Why Seangares Didn't Rejoin C9

[@oosto]

sounds like Sean poured his heart and soul into the game but never got the results he wanted. that sucks and I feel for the guy

[@goalkeeper4lyfe117]

+RagingHardHD I would have to agree with you, even though Its sad that he left C9.

[@DownforceRecordings]

+RagingHardHD i think even when he says he loved to play with the others, its still part of the reason y he left, that guys like jordan constantly made bad decisions and forgot what to do in certain strats.

[@markcairney3639]

That's what every single pro does. It just depends how they react to defeat, Sean gave up.

[@ihaveekbom]

+RagingHardHD very off topic but i noticed your picture. is rotmg still alive? havent played that game in a year or so

[@oosto]

+Alfredo3700 a decent amount of players are still active but I rarely play anymore. the devs arent doing much with the game

[@christianhuang9673]

Dazed possesses sean at around 4:10

[@fsgRex]

+Christian Huang lmfao

[@theoryxz]

😂

[@sqwee5365]

THATS INSANE

[@andywise5884]

2:51

[@Hittaros]

So EMO ,dude

[@lipsy440]

Sean was the best thing that happened to cloud9 but his passion and talents were wasted... When Sean was top fragging games it meant his supporting cast weren't stepping up and that happened far too often... A pipe dream, but would love to see him play on a team like Renegades, which I think he'd fit really well in and win games

[@bartoszszczech4944]

Sean + renegades? Nah. He wouldn't fit

[@TrainerTakumi]

+Lipsy sean rarely top fragged

[@davidez97]

+REDKILLER still he was the reason of all their success

[@lipsy440]

im not saying it was a common occurrence, but in the slump it happened too often, no one was stepping up around him

[@雪底下]

IGLs have a hard time top fragging

[@RealErk]

Remember when c9 was good in the summer? Pepperidge farm does.

[@DarkOGYT]

He when they beat Fnatic and everyone hyped them up.

[@mundoloving]

Dude they might come back right now!

[@AryanZANDI]

LOL they got fucked in playoffs

[@sin1sta]

DuckInvasion So did FaZe and G2. Point?

[@AryanZANDI]

No i was laughing at the fact that someone said that they could come back in PGL and they got shit on, but not so badly like faze, Idk what happened to G2 but Faze went 0-3

[@RJBeee91]

4:37 Sean's fatal flaw in his career. Could never get over the notion of playing with friends over playing with a winning team. He literally can barely contain his emotions after posting shit results time and time again, but then when asked about roster changes- he flips a switch. Sean seems like he's just too nice for his own good.

[@badnicc]

Or, he doesn't believe in swapping out players after every failure. Sometimes it's better to keep the core and to continue building on it, just look at VP. They slump every now and again but are one of the best teams in CS history.

[@dankmemes1892]

Nicholas Turner Rip vp

[@nathanhosea489]

@@dankmemes1892 Well,all good things must come to an end,they say.

[@toastcs]

he spoke in a thorrin interview about how early on in his carrer he was the type of player to hop teams to who ever was the winning team, maybe he felt this was the best group of guys he was going to get at the time.

[@jschwartz274]

This interviewer is so good.

[@michaelruggles9441]

he really was

[@gestrobang1328]

Anyone know what his name was?

[@Olter_]

gestrobang132 based reporter

[@Moseshypnosis]

Sean used to topfrag in C9 when Semphis was the coach and shroud was just invited. You could say the same for Adren in Team Liquid I guess. When you're not the IGL you don't have to worry about every little thing for strats, counterstrats and economy.

[@johnnyskeletman8147]

+Nishanth Moses Not really true, you're talking about a c9 that had hiko, and n0thing who was insane at fragging back then. Sean has never been a consistent top fragger.

[@Moseshypnosis]

JohnnySkeletman My bad; I meant to say occasionally. In the match where it was Dignitas vs Cloud9, Sean was topfragging. It's the match with all the Hiko clutches and the huge C9 comeback.

[@johnnyskeletman8147]

Nishanth Moses Yeah, that was a great match.

[@Moseshypnosis]

JohnnySkeletman Yeah that had so many highlight reels.

