Trains in Cincinnati 1956

[@JawTooth]

Awesome that someone caught this history for us! I wasn't even hatched when this was made

[@Im_TheLineageLifter]

The B&O Cincinnatian pacific was a beautiful steamer

[@JawTooth]

@@Im_TheLineageLifter It would have been something to have been around back then to see that.

[@BOBXFILES2374a]

"We're Not Worthy" to see this video! The sheer size and power of these brutes! And to see 2 or 3 of them, just moving extra cabooses around the yard! Glad to see B&O washed the engine of the Capitol Limited! Boy, where's my time machine! This should be sold by a train video company!

[@MarkInLA]

11:41 - 12:07 The bone yard waiting for the scrapper's torches !! So sad. So sad...The beginning of the end of the romance with the railroad... Oh, I know people still love it today..But the real deal was steam and all its trappings that thrilled us little boys and started the model railroading hobby...Diesels just ain't the same..... Thank you for these wonderful moments miraculously caught on film...

[@WAL_DC-6B]

Nice shot of a somewhat rare New York Central subsidiary, Pittsburg & Lake Erie (P&LE) A-2a, 2-8-4 Berkshire running light starting at 13:07. These A-2a's were the last steam locomotives built by the American Locomotive Co. (ALCO). Interestingly, the huge tenders were built by Lima Locomotive Works as by the time the P&LE ordered the engines ALCO had already shut down its tender shop for good. A total of seven of the powerful Berkshires were built for the P&LE and all were delivered between May and June 1948. They finished their careers on the NYC "Big Four" lines and were all scrapped by early 1957. Terrific 1950s vintage steam locomotive shots in southern Ohio and thanks for sharing!

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

did you saw NYC 5406.

[@WAL_DC-6B]

@@maxwellwalcher6420 No, can't say I did.

[@dennis-ul5ht]

The trains pictured in this video from the Pennsylvania Railroad and the Norfolk and Western were actually filmed in Columbus, Ohio in yards that were nearly side-by-side...

[@mesenteria]

B&O also features several times, and the New York Central (System).

[@SRJason747]

2:20 is Dayton I’m pretty sure. The line that’s curving toward the camera should be the PRR that goes south toward the UD campus and the Union Station is visible in the background

[@tonyromano6220]

NYC

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

@@tonyromano6220 did you see Hudson 5406 that's my favorite.

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

@@mesenteria did you like Hudson 5406.

[@gregleuze6657]

I really liked the train of cabooses. Wish there was more video of that. Born too late to have seen this. We lived in the Cincinnati area and I remember seeing in the mid to late 70’s long trains of tank or box cars with the cat on them. Also remember my dad grumbling when he was stuck at the crossing while taking me to the sitter early in the morning. Remember playing on the engines and trains on display at Lunken Airport. All great memories.

[@haroldwilkes6608]

Ditto on cabeese, liked the different styles, a modeler's dream.

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

@@haroldwilkes6608 What NYC Hudson did you like.

[@Robbie_Prz]

Such great footage, thank you so much for uploading!

[@ticearpey3235]

I love seeing the L-3 and L-4 Mohawks on passenger duty instead of freight.

[@hartmutlorentzen9659]

This great video should be digitally remastered! Thanks for presentation from Germany

[@porthuronerieproductions9980]

13:08 That right there is probably the centerpiece of this entire video. I have never seen footage of a P&LE A2a Berkshire in operation, you have my respect!

[@DavidSanchez-ks4ub]

Herron Rail has some footage of the Berks from Donald J Krofta, but it was in black and white as opposed to this color footage.

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

@@DavidSanchez-ks4ub did you like the NYC J3a Hudsons.

[@GTgyro]

I kept waiting and hoping to see some big N&W iron, and was not disappointed. Great footage of Class A 2-6-6-4s! These NW in-shop built giants were actually more powerful, faster, and used far less fuel than Alco's Challengers sold to UP and the Clinchfield, etc. Those 2-10-4's were a treat, too!

[@ernestanderson3726]

Thanks for posting Gerry. Looks like all Super-8. Towards the end was great seeing the steamer doing a street run. That's a rare thing to see.

[@fredhainen]

No, regular 8mm. Super 8 did not come until 1962. All steam was pretty much gone everywhere by then.

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

@@fredhainen did you see J3a Hudson 5406.

[@WA1LBK]

Great vintage footage, especially in color! :)

[@alanwright7819]

This is some great trackside footage! It’s a shame that personal movie cameras didn’t have sound back in those days, but the video alone was simply awesome! Thank you so much for sharing!

