Traitor King #24: So, Was Edward VIII a Fool or a Traitor?

[@lc7898]

All in all, Princess Elizabeth (back then) was always destined to become Queen. Even if Wallis and Edward were allowed to marry, both were unable to produce heirs. How funny some people are born to fulfill a destiny and nothing can get in the way of that.

[@azurebadger]

She also allowed her country to fall to socialism. Africa to communism. It was the press, her personal comments on rhodesia, silence in the genocide that mugabe enacted. Many things. Charles was one of the first to back the wef actually. They no longer have representative governance and can be prisoned for speech if someone has feelings. And canada, australia, and the government of the UK rule with the consent of the sovereign. Not the governed. That is law. Stop pretending they are merely the theater piece you love so much

[@lisalivingston6473]

@lc7898 Excellent point!

[@annarchydeclutteranddesign413]

Yes, but not until she was middle aged - we would not have had the essential goodness of King George VI, or the beauty of young Queen Elizabeth - though they would both have personally preferred more of a private life, they were crafted for duty.

[@kaddyd1815]

If there was a British country to govern….just think of how Hitler would have used that twit…

[@MegsyPato]

Wow, I had never thought of that, that’s amazing 🥰

[@lornaackerman7022]

The Windsors did not love each other because neither of them were capable of genuine love, but they believed that they felt love for each other. He was thoroughly obsessed with her and she was thoroughly obsessed with what he could provide to her. They were cruel, self centered evil people.

[@manuelajager8517]

I do believe in reincarnation.😅

[@ednanieves8572]

Hmm, sounds familiar.

[@greerstirling9665]

He was both a fool and a traitor. Loved this series, keep em coming girl.

[@lisalivingston6473]

@greerstirling9665 I agree...the two are not mutually exclusive, and the book proved to me that David was a foolish "boy man" as well as a traitor to his country and family. David and Wallis were the epitome of MFEO (made for each other) - LOL!

[@sagrammyfour]

We'll done!.Reading is one of the great loves of my life, but I'm 77 and though my interest never wanes, my eyes tire easily., so I am grateful for your reviews. Thanks to YT and you, I got to enjoy this book. I love history and the stories of people great and small who helped shape it. The best reading seasons for me have been cold dreary winters or warm sunny summers. Spring and fall are for going and doing--not much time to read. I always received books for Christmas, and in the summer I could cuddle up with another treasure perched in a tree, feeling gentle breezes, smelling the sweetness of leaves, grass and flowers. One place we lived had apple, pear and plum trees--I was in heaven. At age 13, for Christmas my mother gave me a ANNE FRANK'S DIARY and GONE WITH THE WIND. Anne's story profoundly changed my life forever. I read and understood the fictional love story of Rhett and Scarlet as a naive teenager, and found that when I re-read it as a grown woman, it became a whole new story to me. Wow--two-for-one.

[@RosadoVid]

I read GWTW in middle school- and again in my late teens - I think it’s time to read it again in my 50’s! Thank you for the inspiration!

[@Wanda711]

The "What might have beens" are fascinating. If Edward hadn't abdicated, would Churchill have ever become Prime Minister? Sure he supported Edward during the abdication crisis, but he NEVER would have supported a pro-Hitler line. He always saw Hitler as a threat. As the crisis on the continent deepened, Churchill might have ended up leading a movement to *depose* the king and replace him with his brother. Kings have been dethroned before, even in England. And what would have happened to Edward then? He might have been permanently confined to some isolated place where he'd never be heard from, like Napoleon sent to St. Helena.

[@DebbiSmithDC]

It has been an eye opener for sure. So glad “we” explored this couple. Thank you!

[@rikkiharcourt3868]

Dear CheereDenise, you are pure gold. I love your storytelling with critical analysis alongside icing the cake. I would love all that anyway but for those of us who live alone it is an extra treat. Not having anyone to talk a book over with us is a great sadness. I have plenty of friends but most of them don’t read that much or read different stuff. You keep me sane!! Thank you.

[@cheeredenise]

Isn’t it nice to find people who joy the things you do? ♥️ so glad we can read together!

