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[@olivergould5428]

Newage did such an amazing job, giving us a cartoon accurate Starscream with a great alt mode, I don't see why masterpiece models don't take cues in order to make a great Starscream that isn't over-engineered

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Ooooo i wouldnt hate on that idea at all! They really did a wonderful job with their seekrs. Thank you very much for watching this!

[@bumbledouche3323]

They do the overly complicated engineering so they can justify the prices they're asking.

[@BrothaKyle1068]

Just got my DS SS today! I love it so much!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Heck yeah you do good sir! Thank you for watching this man!

[@Anakunus]

Well compared. I, too, like DS-001 more than MP-52. Although, I was surprised when you said that if you like the toon version more you are going to go with the Masterpiece; the main reason I chose Deformation Space version is because it represents the cartoon model more accurately than MP-52 - including the backside. Anyway, I agree with you about the transformation. It is not easy, so the official version undoubtlessly wins on that category. It also has a flight stand, which is another plus, but on all the other aspects Crimson Wings is the winner: better sculpt, better build, better articulation, better colours and better jet mode. So 'tis a clear winner in my opinion.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@lowellmartens6135]

It is crazy how dated MP-11 looks now. I definitely prefer the overall proportions of the DS version. The hardware seems much more consistent, and I love the articulation. I may have to check out a repaint. thanks Matt.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Can't wait to see the SW one. Thank you very much for watching this as always

[@bri888]

Looks like your automatic number 1 favorite figure of the year deluxe!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

LOL oh he def will be a contender! Thank you so much for watching!

[@ArrowFyre]

Awesome review! I'm happy with my MakeToys Starscream but I would get Def Space one of the two, just seems to have captured him so much better and can't argue with that price.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Man thats all that matters if you're happy! :) Thank you so much for watching this man!

[@ArrowFyre]

@@DeluxeBaldwin No worries man, always enjoy your videos

[@unlucky_chozo1445]

Boy am I glad I cancled my MP-52 pre-order a while back for this guy. Just blows the MP out of the water. Still waiting on mine from Fedex of course...Great review.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Hope ya like him when he comes in. Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@jimng5086]

Minds made up, its DS for me up in masterpiece shelf. Doesnt stop at this too, cant wait for Thundercracker and Skywarp.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thank you so much for watching this!

[@JRock424]

I got Crimson Wings and I had the same problem with the front landing gear flap not fastening. You can use pledge floor polish or small dabs of gorilla glue, and let dry before snapping the door back in.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Oh ok. Thanks for the info and watching this 😀

[@jesteringdragons]

This helped a bunch thank you so much, my first ever Transformers figure is going to be Starscream, and I was tied between the Deformation and Eagle-01/MP-52 as the figures! I think I'm going to stick with the EG-01, though. I really like the Deformation Crimson, but it's unfortunately out of my price range. (Where I'm buying the Deformation is $144.99 and the EG-01 is $84.99) I was curious about the differences though, so thank you for this video! I adore the height on the Crimson and how smooth the back is, but I'm fine with sticking with the EG-01. Also, the Decepticon insignia is always a plus along with the extra accessories lol. Might get a Deformation Thundercracker though when I get the money! Sad that MP doesn't have a waist swivel 😔

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Well thank you so much for the kind words and watching this! Glad you liked it. :)

[@matthewbloom3869]

you like it you win, sticking with MP for now myself

[@8474Starscream]

Awesome! All in on Deformation. For the love of Alpha Trion I hope they release TC & SW! Will display in robot mode only and have MakeToys Jets at their feet! Come on man!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Yeah i cant wait to see him in Black n Purple! Thank you so much for watching!

[@ryanmanning6287]

They released thunder cracker and sky warp now I just ordered mine today

[@Prime-qd6nl]

Mp 52 would probably look good going up against the mp carbots, which I always thought to short. While crimson wing matches prime and the bigger bots, in my opinion. Crimson wing is for me.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Yeah he would fit in with some of the older mps like you said. Thank you very much for watching this!

[@Andulvar]

Luckily I rarely ever want my Transformers in their vehicle modes so I don't have to worry about transforming them. Paint scratching only happens because they don't put a finish over their paint job. A thin layer of Pledge can help with that (pledge floor gloss can be used as a good lacquer finish.)

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Yeah ppl who dont are lucky he comes in bot mode. Thanks for the info and watching!