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

Opening scene is Dayton,Ohio. At 2:20 is location they called "Sam's place." Dayton,,the Miami river bridge. The track on lower left is the northern terminus of the PRR ,,DL&C also called the CL&N,,this line went to Cincy via Lebanon. This line ran on a ridge between the Miami and Little Miami rivers, thus it was the only line into Dayton that did not flood in the 1913 flood.

[@eottoe2001]

Thank you. I couldn't place it in Cincinnati. It looked like the station up in Dayton to me but I wasn't sure.

[@tootired76]

I can guarantee whomever watched this person taking motion pictures of trains thought they had lost their minds!! "Steam will never die!!" I believe this person knew which way the wind was blowing!! Thank God they recorded what they did! And to see them parked forever....

[@haroldwilkes6608]

Yep, the graveyards were very sad. Miss the big iron.

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

@@haroldwilkes6608 did you see the Hudsons.

[@choirboyfromhell1]

Actually quite a bit of Dayton, Columbus and Youngstown Gateway! Love the Joyce Ave./CW shots towards the end. THIS IS GOLDEN!

[@Buffalodiv1968]

Great stuff! I model all of these RR’s mostly the PRR, B&O, and NYC in the 50’s. I recognized the scenes around Columbus. Very interesting, and helpful to the model railroader!

[@daniko4447]

wait, this video is all about Columbus?

[@hartmutlorentzen9659]

Excellent video, Thanks for presentation, from Germany

[@rogerhuber3133]

Great film and coverage of the local railroads. Would have liked to have seen more N&W, especially J and K-1 classes. Seeing the 244 was a treat as well as the beautiful blue B&O P-7s. As a big fan of the Pennsy J1 class this was a wonderful film. Thanks!

[@Stussmeister]

A very nice video. I was born long after the twilight of steam locomotives, but I've nevertheless had a passion for railroads and trains from a very young age. I also plan on modeling a mountain railroad during the 1940s-50s era, and will primarily be using Pennsy engines.

[@johnmaggard8384]

Things move back to Cincinnati from about 13:30 - 17:30. Great shots of Pennsy decapods, J1's and N&W A's in Columbus!

[@dennis-ul5ht]

At the 13:10 mark is a real oddity: a 2-8-4 constructed by Alco (with its tender built by Lima) in 1948 for the P & LE...hardly a trendsetter with 63" drivers it was forced upon the railroad by its NYC parent company and only lasted 5.5 years...it was later sent to the Big Four (based in Bellefontaine) for a rather undistinguished year of service...retired 1956, scrapped 1957...there was a terrific CLASSIC TRAINS article in 2004 entitled "The Unwanted Berkshires"...

[@poodlesgalore2327]

Fantastic filming, sound or no sound. At least we have the film!

[@gaborgredely1848]

Ezek a filmek egy olyan korszakot mutatnak be amely rég eltünt. A vasuti dolgozók sem élnek. Szerintem is negy értéket képviselnek. A történelem egy adott időszakát mutatják be.

[@dougcostello9064]

Great old videos. Thanks for sharing.

[@michaelricks1618]

Starts with New York Central passenger trains, some at high speed viewed from line side, then moves to yard scenes featuring magnificent freight loco super-power including Pennsy 2-10-4 & N&W articulateds. B&O locos feature occasionally as do switchers and train crews riding atop tenders. This film captures the gritty reality of steam engines at work and will provide model railroaders with a tremendous amount of weathering inspiration! The film is silent yet mercifully free of muzak overdubbing,, too. This is one of the best films of USA railroading I have seen. Do check it out!

[@plinthley]

Great footage! Particularly like that it is silent, and that the silence has not been ruined by some pointless soundtrack. It's also a sure cure for insomnia! Ten minutes of this was all I needed to drift off to solid slumber!

[@stephenheath8465]

The great Eastern Roads were the last hold out of Steam .The PRR N&W,C&O and NYC.We all wish that this footage had audio

[@haroldwilkes6608]

True but in my mind I can still hear the engines roar. This was my time. Still hard to believe we developed filters and could hear normal conversations standing next to these lovable beasts

[@choirboyfromhell1]

Aw man....doubleheaded I-1/J-1 departing Penor for Sandusky....DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER!

[@juliangerardcascio1111]

This is a great Video 📹 👏 👌 👍 🙌 😀!!!!

[@mitchcornacchia968]

Glorious days of steam and just another day at work!!!!!!

[@louislamonte334]

Magnificent footage!! What a true treasure!

[@cloudedarctrooper]

Absolutely magnificent

[@williamschlenger1518]

Great video.I was 13yrs old & steam was still running.

[@singlewingful]

I wish they had sound!

[@wjsj69]

What a great shot of a Hudson winding thru that switch maze! Makes my Lionels seem more real when they do it!

