Training Without Fear featuring John Lyons, John Madigan DVM & Jody Ambrose

Equitopia @ www.equitopiacenter.com explores the psychology and physiology of equine fear.
Can a horse learn when it is afraid? What part of the brain is the horse in when it spooks? Legendary horse trainer John Lyons, Director of the Comparative Neurology Research Group at UC Davis, John Madigan DVM, MS. DACVIM, DACAW, and Animal Behavior Consultant Jody Ambrose, weigh in on how fear effects a horses ability to be trained when in a state of heightened arousal.

[@tiffersen]

I wish the entire horse world would understand these principles. ❤

[@tareyread1842]

More than 30 years ago I was blessed to attend a John Lyons demonstration near Seattle, and met John. This was just days after his other demonstration stallion was injured in a truck accident. Yes, John, we did as you asked and visited Dream and gave him Snickers bars. He was happy to accept but kept looking for you. The focus that weekend was, no one learns when they're frightened and teach the horse that they are safe with you. I immediately and permanently adopted the dual concept for all interactions with mammals, and a goose and a cockatiel which chose to leave the wild and come live with me and the horses. Banishment of fear. Pure magic. That gave me a royal mare who hadn't been groomed or bred for ten years because she couldn't be touched; after one day she put her face in my hug and breathed the biggest sigh of relief that I will ever hear. Ironically her name was First Fantasy. Yes, it works with people too. Years later I was teaching corporate tax law to a group of attorneys from other nations. They had no concept of private property or limited liability so we started with a deep handicap on top of English being their second (or fifth!) language. I figured out how to make them laugh, then they started learning. Every student passed. (To celebrate their hard work, I took them all on a field day to FAO Schwartz then for huge American hamburgers and chocolate shakes at Mel's Diner. By day's end they mostly believed that anyone with enough money could buy the toys and food, that no one demanded special status ID or would even look at it. We had to go back for them to buy every Babushka doll in the store!) Why did they work so hard on my class? Because they trusted and wanted to please me. That on top of lifelong work habits, outstanding intelligence, and dedication to the success of their nations made for extraordinary students. Besides that, they loved to hear my horse stories.

[@HeartofEquus]

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[@comesahorseman]

Your horse is a reflection of you. If things aren't going well, look to yourself first.

[@gerrycoleman7290]

Absolutely correct.

[@alistairdownie5944]

I spent my working life,Desperate for Validation for these methods!! Thank You So Much!! These videos should be Compulsory viewing Before a human is allowed anywhere Near our Equine Friends!!❤❤❤❤❤X. ps.I cried,happy tears,to see n hear people putting Humane into Human!!

[@susiquadro7615]

do you know Tristan Tucker = TRT method, I was as happy as you, finally discovering his Methode in Europe. Very similar.

[@ForceFreeTrainergirl06]

Fabulous. Truly training without fear. This is how I train dogs. Thank you.

[@bluu2696]

this channel deserves so much more! So amazing

[@makingitthrough190]

Not much different from those of us with two legs. What a beautiful, simple sentiment. “Being at peace”!

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[@johnmessersmith3881]

Best video for horses on youtube thank you

[@sacred406]

What a fantastic find this channel is!!!

[@Coyote-paintz7]

I love John Lyons.

[@janetrains83]

All animal trainers need to understand this, great video, thank you.

[@jackiebraun5479]

Loving your channel.

[@kimlightfoot]

why in this day and age is fear even an option in training these very smart animals, that are such great friends to those that ride in general.

[@ablue5419]

Amazing fabulous peace is the key peace and love not brutality or cruelty or punishment so with peace kindness understanding and the most important love any begins do miracles not only horses but any animal. Love it

[@mariepelton]

The information you provide is absolutely exceptional! Keep up the great videos...I am learning to be the best horse person I can be because of them! Thank you. Marie

[@kerielwatson3197]

I'm working on training without fear and pain. Mostly it's me learning how to speak horse XD. The horse knows some things wanted but my ability to communicate what I want is still at learners level. Knowing the fault lies with me and not my horse though, has meant even as a beginner I've managed to train quite a few things without needing pain, fear or force.