[@theresabashford1726]

I agree it's not the divorcee angle that was the problem, it was the Nazi association, it's not only the UK that dodged a bullet, the whole of Europe would be very different today if the UK had sided with Germany, also given the size of the British Empire the world today would look very different

[@KnutFan]

Cheere, I so enjoy your commentary and reading on these videos. Currently, I’m fascinated with this Truman Capote miniseries that is coming out. There’s a book about him and his “swans”. It might flow quite well with thiis Traitor King book because it is based in the same period. a lot of the women that were close friends with Truman Capote were extremely wealthy and hung out with Wallis and David at times. The author name is Leonard Learner and book Title is Capote's Women: A True Story of Love, Betrayal, and a Swan Song for an Era. It would be fascinating to hear about Wallis and David’s contemporaries, and the fashion, fads, politics and trends of that era. Lots of scandals too!

[@malindasmith5114]

Yes. The answer is yes. The chances that the monarchy, and perhaps Britain would have survived WW2 with him on the throne are very slim. His foolishness remains shocking.

[@gloriasmess]

Not patronising you. There are quite a few novels written from the premise that the Allies lost WW2, they terrify me!

[@leslieplayfair9836]

I cannot post a new comment for some reason. David never grew up and remained a juvenile for his entire life. He never had to do chores, decide on a career or worry about money. It seems he never had to behave with deference to anybody. His relationship with Wallis was more of an anxious child trying to please a strict mother than husband and wife. How stupid would he have been to believe Hitler would win the war and crown David and Wallis the rulers of the realm? All of his family and relatives would have been executed like the Russian Romanovs in 1917 and then they would have been disposed of. Wallis did not have to marry him but she did. These two superficial idiots found each other and lived out their pathetic lives dodging any kind of financial responsibility, scamming every person that was drawn to them.

[@yehuditcollins6783]

I was born a Jewish girl in 1936. The abdication for sure saved my life.

[@lisalivingston6473]

@@gloriasmess I bet those novels terrify you, especially in 2024 as former President Trump runs for office again. Talk about chilling...my blood just ran cold!

[@malindasmith5114]

@@lisalivingston6473, that is not the topic.

[@elineman7]

It’s been an incredibly interesting book review!! Lots of love to Cheere. Enjoyed so much. ❤

[@mkass2196]

Thank you for reviewing book. Was quite interesting. Cannot believe how much this couple reminds me of the Hazbeens😂😂. Think they are the reincarnation of the Windsor’s.

[@marguerite9605]

Walmart Wallis

[@loubieloujones5698]

Please don't apologise for needing a week to get ahead! I honestly don't know how you do it all as it is with your job and your family. I'm in awe! And thoroughly enjoying all your work on YT 🥰

[@cheeredenise]

Thank you so much!

[@lizziesimmi5646]

I watched a programme about Thelma Furness the mistress who Wallace stole Edward from. She had a lot of tragedy in her life, quite sad really. I think Wallace & Edward were destined to be together due to their self centred, grandiose and grasping personalities. I like to think that fate took a hand and this was a good thing because it led to our beautiful queen Elizabeth taking the throne after her brave father who stepped up to the mark during a turbulent time in our history. Thank you so much Cheere, I have enjoyed every one of these videos and appreciated your thoughts and interpretations delivered with sardonic humour with liberal sprinklings of sass

[@celiaprado-teeling1408]

This book was brilliant! I was hooked from beginning to end

[@sallypettit7156]

I have mixed feelings, I do not want this book to end. 😢

[@esterbengoa6077]

I feel your pain.😭💔

[@HR-nl7fc]

No question, Wallis was an accomplished manipulator. No doubt David was a traitor. However, if he’d been just a bit smarter, together they would have been much more dangerous. Churchill was in the position of having to tread a very fine line during this period.