[@TheElectriczil]

Adren didn't top frag at the major with liquid he was better yes but hiko and simple were SIGNIFICANTLY better even eliege by the end was doing very well however nitro kind of let his team down there where previously he was one of the 2 best NA players

[@MrZallerGaming]

"How the f... sorry not gonna say that" 3 seconds later " it's the same shit "

[@mostrandomnerd]

sounds pretty intelligent to me. nice dude. can't say the same about the rest of na players though. gl sg wherever you want to make it.

[@VoVikMakaR]

SG is the fucking man!

[@SrEiCk21]

Guys let's be real,c9 had very good individuals but they couldn't really cooperate in-game the way they should.Everyone was great,sean was a fucking mastermind,shroud beast aimer,skadoodle one of the top awpers,freak became a great entry fragger,nothing was a great aimer and lurker as well.But the teamwork was horrible and that's what held them down.If they could keep their shit together and work as a team they would be at the top and every team would be afraid of them.

[@tyleringram769]

freak isn't as good as stewie in my opinion

[@SrEiCk21]

yeah stewie is great and probably better,but freak was a great asset as well.Slemmy is not that good

[@visha3661]

+TehFoRoD I agree

[@soysauce6210]

-freak +stew =sean

[@_kopi]

+Tyler Ingram the only problem with Stewie is that his entries work but when they dont, the team is fucked up. i feel that ryan is better teammate but no better player.

[@싸넬동지-7성담배]

Sean is one of the best player, i mean like Pasza, they are true, they are truely good persons. And i totally understand Sean, why he left, in every relation if someone gives everything and he doesn't get back some of it, he'll be that flame, slowly extinguishing, the relation begin to be some kind of "aversion" to those people. He is hurt, and i think he'll need time to forget, that's why he refuses to go back and face again C9, those memories will come back if he join them. Hope him the best with his new team.

[@Suplen]

+HollystineGaming Pasha best player? He had like only one year of being really good. He is mediocre player. He is famous because of his personality but not his skill. Sean had it all. He has massive game brain, and a great skill. I'm sorry for him that he didn't get what he expected from C9, but it's C9. They like more commercialists than players.

[@싸넬동지-7성담배]

Best player doesn't relate to only "skill", you can be best by just being a nice person. That's the problem of people they think being good is just a matter of skill. You can have social qualities and still be better player than someone with skill, that's what i meant. So best player is a matter of point of view.

[@Suplen]

HollystineGaming no actually you are wrong. Being Best Player means that you are skillful and you have the best game awareness. You can't be the best player just by being a good guy or having a nice personality. Mother Theresa will never be the best csgo player just because she is good. Neither pope Francis will be. This is the base requirement of being the Best Player. The other things just come with it.

[@싸넬동지-7성담배]

SuplenC That's a lake of awareness you have there. An example to you : Remember S1mple, good player ha ? How good it was with Flipside or Hellraisers (i don't remember) being a bad person ? That's why i was specific on the second part, social qualities.

[@Suplen]

HollystineGaming you have a lack of definition right there. You don't have to be rude just because you misunderstood the definition. It happens to everyone.

[@camz3713]

I like the dude, he's genuine and wears his heart on his sleeve. Keep on keeping on dude.

[@rumenhristov1296]

Heartbreaking

[@obi1tap]

he looks so depressed during the interview

[@alexfacey9591]

I love this channel

[@Tramah]

+Alex Facey love u bae

[@alexfacey9591]

Tramah

[@Mineanator1234]

That ending clip BibleThump

[@janoskrahl9282]

is he talking about stewie?

[@thomasburden3037]

sean

[@publicstaticvoid1]

that freak part is so funny now

[@Shaqstar96]

who was talking to freak?

[@TheRealOmniscient]

@@Shaqstar96 shaffer speaking to freak

[@htjohn8202]

seangares is one of my biggest idols in csgo and is my biggest idol when it comes to ingameleading. He seems to be such a good guy who invested so much into the game but saddly never got the big results :/

[@cameter44]

LMAO that was my donation at the beginning of the video!

[@jawnyfn]

I'm your 18000th subscriber!! I dig your channel!

[@Tramah]

+JStaaw thanks!

[@jawnyfn]

youre welcome! keep it up

[@TheHilo623]

I love looking at these old comments...

