Trains at Wigan North Western (WCML) 23/12/2020

[@transitcaptain]

We see: Class 158 Express Sprinter. Class 390 Pendolino. Star of the video! Class 90 Loco pulling freight. While the freight passes by, you can just barely see a Class 150 Sprinter. Class 331 Civity. Class 150 Sprinter for real. Class 156 Super Sprinter. Class 319 EMU. Class 195 Civity. Class 221 Voyager Class 66 Loco Pulling Freight. 8 notes: Good to see another West Coast Mainline video! Some trains go off to Wallgate. It turns out you can stick 2 Civity Trains together to form a 6 car train. These usually work Liverpool to Wigan and Manchester services. It turns out you can have 3-car 158s. Not a lot of trains at SPEED! Isn't North Western better for trains to terminate than Wallgate? This video takes place in Greater Manchester. Maybe Scotland next? It's fine if that's not possible

[@StarlifeStudios]

Thanks Ben. Your spot on with this comment! There are lots of variety here and with Wallgate a stones throw from North Western, it just made sense to capture both of them. I would love to do Scotland soon, its a fantastic country :)

[@gstakktransport5227]

minor correction (know im a bit late) the double 331s only run the liverpool - wigan route on occasions and majority of the time continue to blackpool via preston

[@JacobsTrainVideos]

Great video Starlife! Some nice freight especially the double headed 90!

[@garden-Railway]

Nice! Glad to see your up North!

[@theimperialist2686]

Another great railway video.

[@StarlifeStudios]

Many thanks Imperialist! 😊

[@alfredosgaming340]

Great video! Never been but hope to one day.

[@StarlifeStudios]

Thanks! You should, There are no ticket barriers at North Western either! In the peak there are also TPE services and it does get its fair amount of freight too!

[@bt_photography313]

Already Know This Is going to be a Great Video!

[@StarlifeStudios]

Hope you enjoyed it Jake! 😃

[@bt_photography313]

@@StarlifeStudios It was amazing!

[@RickyNowis]

Mega mega mega video and variety. Lovin your new 50 FPS format looks epic :-)

[@1951GL]

I remember the old Wigan NW - this is infinitely superior. Much better diagrams today. And faster.

[@joshuastanbury3166]

Could we ever see some GWR content would love to see some especially along the Cornish Main Line or Between Exeter and Newton Abbot. Never get tired of the WCML content though

[@StarlifeStudios]

Hi Joshua, the next video should peak your interest ;) The Cornish Mainline is beautiful and I would love to visit stations along there especially Starcross and Dawlish. I'll see what I can do later this year :)

[@davidpanton3192]

Wigan North Western and Wigan Wallgate - so near and yet so frustratingly difficult to combine...

[@LordEverythingtrains]

Very nice to see traffic from both stations, and also nice to see the variety of Northern stock. Where next?

[@StarlifeStudios]

Both stations are a stones throw away, so it just made sense. Wallgate is actually the busier station! Next video, all being well, should be back in the nation of the dragon 😊 I'm also hoping to resume videoing this week coming as well so I'm excited for the future 😃 Thanks Lord Everything.

[@LordEverythingtrains]

@@StarlifeStudios I would have through north western was busier because of avanti. Mm.

[@bowlerstuff9589]

@@LordEverythingtrains ,there is 1 Avanti service each way per hour and 1 Northern Service per hour northbound and 2 Southbound from North Western and at Wallgate there is 2 services to Manchester&Leeds per hour,1 to Southport,1 terminating and 1 to Kirkby

[@paulwilkinson7470]

Atos Anne st

[@Trainspotter11_]

Brilliant video! I really enjoyed this :)

[@SolarTs18]

I like your videos and I really enjoyed this one

[@StarlifeStudios]

Thanks Solar Knight! 😃 I really appreciate your kind comments. I always try and get back to all my comments when I have some free time.

[@lovefive5733]

A great video. Hope you are well

[@StarlifeStudios]

Thanks, you too Love Five!