[@gloriasmess]

In common with other notable members of the Royal Family; Edward was foolish in his stubbornness, arrogance and overwhelming belief that his birth privileges as King would continue when he left the throne. Edward was clearly a traitor too. Many people in Europe did not know the extent (or even the beginning) of Hitler’s intentions. Why? Because Hitler hid the reality behind politics, extreme politics, yes. Most people could not have imagined what the Nazis were truly planning. Churchill was not always likeable, though he was an incredible statesman. He knew exactly what Hitler was doing, Churchill saw straight through Edward VIII too. For years Edward was fed false and decoy information about the Allied plans against Hitler.

[@MegsyPato]

You DEFINITELY deserve a buffer week, you are the HARDEST worker and we are all so grateful ❤ Thank you for pre recording this other book while you have a breather, that is so thoughtful of you Cheere 🥰

[@freciemagdirila7075]

I just read the thumbnail’s question, and before watching the video, my answer is a resounding “BOTH”.

[@magsstewart5488]

Just bought the book and was waiting for this last chapter review before beginning it. What I’ve never understood about the crown is WHY they never denounced the Windsors publicly as traitors.

[@lisalivingston6473]

@magsstewart5488 Just another skeleton best left in the closet, I guess?

[@LG-nb5ur]

Probably the same reason they haven't yet (and probably never will,) denounce the sussex succubuses.

[@MegsyPato]

Thank you so much Cheere for choosing this book, it was so fascinating and I learnt so much. Before this, I didn’t actually really know anything about Wallis and David. I will admit., last chapter was hard to listen to, not because of you sweetie, but, just because of David and Wallis’s freakish way’s 😬 Thank you Cheere too for the entertaining way you read every chapter, you are not only funny, but, I love that you explain things that I would miss if I had read this on my own. No wonder you are a teacher, your students are extremely blessed to have you ❤❤❤

[@elinstar6034]

I don’t know how you get it all done! One book at a time sounds very sensible for the time being.

[@yoclark2723]

What an eye opening book. I shudder to think that Edward might have kept the throne and the Nazis would have waltzed into London to continue their evil plan. I am excited to go through Tyler Zed's book. Mine is on order and should arrive soon.

[@Nat-lg2ks]

Theres letters from Wallis to her Ex stating she didnt love David and felt trapped so not sure how it can be such a debate

[@evelynpaterson2823]

Both of them totally self absorbed so an unlikely love story. The didn’t have any children so our gracious Queen would have eventually been crowned. We definitely dodged a bullet.

[@d33j44]

Thank you for the educational entertainment! Whenever a mention of these two comes up I have that knowing grin of “if people really knew, they’d drop the love story baloney “ . Another example of whitewashed history.

[@gabbyb4493]

Harry is definitely the reincarnation of Edward!

[@cocop5058]

Hi Cheere, thank you for another great book review. Your analysis is always spot on and I so enjoy the wit and humor you add to your analysis. I’d like to add another possible future read to your list, if I may. Granted, it involves a different type of royalty - Hollywood royalty - but I think it might interest you and your viewers. The book is titled: Furious Love, by Sam Kashner, and details the so-called “marriage of the century” between Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton. The backdrop to their relationship is the jet-setting 1960’s, when fabulous wealth, which had previously been kept quiet and discreet, suddenly became garishly and publicly on display. One could argue that Elizabeth Taylor was the OG Kardashian. lol. Anyhoo, check it out. See what you think. 🤗

[@Candy-O1776]

Thank you so much for your fine reading of this book, it certainly opened my eyes.

[@sagrammyfour]

I have been reading about ANOTHER HENRY, a real man, a warrior, whose bravery, sacrifice and loyalty were astonishing. The modern day Prince Harry is not worthy to polish the boot of this man. In 1403 AT AGE 16, he defended his father, King Henry IV against rebels at the Battle of Shrewsbury. He took an arrow in the face but kept fighting. Afterwards he endured several painful surgeries to dislodge the arrow which was buried 6 inches deep in his head. This was followed by weeks of painful wound treatment which left him terribly disfigured. You will never see a full face portrait of him due to the terrible scars. Then in 1415 as King Henry V, he fought bravely, defeating the French in the Battle of Agincourt. Our Prince Harry has brought shame and disgrace on himself, his family, his ancestors, and his country. Apparently, he has no idea where he came from. He should have paid attention in school...