[@SolidFunderful]

same

[@deprogramm]

hi

[@TheHilo623]

@@deprogramm hey bro

[@Leg8]

i love looking at ur old comment ;)

[@dandy3403]

Sean not rejoining C9 gave me a *Tramah* .

[@iVollux]

4:09 THAT'S INSANE

[@DJayShady]

+iVollux A COACH!

[@luiscirca2002]

A MANAGER

[@ghostofcoolidge245]

2 years later. Made legends at the Boston 2018 major.

[@MLitey]

love the end with shaffe and freakazoid

[@kegynesaunders7828]

Wish to see more of Sean Gares in the future of eSports. A true pioneer.

[@shanongka]

he should coach liquid I think he could help them with their...um.. issues, like viagra, he could be liquid's viagra

[@ValentineC137]

Help them stand up against better teams again

[@pngts.g]

"Click here for a subrise." What the hell is a subrise?

[@xmelseru]

youre videos are such high quality keep it up man great stuff very interesting

[@v9Nm]

+melseru your*, he isn't videos.

[@xmelseru]

+Dany R haHAA

[@daksinho911]

+melseru U are the one that is cringy here, lol.

[@xmelseru]

+Dakota Noris Silva because i typed something wrong in the hurry while talking in my second language? u make no sense. ofcourse i know its you're i just wasnt bothered

[@daksinho911]

melseru are u familiar with Twitch?

[@TheChurchofCacti]

Shroud, Hiko, Skadoodle, Stewie2k, and SGares. Stewie: entry fragger\2nd awper, SGares: IGL, Hiko: Lurk\Support\Clutch Shroud: Support\second entry Skadoodle: Designated awper

[@colewarburton3832]

+lewis best na team

[@MrMrlol3]

-Ska +jdm, then it's best NA team

[@izayabeenhere]

Replace sgares with Brax and make Sgares the COACH!

[@TheChurchofCacti]

BiblicalInferno Ska is a better pistol ifle player than JDM. JDM is more consistent lately sniping. I'd still take Ska for the that team.

[@MayankJairaj]

2019 he is doing great! Am so happy for him, still wish he would've come back in 17

[@WalknTalknStevnHawkn]

words of wisdom

[@giandalmacio3299]

So sorry to hear that from Seangares. But I have a question why is seangares's cs go background is like closer to the edges, or is it stretched? and how can you do that.

[@cbdfactory3]

+Giancarlo Dalmacio he is playing at 4:3 resolution. you can stretch it in your video card settings. for nvidia, open nvidia control panel and try finding it under resolutions or something, and try finding scaling, and scale to fullscreen on GPU. hope this helps

[@giandalmacio3299]

Thx for the info.Cheers!

[@MutenRoscher]

and n0thing still in the team, its a shame

[@charliedangerr]

Sean Gares arguably has the worst facecam in the whole world.

[@ImCovino]

+Shin “immortal sushi” Chipowski It's not that big on stream, the video editor made it bigger

[@bakirev]

I didn't even notice cause this has nothing to do with his gameplay, but yes, it is indeed fucking atrocious.

[@ImCovino]

Jorgensen Penus the editor made it bigger...

[@bakirev]

ImCovino​ In that case good on him. I still think he could cut a bit off the left side but it's fine if it's smaller.

[@zack-xb9po]

Update: he has a really good face cam now

[@Joao606]

sean the magician, one of the best igl

[@peytonleehagens123]

Was he on echo fox when this video was made?

[@levelz1337]

Seangares was the only thing holding C9 up, N0thing and shroud are great players but they cant lead a team, RIP NA DREAM.

[@RoninDays]

+Ludvig Forsberg They were shit when they lost best NA player (Hiko). Only getting absolute jokes like freakazoid after says it all, lol.

[@TheElectriczil]

+nakamine1713 +nakamine1713 nothing was never even close to the second best player on cloud 9 and never had been or will be he's incredibly inconsistent he can have really good games where he does very well but he also falls quite flat a lot what's more freakazoid was a role player he really was not bad for the team and they actually had better results without hiko in the summer before it went to shit freak did his role and he did it okay he wasn't the best entry but he did his job and set up shroud on top of forced people to listen to Sean and that helped the team a lot

[@TheElectriczil]

nakamine1713 aren't you a sorry excuse for a human.