[@JeffreyStrader]

I love watching things like this!

[@peteengard9966]

I loved the contrast between filthy locomotives with bright white cab curtains. Except for the NYC switcher they all need a bath.

[@darrylbond5238]

Fantastic footage.

[@williamschlenger1518]

It's amazing to watch all the different railroads back then.

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

I Love the NYC Hudsons.

[@funklover24]

Phantastic! 🚂👍

[@joeystrains.9316]

Awesome footage

[@SteamCrane]

Just wonderful! I watched NKP Berkshires daily through junior high school. How things have changed - "OK, just be careful". Good to see that you have more old movies, I'll be back!

[@waltergabriel3694]

I wish there was sound, I remember in 1976 the freedom train passing through Columbus, Ohio. I lived near West Jefferson. It was about 6:30 am. I heard the steam engine. Jumped on my bike rode to the track just to see and hear it. Thanks for sharing.

[@arktisusa3477]

Wow, this is great.

[@ericgriswold1268]

I was 4 yrs old in 1956, and living in Ohio, but quite farther North between Fostoria and Tiffin. I never got to see NYC steam in action. The B&O was another story - riding behind Class P1d Pacific type between Tiffin and Defiance. Last steamer seen live was third Monday of June 1957 Westbound light to Garrett, IN. Class P7d.

[@haroldwilkes6608]

I've lived from the last days of the steam engine to the last days of the gasoline engine...no complaints at all. Nice video.

[@tonyromano6220]

PRR I1a is just an amazing loco!

[@jodyreeder4820]

Amazing

[@rogerlollar4325]

Back in the good old days when steam was king

[@joebliss3609]

A trip back in time!

[@mikemacch]

King of the coal road N&W 2=6=6=4, number 1227 around 20:56, great shots. Must see!

[@FranciscoAntonio-rd1eu]

Dios!... qué hermosas y Gloriosas Máquinas, donde quedaron ? , deberían tener un Lugar especial sólo para ellas, son parte importante de la Historia, gracias.

[@dutchcitroen2cv]

beautifull machines

[@johnmaggard8384]

The very first sequence to around 2:45 with NYC movements are in and around the Dayton, Ohio Union Station.

[@tedlawrence4189]

Film from about 5:00 to 6:00 looke more liked being filmed around 1949-50 rather than '56. I am using the cars parked by the track as reference.

[@chriswright8464]

NICE.

[@sunyotopurwadi3820]

Bravo Guys.

[@YahshuaLovesMe]

WOW!

[@nelsonnoname001]

I believe the opening shot is Dayton

[@FranciscoAntonio-rd1eu]

9:04 qué Hermosa Locomotora.

[@restoredoutboards]

That stations scene is Dayton Union Station in .Dayton Ohio.

[@MiddletownBranchProd.]

an N&W A class amidst PRR J1s is kinda controversial, seeing as the PRR tested an A and a C&O T1, which the PRR ended up basing the J1s off of the T1. if Pennsy had used the A class plans, the FG-1 might be in here

[@StevieinSF]

Nice - Love all the steam locomotives using coal, no diesels.

[@coolbreeze253]

Much of this must have been filmed prior to 1956 because by then the PRR was running steam with only a few K-4s on limited routes. As a child I remember seeing some on the Jersey Shore route to Bay Head Junction as late as 1957. I do recall seeing a huge N & W coal drag in Virginia during the summer of 1958 as they were one of the last to abandon steam.

[@bullfrommull]

The B&O P-7 president class 👌

[@danielwilliams6956]

My understanding was that Mykawa yards was our local scrap destination for these aesthetic creatures, that year I was born. Not a day I wouldnt want to see them, in 2022. Ahh but for the economic diesel.

[@sausagefingers2885]

Yikes, No wonder so much went to scrap yard. Notice how the trains are thrashed along that stick rail without a second thought!

[@choirboyfromhell1]

Springfield street running for the end marker! WIN!

[@tonyromano6220]

Amazing amount of steam left.

[@imacgra1]

I can't believe how huge these locos were. Decapods as shunters, behemoths everywhere! Wow!

[@ogragan3492]

Sure woulda been awesome ear candy at 24:45

[@jonnybeck6723]

Thanx

[@richardesthay1942]

I've always been curious about something. What purpose did the big flat plates on either side at the front of the engines serve. It's probably something simple, but I've never figured it out.

[@jakekoester]

Smoke deflectors to channel the smoke away from the cab because at speed there was a vacuum effect created at the cab and hindered the engineers visibility.. you see them on the New York Central "Mohawk" locomotives. The 4-8-2 wheel arrangement ones and sometimes on the Hudsons too.

[@richardesthay1942]

@@jakekoester Thank you for your reply. I wondered for years about their purpose. I appreciate the information.

