Trainee/Idol Debt & Expenses - How much are idols/trainees paid? Profit distribution? (Part 1)

[@LuvieIrene]

im so done with myself- i didn't edit in an emoji for the outro oops- Part 2 is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3fTf3aGmp2HmdU ! All of the videos mentioned will be in the description box~

[@lexichristinearmyblink136]

@@toki7815 we can do school but u will be focusing on training/singing/dancing more...

[@hinaatiq5356]

Unnie I have a question.. If parents are not supporting so what about their sign in contract????

[@alici4rblx]

​@@hinaatiq5356 girl it depends on your age u think if you're 14 (as i heard its korean legal age i dont really know ) but as long as you have the legal age to travel alone ect. Then ig you can sign it yourself

[@__-wk3np]

I was literally waiting for this one cause i see so many people with unrealistic toughts of being an idol or a trainee. Like there are so many traniees never debut and so many groups that never becomes popular so they still have to manage their debt. Love your channel thank you ♡

[@LuvieIrene]

welcome~

[@theluckylian]

Irene could really be a judge for first timers in kpop auditions in my opinion.

[@LuvieIrene]

thanks loll

[@chloeiban3656]

I got surprised, I was just scrolling in youtube cause it was my father's bday today so i was looking for music then i saw this! 😆

[@LuvieIrene]

oh haha thanks for clicking on anyway!

[@luisannydelanuez334]

The only thing keeping me from auditioning is the fact that you never really know if you’ll debut or not. Which is scary because I don’t live in Korea and I wouldn’t want to stay there without my family, and then not end up debuting. 😩✋🏼

[@LuvieIrene]

that's the risk.. for anything..

[@luisannydelanuez334]

@@LuvieIrene I know! But I’m a big scaredy cat, and such a family person. Plus I gotta loose weight first 😂

[@trucanhpham5746]

Thank you so much! I've always thought of the harsh training and the possibility of not being successful (whether as a trainee or a debut) as the biggest obstacles to overcome, but it seems debt and legal contracts are so very harsh. Imagine chasing your dreams only to fail and lose the youngest years of your life and work off your debt. Years of missing school also slow down your chances of getting a good job in real life. The more I learn the more it seems like debuting and being successful is about the same as the roll of a dice.

[@LuvieIrene]

did you think it would be so easy before? if so, you're just opening up to reality

[@Soulmate_11114]

Are you still giving audition? After u hear all this things * no hate* I am just asking.

[@bbhwng]

it makes me scared to audition . imagine i didn't debut , 😭🔫 im dead

[@LuvieIrene]

its the risk that comes with it

[@luisannydelanuez334]

Right! Ahhh thats the only thing keeping me from auditioning or trying. And since I don’t live in Korea I wouldn’t want to stay away from my family for no reason.

[@whowantsbrowncheese1684]

@@luisannydelanuez334 true 😭😭

[@lydiawang4481]

you do realise not every one debuts

[@gaaaa2053]

Recently, I had a strong urge to start self-training to pass the audition, and thanks to stumbling upon your video, I was able to think about it in a more realistic way and consider things that I wasn't taking into account in my impulsive excitement. Thank you!!

[@carolinealbright201]

for an upcoming video, can you discuss the difference between regular in person/ online auditions for a company like JYP compared to an audition directly to a group like nizi project under JYP?

[@LuvieIrene]

it's pretty self-explanatory though, also rare to see

[@adelinecaron.]

This really gives me an insight, learned a lot from this one video~

[@LuvieIrene]

yay~

[@oliviaelliott-jackson4351]

As a teen thinking of becoming a kpop idol, these videos really help me think about it realistically

[@LuvieIrene]

so glad I can help!

[@theluckylian]

This is perfect. I’m so happy I found this channel when I did because you literally explain and breakdown everything which I need and I know this is a channel I’ll stay subscribed to forever👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@LuvieIrene]

aww thank you~~

[@aquilescastro9525]

I really would like to see this girl as an Idol her personality and visual are so great, this girl is the type of girl who any boy want. Including me;)

[@LuvieIrene]

haha thank you

[@jforjyn5602]

I’ve always wanted to perform on stage because I like the feeling I get every time I’m on it. I’ve tried out different forms of performing arts but they’ve never really gave me any sort of satisfaction until I found K-pop/C-pop. Unfortunately, I didn’t have a chance, and financially, I’m struggling. Well, I’m doing everything I can right now to prepare to audition late 2023 or 2024, where I will be 18 already. Hopefully it’s not too late. I’m aiming for Yuehua, hopefully everything works out!

