Tragic Ending! Women’s 4x400m Finals | ACC Track & Field Championships 2023

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[@AzucaNegra16]

It would have been nice to hear the final results FeedSpeed.

[@NoNameEagle1]

Duke was DQ. Miami won

[@BRIGRANSTROM]

​@@NoNameEagle1It would have been nice to see the results in this video. A VERY POOR VIDEO.

[@NoNameEagle1]

@@BRIGRANSTROM no english native, sorry

[@BRIGRANSTROM]

@@NoNameEagle1 No Polish sausage, SORRY.

[@sambro7]

She def drifted to her right even though she had plenty of room on the inside.

[@iggydip]

Exactly.

[@karenramcharan8983]

The opponent hit it out of her hand though!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@susisorglos6125]

Look precisely: Miami had always straight Lan2, Duke left their Lane Nr.1 and crossed by herself.

[@bartg-gc7hf]

5:28-5:35 reveals how wide Duke runner's baton arm naturally swings wide. She needs 1-1/2 lanes to cover that body movement.

[@MrChickensnatcher]

Looks like she drifted into Miami's lane as well.

[@bexactlyyy]

I thought that too. Good for other sports tho I'm sure

[@RBZ-1]

Yeah if she just stayed in her lane it was a win, and then not to go pick it up cost them 2nd place as well.

[@emmas1082]

@@RBZ-1 she knocked the baton out of someone else’s hand

[@emmas1082]

@@RBZ-1 she was looking when she hit it out of her hand, and it looked like it was done on purpose

[@douglasmiller346]

As it has ALWAYS been the rule .. exchange the baton to your left hand so if you're tucked in on the inside post you avoid accidents like this.

[@superslide100]

Yep relay rule # 1. Some runners (right handed ones) will switch hands down the stretch to the finish. Just because they prefer their stronger grip as the push for the finale 10m. However on a 400m run, its always meant for you to protect the baton with your body. Great race either way.

[@chironjo]

Great point.

[@acornlucy2]

The other ‘rule’ is you must handoff with the right hand. It’s a right hand to left hand pass. Most efficient for a handoff. If she has ever run any other leg than anchor, she has practiced switching the baton to the right hand for handoff. Most of my teammates on the 4x400 relay team automatically switched the baton to the right hand as soon as they received it, while they were still getting up to speed, to maintain maximum speed at the handoff. I ran anchor but the coach made me switch immediately to the right hand also.

[@RealLifeFinance]

That was one of the greatest 4x400 collegiate races I have ever witnessed.

[@drv7362]

slow mo: 8:08 runner #5 in final stretch runs on lane 1, 8:13 runner 5 drifts right to lane 2 and gets too close to runner fm Miami who ran straight with her same arm swing motion

[@bullcrap9409]

Nope. Got to 8:08. The Miami runners left arm moves differently in the first stride than it does wham it knocks the baton out. Her elbow straightens out more, hand swings a little wider, shoulder rolls a little further back, and then the arm wraps more around her back to complete the arc.

[@michaelnewman880]

​@@bullcrap9409nonsense. Her lane, so she can do what she wants

[@Mickyficky75]

Swinging the baton outward, to the side with a loose grip, at the end of the stick!!!! 😂 Young athletes take heed, you must have firm grip of baton and swing fists (hip to earlobe). We all do this in drills!!! I saw Abby Stiener with the awkward outswing of arms last year, but many athletes should avoid that type arm swing. ...but that's okay, I feel bad for the Duke athletes, but they will be just fine. Come back strong in outdoor. Blessings ❤

[@coolmacatrain9434]

6:17 Knocking the baton was down on purpose, you can clearly see the runner opened her hand out flat to hit the baton....

[@garyb2392]

Tragic? Do people not know what tragic means? It’s a bummer and bizarre but tragic ? NO!

[@wfsm1th]

people died man. show some respect

[@thomasbraun2052]

This is one of the worst disasters in history, show some class

[@garyb2392]

@@wfsm1th oh, like deaths from testicular cancer? This is worse right?