[@billythekidstoyreviewchannel]

Nice comparison!! I went MP-52.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@francowanta6880]

DS for presence, sculpt, price and articulation. MP for build, materials, paint, toon accuracy, transformation and scale.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this! :)

[@thedrifter5531]

personally i believe ds is in scale if you use mp megs for scale starscream is shoulder height starscream is 16ft tall whilst megs is 19 (from the top of starscreams head) if you use mp soundwave then mp starscream is in scale

[@RazyelKayneReviews]

All great figures, good compare. Love when you do those. I prefer the MP-52 from this review, there`s just somthing about it. Great stuff Deluxe! Hail Hasbro!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

You complete me! Thanks!

[@joey159213]

You heard the man! He is the leading authority of all things Starscream! Great review! And great choice on the the versus!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

LOLOL i wouldnt say that but thank you so much for watching this good sir!

[@myusername3689]

The vertical stabilizers for these starscream figures should use ratchet joints to make them less flimsy feeling.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@thedrifter5531]

for me ds crimson just wins its great in both modes the price isn't ridiculous the paint gives it a nice cartoony look its actually in scale with mp megs (all we gotta do is have a soundwave thats the accurate height now) the jet mode looks fantastic and i like how they gave it some realistic detail and the back is just amazing and it has superior articulation (especially with the hands hastak needs to figure out how thumbs work) for me it was a no brainer to get crimson wing (that and i'm not paying nearly $400 when i can pay half that and get what i think looks better) and i also like how it has a more unique transformation of the upper body coming over and down into the legs rather then the legs going up towards the body

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Well there ya go you win! Thank you very much for watching this! :)

[@ryanmanning6287]

If you ever have time look up acoustic soundwave. He is taller than the masterpiece and looks like he literally walked right off the screen. By far my favorite soundwave

[@thedrifter5531]

@@ryanmanning6287 i already have him he's fucking expensive but worth the price

[@ryanmanning6287]

@@thedrifter5531 absolutely I payed a hefty penny for mine but was worth every bit. I like how I can change his look with his accessories

[@ryanmanning6287]

I just have to find a way to get my hands on mp-29+ shockwave

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

MP-52 G1 Starscream and DS-01 G1 Starscream are a toss-up. They are both great figures.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching good sir

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

@@DeluxeBaldwin I look forward for Deformation Space to get to work on their versions of G1 Optimus Prime and G1 Megatron.

[@BingBong67489]

Seems like these guys are trying to move in on Fanstoys' turf. Maximum focus put on looking beastly in both modes.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Hmmmm idk about that but I'm interested in what they have for the future. Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@Rakerong]

I have to say, it feels like a FT figure just based on how sturdy and hefty it is and the tight joints and ratchets. Paint isn't on their level, but it doesn't have that plastic, shiny, cheap look that MP-29 Laserwave had. The matte finish isn't all that bad.

[@007hellz]

Are there any figures that can fit in the cockpit?

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Not that I know of. Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@timothyschmidt7400]

Do the blast effects from mp-52 fit on the DS figures?

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

I dont think so. Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@thirty3255]

I was interested in Crimson Wings until you described the transformation. Never wanting to do it again doesn’t sound good to me.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Yeah its a pain in the ass but im sure it will get easier when you do it more. Thanks for watching Chuck!

[@Rakerong]

I went with DS. The pros outweigh the cons for me. Stability in the legs and feet to ensure proper standing without fear of a pricey figure leaning forward and potentially shelf diving. Diecast hardware and tight ratchets and joints. A paint scheme closer to what I see of him in the animation and as a whole with Transformers media depictions of Starscream. Proper scaling not beholden to the Sunbow chart that doesn't mesh well in reality compared to their animation models. The cleanest back and barely any visible seam lines (apparent in the MP-52 mold on the legs, shins and feet). Adjustable wings and a waist swivel. And of course, being half the cost of the official ($140-$145). I only wish it came with more accessories in the way of alternate faces and maybe blast effects. Don't care much for episode specific items that end up in a parts bin or light up gimmicks and sounds. Looking forward to Thundercracker coming in soon and Skywarp soon after that! LOL'd at the Eminem's "Lose Yourself" lyrics at the end there for MP-52. If nothing else, comparison to that and Michael Jackson's "Smooth Criminal" never get tiring XD. I don't want to slander MP-52 though, I actually really like that mold and it's great looking. It just needed to be 10% bigger, a couple shades lighter in the gray, and better ankles and knees. I'm quite interested to see if the joints on that hold up over time, because right now my MP-36 is becoming more questionable by the day every time I mess with it, and doesn't instill confidence in the official's products for the future.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@genkipinoy]

Despite the a lot of bad feedback for MP-52 i would still go for him until ive found out the fake cockpit. It turned me off completely. I think i’m going with DS now solely because of that fake cockpit of MP52

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thank you very much for watching this!

