Transforming a Worship Mix from Good to GREAT feat. James Attaway

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[@samgonza1975]

It would have been cool to be able to hear a before and after of his tweaks. To experience just how much of a difference it made.

[@v_shadow_v5650]

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing

[@bryan0710]

Bro im sayinggg... Too much talking and not even a single sample👎

[@elipto8836]

Exactly! 💯% on the money, sounds like he's tweaking to his likings.

[@graysonpeddie]

Wow. All this talking and no sample of the music. Thank you KZbin for recommending me a useless video. Not wasting my time.

[@JerodM]

I think you didn't watch far enough into the video...there was actual audio played including the before and after of the acoustic adjustments. Additionally, this was for house mix, not livestream mix. What we hear on a video like this would only be representative of the transmitter microphone that picks up the room sounds and the earphones, or speakers with with a viewer would hear.

[@unfinishedworship3173]

I love James’ advice on EQ “Cut narrow, boost wide”.

[@chrisdaniel5994]

Finally two legends together !!! 😎

[@sethworthenmusic]

James and Jake!! Two guys who have influenced my mix and taught me a lot of what I know!! Awesome video!

[@AttawayAudio]

Always glad to be of service Seth!

[@ReubenPoharama]

The high pass on vocals has been a game changer for my mixes after watching your previous video that showed it. Thanks for the great tips!

[@thecapsicumkid4740]

Highpass and lowpass are our best friend ❤

[@Spladoinkal]

Absolutely!

[@davidnampi_]

Yes!! Great to see you two collaborating! So surprised to see this, love the content you both produce!! God Bless always!!

[@TStodd]

New sound guy here, thank you both for this insight! EQ'ing can feel a bit overwhelming sometimes, this gave me so much clarity!

[@AttawayAudio]

If you get bogged down, just remember that most everything in audio just turns it up or turns it down. Glad it was helpful for you!

[@TheSeeking2know]

Powerful lessons and so much to learn.

[@rhylanmorgan9537]

I love the fact that he’s wearing a “Pedals: The Musical” t shirt! 😁

[@johnkasonga6634]

This was so special to watch. Thank you to you both and may God continue to inspire you more.

[@ZachariahConnor]

His comment about how microphones add tons of bass from the proximity affect is so important. Removing low end from vocals will clean the mix up so much. It sounds weird at first in isolation, but in a mix you need space in the low end for the instruments

[@jaywalker88]

Hello from Singapore. Both of you are legends! Thank you for your content. It has improved my church sound by lots!

[@johnrburke]

Absolutely loved this. Thanks gentlemen.

[@HackingHollywood]

So cool to see a crossover of 2 channels I watch!

[@jamesuche4301]

Thanks for this guys. I agree the external feedback is very important. Keep up the good work!

[@juanhyepiz]

I love all the tricks or tips, I will put them in our church asap.!.!.! I will follow you James too. Thxs for your time.

[@josueescobar4659]

James is a good dude. He’s been great to watch.

[@leoberrios9687]

Amazing guys. Thanks for the tips. There is no stopping on learning. No matter how much or less there is always things

[@hedreamt9455]

thanks for this, i have been looking for some methods in order to step up my sound game and this helped me a lot. helped explain some things i knew but couldn’t understand how to fix. may God bless you both!!

[@znaktmbny]

Thanks for sharing. Appreciate that.

[@KyleCastroTheDrummerBoy090613]

Very helpful video!! Thank you so much my dear friend!! 😊🥁🇵🇭

[@MarkECoburn]

James is my favorite worship audio teacher. Thanks for sharing some of your channel's momentum with him and being open to his wisdom.

[@AttawayAudio]

Jake is AWESOME. Loved getting to meet him and his team.

[@jonoville]

Love the Pedal's the musical T Shirt.

[@CCWGTech]

Thank you guys! This was insightful. Keep up the good work!

[@droidfan]

This was a true Masterclass.

[@alfaomega8185]

Woww amazing lesson. Im from indonesia so excited to watching you both. I took a lot your tricks. Thank you so much, God bless you all 🙏

[@nathanthompson3321]

This is a God send

[@tysonkingreymusic5188]

I'm totally guilty of starting to fuss when James was high passing through 150 hz, but he's making an intelligent decision and his reasoning makes sense. Every room is going to sound different which, ultimately, dictates how we make our mix decisions. Thanks for the food for thought!

[@dariousmarshall2838]

Great video!

[@djkrinchtheking]

Finally 😍😍😍😍😍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@AZ-D]

Great stuff, personally hpf on vocal i like around 140 to 160 roll off and and then using the low band to remove some at 200 to 250hz.

[@yardemedia9323]

Cross-over episodes on KZbin are great!