[@garyb2392]

@@wfsm1th like kids starving in America. This is clearly more “tragic”

[@Sweenzopic]

Funny

[@GVvoltaire]

My heart dropped. Dam**** That swinging arm movement was devastating. No more swinging wide arms. Keep them close to the body. My heart goes out to the team.

[@antonio00075]

And “stay in her lane” pardon the pun, she would of won

[@BRIGRANSTROM]

Profane.

[@extraordinaryminds6041]

People thinking it's possible to time a perfect knock-out in the last 10m of a 400m relay while lunging for the line ... have never run a 400m relay! Lane 1 drifted into Lane 2, heat of the moment stuff with an unfair, tragic ending, my heart gives her the finish, objectively it's a DNF.

[@TallGenius]

Well said - it’s heartbreaking as a former anchor leg that ran on many relays, but the rules are the rules - if she was present in mind she could have grabbed the baton still cross the line and still got the chip because they only needed a 3rd place finish 😢😢😢

[@1dash133]

@@TallGenius I think McGinnis was "present in mind". She knew exactly what her situation was: she had crossed the finish line without the baton. Under NCAA rules, there is no going back at that point to retrieve the baton, it is an automatic DQ.

[@RealLifeFinance]

She drifted out, no way to argue impediment

[@dn-zb2bj]

Baton needs to be on inside hand as well

[@gregd6706]

There are NO "lanes" after the first two curves.

[@arthur-ri4zo]

Disqualify Miami. She knocked the baton out. It's her responsibility to see where her hands are swinging.

[@andrewvoorhees4062]

Disagree as the Duke runner had plenty of lane to her inside - she chose to run that close to the Miami runner... had the Miami runner gone further near Duke's lane and swung those arms then you would be correct.

[@arthur-ri4zo]

@@andrewvoorhees4062 The Duke runner was in front. It's up to the Miami runner to stay clear of any contact or fouls. Miami knocked it out of her hand period.

[@andrewvoorhees4062]

@@arthur-ri4zo normally I would agree but you can't drift like that... it's been a few years since i was on a track but if I had the lead, the last thing I would want to do is drift towards an opponents "lane", you are asking for contact. If you are Duke and worried about loosing and then drift out, I could see that as blocking or impeding. I'd have to watch the Miami runner to see if she changed her running style at all or if she has a natural swing. If she did change her style, then I would agree with you, otherwise no.

[@arthur-ri4zo]

@@andrewvoorhees4062 If you're in front. How can you tell who, what, or where someone is behind you. It's up to the person behind to stay clear Just like in an autombile accident when you're driving too close to the car in front..

[@andrewvoorhees4062]

You obv never ran... you can see/hear people in your peripheral when they are that close for that long of time... if the Miami runner would have knocked the baton on the curve where she is hugging it to the inside, I would be more inclined to side with you.

[@KenSerpico5450]

The fact she didn't have the baton in hand at the finish line is inconsequential. She won the race.

[@jerrywilliford6840]

She dropped the baton, she lost the race.

[@unfriendlies8000]

I'm not talking rules, just common sense; there were no more runners on either team to receive the baton therefore there is/was no need to have a baton to pass to the next runner. The last hand-off had been done. The final act is/should be to cross the finish line. Again, not rules just truth.

[@j-sin3344]

Purposeful. No need to be that close to anyone.

[@jhavajoe3792]

I really enjoyed that race. The baton drop? One of those things that makes sports interesting as you never know what can happen and nothing is "in the bag." Great heart in all those runners.

[@mohamedgoldstein5565]

Drop? It was knocked out of her hand. But then she was the one not keeping her lane.

[@joethielman5689]

I ALWAYS told my athletes to hold that baton in the hand AWAY from the competition. I saw that coming when both athletes were going into the final turn. They were shoulder to shoulder. NEVER have the baton next to the opposition when that close.

[@rodwoods2108]

Great advice.