[@JasonSawyer]

For me, MP wins easily - DS has a huge chin, and the curves and angles on Takara are just perfect. It's the Starscream I always wanted on my shelf. But if taller and cheaper are important, hey, options are good to have. I do like the lighter gray a bit more on the DS, but it's negligible.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Oh yeah cant go wrong with either one! Thank you so much for watching this!

[@chrisugz1532]

just got my Crimson Wing in today!!! so scared of this transformation

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

lol just be careful. it gets easier the more times you do it. Just a pain going to alt mode. Thanks for watching as always good sir!

[@megasorearse7032]

Awesome! Truth be spoken yoo!

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Well thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@jonathanchin3396]

If it had been painted a lighter gray and if Takara QC weren't such a prevalent issue, the MP-52 would've run away with the crown of best MP Starscream, IMO.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this! :)

[@gdjaybee742]

Serious question: Does the Deformation Space DS-01 come in alt/plane mode or bot mode out of the box? I'm really more of an action figures person when it comes to my transformers and don't care to transform them to and from. I like posing them more and really don't have time to transform them.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Alt mode.

[@charvelgtrs]

I own both and Crimson Wings is my personal choice. His height scales perfectly with my MP-36 Megatron and TE-01 Optimus Prime. MP-52 is way too short and I feel the color is too dark as well. I still have no idea what Takara was thinking making MP-52 so darn short.

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

MP-52 fits the Sunbow scale chart better.

[@charvelgtrs]

@@iamtheomnimonkey Well when you watch the actual episodes Starscream's head hits about the bottom chin of Megatron. MP 52's top of the head meets the middle of MP-36's chest.

[@davemoretto7080]

That’s because Megatron is not in Scale with the mid size autobots(like sideswipe). MP 52 scales better with the autobots and Mp-Shockwave.

[@MaVeRiCk77]

MP52 is a much more accurate scale.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Yeah i agree with all that. He does scale great with MP megs. Thank you very much for watching this!

[@dare2727]

the mp looks better to me. I actually like the gray

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Then you win! Yayyy! Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@brianpavlina8638]

I bought both Starscreams bc I needed them in hand to make a decision. I’m gonna end up selling MP-52. Small size really bothers me.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Glad you was able to get both and make a decision. Thank you very much for watching this!

[@Shaun-cf8mz]

Deformation looks a hella lot better great review

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you so much for watching! 😀

[@mysportbuddies]

But… We love a challenge right? Transformation is what keeps us buying these things . Awesome review TF Fan 👍🏼

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@glynlewis5512]

Great comparison. I prefer the look of MP-52. MP Thundercracker is on his way.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@PatriotPrimeReviews]

That always sucks when you hate transforming a Transformer, great Review.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

yeah it does but practices makes it better! Thank you good sir!

[@forrestwright5024]

It feels like my TE-01 very good

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this!

[@johnnela8898]

Yeah why not!!!!!!🙄

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Ok

[@_AlexB_]

Knees weak, arms are heavy, there's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti. 😂😂😂😂😂 yup deluxe, i love mine too, I'm embracing that transformation and tryin to stay positive cuz the bot mode is so perfect.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

LOL there you go! Yeah it will get eaiser the more you do it. Thanks for watching

[@Highlander77]

Have to disagree with the point about the scale of the figures. If you look at the scale charts from the G1 cartoon, or shots from the cartoon of the two characters next to each other, Starscream is supposed to be a LOT shorter than Megatron. A good head shorter, his face should be at about the same level as Megatron's chest. The DS-01 is too tall, MP-52 nailed the scale here.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

And I'll disagree with your statement. Just matters which episode you want to go with. In the 86 movie he's not that much shorter than megs. But whichever one you like then you win. 😀 thank you for watching this

[@Highlander77]

Yeah, there's always room for interpretation when it comes to G1 scale, lol. I personally feel there are MORE examples where the MP-52 scale is shown as being accurate, but it's certainly not worth arguing about given how subjective so much of this stuff is. Good video in any case!