[@LuvieIrene]

of course you can still try! good luck~

[@misox8842]

I really appreciate how she clears everyone's doubt and confusion and is also always active in comment section 😉🙂💜 Love love ❣️

[@LuvieIrene]

i try my best~

[@misox8842]

@@LuvieIrene You are the best! 🥰♥️😉♥️♥️😘

[@Nigerian_skeleton.127]

My dream was to be a kpop idol, but now , I am hopeless

[@LuvieIrene]

because of the reality?

[@luna8327]

@@LuvieIrene yes

[@wisdomcries]

You could still be a regular musician

[@navartist8948]

Same here 😌

[@aria_miller]

i love these mini series! they really help us out

[@LuvieIrene]

you're welcome~

[@aparnabiswal2564]

Can we appreciate the fact that we are getting an insider for free. Dude you are awesome. Loads of love 💜💜 . Stay safe

[@LuvieIrene]

:D

[@jillianreignn23]

i love how u speak. so relaxing, just like Wendy!! 😍😍

[@LuvieIrene]

thanks~

[@Purvi...138]

I thought I was the only one who thought that her voice gives Wendy vibes

[@jillianreignn23]

@@Purvi...138 so cool, right?

[@Purvi...138]

@@jillianreignn23 yeah...

[@davidjohnbedar5848]

yes this is what ive been waiting for

[@LuvieIrene]

:D

[@venkateshkamath6686]

Thank you so much cause I wanted to give audition for becoming a KPOP idol not for money but for my talent

[@LuvieIrene]

:)

[@emankhan1284]

*Irene making us be patient subscribers.* 🦋🍾

[@LuvieIrene]

loll

[@emankhan1284]

@@LuvieIrene *big fan!* 🍇

[@user-ro9ju9cb4oCynny]

I really need this and thank God i came across your channel you have a new subscriber thanks irene❤❤

[@raginimalviya004]

I'm searching this kind of information for a long time and I finally got the video....thank you so much.....💜😊😊

[@LuvieIrene]

welcome 😊

[@leeknowsashimi8542]

yassss!! your the bestt 🥺 i've been waiting your upcoming videos, everytime you post something 🥺

[@LuvieIrene]

:D

[@faizaamreenn]

Thanks for your support I am gonna audition for YG and your a great support I am gonna keep digging in the trainee life

[@LuvieIrene]

:)

[@vanessapham5631]

This clears up so many things!

[@LuvieIrene]

im so glad~

[@strawberry3533]

You never disappoint me I still remember the first time I saw your chanel and now I'm addicted ❤🍒❤🍒

[@LuvieIrene]

:D

[@ioann.a]

Awwww can we talk about how beautiful and cute you are💜💜💜

[@LuvieIrene]

😊 thank you

[@STAYthatMOAendforONCE]

Tbh I want to be a trainee 'cause I love having busy schedule that includes dancing and singing. I also love critism and improving but I'm kinda broke so I will have to wait' till they debut me 😂

[@salmanghani9221]

Please please please...keep auditioning I wish to see you as a kpop idol one day and I swear I'll support u so please keep auditioning and don't give up 😁

[@LuvieIrene]

i don't want to be an idol

[@QueenMotor9756]

@@LuvieIrene i- 💀

[@Bella.zoma.123]

This vide was so interesting!! I've always had so many questions about this topic!!

[@LuvieIrene]

great!

[@deetyakotian8072]

I just started to watch your videos amd now i watch them everyday and thanks for explaining us ❤❤❤💜

[@LuvieIrene]

welcome~

[@percy_coro_cos]

Omg same💀

[@gsbdbdjssbbsbdndnd5859]

What would we be without you. I really like your videos and you help us so much. And I’m so grateful to you for that. I wish I could say it better how grateful I am to you❤️❤️

[@LuvieIrene]

Aww I’m so glad!