[@arnaldogomez9146]

and never cross the line either

[@ltcolumbo9708]

Genius after the fact

[@arnaldogomez9146]

@@ltcolumbo9708 Tell the judges

[@Jimmiecal1]

Would think that its hard to switch hands during a relay

[@johnarmstrong5591]

Beautiful race

[@annmariekeenan6802]

Team mates supportive so nice to see Things happen in relay races .

[@caprice6013]

You drop it. You always go back and pick it up. No matter what. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@bernicemoore5182]

I don't think a runner can step off the track to pick up a baton.

[@Rogerw1nz]

The baton flew out of her hand and she would have had no idea where it went!

[@Mark-gx9dz]

It got knocked out of her hand because she was trying to cheat by moving into her aponant lane. Am I the only one that Cleary saw this

[@lamh5265]

Apparently most saw the glass half full...you saw negative empty......doesn't mean you are wrong though.

[@user-oi4jh8bq3y]

Why would a racer move to the right🤫 hush now your not making sence .

[@user-oi4jh8bq3y]

(opponent)

[@qv2539]

I totally agree. This was so tragic that I've been in a deepest darkest depression in the last 6 months. The hopelessness is simply unbearable. 😢😢😢😢😢

[@mohamedgoldstein5565]

I know. I could not sleep for 6 months.

[@floridaoceancurrents]

😂😂😂😂!!

[@TallGenius]

As a former anchor leg on many relays this is some heart breaker shit - damn I feel so bad for her because she ran a hell of a anchor leg 😢😢😢😢😢

[@koolsmoothfan]

could she have gone back and picked up the baton? she still had plenty of time, if she had done it immediately

[@RealLifeFinance]

@@koolsmoothfan I think she had no idea where it had gone.

[@RealLifeFinance]

I loved my life teams 4x races. I was usually start leg or middle. Ran anchor only twice, Won one and faded to 3rd in one. Exciting stuff.

[@_Francois1]

​@@koolsmoothfan yea she could have but she probably thought it dropped after she crossed the line and no one motioned to her to pick it up.

[@acornlucy2]

I ran the 4x400 in high school and college. Almost always anchor leg. I loved it! But it’s tough. Once in a high school match, I had to run the first leg AND the anchor. I ran the first leg then ran directly across the field to cheer on the anchor runner. When I got there, coach was there and the anchor runner had injured her hamstring during last minute stretching. Coach grabbed my arm and shoved me onto the track and yelled, “you’ll have to run this leg, too. Just do the best you can.” And we won! It was great fun! Coach had me run anchor in every race after that.

[@jadabengston5454]

How does the baton fall out with her hand moving forward, slow mo will see the contact( not intentional) knock it out of her hand.

[@1dash133]

At the 6:17 time mark, McGinnis is clearly running in lane 1 (watch her feet). By the time she reaches the finish line at the 6:25 time mark, McGinnis is running in lane 2 (both feet in lane 2). People who say that Miami instigated this infraction are blind, biased, or both.

[@starlight7830]

Yep !

[@edcarman4704]

Miami fan, huh.

[@1dash133]

@@edcarman4704 Actually, I'm a Duke fan and generally don't care for Florida schools. But that's because of my concern for academics, not because of sports interests.

[@edcarman4704]

@@1dash133 Whatever you say, Sebastian the Ibis.

[@1dash133]

@@edcarman4704 8:08 time mark.

[@lottie8970]

That’s some bizarre track colouring! Its like watching it in black and white with very few colour throughout the whole video lol

[@starlight7830]

8:15 McGinnis finishes the race in the second lane ! Therefore, McGinnis gravitated towards the second runner !

[@S0ulinth3machin3]

yep. Good observation.

[@garydoyle7155]

lane incursion is not the DQ not crossing the finish lane with baton in possession is - - I think the announcer said if she would have stopped and recovered the baton they still probably would have gotten second place because 1 and 2 were that far ahead. When I ran sprints and relays back in the 1960s if you dropped the baton during a hand off you were DQed never mind not crossing the finish line with it The first runners out of the blocks must stay in their respective lanes so they don't get an unfair advantage until the lane stagger is equalized

[@wtcashel]

Watch the placement of the last Duke runner's feet as she nears the finish line! She wanders out of her lane and makes contact with the Miami runners elbow/arm. A lane vilolation.

