Tramming a Milling Machine in 2 axis | Using a Spindle Square

I Tram my milling machine head in Nod and rotation using a Spindle Square. After machining the Cement mixer yoke journals. That setup you can see in the link below.
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This method is fairly quick using a tramming gauge / spindle square from Boring Research, Inc.. This is a very nice tramming gauge / spindle square because of it's versatility with a width spacing adjustment of the gauges. This is a great unit for any size milling machine. This Spindle Square can be used with Milling Machine's, Drill Presses, CNC Milling Machine's.
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[@drickard67]

I had been meaning to buy or make one of these tools for a long time now. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on this one based on your review and it supports small business...I wasn't disappointed. This thing is top shelf. Thanks for putting a spotlight on it.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

His tool is top quality, and you can't beat the price.

[@drickard67]

@@RRINTHESHOP it's true...and the price was a bonus.

[@RickRose]

Great demonstration of the process. Thanks for sharing.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Thanks you Rick for stopping by.

[@troyam6607]

Cheers Randy! i had trouble with that setup as i never knew you needed to calibrate it on one fixed point. now i understand. thank you

[@RRINTHESHOP]

That is great to hear. Really quite a simple tool to use. I am glad this helped. Thanks Troy.

[@bluehandsvideo]

I'll "second" everything Randy says about the Boring Research gauge! I have one as well. James does a beautiful job making these. Being able to move the indicators is really nice and a big reason to get this unit over the others! :)

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Yep this spindle square works great and you can not beat James price. I like the adjustable width. Thanks Mike for stopping in.

[@houseofbrokendobbsthings5537]

Nice one Randy - I bought one a while back based on Keith Rucker’s review. Works as advertised.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Good deal Dan. Great design. Thanks for stopping in.

[@MaturePatriot]

Looks like you've got your head on straight!! Great job my friend. Always enjoy the videos. See you next time.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Thanks Vernon, all square now.

[@ctpctp]

I always start with a square between the table and the quill. All those indicator rotations when you started that nod adjust are eliminated that way before I even get to the indicators. Just saves some time, is all. Awesome vid, thanks!!!

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Great tip! Thanks

[@Cavemannspace]

Very good Randy. I may have to make one. Well done.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Thanks Caveman. These are real nice and very reasonable. Check them out.

[@RaysGarage]

Nice tool Randy, looks like you got your head all squared again!

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Heck I have been square for along time. Thanks Ray.

[@ScoutCrafter]

So many times we try anything and everything to avoid having to move our heads... =) I am long overdue to check my head position even though I haven't intentionally moved it... Great tutorial Randy, Love Grandpa's gauge rod!

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Yep good to check even if you don't move it. I use my machine alot so once a month is standard for me, quick and easy with a tool like this. Thanks John.

[@CompEdgeX2013]

Head is all squared away again.. nice. Need to check mine soon as well. Cheers, Colin :-)

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Thanks Colin. everyone does.

[@jimbayler4277]

When I say I need to get my head squared away .... My wife says "Yeah. You do need your head examined. Shall I set you up an appointment ?!" (... *#@&%$$ ... norespecti'mtellingyou... &*%^#@... nohelp!!...). THANKS HONEY !! NOT WHAT I MEANT !! Sorry guys .... Couldn't resist !!

[@outsidescrewball]

good lesson...enjoyed

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Thanks Chuck Works great.

[@CraigLYoung]

Good afternoon Randy! I like that tool! Going to need to get me one. Mine's home made.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Thanks Craig, Check them out best price out there, very well made. I am going to give away 2 soon.

[@TedRoza]

Good video of using this Great Spindle Assembly. doesn't matter which way you go, The Gauges won't tell a lie. Therefore consider you set it up correctly and depending on how Meticulous you want to be, you will get a Perfect Table Squareness . Also any other job you want to setup for squareness on the table will always be square with your milling attachment, whether it is just a small flat plate for a job, or even a small cylinder head. Job well done. Keep up the great work.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Thank you Ted. great tool.

[@ChrisB257]

For ever have meant to make a nice tramming rig like yours - ain't happened yet! Tedious process but effective. :)

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Good tool to have. Thanks Chris.

[@erniehenshaw4065]

Nice Unit.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

It sure is. Thanks.