[@clintax2192]

NA dream revived last Eleague Major 2018

[@SNAKExFea]

The face he makes 3:40-3:50 is a face of a man how dident succes hes Dream...

[@pandaknight139]

at 4:45 his eyes were red :'( he almost cried :'( I miss him and old C9

[@Daniel-tr1lx]

"When we lost at CALUGE (Cologne)"-SEANG@RES -___________________-

[@jeruhmee2281]

+Carmel Alpaca he meant cluj napoca...

[@hassanal-jefairi998]

what was moe saying at the end? didnt understand anything

[@oliverbeck6839]

+Hassan AL-Jefairi that was Shaffer not m0e u idiot xD

[@hassanal-jefairi998]

Oliver Beck oh................ speling mistake..

[@kurty7614]

+Hassan AL-Jefairi How can someone mispell "moe" with "Shaffer" lmao

[@hassanal-jefairi998]

Kurty Man just go with it xD, anyways do u know what he said?

[@BigGanin]

+Hassan AL-Jefairi When C9 was doing well, and more prominently when they started to drop off, sean was considered lack luster by fans saying his fragging was sub par and if they were to replace him with a more highlight player, the would be so much better (that clip at the end was before he left the team) and so what Shaffer said ended up being true, they got stewie and the other new guy and now the teams struggling harder than ever because their strats (especially when n0thing was calling) were straight up dog shit.

[@undeadteam]

so why does freak always spits in that cup?

[@abottist]

he has spit tobacco in his mouth. he's a dipper. he is also a spitter which made him quit c9

[@chrishero9694]

C9 now with Sean in it would be unstoppable.

[@alecm6327]

He's not going to get any where with echo fox tho

[@sv8945]

Song in the first clip?

[@beelulcs]

sean had that killer instinct... sadly today he's on mishits

[@twoshu8940]

Idk if that's him but he sounds broken

[@godslilhelper]

I don't think sean will ever go back to c9 and he did exactly what hiko did left and formed his own team

[@vitlCSGO]

No he didn't... He joined Torqued, he didn't "form" them lol

[@godslilhelper]

what i mean by form is have control, not like an independent as in like hiko became the spearhead of the team forming a team with him having a big say

[@vitlCSGO]

test Neither sean nor Hiko have big says in either of their teams. The only affiliation either of them have with their respective organizations is that they play for them. That includes the time before Torqued was picked by EchoFox; at the time the one with the most control in Torqued would've arguably been m0e.

[@godslilhelper]

are u serious??? hiko and sean are top NA players that organization probably gave them sway to pull in talent they saw fit when they made their team and created it to their vision

[@vitlCSGO]

+test An organization gives every player on the team sway on pickups; how skilled they are, how well they work together, the only way to get that information is to have the players influencing the decision because the org itself usually has no idea how the game works. You're also now using words like "probably" and that tells me that you don't know. When you "think" something and don't KNOW it, I can't listen to you as if you're speaking facts.

[@chris-un2nm]

just fuckin imagine if sean was coaching c9 holyyyy fukc

[@vertox5351]

His facecan is too big

[@suryachinnareddy9150]

valy *Purpose fucking idiot.

[@oc9488]

He's like the chris paul of cs:go but Sean left...

[@ModeratSlakt]

Well, it doesn't matter how much you KNOW. If the other team (such as lumniousity and kinguin) is just about 5 times better than your team, you're still going to lose due to aim, game sense and no chokerino.

[@notkenji]

+Robin Annonym They were better than Kinguin, though. Individually and tactically, they genuinely had more skill in their lineup IMO.

[@chrisfps7]

+Robin Annonym You probably didn't watch those pitiful matches against LG and Kinguin then.

[@1styoshi166]

they should have never kicked hiko

[@tankfire20]

man he sounds so depressed.

[@Rainx-of4lg]

wtf is echo fox gonna do? nothing why would you leave in the first place? they are a decent team that can win and pay high.

[@ebolarat]

He sounds like he's high af at 3:50

[@thehive378]

if sean rejoined cloud9, who have to leave? i feel like it would be shroood😭

[@BACATCHER]

Didn't shroud already leave when u made this?

[@lean7298]

What does IGL mean?