[@MrTrio5]

James is a cool guy!!!

[@manfriendlychurch]

This is a superb video. Wish I could give it a double or triple like.

[@julanim77]

Loving this video ❤️ And yeah i hear you Ross 😅

[@teddy2bear1]

Yep ! Harry Kane lookalike 😂😂😂 And you got it right the first time Football 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽😂

[@alexwood482]

omg when you said Harry Kane I can't unsee it!

[@somecallmetim2580]

5:30 "Please excuse me for using non-Behringer terminology." - I'm dying.😂

[@abifamuyiwa3936]

Def Ray!!!!!

[@fotomada]

Could you add chapters to this video so we can quickly jump to the specific instrument/vocals?

[@techbuuth]

I love how Jake sees the sound ministry as a thing for the Church of God and not his alone. I have seen him team up with other guys and it's a good thing. I personally like James and his videos. Am glad to see you two together. I sent James an email some time. Still waiting for his reply.

[@AttawayAudio]

Hey Isaac! I searched in my inbox but didn't see an email from you. Which email address did you send it to?

[@techbuuth]

@@AttawayAudio , sorry. It was rather a comment I made on one of your videos. But I would like to get in touch with you if you don't mind. Will take my previous comment back.

[@iam-music]

Only just saw James stuff yesterday...reaaaallly good stuff James. Once again reminding us in essence to use ears :-) AND get singers to have great technique (like Eivor...let the musician respect mic tech as part of their instrument and become responsible)...this is so important ;-) Having the mixer manage dynamics is not ideal; this is the craft of the band. Getting the singers to respect by not whispering during sound check is important although some do without realising but others with intent...get what I mean...the responsibility needs to be in growing in professional attitude and actions despite most being volunteers. Just some points; the HP is DEFINITELY better applied less aggressively with an LF down for the actual prox but HP is really just about RT60 low end bleed mic bleed issues as far as I have found in live music We do need to take in account context...if you have a minimal band setup, a 24db shave of the bottoms of a bass/baritone male will destroy it (lower fundamentals start at 80hz). For really moving forward in various situations we need use great reference tracks and play them in the venue...eg for difficult male vox as just described I use Jack Johnson "Sleeping through the static"...this is one one of the best ways to become confident in choices and top end works like this are super solid in getting amazing live mixes; no bottom end HP hacks and it sounds amazing and full Would be great to tut/highlight using sidechain for compression for context...this is the REAL game changer for sub/bass and voice, acoustic guitar and also takes complete care of solo space A good thing to use is a note/freq/time reference sheet eg 20ms attack (depending on model constants/release etc) is pretty much G1. This is from a spreadsheet I use where you can see, the 20ms is a whole period of approx 50hz, as it descends lower it will progressively reduce the openness of the notes below it, so the sub will allow 1 full 'pump'/period of the bass and the kick is similar but this is why sidechaining is the next step in getting a punchy and uncluttered foundation Note/Oct Note Num Freq Frequency ms G1 31 49 48.999 20.41 Measuring the nodes in the room will let you know what you are really trying to control in the lows so tightening may be directed more towards eg 40hz etc What this tells us also, is that in the low end eg 200 - 400 slices removed for the keys is really going to create bumps and is where broad cut is actual more important because you are moving the whole range of left hand playing mud basically over 1 octave where its more like 2 for most keys players...single frequencies might just create more issues and on top of this, compromises have to be made based on key and actual instrument resonance as James was mentioning. BTW if you are still getting plosives on a live mic...its time to change to something that is properly engineered in regards to pop protection. Great presentation!!! Really good

[@thelawing]

The Harry Kane thing…. Yes. All day. 🤣🤣

[@joshuataylor2908]

That Ray Romano and Harry Kane bit got me 😂

[@blessedson69]

Hey Jake, great videos. The light in the background what light is that?

[@ZachariahConnor]

Man’s got a good shirt on

[@AttawayAudio]

Gotta rep the weirdest gig I've ever done

[@jaybearjewkrusel]

Holy crap I looked up Harry Kane and Jake looks just like him 🤣 that’s awesome lol

[@B0c4j]

With the more aggressive compression on vocals, I’d be interested to know how that effects the vocalists on ears mix? Or would you run them pre-dynamics so that they aren’t effected?

[@AttawayAudio]

Their setup has vocals post-compression, but I typically prefer vocals run to monitors pre-compression for just this reason.

[@jewagr007]

Should VERY RARELY run IEMs post EQ. It will effect your vocals in a negative manner as they will try to compensate for Gate and or Compression.

[@UltraSamurai]

Hey Jake. You might have to do a re-upload on this vid. I can't say for sure, but I think the Left and Right channels are out of phase somehow. Getting a weird sensation when hearing you guys speak or when the music is going. Otherwise great vid and AWESOME crossover. First Linus with Mehdi and now this!