[@acornlucy2]

Your hands usually get really sweaty by the end of a 400 m run. I’ve run many races as the 4x400 anchor runner. It’s hard to hang into a wet baton by the end of the race.

[@sircxx8621]

It’s not if you hold it tighter ffs. It’s just unbelievable recklessness.

[@IAMPLEDGE]

From World Athletics Technical Rules in force From 1st November 2019: 24.6 Baton specifications and interaction guidelines: 24.6.1 A baton shall be used for all Relay Races held in the Stadium and shall be carried by hand throughout the race. At least for competitions conducted under paragraphs 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.6 of the International Competition rule, each baton shall be numbered and of a different colour and may include a timing transponder. Note: If possible, the allocation of the colour to each lane or starting order position should be shown on the start list. 24.6.2 Athletes are not permitted to wear gloves or to place material (other than those permitted by Rule 6.4.3 of the Technical Rules) or substances on their hands in order to obtain a better grip of the baton. 24.6.3 If dropped, the baton shall be recovered by the athlete who dropped it. They may leave their lane to retrieve it provided that, by doing so, they do not lessen the distance to be covered. In addition, where the baton is dropped in such a way that it moves sideways or forward in the direction of running (including beyond the finish line), the athlete who dropped it, after retrieving it, must return at least to the point where it was last in their hand, before continuing in the race. Provided these procedures are adopted where applicable and no other athlete is impeded, dropping the baton shall not result in disqualification. If an athlete does not follow this Rule, their team shall be disqualified. ----------------------------------------------------------- It would seem that keeping hold of the baton is part of the runner's responsibility on their leg. If the baton leaves their hand unintentionally it would appear to always be considered that they have dropped it. I can't find any rules which specify a foul caused by another runner causing the baton to be dropped.

[@jamesw71]

if that was the case you are saying it is legal to knock the baton out on purpose....pretty sure that would not fly in any competition.

[@johnnyappleseed2058]

Thanks for letting us know what the decision was!

[@TheBrawlBox]

I know, utter shite not to conclude it.

[@mack595]

Wow!

[@Regnisab]

Tragic would have been falling and have the baton drive through her skull. This is more like, "Oh, shit, that sucks" level stuff.

[@S0ulinth3machin3]

it's more amusing than it is tragic.

[@WavesofJava]

John, thought the same

[@roughtakes7271]

Two overused words describing lots of recent videos are in Sport its "Tragic" and with Astronomy its "Terrifying" - or even worse is when any given title doesn't represent the content at all.... ;-)

[@StuMarston]

Isn't it good enough to carry the baton for 1599 meters?

[@mts7274]

She crossed into the other lane like four strides before reaching the finish, lol. She was totally gassed at that point. 😂

[@rocket5557]

There are no lanes in the final leg of a 4x400.

[@mts7274]

@@rocket5557 Yes, but there ARE lanes on the TRACK. There is no advantage to drifting to outside lanes or into another runner. This is what fatigue does to an athlete.

[@jdr4393mwm]

I bet she won’t run with the baton in that hand again. Pretty surprised being at that level that she made this mistake. Coaches should probably investigate in to why she did not know this. This wasn’t a simple mistake but a massive mistake on her part.

[@atatterson6992]

And if she was being passed on the other side? "Massive mistake"? Perhaps you should show us how it's done... can you run a 440?

[@daytonagreg8765]

@@atatterson6992 Actually yes, @jdr4393mwm (if you recognize his handle) is an elite, world class athlete running the 440 with one Olympic Gold medal and 2 world championships.

[@robertacoleman784]

SINCE IT WAS KNOCKED OUT OF HER HAND! IT WASN'T HER FAULT!

[@anthonyholdford4041]

If she had stayed in her lane near the end that probably wouldn't have happened.She went right over into the other lane,hence the collision & baton drop. .Even a foot on the line is a DSQ I believe.