[@jenslims]

Thank you Cheere Denise! I loved your reading of this book. As a Brit, it’s part of our history but I had no idea quite how close we came to disaster. We have to thank Wallis for something I guess!! Looking forward to the Diana one next 😊

[@marylyn3081]

What a GREAT story! So well researched. Thank you Andrew Lownie. You pulled it all together. I enjoyed this journey so much and have watched every WWII movie I can find! Very poignant today that we don't let history repeat itself!

[@sherrimcgrath5910]

I have learned alot about them that I did not know, great book, thanks for bringing it to us!

[@DarkSkies72]

The RF hated her because he gave up his throne because of her which forced the so not ready George VI to the throne. Queen Mary and Elizabeth I blame George VI early death on him, the stress which caused him to smoke more etc.

[@bdu2sac]

Enjoyed your review! My mother and her family were Canadian and I grew up with the Royal Family for as long as I can remember. I'm so happy I came across your channel from the review of spare. I adore you and look forward to many more. You have a wonderful gift of storytelling and humor!

[@dt3802]

It was an excellent book and thank you for doing it. The similarities between D&W and the California duo is striking. Was gobsmacked when it was asked, is he stupid or a traitor. I think many wonder the same about Henry.

[@Rando15]

There's always a sense of bereavement at the end of a good book. I'm delighted to get to the end, but when I get there, it's a feeling of "what do I do now?" Thank you for this excellent review. I'm looking forward to the new one.

[@irenepwheeldon]

Indeed, he was a foolish traitor. His whole life was centred around Wallis, and his attempts at being a King in exile with his own court and his idea that he and Wallis were King and Queen.

[@_ma1]

So glad you read this book! Looking forward to the Diana book. It is interesting how similar the duke of Windsor was to his grandfather Edward VII, both of them extremely unserious men and both of them deeply disliked by their mothers.

[@robinanddaviddavies8317]

Bertie never betrayed his country.

[@_ma1]

@@robinanddaviddavies8317 what are you talking about?

[@sagrammyfour]

You're killing me--I have to look up words--"trope," petain..." It goes to show we're never to old to learn.

[@BeBe76182]

It was a good book! Thank you!

[@kaken3137]

Thanks Cheere! Can't wait for the next book. I feel like I'm attending book club from the comfort of my living room 🙂 - so much fun!

[@vickicarreno8932]

Thank you Again For Reviewing This Book, I Love British Historical Literature And This Was Very Much Up My Alley!

[@robyn874]

Loved this book along with your commentary 😊 I appreciate all the time & effort you put into this endeavour as I look forward to my weekly dose of hearing from you ❤Thankyou

[@zoompt-lm5xw]

Another great book! Thanks Onward to Diana's book 😊

[@rumakingthatup]

When you take into account what a masochist Edward was, is it too far fetched to think that he actually enjoyed watching Jews and other groups suffer? It's a bit disturbing that he had Wallis humiliate and degrade him as foreplay for/during their sexual romps. How many times did they play concentration camp guard and prisoner of war?

[@robbieatwell9462]

Oh my gosh,Thank you.ive always been very intrigued by the British Royals,and and you have bewitched me with this breakdown of this book.I actually hate to see it's end I now have watched several documentaries on on David and Wallis,and watching them with the knowledge of your brilliant coverage made them so much more!!!!Bravo my dear,and thanks for another awesome book. Harry and megan wish they were as interesting as they

[@DeniseWhittle]

Thank you for the experience of Traitor King. I learnt so much that I never knew about both David and Wallis Simpson. England was so lucky he abdicated. It would have been a very different outcome if David had stayed on the throne. Looking forward to your next book. I so enjoy listening to them. Thank you from New Zealand 🌻

[@susandelongis885]

I believe Churchill did all he could to support the “romance” knowing it would lead to abdication, somewhat at the expense of his own reputation. But, certainly intelligence knew what he was doing. He knew war was coming. He wanted Windsor to trust him so he would confide in him throughout his perilous treachery, till he was safely removed to The Bahamas. Churchill was a military genius. He knew Windsor not only did not want the responsibility of the crown, but could never be trusted and would bring disaster on England. His tactics were a perfect example of keep your friends close, your enemies closer. Thanks for your great book studies! ❤️

[@neilsun2521]

Can imagine the scandal. As late as 1960 every film shown in a British cinema would end with the playing of Rule Britannia and the audience would stand up and sing along patriotically. So it was a completely different country back then. (Nowadays the government tell you you're evil if you express national pride outside of football/sports.)