[@Oldboyco]

Trig Fegt in game leader.probably

[@DoubleWit]

In game leader/strat caller

[@jones4452]

cool video dude

[@eezus]

Born on the wrong continent imagine if he was in Europe the impact he'll do as an IGL

[@haloreachaor]

Elige/Nitro/Skadoodle/Hiko/Seangares or Shroud

[@greedisbad9890]

Aaaaaaaaannnnddddd now best c9 so far (i think)

[@yos8554]

Is it wrong to love sean? i mean his gut knife urban mask UHHH

[@hellothere6226]

he sounded like he gonna cry ;_; i'm feeling sad cause he really pour his soul into the games but he still lose in the end ;_;

[@zyonictv8561]

2017?

[@abdullahani9671]

Uhh our best Sean gares was so good without him we can lose to any team 16-0 Sean plz come back to c9 :)

[@robertthompson4411]

poor guy I feels for him :(

[@borqee]

if valve unbans swag they should drop slemmy like real quick

[@Senkii4]

Now autimatic. Swag can make them top team

[@xEroarz]

I reckon sleemy is horrible right now. He isn't working as an igl or a rifleman... Watching C9 vs Liquid the other day showed how much Sleemy is not working out for them... I reckon they need to reopen the spot for someone else and give igl back to Jordan cause he was doing better then sleemy.

[@kunalmehta7670]

i felt like it wasn't too bad to pick up stewie, but picking up slemmy put too much inexperience on their team without the solid veterans to back it up

[@mistletoe88]

Freak and Sean in the same team was just a joke. 1 was a complete brain dead point and clicker whereas the other was a mastermind.

[@SebastianB410]

I feel bad for Sgares he's too hard on himself and his team :/

[@fajnted3485]

How the F*ck! No, i can't say it..

[@TommyGun3131]

Sean :(

[@someguyxddd]

+TommyGun3131 Seen*

[@64matthew]

If you do these kinda things for Dota I cant begin to imagine the views you would have

[@smithii1867]

Too bad dota sucks and is only for Asians

[@EclecticMick]

+Smithii That's pretty much every popular moba

[@smithii1867]

+Mick Källbacka yea

[@QSLBROS]

dotas a dying fucking game cs is jst getting bigger

[@skyw9857]

feelsbadman

[@juanme555]

Sean's worst mistake was to not kick n0thing after placing Top4 at the first major, he could've but the results and friendship blinded him. Back then Semphis and HiKo wanted to kick n0thing , Swag was soon to go to iBP and once they got Shroud it would've been irrelevant what anyone else thinks, Shroud didn't join coL/C9 to play with n0thing. The deciding vote (3/5) that time came down to Sean ....and he pressed F2 , im sure that if they would've had an actual serious player that could play under a system they would've palced top8 at Cologne 2015 and tbh....probably Cluj napoca too, They probably would've gotten raped at Columbus 2016 cuz look at that fucking group but at least they would still QUALIFY for majors, i really believe that a core of SG , Autimatic and Stewie could qualify for the major, even if their 4th and 5th were Shroud and Skadoodle.

[@XDR2201]

juanme555 I agree with you Sean, Stewie, Tim and Ska would be solid roster. I don't agree with Shroud though. I would pick Hiko for the last slot.

[@cmen6895]

Just by loosing they make stacks on stacks so honestly I would just buy aimbot and become better...

[@JustSomeGoy]

Throw 9

[@joeyjohnson9952]

shoulda picked up m0e

[@JPacchetti]

+joey johnson please no

[@moseskaebel9893]

+joey johnson ffs

[@kennardmahib]

+joey johnson oh no

[@rdablock]

m0e=good AWPer, godly IGL Kappa

[@kennardmahib]

ArdaBlock shit teammate though, those guys at c9 are great teammates they just don't cooperate as good (not coming from a c9 fan)

[@sacaunfrajoaccount9715]

so he didn't join c9 but he did join echo fox (or whatever)... Did Sean see echo fox as a shittier team to lead. Kind of like seeing c9 as the best players that he didn't want make lose? and he's ok with working with a shittier team?

[@louisedwardnugroho8719]

still your big dans

[@louisedwardnugroho8719]

fans

[@mgjamesfin7011]

just a random EU boy, THE NA SCENE IS FUCKED

[@julianrobinson1695]

poor sean :(

[@huss4659]

i know c9 were ready for kinguin and all, but srsly, kinguin was beast! they 16-0 VP they use to be 1 of the best, he shouldn't be that disappointed that they lost to them...