[@leroyrussell8766]

Once the runners all moved to the inside lane, after the very first lap, there are no lanes. Run where you want, though I do believe there can be "interference" rules that come into play, if it is deemed that you purposely collided with another runner. That's not what happened here.

[@thehookert]

Finish line was just steps from the turn. She ran a straight line...which is obviously the fastest way to get to the finish line.

[@gregd6706]

There are NO "lanes" after the first two corners.

[@michaeldevaney5728]

I imagine a lot of men with very wet trousers

[@leanajo754]

Those batons are pretty slick. I ran track in junior high and high school. I was in the 4X100 relay in junior high and the 4X800 relay in high school. Those batons are very slick and I remember rubbing my palms against my shorts, to keep my hands dry, when I waited for my turn to get the baton. They can slip out very easily if you had sweaty palms and not a good grip on them.

[@ChuckNorrisUltra]

You changed from 100m to 800m relay? There's no way I could've done that.

[@Lou-eye]

I was also in a 4x100 relay, never did the baton fly out of our hand.

[@leanajo754]

@@ChuckNorrisUltra By the time I got to high school, I wasn't as fast as in middle school. So I got moved up to 800 in high school. I had great endurance but not as fast.

[@jackson71je]

that was a great race from both teams but a tragic way to end it. Rather lose on the track then get the baton knocked. Glad to see the Duke team circle and support each other. They went on to dominate the ACC outdoors so happy ending.

[@John-nz6jb]

Deliberately hit Duke runner!

[@travelgirl747]

​@@John-nz6jb she did nothing of the sort

[@urrywest]

Shit happens.

[@alanjones9659]

The Miami girls arm was in the air space of the duke girls lane. Race should go to Duke!!!

[@annawarner1014]

Miami runner knocked off the baton from the hand of the girl in the white outfit.

[@LINDATHRALL-pb8zu]

THE 1.500 METER WHEELCHAIR RACE IS ONE THE GREATEST RACES OF ALL TIME YOU LIVE AND BREATHE WHEELCHAIR RACING

[@bmxbandito9]

This makes me want to go for a sprint around my neighborhood

[@iainbarclay6495]

If it was knocked out of her hand - even accidentally - she should not be penalized.

[@S0ulinth3machin3]

she drifted into lane 2 and the rule says you gotta cross the line with the baton.

[@hernancasasbuenas1636]

Why do they say tragic ending? It was a fantastic race. Congratulations Ladies.

[@adrianwright8685]

Was a great race with a tragic end as she dropped baton before completing

[@emmas1082]

@@adrianwright8685 it was hit out of her hand. For a fraction of a second, you can see the cheater glance down to the left, so she knew what she was doing.

[@amandaaccica]

Because although Duke crossed the line first, they were disqualified for the dropped baton. They only needed a 3rd place finish to clinch their very first outright indoor title. So not only did they not win the race, they didn't win the title either. And she had like 5 seconds to run back and grab it before the 3rd place team finished.

[@geezer5357]

unpleasant interpretation@@emmas1082

[@hardworkmcgee2998]

You know why

[@powerofone1645]

She knocked it out of her hand. She knew what she was doing. Even after it was knocked out her arm again swiped her hip. Arms all over the place. shame.

[@C19hoax21]

I'm not a huge track guy but even if the Duke girl picked up the baton and came back across the finish line wouldn't she have been disqualified for stepping across the line (and into Miami's lane), on her final step before crossing the finish line?

[@mariaaliciazeballoscossio915]

Espectacular. 😮😮

[@emeraldphotography7363]

Just by looking at the baton and how wide her arms was swinging, I knew the outcome before I saw it actually happening in the video. Great race tho. Stay in your lane too.

[@cyrilignatiuskendrick6663]

It was a great race. These are truly good relay teams and they really performed. In my estimation, the baton drop is merely an odd detail, even though it brought a DQ.