[@reideichner8597]

Well done, Randy! You definitely had the head out of wack after milling your cement mixer yoke.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Sure was a bit out. Good now. Thanks Reid.

[@metalshopwithtroy5755]

Hey Randy great video i was always told by my Dad many years ago never monkey with changing head because never get back to square. After watching your video my fear has been removed. Thank you just need to make that same type of tram for my box. Since in Australia usa shipping is same price as the item your purchasing. Thanks again for removing a demon Sincerely Troy Guyette 😊

[@RRINTHESHOP]

This tool is quite easy to make. No fear help is near. Thank you Try I am glad this helped.

[@shadowdog500]

Here is the version I have on eBay Australia fo AU$146. www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-Tram-Bridgeport-Head-Square-Knee-Mill-Spindle-CNC-Router-milling-endmill-01/254203037956?epid=13031749230&hash=item3b2fae8904:g:W~EAAOxyVLNS6tfr:sc:USPSPriority!08226!US!-1 Here is mine in use so you can see how it works. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXbKqYWqgcSepMk Randy, hope you don’t mind my video link.

[@metalshopwithtroy5755]

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[@ericrichards5862]

Nice presentation Randy

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Thank you Eric. Printer fixed. Color Preference?

[@ericrichards5862]

@@RRINTHESHOP Green Blue or Black

[@ericrichards5862]

One off is fine, I can move it to where I need it.

[@aceroadholder2185]

To save time, set the second indicator to zero by loosing the stem screw and move the whole indicator. Now move the head to the zeros on the scales on the machine head. Bring your indicators down to the table and adjust the head till they read the same and your are done...no need to hunt for "zero". I've worked where the head on a Bridgeport type knee mill might have to be moved several times a day. Once you have your indicators zeroed, put the device where it won't get bumped around till you need it again. Then you won't have to bother resetting the indicators the next time you need to use it. Cheers from NC/USA

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Thank you Aceroadholder. Good Tip , Thanks for sharing it.

[@mikenixon9164]

Good video. I made mine several years ago.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Good deal Mike. Thanks for stopping in. Getting cold there yet?

[@mikenixon9164]

Yes 6 the other day then 8 inches of snow.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

@@mikenixon9164 Keep your wife warm Mike.

[@sirensc3566]

Ok Randy... I am gonna trust you. I just ordered one.👍

[@RRINTHESHOP]

They are good units, and a great price. Thanks SirensC3. Stay Safe.

[@metalworksmachineshop]

Nice, i need to check mine. Its been 6 months probably.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

I check mine about once a month, quick and easy. Thanks Doug.

[@docokd7oco443]

Hey Randy; going to be out in the woods all day so will miss the stream but, will watch later. Too bad you didn't have a universal head on the Bridgy like the one on my Cincy. Tramming that thing is a real PITA! Would love to see some shortcuts on that bad boy...

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Out in the woods is good. Watch it later is good to. Thanks Don.

[@Cavemannspace]

I figured this was coming. See ya tomorrow evening.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Saturday.

[@Cavemannspace]

@@RRINTHESHOP Rodger that.

[@chrisstephens6673]

Now if you had a lathe like Brian you wouldn't have needed to do this, 😀😀😀

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Yes That would of been nice. Thanks Chris.

[@christophercullen1236]

Randy I had trouble knowing when the Premier was with your back to front date! Remember we live upside down.Downunder

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Yeah that is the first time I have used this feature. Thanks for watching Chris.

[@aussielady4]

Christopher Cullen Hi Christopher... I'm in Australia too.. Just hit the bell .. Next to subscribe...🌟 Australia was asleep then.. I was asleep...🌟

[@christophercullen1236]

Randy can we have a metric and imperial calendar next time ! Christopher

[@Preso58]

Randy, I just got mine in the mail today. I had fairly low expectations but it really is nicely made. It came in a nice foam lined case too, plus a sticker! I don't normally have the luxury of buying US made tools but I treated myself for once. I wouldn't have bothered on my old mill but now that I have a Bridgeport..... Did yours come with the little magnet to do the calibration?

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Good deal Mark. James does a great job on these. Yes mine came with a calibration magnet. Thanks.

[@harlech2]

Great video Richard. Can you tell us how you made your way covers?

[@RRINTHESHOP]

They are 1/2" MDF covered Milamine, bordered with 1/2" russian birch Ply. Left overs from cabinet building. Thanks Nick.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Mine is due as well , the tool i made cuts the time down to 5 to 10 minutes . I Will pop it in an upcoming video . Cheers Randy .