[@lynette4392]

We so appreciate you! I so enjoy listening to your reviews. So entertaining!

[@lindabarrett5631]

This has been a great read. Thank you so much!

[@lynnewilliams6662]

Thank you that was eye opening and brilliantly read ❤️❤️❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@user-qr9dn6lf3l]

Thank you for an extremely interesting and absorbing read and review. I have thoroughly enjoyed it!

[@marlenewolffe4613]

Thank you. Have so enjoyed this book with you❤

[@vlclark1]

Bravo!! Great read, Cheer!! Thanks for your time and talents. 👏 Now on to the next❤

[@LiLiJo]

I enjoyed this so much. Thank you. How the Windsors and Sussex’s mirror each other is incredible.

[@lilyred8120]

So sad for this book to end. Thanks.

[@ljannell]

I am not familiar with that KZbinr, however I am excited about it based on your excitement. I am a little apprehensive about the Princess Diana book, because I have an affection for her, even though I do recognize she wasn't perfect. Either way, I have enjoyed the books you have picked so far and do look forward to the next royal book. Yes all those things about kid stuff is so true! It feels like the year has flow by even though it's still only Jan!

[@debbiepatton9593]

Really enjoyed listening to you read this book. Kinda sad it’s over

[@cheeredenise]

I have high hopes for The Real Diana and King Charles III…in the meantime, while you wait for next Sunday, this next memoir is a pretty incredible story!

[@reneej7594]

I think you’re right that if they had just been normal and not everything we find out they were in this book, the Royals would’ve been much more receptive to them. Also, I celebrated the end of this book, too!!! It was hard to get through, but worth finishing. This channel was a big help in getting through it!!

[@michelegraham9044]

Harry too is a fool and a traitor. I’m sad this book has ended. The sign of a great book. Thank you.

[@jaimekennedy5750]

Thankyou for reviewing this book! As awful as the Windsor's were, your commentary was enthralling! I'd probably quit reading, in pure disgust. The Sussexs are truly the Windsors 2.0... Thank God it was before the internet...

[@katect5992]

I really loved this series. Sp interesting and such fun listening to you telling the story. Thank you.

[@sandijohnson2216]

Love this coverage so much I’m gonna have to watch the whole thing all over again!

[@starlightone6948]

I knew a lot of this but my goodness they were a very troubled pair. Great read.❤️🇨🇦🐕

[@karenrobertson2312]

So ready to spend a little time with you! What a book!

[@KarmaZeusBoi]

Thoroughly enjoyed your reading and discussion of this book. Sad it’s over 😢. But a Diana book is bound to be worth reading 😊

[@karengeorge2924]

Wow, such a good book, I binged watched the last 15 episodes while on holiday. I thought I knew about Wallace and Edward but this book has really filled in my knowledge. The similarities between W & E and Harry & Megan are quite astounding. Absolutely love your delivery Cheere and I'm looking forward to the Trailor book.

[@maryminetola2687]

It's comforting to know the RF survived despite the debacle that was the Duke and Duchess of Windsor the present Duke and Duchess of Dumbarton seem like a walk in the park😂😂😂 excellent summery I enjoyed everything about this book you most of all ❤❤❤

[@cheeredenise]

You are SUPER kind!! Thank you!!

[@ThePrinceandPrincessofWails]

😂 I love your gentle personer then all of a sudden what a weirdo brilliant

[@user-vm1rq1zq3w]

Thank you so much for reading this fabulous and interesting book i loved it 😊 so uncanny how Harry and his wife are so like them x

[@nancychaffin7826]

I didn’t know Tyler Zed had written a book….cant wait!