[@tnzxx8996]

but c9 destory kinguin before that

[@EliteKaninen]

+Hussein Hakem You can't really say they were one of the best based of on one tournament.

[@huss4659]

+Yofie 乁( ◔ ౪◔)ㄏ well, they're definitely much better then all NA teams for sure tho so...

[@EliteKaninen]

+Hussein Hakem Well so are most of the EU teams. And I'm not entirely sure that they're better than liquid.

[@EliteKaninen]

+Hussein Hakem Well so are most of the EU teams. And I'm not entirely sure that they're better than liquid.

[@TheDansterMC]

STEWIE

[@marquesinif]

and now he accepts mediocracy

[@iemandjwzz4614]

I said: nah

[@ahotes.]

I really thought since Sean and Moe where on a pro team, that EchoFox would be good...Sad to say that are absolute trash!

[@Obiyongkenobi]

They are a work in progress. Fnatic wasn't made over night luminosity wasn't either. I believe with more roster changes echo fox could content to be top 4 NA

[@jiminkim4163]

Not enough chemistry. A tean cannot be good without chemistry.

[@flankycameron]

moe iisn't on the team and echo fox will improve in time. they've just brought in a new awper and a 2nd entry in roca so sean will be looking to strat around them.

[@Brrrrrt]

+Brandon Yong Top4 NA is still pretty shit

[@ahotes.]

Brandon Yong They are made of players that aren't that amazing to begin with...if you get a team of players that all get along, and are good individual players, then you have yourself a good team! Seangares is ok, never heard of a2z, ryx is meh, roca is ok and mOE is....mOE!

[@xehP]

you get disheartened at 1 loss? that's not a true competitive mindset, that's a sign of someone that's really talented at the game, but isn't willing to accept defeat, move on, work and try harder. it's actually disheartening to hear this, no one should have a mind like this.

[@hivebeach123]

f***ing c9 , NA players need to step up , like wtf happened to these guys?

[@PureShinigami]

+hivebeach123 Money happened.

[@Regen1225]

+Intex they have big salaries they only one that put some effort on that shit is shroud he keeps playing rank s and fpl everyday,he keep playing tdm but he already knows that he has a pretty good aim but they rest of the team dont do the same

[@SuperBrockMister1]

heheheh

[@meffycodrin1853]

best NA team: Shroud Hiko Sean Eliige Skadoodle

[@XDR2201]

codrin stefan No Shroud please. Get Stewie. I feel Shroud gives 0 fuck about the team. He's great streamer but not professional player.

[@johneagle5315]

+Valencare shroud just needs an igl to use his full potential and stew isn't experienced enough

[@wowisntitanamazinglyamazin9550]

Phobos CSGO yeah with sean, shroud was at least trying now it just feels like he's given up

[@kennygibson1712]

Elige is bad

[@sugandhnair5247]

Agreed!!

[@aydon1276]

so you fail anti strats at cologne and it makes you want to leave, nice

[@TheElectriczil]

Lol no it's more like he told his team exactly what they were doing each and every time and they made mistakes and failed him in terms of people getting burnt out they went to less tourny's than any of the eu teams and they got burnt out shows a lack of dedication to me I would assume that's freak and nothing and maybe ska because shroud was still playing constantly while ska has 20-40 hours in 2 weeks freak just wanted to go to the beach or some shit and Jordan says he's been a pro so long he's kind of sick of it and wants to hang out with friends and do other shit all the time somehow not realizing it's his job most people put more time in their job and still have time for friends etc it sounds more to me like a problem with the players motivation

[@DownforceRecordings]

+Dr. Face i dont think he knows what that word even means :D

[@WheelchairBilly]

+RIP In Peace Seamus He wants you to get tilted and join the dark side.

[@TheElectriczil]

Dr. Face if its understandable not worth my time

[@scrappy3379]

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[@JakeSucky]

1:53 did he actually say "travesty" and not tragedy haha

[@RVSeungwan]

Yup heard travesty as well

[@Urfwick]

+Nikola Bilbiloski stop saying whit