[@shankarjogdand6239]

sir make video of analog sound.

[@Sanre]

Can you add chapters to this video?

[@timteoprod]

Does anybody think that the backlight is a little too bright?

[@nathanvagle4323]

How are you playing your mix back through your WING in all channels post service?

[@landowatchin]

SD card (winglive)

[@danielfmyers]

Which way did he go?

[@nathanchristopherson3038]

shout out to pedals the musical :-D

[@zoltanbereczki8067]

where is the BEFORE / AFTER part in the video?

[@C0ND1E]

What electric drum module are you guys using?

[@marksmith9089]

Hey Jake… do you think there is any way we could get screen shots of the finished EQ for each instrument/vocal? I know it’s not one size fits all (I mean, we meet in a sports hall, so it’s like mixing in a bathroom!!), but I feel like these could be good starting point for each channel.

[@AttawayAudio]

I've got a Live Mixing Field Guide with all that in a book coming out soon

[@marksmith9089]

@@AttawayAudio That sounds great, I will have to watch out for that!! Any quick tips/fixes for mixing a full band in a very echoey room (sports hall/gym)?

[@lakewoodone]

@@marksmith9089 no stage volume, including drums in complete iso box (or electronics), delay if necessary on vocals but no reverb.....and a great PA flown to hit people and not walls. Essentially with all this it’s still damage control. If you own the room- as many 4” fiberglass panels as you can afford

[@emoesix2618]

How can my church hire you to come fix our sound

[@GregVasquez777]

What would be a good way to take a home recording and make it sound like a live worship sound, as if it's coming from a PA and some kind of realistic, natural, large room sound without sounding like standard reverb?

[@captain_skipper295]

Ngl, I question the eqs of the lav mics they use. James mic I was hearing an upper mid frequency that was kind of distracting to me. Sometimes the mixes and eqing sounds great but sometimes they don't. I guess I am just really critical lol

[@emmanuelyambayamba8513]

I LIKE IT . PLIZ WHATS THE NAME OF OF THE MIXING CONSOLE?

[@robwatch]

how were you able to eq certain parts of the drum and not the drum as a whole?

[@AttawayAudio]

The e-drum module has multiple outputs, one for each drum/cymbal set.

[@blessedson69]

Ray Romano for sure😂😂😂

[@afrikanking4022]

Before and after

[@winmusique9309]

Hi how can I keep the volume at 80-88 db? How to limit the volume? Thanks

[@sosa4440]

At 20:38, how were you able to play the recording and mix the recording live like that?

[@pelumischannel]

OMG!!!! He does look a bit like Harry Kane

[@ianyboo]

Love the technical information but I couldn't help but smile as I kept thinking about what Jesus would do if he saw tens of thousands of dollars of audio/vis equipment in a modern church. "Is this a SMOKE machine...? Oh my Me people we've been though this, help the poor, sell your stuff, it's not complicated!"

[@DarrenLeBlancx]

or he might say pool all your precious metals and make a serpent statue to help people worship...

[@morgansprouse2562]

24:00 we’re kidding with this example track, right?

[@samgonza1975]

Missing link in description for his KZbin channel….. 😬😬😬

[@AttawayAudio]

search attaway audio 😉

[@samgonza1975]

Lol. Great job on the video. Gonna start watching your content now too. 👍

[@GayorgVonTrapp]

Would this work with non-worship stuff?

[@AttawayAudio]

Yup, but adjust things to the style.

[@ailo14]

Yes, Harry Kane, that's it! Been thinking about who he reminds me of. It's Harry Kane

[@bendobbersteinmusic]

Luke Wilson?

[@dj2fly1000]

Lol i see it now. harry kane 😂 great video

[@SiQuemaCuhh]

The Harry Ross show

[@brianclemens2707]

12 or 24 db at 250 Hz makes the male vocal sound very thin! I would go for a better vocal performance with a better microphone. RE 20 or SM 7 would my go too for reducing proxmity effect. 40 years for broadcast voice work is my background for great sounding voice.

[@jsoul1978]

Does this transfer the same from the Live to the stream? Or would the stream sound too thin with the low cut on the vocals?

[@jsoul1978]

I ask this if you’re using one mixer for both the Live and Stream mix…

[@Ian-wd4vl]

@@jsoul1978 I am using only one mixer for live and streaming. If your set up for your stream is coming from aux output, then all the eq you applied to your vocals will transfer. It actually help. It does not sound too thin, but you need to add reverb to vocals for stream to make it sound natural.