[@maxwellwalcher6420]

@@jakekoester did you see the J3a Hudsons.

[@jakekoester]

@@richardesthay1942 no problem brother they were on the NYCs Niagra locos too the 4-8-4s

[@jakekoester]

@@maxwellwalcher6420 yes you referring to the Dreyfuss streamliners.. they were beautiful

[@Robbie_Prz]

Can someone tell where the streetrunning at the end was?

[@bertmeinders6758]

Early in the video, there is what looks like a NYC Niagara. What a pity so few US locomotives were preserved. Not surprising, though, if the struggle to save a few steam locos in New Zealand was in any way typical, with a thoroughly stalinist attitude by the railways towrds the motive power they had until recently relied on.

[@DavidSanchez-ks4ub]

The first NYC engine shown was L3a Mohawk 3005. It was removed from the roster after being sideswiped in an accident in 1955, but it's classmate 3001 still survives today.

[@dennis-ul5ht]

Nearly all of the Niagaras were gone by 1956, with the final run of the 6015 in July, 1956...

[@dennis-ul5ht]

@@DavidSanchez-ks4ub The 3005 was "The Mohawk That Refused To Abdicate" that David Morgan (TRAINS magazine) highlighted in his famous end-of-steam book about chasing the final operations in the mid-'50's

[@DavidSanchez-ks4ub]

@@dennis-ul5ht I have the book. It's one of my favorites in my library.

[@Mercmad]

I was a third Generation NZR employee. Both Grandfathers,my dad and several uncles were all employed during the last of the NZ steam era. I was a Loco maintainer before leaving n 1977. To me one of the tradgedys was the ed of the Kingston Flier .

[@traintractorfan1013]

Where was the street running at the end? Ive always loved steam street running and if I ever build a layout it'll include it for sure! (prototypical or not!)

[@svenmartin840]

Just think in a few years. All those steamers would be sold for scrap. Or replaced by types of diesels locomotives.

[@jdriley24]

Why do some of the tenders appear to have a cab in them?

[@09JDCTrainMan]

14:06 Aye, the President Washington!

[@jakekoester]

What did Pennsylvania call those 2-10-4s I'm not familiar with the naming of those.. I know the rest.. the Hudson, the Berkshires, the Mohawks and such but not those?

[@jakekoester]

@@Matts_Conrail_Chicago_Mainline thanks bro

[@Railfan-uv9dj]

Hey I'm the 1,000 like😁

[@trainman1ish]

unfortunately without sounds :-(

[@railron1935]

Were there really J-1s in the Cincinnati area?

[@waltergekeler9742]

How the heck do you manage to produce such waggely pictures from films taken with tripods or cool hands? Otherwise, great historiclyy very valuiable interesting films!

[@joewoodchuck3824]

What are the shrouds on the front for?

[@bobvidoni5898]

To deflect smoke. Smoke deflectors, sometimes called "blinkers" in the UK because of their strong resemblance to the blinkers used on horses, and "elephant ears" in US railway slang, were vertical plates attached to each side of the smokebox at the front of a steam locomotive. They were designed to lift smoke away from the locomotive at speed so that the driver has better visibility. Smoke deflectors became increasingly common on later steam locomotives because the velocity of smoke exiting the chimney had been reduced as the result of efficiency gains obtained by improved smokebox design, such as the Kylchap exhaust and Giesl ejector.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

@@bobvidoni5898 You sure sound knowledgeable. Thanks!

[@bobvidoni5898]

@@joewoodchuck3824 I had asked my dad the same question many years ago when I first saw it. I guess everyone does because it looks a little bit strange.

[@tommythomason6187]

Those behemoth steam engines look heavier than any contemporary diesel locomotive.

[@rdgk1se3019]

Sound?

[@coloradostrong]

It is awesome! These things are beastly with a sub-woofer bringing them to life.

[@kadenrobinson7067]

I live near Cincinnati ohio

[@dathpo]

Seems to me much of this video is around Columbus and Dayton, Ohio. Most, if not all, of the N&W footage is not Cincinnati. Same for the Pennsy films too. If they were Cincinnati, there would be hills in the background. I see none.

[@JungleYT]

*Wheel slip? - **5:28** Was just a line of cabooses. Did he give it too much juice or what?*

[@rearspeaker6364]

bad track, going thru switches, plus oil on those rails.

[@JungleYT]

@@rearspeaker6364 Got it... Thanks

[@YoNabung]

Cincinnati itu daerah mana min?

[@bobvidoni5898]

Amerika Serikat

[@hartmutlorentzen9659]

Mon dieu, quelle question!

[@ronniedelahoussayechauvin6717]

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