[@anthonycaruso8443]

Anchor leg for Duke runs like a girl.She swings her arms lto r.then r to l.Likely to hit another runner.Arms should move front to back,not sideways

[@emmas1082]

It looks to me like it was done on purpose. The other runner looked down to the left and knocked it out of her hand that was no accident.

[@WilliamMurray-lr1bb]

@@emmas1082 I don't agree .... if that was planned contact to dislodge the baton , the Miami runner wouldn't have waited till the last yard and a two hundredth of a second difference .... it was pure bad luck !

[@emmas1082]

@@WilliamMurray-lr1bb if you look at how it happened you will see that the girl who knocked the baton out actually looked down to her left before she did it.

[@veronicadamico7976]

It was done on purpose

[@katmay.]

Well she technically still won in my book. She was so exhausted so as soon as the baton was hit from her hand by the girl she didn’t even notice it was gone

[@CASABaJA]

No, technically she lost! The whole technique of a relay race is to start with a baton and finish with a baton.

[@youknownada2326]

​@@CASABaJA If some cheat who didn't want to lose, knocks it out your hand, you shouldn't be disqualified

[@Watkinsstudio]

She lost.

[@tonywright8294]

Moron

[@denesebuckner3484]

Liar she dropped it swinging wildly 😂😂😂 yall lose 2 ..her mistake but head/ face

[@stephenhartley7219]

She didn't drop it,it was knocked out of her hand whilst being challenged for the lead. Therefore any intelligent person would say the runner challenging was at fault 😮

[@exploidur]

A few steps before finish line, runner on lane 1 invaded lane 2. Runner on lane 2 ran in middle of her lane.

[@jujutrini8412]

I spotted that too.

[@acornlucy2]

There are no requirements to stay in your lane after the staggered start and the first 2 turns.

[@exploidur]

@@acornlucy2 Nonetheless, runner on lane 1 ran into runner on lane 2. Runner on lane 2 stayed at center of her lane. Arms touched because of this. All fault lies on lane 1 runner.

[@yuckyool]

That will be a life lesson. The value of sport.

[@theaquariancontrarian3316]

Damn that straight up blows lol. If the Duke chick didn't cross into Miami's lane, then this wouldn't have happened. Crossing into a lane on its own can be grounds for disqualification. In addition, even if the runner wasn't deliberately trying to impede their opponent an impedance took place nonetheless which is definitely grounds for disqualification. At that point the dropped baton is almost a secondary moot point.

[@suzylarry1]

That DQ is hard to take , they were right there . Could the officials not point to the baton to get her to pick it up and finish , be it second with her assuming she had crossed the line

[@russellmoore1533]

Would holding the baton in the middle instead of the end have helped?

[@jupeter24]

I think it feels more natural to hold it on the end as opposed to the middle: if you hold it in the middle it can kind of hit against your wrist when you're running, does that make sense? And you don't want to accidently knock it out of your hand. So, I always held the baton at the end, like the Duke runner did. I think most people do this, it feel like a better grip this way.

[@KenSerpico5450]

Whether or not she had the baton in hand or not at the finish line is inconsequential, as long as she finished first.

[@CASABaJA]

You obviously have no idea how a relay race works!

[@GordonBowater]

I admire the reaction of her teammates. She must have felt horrible losing that baton.

[@Yourmumstinksofpiss]

Losing? It was knocked out her hand pure and simple.

[@lyzehalbert1408]

I really felt it for her n her team...imagine working so hard to win n this happened

[@Mike-cs9jr]

It happened so close to the finish she may have thought it occurred at the line.

[@alphaomega8373]

Meh, stuff happens.

[@shirlynewberry6788]

"Losing" the baton and having it knocked out of your hand are two different things entirely.

[@dimensionexo.]

I vote to let them keep the"w" - It clearly wasn't a drop 🥇🥈

[@hairtoss7975]

Nope, they did not finish with the baton.

[@dimensionexo.]

@@hairtoss7975 I would imagine that decision will be highly contested - Right ? *

[@bob9724]

she hit her arm intensionatly

[@MrRobYoung]

It is so TRAGIC!