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Yep most don't know there is out. Always good to check now and again. Look forward to seeing your square. Thanks Max.

[@ericrichards5862]

I'm two days early!!!

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Early is ok.

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Great job now it is Randy Richard right.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Ready to go Harold. Thanks Harold.

[@stephenwagar2663]

Well I Don't What The Big Deal Is You Tend To Make Every Thing You Do Look Easy , What Comes To Mind Is The Boring Bar You Recently Made Very Tight Slip Fit Perhaps I'm Easily Impressed Na I Don't Think So

[@RRINTHESHOP]

It is easy. I will work at making it difficult next time. The slip fit was done live. It can be done, care must be taken. Thanks Stephen.

[@OB1canblowme]

As a Swedish person I'd like to formally apologise to everyone on behalf of my countrymen for the undersized design of the head tilt and swivel mechanism of Bridgeport machines and all the trouble it has caused through the years😅

[@pierresgarage2687]

Moving the head is always the last resort on the mill... Tramming the head even though isn't the end of the world, over here, it's considered to be a pain in the b__t... 🥵😰😁

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Arn't you at the end of the world? Not that bad at all. Thanks Pierre.

[@brentbarnhart5827]

I'm a newbe here, an engineer that bought a Bridgeport, just for emergency pieces we need to modify or make. I avoided it for the longest time, and have no plan to eliminate the work we send out, but we need it for last minute. DON'T you want to do this on parallel blocks instead of directly on the table? My table is not horrible, and yes I've stoned it... but there are marks in the table. using blocks would more represent or "span" those Pock marks. Am I right? Wrong?

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Yes you are correct, my table is pretty good condition, so I don't have a problem. Most of the time I tram to my vise and not the table since that is what I used most of the time. Thank you for watching.

[@brentbarnhart5827]

@@RRINTHESHOP your table did look exception..... You may have sensed the jealousy..... 😂

[@jasonhull5712]

This is what everyone dreads. It’s not that hard at all. Also use the ram if you haven’t ! You can set the gib and have another axis while machining. I use the ram as I would the X/Y axis. It has a rack and pinion, it’s sliding on machined and hardened ways. Use it ! With my Mill the ram provides a better more accurate cut than the x axis can. Simply because the previous owners didn’t use it. They would move it to a position and lock it down. Then use the table to make all the cuts. The hardest part for me when tramming in my machine is realizing when tight is tight enough but not too tight or too loose… I Don’t want it to move but if I was to make a miscalculation and crash the tool into the workpiece I’d prefer for the head to move slightly vs breaking stuff. 🤷‍♂️… but I don’t want to do that either really.. so how tight is just right?

[@wnebergall]

Randy why don't you come trim my mill for me, I don't have them fancy adjusters and I have to shim my nod

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Bill this is the cheapest on the market, and well made. You can buy it without Indicators and use your own, I think $45. Thanks Bill. I am going to give away 2 soon.

[@wnebergall]

@@RRINTHESHOP I have one from Edge technologies that I use but looking forward to the giveaway nonetheless

[@RRINTHESHOP]

@@wnebergall Those are nice also.

[@therealrobertbirchall]

Sust use a square on the table and a drill blank in a collet in the spindle. Or if you are real anal use a drill blank in the spindle and a mag base with a clock on the table. Rotate the spindle to make sure the drill blank is properly in the collet then clock it or use the square fron several positions either side of the table.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

There are many ways to do this. Thank you.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

But I am afraid... 😁

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Be strong my friend, the force is with you and flow thru you.😀 Thank you Yuchol.

[@davidfe47]

Lyle would have it completed in 3 Min with paper stickies & his cup of coffee! JK Nice job & Demo

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Yep can't beat Lyle, Our You Tube Shop Teacher. But this sure works great. Thanks E'fd.

[@mikeotti4082]

For a number or reasons your system of tramming has short comings.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Well what are they?

[@JoshSmith-mh3xc]

You had me until you said you didn't need a torque wrench.

[@shadowdog500]

Great demo. I bet you could have done this in less than 10 minutes if you weren’t teaching.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Yep, recording then re-recording, yep pretty quick. Thanks Chris. I am going to give away 2 soon.