Trail bike conversion with CYC X1 Stealth

[@mr.browser5941]

Props to you for your patience. I recently ordered mine in September of this year. We're entering November now and the wait is killing me. I hope the wait will reach expectations and be worth it!

[@LierskogenEbikes]

It's good quality carbon frame for XC. The only problem with the Chinese suppliers is this long shipping time.

[@mr.browser5941]

@@LierskogenEbikes you don’t have to tell me twice, on top of the wait time, the double negative is that if it’s coming from a foreign country, tracking numbers tend not to work over seas

[@nofidan2679]

I also ordered a kit, I have contacted cyc several times, they assured me that they will be sent out this week

[@mr.browser5941]

@@nofidan2679 That’s spectacular news!!!! I was holding out on sending them an email yet again, (was going to send them their 6th email by the end of this week) just to check up on their progress. You don’t know how happy I am to hear the news, that’s Nofi!

[@nofidan2679]

@@mr.browser5941 Same here. I Can't wait......

[@mikeunclemike6095]

Beautiful bike.the dog hears you coming a mile away, Just to much motor noise. Lots of power. Very well done.

[@LierskogenEbikes]

Dogs hate the high pitch sound of this motor :)

[@bilw1960]

Good informative review. Wish the Stealth was quieter, but it ticks most other boxes.

[@JohnWII]

Really hoping the video is just making it seem loud. Waiting for the one I ordered back in june but getting nervous seeing just how loud that is.

[@LierskogenEbikes]

Well, motor is not silent. But you can get used to it. It's fun to ride.

[@mtnhack]

@@JohnWII Did you get it? Is it loud?

[@JohnWII]

@@mtnhack yeah it was mad loud. Sold it and got the bbshd, so quiet and felt just as powerful if you don't mind the extra bulk.

[@k04s4]

Wish it was quiet like bbshd, but really like the torque sensor in my x1 pro

[@brendenmtb1872]

Great videos mate I have watched all them on your channel, I would love to see a video of the CYC X1 Stealth's hill climbing ability

[@andrewhunt4777]

Thanks for making these videos.I am looking at buying the cyc x1 stealth so this has helped make my decision.

[@Nickporter17]

You going for it?

[@andrewhunt4777]

@@Nickporter17 I have made the purchase just waiting now the few weeks for delivery.

[@celzolsen8988]

@@andrewhunt4777 "few weeks" haha. how long did it take?

[@northernfreelance5788]

great video mate! really explained the difference in motors

[@mad-b264]

Bad ass bro, This is a manz prize possesion once Built, Yeah i like the style on this, My next build is going to be full susspension cyc pro build, Just finished a bafang build on a carrera hellcat lmt edition, Im well happy with the build tho, But finding out what the CYC is, Im like damn, I would have a collection of E-bike builds if i was rich, lol.... Yeah this is a stunning bike bro, Top job.....

[@nobrakes7247]

Very tidy setup. Nice work mate

[@rayDJ.AbdNas]

Hey where'd you get that CYC 250W rated sticker? I'm interested in getting the CYC X1 stealth gen 3 (or pro if I'm not feeling it, I've heard about overheating problems with the stealth from some people but I'll need to investigate that further), nevertheless that 250W sticker looks like something I'll direly need seeing as I'm in the UK 🤣, the land where fun is illegal

[@LierskogenEbikes]

They give a sticker to every new motor.

[@wamountainbikeadventures5711]

Great review!

[@LierskogenEbikes]

Thanks!

[@GuntherSnaps]

it seems so loud compared to my bbshd. I want to buy one of these for my next build but is it really this loud?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

Unfortunately it is. It comes with steel gears, not like BBSHD where you have nylon gear. But thanks to this motor is bullet proof.

[@Jrockjeff]

Seems like lots of exposed wires on a typical contact point. Have you had issues with dirt and wear and tear?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

I had a problem with water ingress into the harness contact. After that I installed the controller inside the plastic box. New controllers have fully sealed main harness connector, so water is no longer an issue.

[@Rickydbaby]

How is it holding up? Still going strong no issues or parts breaking/coming loose after miles of riding?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

I had to regrease the gearbox year ago. I broke the seal and water got into the gearbox compartment. Other than that it works fine.