[@Blackhansons]

America future looking bright💪💪

[@ynotbthe1540]

I initially felt really bad for the Duke runner. But it is definitely the Duke anchor leg's own fault, since she crossed over into the Miami runner's lane!

[@adamsoutdoors]

Lanes don’t matter in the end of 4x400

[@ynotbthe1540]

@@adamsoutdoors I stand corrected. But she did seem to move over in front of the Miami runner. It is really a shame, since all the Duke runner had to do was finish I believe third or fourth.

[@adamsoutdoors]

@@ynotbthe1540 I’m sure she did, trying to block her, move her out, slow her down just a step to get the win. All part of racing, unfortunately, or fortunately it didn’t work out for her in this case. Had huge impact in this race.

[@ynotbthe1540]

@@adamsoutdoors, it was a huge impact on the whole competition, since it cost Duke a shot at winning the whole meet.

[@michaelkool333]

baton, laughable, it's like holding cash and handing it to your friend. what year is this you fools.

[@tonymurray814]

The video cut off. What was the verdict?

[@Coolyguy27]

The other runner came in too cloSe to her. So close that she couldn't bring her arm in a forward motion. That was interference without a doubt ! That is a shame the other runner might as well slapped it out of her hand. As far as I am concerned ? The judges screwed up horribly. Very sad.

[@oldblack15]

Ok, room for improvement, get back and pick it up. If your running style stays the same, change hands for holding the baton.

[@MNP208]

Are runners allow to transfer the baton into the other hand mid race? Maybe this would slow them down? Noticably, he Duke runner flails her arms from side to side. Her form looks very different from most runners.

[@Ruffian144]

Yes, runners are allowed to transfer the baton to the other hand; they can carry it in whatever hand feels most comfortable.. Usually a runner transfers the baton at the beginning of their leg before they've gained speed.

[@1dash133]

@MNP208 McGinnis' form may have been affected by doing the double that day. She had just run (and won!) the individual 400M run two hours earlier, plus she ran in the prelims the day before. So, she can be forgiven for a little break in form.

[@RealLifeFinance]

Yes. I thought same. With her arm swing she needs to carry in left hand when in lead

[@johngmulhatton9794]

Disqualify the runner who knocked that baton out of her hand. An easy way to create a problem if you cannot win a race in proper sportswomenship.

[@shaun24gator]

That Miami player bought her fist up and knocked that the pain out Miami should be disqualified

[@dr.borisbalinkoff5756]

Looked like the baton was deliberately knocked out to me.

[@1dash133]

8:08 time mark. Take another look of the race from the front view. Carefully watch each runner's footsteps. The Miami runner stays true to her lane position. The Duke runner drifts. Now, go back to the same time mark and take a close look at the Miami runner's hand position. Each stroke is exactly the same, the hand position doesn't vary a bit from cycle to cycle. The only thing that caused the collision was the Duke runner's change of lane position. This accident wasn't caused by the Miami runner. There was no evil intent by the Miami runner. The Miami runner just finished the race like she had been trained to do.

[@ReallySmartDad]

This wouldn’t have happened, if the Duke runner did not try to squeeze out the other runner

[@michaelburke2335]

First of all, there are no lanes in this part of the relay!!! Duke drifted into the path of Miami!!!

[@hairtoss7975]

She felt the pressure, tried to block and paid the price.

[@jupeter24]

@@hairtoss7975 yes, I think so. It's very natural to try to block out the other runner in the homestretch though. She should've accepted 2nd and Duke would've won their conference meet (the ACC).

[@SoulStay]

Wow

[@bjornlangoren3002]

If the pep talk is "don't do anything foolish" it might trip them up. "Anything foolish" will be spinning in their heads and become a self fulfilled prophecy.

[@gordonwaite2]

Tragic? I thought someone was going to die! Tragic? No. A valuable lesson for the runner with the extended arm swing? Yes.