[@Rakerong]

@@Highlander77 Not sure if I can agree on that. I'm binging episodes the past month or so and most of the scenes depict Starscream not only with the color scheme of DS-01, but the scale as well. I've been paying attention to where his head and the top of the shoulder pylons are in relation to Megatron and other tall bots, and they're not like how it's shown in the Sunbow chart or MP-52. I honestly think that chart as a reference was largely ignored. MP-52 needed to be 10% bigger and it'd be more in line height wise as well as proportionately. As it stands, it's fine on its own and with other seekers/smaller bots like the insecticons and Reflector, but too small for Megatron, Soundwave and the Triple Changers.

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

Based on the Sunbow scale chart MP52 is more in scale. Mp52 kills it on accessories. MP52 kills it for transformation. MP52 is more toon. Value is what's important not price. You get a lot more bang for your buck with MP52. My MP52 has great joints. MP52 is better tolerance. MP52 doesn't have paint chips. The waist articulation on Crimson Wing destroys the sculpt way too much (even when not posed) and the MP52 can do the same poses without the waist articulation. If you want a super toon look and you want to recreate the scenes from the toon MP52 is much better.

[@asaphmartinez4225]

That's right SPEAK THE TRUTH BROTHER 👏 👏🤣👍, He looks so Toon accurate its beyond crazy 🤪, the only thing I will say is the asking price is too much imo, I have Mp-52 and to me he is not worth that $275 more like $150 but he is Everything a Masterpiece should look like 😃👍

[@8474Starscream]

Come on now. Most want to defend within collection investment I get that but the eye in the Sky does not lie. I like scale but not a slave to it and at the same time in the G1 cartoon the seekers were close in size to Megs & Prime same with Soundwave & Shockwave......Takara's use of hardware and QC is unacceptable especially with knees and feet with MP-52. Deformation for the win!

[@asaphmartinez4225]

@@8474Starscream oh I'm not 1 to follow that sunbow crap I mean chart 😱🤣, it's whatever scale u like I personally think mp-52 starscream is too small idc what that chart says and ds is too big something in the middle would've been the ideal size 4me, but again beauty is in the 👁 of the beholder 😁✌

[@8474Starscream]

@@asaphmartinez4225 1000%

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! As long as you are happy thats all that matters! Thank you very much for watching this man!

[@michaeldemontis1287]

DS-001....OMG they gave it a ab crunch, waste swivel, and no backpack....How can they do that? Come on Takara!.....5 minutes later. OMG what a horrible transformation, such bad engineering. I wish they can do better. Its simple, if you want the best sculpt and articulation, engineering will need to suffer.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

When did I say any of that? Yeah it's a crappy transformation but overall it's wonderful. Definitely like it more than the mp version. But either one anyone chooses wins as I'm glad I have both. Thank you very much for watching this tho. 😀

[@frankmarzig1972]

Regardless of size or how good deformation space mode looks I do not like the transformation. there is no reason to over engineer a simple (relatively speaking) transformation. so the MP is my choice. both are awesome though.

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! Which ever one makes you happy is all that matters! Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@frankmarzig1972]

@@DeluxeBaldwin my pleasure! BTW I'm the kinda of guy that fiddles a lot and transforming my transformers satisfies that so if they arent fun or intuitive then it's a pass. keep up the great work

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

@@frankmarzig1972 will do and thanks!

[@nemesistj821]

The MP is to dark

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Yeah but it is toon Accurate if you follow that. Thank you as always good sir!

[@reymed1670]

Ds is nice but out of scale

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this 😀

[@mysportbuddies]

MP52 is not scaled properly, too small for a $280 figure 👎🏽

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Thank you very much for watching this

[@MikeD974]

I wanted to like the deformation space 1 so much but that transformation is just insane I think zeta or maketoys are the best myself

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

Awesome! As long as your happy thats all that matters! Thanks for watching this!

[@MikeD974]

@@DeluxeBaldwin always glad to support transformer youtubers

[@forrestwright5024]

Man what is happening

[@DeluxeBaldwin]

What is happening with you?