[@cdannyf]

HARRY KANEEEE

[@davidmilling5985]

Jake: High pass vocals around 250Hz Everyone: 😡 🤮 👎 Attaway: High pass vocals around 250Hz Everyone: 😃 🥳 🤯

[@AttawayAudio]

lololololol

[@chrizzle30]

That's not exactly what he was saying. As opposed to what Jake was saying. Of course Jake would bring someone in to defend him. Also, go back and watch the original video. Jake was suggesting using a hpf on vocals all the way up to 500hz. That's lazy and terrible advice.

[@jimmymugalu9523]

Talk about it...You resemble Harry Kane...wow

[@ElijahBarrientos]

Kane is decent, ain’t no Salah tho ;) #Liverpoolftw

[@leckel1996]

Audio examples have the left or right channel’s polarity flipped. Impossible to tell what he’s doing with such disorienting audio.

[@ricardo.i.i.i]

Hahaha he does look like Harry cane

[@chrizzle30]

I'm glad Jake finally brought someone in who knows what they are talking about. Having said that though, I wish someone on this channel would say that not all vocalists will have/need the same amount of EQ. I actually have a vocalist who has a very crisp high end and NEEDs what you are telling me to cut. I get this is a starting point, but it shouldn't be a hard and fast rule.

[@charlesryan8476]

Aaron Paul :)

[@matthewallen6183]

So many little changes... but none of it is relevant at all without being able to HEAR the difference those changes make... as you make them. It's going to be completely different for every source/band out there. I think that if you do this again, it would be much more useful to run some recorded rehearsal or something through the system so the changes have context! ...IMHO of course ;)

[@AttawayAudio]

True, this was a quick overview. Here are some playlists where I do more in-depth for each instrument/vocals with examples. kzbin.info/aero/PLR7hxbYNsHgyhtm-psESzHcOeaIBCrqts kzbin.info/aero/PLR7hxbYNsHgyPel9lOZvUuRX_e1NgMpSd

[@elijahmoetsi7871]

HARRY KANE 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@301daniel]

Harry Kane 💀😂

[@ismaelrodriguez9372]

Listening and doing some work, when the second guy started talking at first thought was Barack Obama

[@bryan0710]

Just for yalls future videos with all respect Can yall please play a before and after sample of every instrument. Too much talking and not enough playing with samples sounds etc. We are in 2021 not in 2010 anymore.

[@AttawayAudio]

This was a quick overview, but here are a couple playlists with more details and examples on each instrument kzbin.info/aero/PLR7hxbYNsHgyPel9lOZvUuRX_e1NgMpSd kzbin.info/aero/PLR7hxbYNsHgyhtm-psESzHcOeaIBCrqts

[@joshc5401]

he looks nothing like harry kayne

[@perrypelican9476]

Does god insist that we worship him? Did god create the universe to have creatures who would worship him? I may never understand all that. So many people just do it. Why? I live my life to have fun and be good to others. The worship part doesn't make sense to me. I imagine being at the gates after death and being judged. What will count the most? The number of times that I attended church/synagogue/ or other house of worship, or how good I was to others? I think church attendance will not count at all because it is only a hypocritical way to get points. Sound funny? Well the whole religion thing is funny.

[@sangkong9738]

Everyone worships someone or something. The whole church and worship thing is straight out of the bible. It's a good book. Check it out.

[@allanmck]

Being good doesn't make a difference either. It's not being good that gets you into heaven at all. On your own even your good deeds are counted as tainted rubbish. In fact, the Bible doesn't say the payment for being bad is to be good. That's a man made idea. It simply says if you do bad it costs death. The is the whole point of christianity - that we can't do anything at all to save ourselves. Once we die in sin we pay for it eternally in that death. So then... how? A death was actually paid, by somebody who actually didn't deserve it. On our behalf. God himself in the second person, Jesus, as he died on the cross offering that payment to absolutely anybody who would accept it by belief for their own payment. All that is required is for us to believe and accept that it was for us personally. Everything else is a response to that. All the good works you talk about, the doing good things to others, the not doing bad anymore... those are simply the response to already being counted guiltless. A response of thanks and desire to obey God. None of that response earns us anything towards being counted guiltless, by payment of the death. It isn't paid by us at all and never could have been. And that brings us back to worship. Worship is regularly mentioned in the Bible as a response of thankfulness to God. Both what he deserves to receive and also what we desire to give.

[@jamesoncass4867]

Excellent video but the body language from the dude on the right is just terrible. James is giving him great information and he looks like he’s dying to get home for lunch.

[@Churchfront]

😂 to be honest I was. We filmed on a Sunday afternoon

[@tauzN]

Close to useless without examples

[@morgansprouse2562]

This is an awful video. Basically no audio examples and they ones that are there are useless.