[@theTrend7]

Wow that is tragic.....GEESH

[@ronaldluning4010]

Nobody seems to think the Miami runner didn't knock the baton out on purpose?

[@viliamedyer2282]

It's deliberate

[@karlbmiles]

McGuinness was swinging her arms away from her body instead of using arm action to drive the body forward in line with the track, same as your legs should do. You'll notice most non-athlete girls flail their arms and legs off the straight line which cost them speed, track athletes of both sexes are usually very good at keeping hands and feet pushing along the most direct forward line. Coach, McGuinness can run even faster and use less energy by improving her hand and arm technique. I notice the Duke lady running the 3rd leg also swings her baton off the line.

[@wtcashel]

Duke final runner drifted out of her lane and made contact with McGuiness! Watch it again.

[@nikkigsmith4361]

So was Duke given a DNF? The video cuts off.

[@bumpercoach]

the girl whose hand knocked it out did way worse than stepping out of bounds

[@earthscannz5563]

so Russia had nothing to do with it? I am amazed -

[@AkoSoCalPinoy]

😳😳😳😫😫😫

[@stevenfagaly3810]

That is totally unacceptable. Not going back for it was the worst part.

[@davidtierney581]

Unfortunately, the runner dropped the baton because she crossed into the other runner's lane and bumped her arm.

[@kensandberg]

They are not required to run within the lane markings at that point in the race.

[@LD350]

If that's the case...I would be knocking out batons all day and win the race.

[@RealPackCat]

run up behind each runner and yank their batons... Good strategy.

[@chrisschaiberger8814]

She clearly poached into the lane of the runner to her right!!!

[@percyfree9831]

I love th strong gutsy way many Girls ran,ohh I'm a Girl too when folks say Hi Guys,hope not offended with Girl word,sadly so many are

[@Johnrap]

From school record to team loss in a meter.

[@christansdad]

This has happened before. Flash back to Michael Franks (USA) and Innocent Egbunike at the World Cup 1985 - 4 x 400m (and the best relay finish you will ever see). Egbunike crosses the line in 2nd place without the baton and his team is disqualified: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3PCfWWVZ9d9qMk You're welcome.

[@Mickyficky75]

That was a great flashback video!! Looks like one guy was cutting the line, overestimating his incoming teammate's finish and another guy took exception and pushed him out of the way (albeit right into the US runners path). Wow, I never heard of that race. Good video!!

[@MillzSzn]

she did have a weird swinging motion

[@papajohndavid]

The baton wasn't dropped, it was knocked out by her apponent, they do that intentionally to win the race by not giving her room to run freely

[@OrganShifter]

Initially, I was leaning towards it being Hebron's fault as she seemed to impede McGinnis from a side shot. After viewing the finish dead on, it shows a different story. Not only did McGinnis's right arm swing a bit wide, she began to slowly encroach into Hebron's lane before the baton was ever knocked from her hand. This is clearly visible @ the 8:07 mark. Hebron was directly centered within her lane when McGinnis breached the lane division line.

[@RealPackCat]

There are no lanes... That's only for the first 100 yards or so to start the race. Everything else is just positioning towards the inside.

[@mollymelena6104]

Shame. If Duke had stayed in the first lane, likely this wouldn't have happened. Seems like Duke's anchor veered into the path of Miami. Kudos to all runners though. Dramatic finish.

[@alfredgunz1240]

You can see Miami girl looking at the baton. I think it was intentionally hit!

[@terrycole127]

Another sore loser

[@laurysnyder2224]

Duke Blue Devils, Won the Dukes final runners foot came down 1st over finish line .

[@matthewhowe3727]

The Duke's runner arms swing out to the side instead of like a piston up and down. Bound to happen with runners so close together.

[@danni1993]

What a shame. 😣

[@frafoz]

I am no one to criticize but just check her lack of composure during her run, watch it from back and front, she keeps her arms open like she's taking off the ground. How the heck this has not been corrected by her coach since she started athletics puzzles me, unless she started a month ago which I doubt

[@larryroberts4984]

Baton was knock out of her hand.