[@ejc7129]

Great Video 😎👍🏽🇬🇧 Last time I was there Virgin Cross-Country had HST’s working up and down the WCML 😧 Those Voyagers will be gone from Avanti next year..they are being replaced by yet more Hitachi 800 variants 😪🤮 My guess is the 18 x 221’s will end up with Cross-Country so they can “double up” some of their busier NE-SW services when things get back to normal 😀👍🏽

[@StarlifeStudios]

Thanks EJC! What I would give for a Valenta scream in service again. For all the Voyager's flaws, they do sound good (especially at speed). I think a lot of people will also miss the large windows but I think you're right about CrossCountry ending up with them, since they're all owned by Beacon Rail. 😃

[@ejc7129]

@@StarlifeStudios Voyagers do have their critics, me being one of them, but at the end of the day from a business point of view, they are effective and reliable people movers and they do get worked very hard. During normal times, XC has terrible problems with overcrowding on some NE/SW services and Bournemouth-Manchester services so 18 five car units from Avanti next year should help with that 😀👍🏽 However, I do think the entire XC fleet need a complete internal refit. Last time I was on a XC 221 in July 2019, it looked shabby inside, seat covers nearly worn out, carpet was filthy and the toilet area was not very clean. Its a shame the DfT didn’t allow XC to procure more HST’s for the NE/SW axis, get the coaches converted at Wabtec (which could have bern happening over the last quiet 12 months) so when we return to normal, XC could have had 4 or 5 more HST Sets making ten, so they could have run 7 or 8 a day on NE/SW, freeing up more Voyagers to “Double Up” on busy services on the Bournemouth-Manchester and Newcastle-Southampton routes, plus other non HST NE/SW workings..but as usual, never expect anything sensible from the DFT 🤔🤣

[@LordEverythingtrains]

Cross Country also need to get a new train to replace the 170s (or just order more so they can double up) in my opinion. Seeing a 2 car train on Cardiff to Birmingham or Stansted to Birmingham hurts my soul. And perhaps they could order some desiros or aventras or even Electrostars. Would be awesome to see electrostars in Birmingham lol

[@ejc7129]

@@LordEverythingtrains I 100% agree, but there may be a chance in 2022/2023 to use 4 or 5 car displaced Meridians on Cardiff to Nottingham and Birmingham- Stansted? EMT will be using 810’s by the end of next year so as an option using 222’s for these services could mean maintenance remaining at Derby which is a great logistical location to run these services from 🤔 So XC could use 220/221/HST for all other services as they do now, and have a dedicated fleet of 222’s to work Cardiff-Nottingham’s and Birmingham-Stansted’s, plus it would not be too much of a problem if a 222 stood in on conventional XC diagrams and a 220 stood in on a Cardiff to Nottingham as they are practically the same train for drivers and crew 😊👍🏽

[@Andrewjg_89]

The Class 195 and Class 331 Civity trains that CAF manufactured with no gangway corridor does look really nice. Plus CAF are to manufacture the Class 196 for West Midlands Railway and Class 197 Civity for Transport for Wales. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_195 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_331

[@StarlifeStudios]

They look really nice but are really poor build quality. Several Northern ones have already been withdrawn due to failing Yaw Brackets and the WMR ones are likely to be the same. Both 195 and 331s are affected with 319s and 150s likely to be re-introduced to cover those routes until redesigned and repaired.

[@Andrewjg_89]

@@StarlifeStudios Ah yes I've heard that on Facebook

[@Transpennine]

I think that Wigan wallgate should be electric and get some CAF’S because leeds - Wigan wallgate is a longer regional service right?

[@FusionZenFlame]

please upload weekly again :( 2 weeks is too long too wait :((

[@maimadha]

Great video

[@liamhill1741]

You should go to Tackley station next

[@jamesedworthy1161]

Do Blackpool North next. Great vid by the way

[@StarlifeStudios]

Hi James. Honestly, I would love to although I'm told that Blackpool North might be the UK's most unfriendly station so it might not go well. I've got some contacts in Northern Rail so maybe I can work something out.. Thanks for your kind comments. 😃

[@StarlifeStudios]

Thanks Xstgamer412, I really appreciate your insight. I can see you have a few videos at Layton yourself so it seems like a great idea. I will still try and go to Blackpool North but I'm happy that you've helped my understanding :)

[@themagictankengine6186]

Hi like the vide I think a good place to spot at would be Waterloo east

[@UHarshanBlackBoy1995]

Nice video! I like it!

[@StarlifeStudios]

Thanks Harshan! 😃

[@UHarshanBlackBoy1995]

@@StarlifeStudios You're welcome! :-)

[@SamuelIles2015]

Who else gets excited just to hear the theme tune! Also, is there a way that you decide what your going to upload each week?

[@StarlifeStudios]

Hi Samuel, I currently mix them up so that the same lines don't appear twice e.g. West Coast. Generally speaking they broadly follow the order that I film them in. I do eventually get round to everyone's suggestions but some time some are easier than others e.g. Scotland.

[@uhegbu]

@@StarlifeStudios Today, Tuesday 30th March, I got up close to see the first class accommodation part of the Class 745 train at London Liverpool Street. As I said before, I will go to Norwich for a day out. It looks like the Saturday beyond June 21st when all of the restrictions would have been lifted if all four steps are achieved. Regarding this station, I must have past Wigan North Western, when I went to Blackpool for a day out by steam, late 2019, the most recent.