[@sp3php339]

thank you for the tests! Gear noise is awful :(

[@Denvermorgan2000]

Nice bike.

[@joelkaufman3793]

What's the name of the bike frame? I'm looking for full suspension which can hold a battery

[@LierskogenEbikes]

I bought it from Carbomania shop on Aliexpress. You need to go for at least L size to fit the battery. XL is recommended for better clearance.

[@ManewBlewww]

Thanks man for all you did! Is it noisy like it sounds on the video when you pedaling?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

It's much noiser than Bosch or Bafang motors. But from the distance noise blends with wheels running on gravel.

[@ManewBlewww]

@@LierskogenEbikes I wonder if it's annoying on road if you do 30 miles like?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

@@ManewBlewww For me it's perfectly fine when I pedal. I often do trips between 30 to 40 km.

[@ManewBlewww]

@@LierskogenEbikes ok sounds good! Thx🤝

[@kiryl9442]

Thanks for videos. Which motor do you choose for city bike 60km/h max speed, fast, quiet, economical and reliable: Bafang Ultra 1kw, CYC X1 Stealth, CYC 1 Pro? Bafang Ultra is much quieter CYC?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

I would go for Bafang Ultra, but I doubt you will hit 60 km/h with stock motor. Rather 50 km/h max. And you need to buy dedicated frame for this motor. They are expensive and hard to get.

[@kiryl9442]

@@LierskogenEbikes thanks, do you think which frame is better: seroxat aluminium or carbon Dengfu e06? Also find wattwagons hydra, but it is expensive.

[@LierskogenEbikes]

@@kiryl9442 Degnfu looks much better. And you get integrated battery.

[@liammcinerney5565]

Are you running the magicshine off the ebike battery and controller?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

Hehe, I was thinking about that. In theory it's possible, since BAC855 has separate circuit for external lights. Problem is, you need to add two wires to CYC JST connector and controller can provide 6V and max 3W power. I stick to dedicated battery for lights. You can install separate transformator from battery voltage to 6V to supply the light. You can get them cheap on Aliexpress.

[@liammcinerney5565]

@@LierskogenEbikes ya I wish bafang, cyc, etc would beef up a separate circuit for some proper lights. Appreciate the reviews, I run a bbshd, love the power but a bit of refinement with a torque sensor would make this an incredible set up. Next build I'm going for a CYC X1 stealth. Happy riding!

[@Nickporter17]

Can you compare the sound to an e8000 motor? It is as loud as the video makes it sound.

[@LierskogenEbikes]

I don't own any bike with E8000 motor, so hard to make any comparison for me. Definitely E8000 is more silent.

[@joehiatt1992]

Anyone know the measurement for this motor from the center of the BB to where the motor BEGINS,I have a polygon T7 with a longer BB area & dont want the motor to hang down too low, another thing is I might be able to put the motor in the frame cause rear shock is mounted higher ???

[@LierskogenEbikes]

You will find all CYC motor drawings on their website. You can print them out and make a template with a cardboard.

[@joehiatt1992]

@@LierskogenEbikes I just put a Bafang bbshd on 1 of my mtn bikes & like it,was lookin at this or the pro,what s the top speed you can get with the stealth in stock form ?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

@@joehiatt1992 Top speed depends on the voltage and your style of riding (PAS only or throttle?). I have 48V and no throttle. This bike can easily go up to around 55 km/h on flat road.

[@xrayesel1180]

hva anbefaler du den eller bafang ultra max for skogen

[@LierskogenEbikes]

Bege to er bra. Det er avhengig av hvilken ramme type du ønsker. For Bafang Ultra du trenger ramme med riktig feste.

[@xrayesel1180]

@@LierskogenEbikes er begge like kraftige

[@LierskogenEbikes]

@@xrayesel1180 Ja, like torque og peak kraft.

[@solarpall]

How fast is it!?

[@syedzgaming]

Hi is this 11/53 with 32t chainring?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

11/63T

[@rossg9363]

that noise sounds like straight cut gears not hypoid gears, would i be right does anyone know the exact source of the noise it makes???? Its not electric motor noise because electric motors are quiet🤷‍♂️

[@LierskogenEbikes]

CYC motors have planetary gearbox. That's the source of high pitch noise.