[@adelinecaron.]

now I can't wait for part two ahhh

[@LuvieIrene]

:D

[@ethear5688]

Thank you for this irene! You look so good and beautiful as always❤

[@LuvieIrene]

thank you for watching~

[@Winikainkpop]

Ah! Can't wait ❤️

[@LuvieIrene]

:D

[@itskaily6850]

Idk what to do now as my family is broke af and if i try to convience them and went to achieve the idol dream in different country ik i have confidence i can do it but future is uncertain what if i couldn't debut and I'll be vack home with debts and didn't have money to pay too

[@k-day1]

Idols actually get quite a lot of money from music because for every view on KZbin thay get some money and it scales with the subscribers they get money for listens on Spotify and more music platforms so they do get money for the music

[@LuvieIrene]

You're thinking of the 1% idols that achieve success. Even when they are successful, all of their portions are shared with the company, then the members

[@notreallyafamousartist695]

Do you know how many streams it takes to equal half a million dollars? Even with all that success they might BARELY break even.

[@sissyle5814]

I can't understand well, because my level English is just intermediate, but it's interesting your videos and the same time I practice my English I love you and thanks you 😭💕

[@LuvieIrene]

:))

[@kkkk....7795]

Can't wait for part 2

[@LuvieIrene]

:D

[@ni-ki_sann]

She literally has every video about it🙀🙀

[@LuvieIrene]

ofc i do

[@ni-ki_sann]

@@LuvieIrene oh my gwad Luvie Irene just replied me i am bless and thank you for working hard to get our dream and you inspire me a lottt love youuuu😘🥺💜💖

[@awesomesauce1988]

I feel like somebody from these companies should make a video or there should be a blunt and realistic description of what Trainee life is like for their company, that way they wouldn't have to invest in people who may end up changing their minds about becoming an idol. I feel like that would help a lot of people even the companies.

[@LuvieIrene]

that's what potential trainees would want, not the casting managers.

[@lilyclouds143]

Thank you , you just explained everything clearly just very useful information ❤️

[@LuvieIrene]

so glad i can help!

[@Kim._.Xe_lla]

At all how much money do we need!???

[@not.txtiak]

That one person who ask that “What if” question : But What if... Irene : 😊

[@LuvieIrene]

?

[@paperthinjr126]

This is exactly why these companies can get away with predatory practices. A 50/50 split, which is supposed to be the top tier, still isn't 50/50. At no level is an artist/idol considered anything more than a commodity. These companies bank farm with as little risk as possible for people dumb enough to "trainee" making sure they can monopolize all income from that commodity. It's a win win because you're sure to get paid enough to continue your bank farm, and you don't even have to pay to promote your commodity. You have the lense of a trainee/debut-ee, with no business sense. People say it's a gamble, and sure it's a gamble, but they own the house.

[@jihyoslove971]

Gurllllll you really give me brain cells Love from india ❤️ Pls try to be idol once more ☺️ ur personality attracts every one 😀❤️

[@LuvieIrene]

i don't want to :)

[@tabassumsiddaqui8405]

Then I selected can Bighit compony and YG compony pay for my flight to korea my dorm my food my education...?

[@LuvieIrene]

I already answered this in the video. Please watch carefully before asking!

[@tabassumsiddaqui8405]

@@LuvieIrene no iam sorry iam confused about that

[@Mei-pg4mq]

I AM SO EXCITED FOR THAT VIDEO !!

[@LuvieIrene]

:D

[@lheybersonlapinid7843]

Oh thank you so much, Your really helpful for us Im so thankful to you like really thank you. ❤️

[@LuvieIrene]

welcome~

[@Adrushta-cq6is]

you are such an amazing person really

[@LuvieIrene]

:)

[@chaptersby__vicki]

Most people are scared of not debuting. Meanwhile me : lmao I'm probably getting dropped after the first monthly evaluation💀💀

[@LuvieIrene]

with that mindset yees

[@Jiwonieee]

Ur outifts are always💋✨🔥💅

[@LuvieIrene]

thank you haha

[@dancedrill6173]

This video scared after I heard the debt thing It would be too much if I don't end up debuting 🤧

[@LuvieIrene]

They're always risks

[@irenemanioti4373]

So helpful!!!! thank you ❤❤❤ i will see part 2 for sure

[@LuvieIrene]

:)

[@greentplant2737]

yay finally this video~!