[@cteasdale1979]

Wigan wallgate near by

[@FusionZenFlame]

quick question when can you do a station in the north of england??

[@StarlifeStudios]

Doesn’t this count as North of England FusionZenFlame? 😉 I have some more videos from this region coming up soon and hopefully Scotland later this year as well 😃 Thanks.

[@FusionZenFlame]

@@StarlifeStudios alright thanks

[@StarlifeStudios]

Do you have any suggestions in the North of England? I’m all ears 😃

[@FusionZenFlame]

@@StarlifeStudios Manors? Newcastle? Alnmouth? Chathill? Morpeth? Sunderland? Hexham? Carlisle? Hartlepool? Durham? I could name more

[@FusionZenFlame]

@@StarlifeStudios if you wanna check my MANORS video on my channel you can Also I am doing Sunderland Tomorrow and uploading that on Wednesday

[@arnoldspottingvideos5269]

Great video. Can you do trains at Eastleigh is a really good station also for freight trains.

[@transitcaptain]

Ooh a South Western vid would be cool

[@arnoldspottingvideos5269]

@@transitcaptain yep is good for freight even on the WCML

[@StarlifeStudios]

Ahh yes Eastleigh! I'll put it on my list. Maybe I can do that on the same day as Salisbury 🤔

[@transitcaptain]

@@StarlifeStudios But that would mean that these videos won't come until after covid-19

[@nathansrailwayphotography8125]

@@StarlifeStudios Do Eastleigh when you go to Salisbury

[@Benji_transport_vids]

Loved this video - at my local WCML station! Just wondering though, how were you able to add TOC logos or other logos (in general) to your text? I'm starting out in adding more better edits and was inspired by yours.

[@StarlifeStudios]

Hi Benji, I'm not exactly sure of the video editor that you use but most advanced editors like Adobe Premiere and Sony Vegas can add images with transparent backgrounds (which is what I do). I recommend using DaVinci Resolve if you want a good starting editor (its free!). Thanks for watching.

[@Benji_transport_vids]

@@StarlifeStudios Thanks for the info!

[@samuelwhite92]

Good vid

[@StarlifeStudios]

Thanks Sam :)

[@UHarshanBlackBoy1995]

Is Northern still of Arriva or not it is taken over by the government?

[@StarlifeStudios]

Arriva is no more! Northern Rail is now wholly owned by the Government.

[@UHarshanBlackBoy1995]

@@StarlifeStudios Good! Then, the ticket prices are lower than before, aren't they?

[@greatwesternrailway8742]

I subscribed because this video is great?

[@Hgplayz451]

1:14 I have seen that train aswell

[@thebrickpyramid]

suprised to not see '2 hours late'

[@StarlifeStudios]

COVID has taught us that train seem to run ontime more without the passengers! Who would have thought 😉

[@londonundergroundsimp4506]

0:46 the remaining signage of the swallow

[@StarlifeStudios]

I had to do the intro on the sign with the Swallow 😃 I’m glad it’s still there, a great piece of the past.

[@uktransportgames]

I also noticed that Class 331 is Amogus 😳

[@StarlifeStudios]

Amogus Mary? Like Among Us? 😃

[@transitcaptain]

@@StarlifeStudios Haha

[@paulwilkinson7470]

Where is there

[@bt_photography313]

What Camera Do You Use? Just curious

[@StarlifeStudios]

Hello! I use a Panasonic HC-VX1 for my filming.

[@googlehomeboi9975]

That 158 at the start

[@alfredosgaming340]

What about it

[@googlehomeboi9975]

@@alfredosgaming340 yes

[@alfredosgaming340]

@@googlehomeboi9975 what are you on about???

[@transitcaptain]

Does it normally work Leeds - Wigan Services?

[@StarlifeStudios]

I believe most of the 2IXX diagrams between Leeds and Wigan have always been 158s.

[@Usenowgamer]

50fps? noice

[@StarlifeStudios]

Hi Usenowgamer, this video was a test to see if 50 FPS was possible with my current setup. Whilst it has been proven possible, I don’t think it gave that much extra value to the video.

[@Usenowgamer]

@@StarlifeStudios idk about that. The video looked extra smooth compared to usual but if it takes ages to export or upload it might not be worth it

[@cteasdale1979]

Wigan good for pies

[@margaretaciubotaru3247]

Why do the white 390s look so old and boring At least put some effort avant west coast

[@margaretaciubotaru3247]

#221areboring