[@rossg9363]

@@LierskogenEbikes ahhhh true! That explains alot thanks! I've watched many cyc videos and wounded this but never asked or looked into it.. watching your mint build i thought you would know for sure hahaha thanks 🤜🤛 must be metal ones to to get that pitch

[@LierskogenEbikes]

@@rossg9363 Yes, I use bronze cogs now. CYC don't even tried to introduce plastic ones as an option. No point to do so. The plastic type would not survive very long this level of power.

[@rossg9363]

@@LierskogenEbikes true! Yeah they look impressive power. I got a 52v bbshd pretty mint build to with boost size wheels xt gear on it i appreciate a nice build and yours is way up there i like it👍 the paperwork that came with my bbshd kit said not for use on carbon fibre frames, i think its the clamp force on the bb they say that for the bbshd yours has those straps around the frame you pointed out in the video which is the go for carbon fibre. Nice one👌👍

[@tmho7091]

What is the maximum speed you can get when using only throttle on flat road?

[@tmho7091]

@@LierskogenEbikes Thank you! That is good enough for me, and I can use my existing battery.

[@christopherfeiler551]

How fast can it go?

[@tmho7091]

@@christopherfeiler551 He had replied to me, but I forgot the figures. I do not know why his reply disappear. May be he deleted it. It should be above 40 km/h and that is why I replied that it is good enough for me. I have not tried that with my Stealth because it is still cold for me in my place. Will get back to you once I have tried it.

[@syedzgaming]

Which battery???

[@LierskogenEbikes]

My battery. If you ask more precise question, I can give you more precise answer :)

[@syedzgaming]

I mean how many volts and amp hours, and where did you buy it and whats the typical range you see with minimal assist, thank you.

[@LierskogenEbikes]

@@syedzgaming I built it myself. Spec is 48V 14Ah with power draw up to 30A.

[@JoLe1991]

that motor is so noisy. probably due to high motor rpm and straight-cut gears. ok when you feel like riding a motorbike, but disturbing when you're mountain biking... ofncourse the controller is much better than the bafang, as is the presence of a torque sensor. but the bafang bbs, if properly greased is sooooo smooth and silent.

[@LierskogenEbikes]

The reason for noise are planetary gears. Other than that, it's great motor. I was riding with Bafang BBS02 2 years ago, never again. It's great motor for commuting only, when you ride with more or less constant speed. For trail riding it sucks. There is a reason why Bafang so heavily promotes M400, M500, M600 and M620 motors for eMTB's. All of them come with integrated torque sensor.

[@JoLe1991]

@@LierskogenEbikes honestly I can ride technical trails just as well with the bbs02 as with a bosch cx. as long as you keep cadence and have the throttle for emergency restarts, it's just fine, that is if it's programmed well. stock programmig is complete garbage. chain line is another point where life is easier with the cyc, but there are good solutions for the bbs02 out there. obviously not simple off the shelf stuff. The frame integrated motors from bafang require a special frame and are a lot more expensive for what you get. the m600 in particular is in my opinion killing the peace on the trail with it's awful gear sound. the last bbs02 I installed had new RC-style tidy motor windings and darker enamel coating, and sounded significantly "zippier". sure a torque sensor would not hurt, but I can live just fine without, in fact the throttle only gives me more control over starts in difficult situations

[@andymartinez1426]

Do the battery 🔋 last a lot or not ?

[@LierskogenEbikes]

I haven't tested maximum range yet. It heavily depends on how hard you ride and where. I ride around hills with very ondulating terrain. The longest trip I had was around 50 km and there was still some energy left in the battery. Riding on level 3 most of the time, no gas.

[@Emolokz]

I honestly wish they had a way to make this system class 1 only with just pedal assist for legality reasons

[@LierskogenEbikes]

You can disable throttle in the motor app. It's not the same as physical removal of throttle, but at least you can show that throttle doesn't work.

[@Emolokz]

@@LierskogenEbikes is there a way to physically disconnect the throttle or nah? That's a large distinction between class 1 and class 2 here (and class 2 isn't allowed on trails here)

[@LierskogenEbikes]

@@Emolokz Maybe there is a way. I haven't investigated it.

[@pipito588]

to much noise

[@unclemike1206]

Karen on her horse isn't going to like this. Beautiful bike though

[@LierskogenEbikes]

Hehe. Karen hates everybody in 100 meters proximity from her :)