[@LuvieIrene]

yup :D

[@pharid1527]

With that shirt You look so cuteeeee 🥺💗

[@LuvieIrene]

:)

[@itz_me_secret5]

Your video is so good and specially for them who want be

[@LuvieIrene]

:)

[@itz_me_secret5]

@@LuvieIrene you are so cute

[@blessparco]

Thanks for this, very informative :)

[@LuvieIrene]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ShivalikaSingh]

Here Irene guiding us all to be a star and then also here we all don't know how to even fill out the application.😅

[@ensserafims]

I really want to be a k-pop Idol, not for the money but i js LOVEEE dancing but im scared if i don't debut and fail😢 I wouldn't know how to pay my debt and it would be just a waste of years of my life and me being away to my family would be a waste.

[@jvngwhxney9263]

How am I supposed to pay back the debts if I don’t earn money or do they pay me?

[@LuvieIrene]

I already answered this in the video. Please watch carefully before asking

[@sonime5422]

When we have a job they payed us and do they payed trainee if not your telling i gotta pay like $500.000 And what if i got no money📃

[@LuvieIrene]

watch the video.

[@kook-bokki]

Thanks 🥰🥰 to you for clearing my most of the doubts

[@LuvieIrene]

My pleasure 😊

[@miracle-N]

The ending = ❤️😻

[@LuvieIrene]

:)

[@susmita8102]

Hi I am susmita and I am from Nepal and If I want to go in korea for idol dance but I don't no one thing we have to go in treeani than we have to pay yes or no.....

[@LuvieIrene]

I already answered this in the video. Please watch carefully before asking!

[@susmita8102]

@@LuvieIrene okay

[@BeatsWith_me71]

My big doubt ..... Is any company can allow totally vegetarian people...😢😢 How many fees we need to pay for a month... If we have no money what we can do... Is there pay for our school fees.. food and another please tell me 🥺🥺🥺

[@barsha5983]

This video was really helpful... Thank you..😊😊

[@LuvieIrene]

:D

[@KittyKatsVlogs1]

Can you try to do one on abyss company auditions and tell or show us how to Audition there. Did you know you can audition to be an idol at 18 you don't have to be a teen. I just found that out.

[@LuvieIrene]

watch the intro of any audition tutorial

[@gunprabhagamanga2374]

It helped me a lot!!! Thanks Unnie 😘!!!!

[@LuvieIrene]

welcome~

[@arianne9016]

i love your contents ㅠㅠ

[@LuvieIrene]

thank you!

[@sonakshi3888]

All thanks to u it really helped so much

[@LuvieIrene]

:)

[@NathanVu]

So does the Kpop artist gets a salary every month once they debut? Otherwise, if they're still paying back their debt how do they have money to spend like going out or anything?

[@ilovenerdhehez]

I was looking ideas about my editz but I saw this😳

[@LuvieIrene]

thanks for clicking on~

[@aria_miller]

Link the outfit!!! it's so cutee

[@LuvieIrene]

just did!

[@taeswifey7046]

I want to ask a question that do companies except someone famous on social media? I'm just curious

[@LuvieIrene]

usually no

[@taeswifey7046]

@@LuvieIrene Thank you so much for answering :)

[@s.de.944]

How to make a introduction video please make a saparate video with full information

[@LuvieIrene]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWLbh5SYpdaXjs0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ66Z3uci82Yr5o

[@dindaseptiara5393]

idk if i came here too late but i always had this question about idols especially group one. what if, one member had a packed schedule (say it like maybe mc-ing variety shows or starring korean series), where do their income goes to? do they divide them for another members fairly? or their agency takes percentage first and then the the artist/idol can have the rest? if they divide it to another members that do nothing (because they have no schedule), isn't that can start jealousy issue?

[@LuvieIrene]

if it's an individual schedule, then it just goes to them.

[@bbinnybinbin]

Hi! 1:20 I know this video was very long ago but what if i stopped all contact with my family? Would i still be able to sign?

[@aviehi.5129]

Loona's olivia hye who only trained for 1 day: 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

[@LuvieIrene]

mm

[@flora4613]

Hi,hello.Can you make a video about where to buy clothes especially for winter clothes in South Korea ? Thank youuuu🙂

[@LuvieIrene]

kzbin.info/aero/PLcaHUpBInP2BalmiqBxCxnqd_LZrw9Hs6

[@hannahgarcia9476]

lol i'm confused the video says you uploaded this 35 min ago, but when i look at the other comments some are 1 day ago

[@LuvieIrene]

patreon members get early access as always

[@__-wk3np]

It had a timer so people commented it is just it

[@STALKER777LK]

Id love to see something about NCT Hollywood apparently its for plp living in the US, so maybe for someone that doesnt live there would they be able to be part of that experience? I know we dont know a lot, but it would be nice to see your pov (even if its not accurate) Also, if its only for people living in the US, what about other methods(email and online audition), Are they more viable now since SM is trying to be more inclusive?