[@SJ-gy5wm]

Thank for doing this book! What a ride!!!

[@daniellem1296]

Great book and even better review!! Well done Cheere! ❤️❤️❤️

[@jeanniemiller3274]

Loved the book,thank you Cheere! Glad to hear Churchill didn't associate with him afterwards.

[@cheeredenise]

Me too! I was worried about his judgement!

[@lisamcg93]

Well that was so interesting, you just never know what’s going on behind closed doors! Thank you Cheere ❤

[@esterbengoa6077]

I have enjoyed this book so much thanks to you that I'm really sad its over. Thank you very much for all your hard work ❤❤❤

[@DebbiSmithDC]

I hope Tyler gives a shout out to you for doing a review! Good PR for both of you!

[@ZapgermsNow]

I have greatly enjoyed your reading and commentary on this book.

[@paulacostescu1041]

Thank you. I'm watching you on any book you choose. I am fanbase 😂

[@debbrand8106]

Congrats on another wonderful book review!! Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@elinstar6034]

Looking forward to Lady C's deathless prose 😅😊❤

[@avagrego3195]

Good reading, thank you. One book at a time is better for me. Seems like H&M are destined to lead an aimless life flittering from one thing to another much like E&W. One can’t believe everything one hears / reads but I heard MM can be quite nasty. See you later.

[@Unicornfartingrainbows]

Also, I have premium youtube on my iPhone but can’t sync it with my tv, which is where I watch/listen to you. I will find all chapters on youtube and give likes. Again, you’re really talented and great at what you do. Cheers 🥂

[@cheeredenise]

Thank you so much!!

[@theresa42213]

l LOVED this book! lt had more information than l would ever get in a one hour documentary, AND l adore the way you deliver it. May The Lord bless, and keep you Cheerie! :D

[@cysusa]

Thank you so much for this one. What a despicable pair.

[@merrywalsh2809]

Thank you, thank you, Cheere. I don’t know where you find the time, but I am so glad you do. I have thoroughly enjoyed all the book readings and reviews so far. Anything you choose, I am there. This one was indeed fascinating.

[@cher_cher]

Ahh….I’m going to miss you doing the Wallis impressions!! 😫 so damn funny. Especially when you read the part about that German officer hitting the bottle…& speeding in his car, with Wallace in the backseat…without the top on 🤣🤣🤣

[@cheeredenise]

I had forgotten that part 🤣

[@cher_cher]

@@cheeredenise That and the “buzz off mosquito!” ☠️☠️☠️

[@carolmurray8486]

Love your book readings and books and opines!! Looking forward to whatever you pick. Thank you ❤🦋

[@eshiestrik2756]

Thank you Cheere, I have really enjoyed your going through The Traitor King and your thoughts on it. ❤

[@debbybingham8995]

Enjoyed every minute of your reading and analysis. Thank you for sharing your time.

[@juliemacdonald9628]

Great review. Listening to it on audiobooks. There was a program on CBC the passionate eye about the book and the duke and it was well done in case some of your listeners are interested. Can’t wait for Diana book and am already reading Charles 3rd. It’s a great read so far. 😊

[@becktown5464]

I’ve binge watched your reviews of this book the past two days. Your reviews are awesome. I think the book on Lord Mountbatten would be great to review.

[@sherrywinston8885]

I enjoyed this book. Thank you for all you do 😊

[@cornelia5508]

Thank you Cheere you are truly fantastic at bringing these books to life. My conclusion from this book, Traitor King, and Spare and the royal family's response (LACK OF) to all the shenanigans of these people is for my country to become a republic in the next 10yrs. Did you expect that?

[@Francis-kw9ui]

. The king must defend the creeds and biblical law as well as be faithful and trustworthy… but the Reformation did point this out

[@lizziestevenson1908]

Absolutely loved this book - made better with your reading. Thanks so much xxx

[@meganpodesta9197]

Thank you so much. ❤