[@HeartofEquus]

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[@ladygodiva45]

Brilliant thank you xx

[@TaiMizuki]

Thank you for posting this! I'm a horseman and people argue whether it's the horse being bad where I've always said "horses aren't generally bad, they do things for a reason which is usually reaction due to instinct". I really hope people learn from this and maybe change their views and state of mind.

[@DutchIsraeli]

Fantastic video, thank you 💚

[@OKae88]

Perfect episode 💜

[@tenapus]

looking foreward to more videos!

[@Robin-sb7vu]

I am absolutely amazed at these videos. Love this channel beyond words!

[@maries2966]

My 25 year old spooks at random things, normally he is calm and never mean, but sometimes he just BOOM and all four legs are like bambis on ice, any suggestions? Oh, and its always seems to be random, one day a bird, a leaf, trash can and so on, but next day it is not scary.. not the same places either..

[@equitopiacenter8650]

Hi Marie, difficult to say. Spooking is a natural behavior and can just be a genuine reaction to being startled, just like humans. We have also find that it is more common in horses that are uncomfortable in some way - physical, lack of trust in rider, pain from ill fitting saddle etc. etc. Unfortunately, there is no one answer to any issue as there are always multiple factors to consider and each horse and rider combination is unique and has to be evaluated as such:) Great that you are still riding your horse at 25:)

[@maries2966]

Equitopia Center thank you! I have had him for thirteen years. He does have times he is better, especially in the woods.. i just really dont get his logic, maybe i do something wrong but ive tried so much. :/ the other latest owner told me he has always been this way.. maybe horses too can suffer from PTSD? He was abused when little..

[@1952horseman]

@@maries2966 Horses do remember anything bad that happens to them, when they are young. You can relate that to a child who has been abused, when young. That has an influence on there thinking , when they grow up.

[@Coyote-paintz7]

My horse does that but I've found he is responding to a pain in his body.

[@Narlanas]

I would also like to add that you look into thw theory of trigger stacking. It's possible you aren't noticing "small worries" in his day that he can deal quite well with on his own, but when they get stacked together it eventually becomes to one thing to much and the horse "suddenly" and "randomly" spooks at something rather minor. Its impossible to give proper advice over the net, but that was one thing that popped into my mind that could be worth looking into. :)

[@jennifercafecafe1481]

Peace, what is that for our animal kingdom???, we, us humans don't give that to them, they deserve so much support

[@gerrycoleman7290]

7:35 You are screwing up the process by feeding him treats to lower his anxiety.

[@b.wild_and_free8206]

What’s wrong with treats?

[@gerrycoleman7290]

@@b.wild_and_free8206 Treats are fine to give once in a while. But I recommend not giving treats as a reward for the horse doing a task. That is not how horses interact with one another. The reward for a horse interacting with another horse is the release of pressure. Same for horse human interaction.

[@herdingdrive]

@@gerrycoleman7290 spoken like someone who has not experienced the power of "operant conditioning". "The reward for a horse interacting with another horse is the release of pressure"? Yeah, if they are chasing another horse away from a pile of hay etc.... but, horses interact with each other in many ways like mutual grooming, playing and simple companionship. I would compare a horses relationship with us to the one we experience with an employer. He want's us to do something we would not do unless there is a paycheck at the end of the week. Even if the task is self-rewarding for us like in my case it would be training dogs, cooking, taking photos or even cleaning tack, I'm not going to do it for you unless you pay me. I may clean my horses stall, but if you want my to clean yours I'm going to expect something in return and if you pay me well..... I'm even going to look forward to it. Once you wrap your head around reward-based training, you start thinking about what is actually rewarding for your horse and your relationship can change fundamentally. I find it addictive and can't imagine training any other way.

[@gerrycoleman7290]

@@herdingdrive The reward for a horse is the release of pressure. They learn on the release of pressure. You can not like it or not believe it, but it is true.

[@herdingdrive]

@@gerrycoleman7290 taking off the pressure is not a "reward" its "relief". The difference is that "rewards" encourage behavior and seeking "relief" creates avoidance.

[@timklassen421]

Steve Young would not like the hand feeding lady she would be a better dog trainer .

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