@ERAUSpecialVFR6 жыл бұрын
Airliners with a Flight Management System (FMS) handle a lot of this work for you for sure. When flying VFR, ATC vectors and charted routes are much less common, so pilots need to know how to approach an airport, hence the math.
@bidpar6 жыл бұрын
Right. But I doubt the commercial airlines pilots would be able to work on this math after few years in service. They are so used to those autopilot, FMS boxes that they might miss turns if they do these maths themselves unless they prepare before take off or during the flight.
@DrLumpyDMus2 жыл бұрын
That "Difficult Math" is simple arithmetic. It's also something you do all the time. There's plenty of more complex concepts involved in flight. Simple addition and subtraction should not be a challenge to most adults, I'd think.
@msblexpress4 жыл бұрын
Ohh my God. Who would ever go through that?
@Pipiopy6 жыл бұрын
I'd rather land on a very spacious field and avoid all this nonsense
@biaggiwins5 жыл бұрын
Sounds boring. You are missing out.
@DrLumpyDMus2 жыл бұрын
Consider bowling or trout fishing. Much safer for US.