[@LuvieIrene]

auditions haven' opened yet

[@STALKER777LK]

@@LuvieIrene thanks for replying! oh I know But I understand that it's better to wait so you can have a good point about the whole process

[@kclarke421]

Dont forget the gonna go to South Korea to train👌🏽

[@hinaatiq5356]

Love you soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much from Pakistan... 🇵🇰🇰🇷🇵🇰💜🇰🇷☺️😇

[@heracil4709]

I wanted to audition in belift for the next month but your contents about debt, training days and all make me very worry. But tho my parents wouldn't really support. I became interested about being a trainee because of I-Land but I'm really scared😭

[@LuvieIrene]

because it's the truth?

[@heracil4709]

@@LuvieIrene oh yes, i just mean that it makes me worry about the things that will happen

[@kentiansolidum6597]

gurl same,I want to audition but I'm scared :(

[@heracil4709]

@@kentiansolidum6597 i really want to, but the expenses😭

[@heracil4709]

we're not rich😭

[@ThreeQueen-dg7sq]

How can i pay off my debt? Please answer

[@Atinnqsv]

2:11 are those things in JYP? If so how much does it cost?

[@Liakuja]

tbh if i ever saw this I would finish the photocards

[@iyalorrainefontanilla980]

but then what happens if your a trainee and you never debut, what wil happen?

[@notreallyafamousartist695]

You’re now a slave to them due to debt that you can never pay back So debut or suffer

[@ThreeQueen-dg7sq]

​@@notreallyafamousartist695how much does the debt cost ? Please answer

[@muskanjain978]

I was thinking of being trainee in yg but I chnged my mind bcs of cons inway my plan failed but my goal is same , I will be an idol with a different plan hopefully

[@LuvieIrene]

:)

[@aluraqolbie2141]

idk why but i watch these videos when i havent even audition

[@Happie03]

Will there be another audution after being a trainee? And ,if yes do we have to pay the company back of dorm,school,food etc.

[@LuvieIrene]

i dont think you watched the video like at all

[@moonlightespt3818]

​@@LuvieIreneWell if you can't even clear their doubts and questions then they don't have to watch the video obligatorily.

[@SaraRashetnia]

Why do you have to pay for come back? O my godddd

[@kirtirana9989]

If u aduition for a company how much time will it take them to reply if I have passed or not

[@chanduim8501]

I think for example - cube entertainment ( cost $ 5000 ) we pay 20 and company pay 80 ? Is this belong to trainee period ? 🤔

[@LuvieIrene]

debt costs 5000? yeah no.

[@chanduim8501]

Cost is $ 500,000 Is its for 1 year ? If we training 6 months how much its cost ? Did sm company pay 95 precent ?

[@Official_akihsi]

What if our parents are not agree with being a kpop idol but i wanna be, so can i join it?

[@LuvieIrene]

That’s why I made this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rajGlIuPic2ojZI

[@Blink-vg4ne]

I'm 7th grade student so if I pass any of the online audition and I went to South korea then what will happen to my studies?? I mean if I became a trainee

[@LuvieIrene]

Watch these videos related to school! Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWK1hJurrcaXn8U Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amLEiWhrjcesgNU

[@heng_heng802]

I m 11 right now and i want to be a kpop idol how to become a kpop idol where to go can you tell me

[@LuvieIrene]

Watch my audition tutorial videos kzbin.info/aero/PLcaHUpBInP2ByYN6qGR06ZfNYS2r71zlR

[@sakhu5798]

Hey there! Can u make a video on how to audition for DR entertainment? (Blackswan)

[@LuvieIrene]

im planning on uploading it

[@sakhu5798]

@@LuvieIrene yes please, thanks a lot

[@FabulousTone]

I'am I still be able to audition even if I'm 19 yrs old? I heard sandara park audition at her 20s

[@LuvieIrene]

I already answered your question in my kpop audition faqs! Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqHJg5aVZriUd9E Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ6pd5qaZZmtqc0