Transition CPVC Pipe To Copper Pipe

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@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
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@LordStanley94
@LordStanley94 4 жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate your video. Today, I bought CPVC, then began reading more about it. ( I know backassward). Returning it tomorrow and doing copper. Basement is entirely open. Currently, copper pipes are in, but are corroding. Original copper from 1959. Question: is it necessary/recommended to insulate the copper from outside with those tubes? Sorry, the name of the tubes slip my mind.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 4 жыл бұрын
Yes they have the foam wrap around insulation that you could use on your copper pipes, that's assuming that you are in a very cold environment in the winter time, here in the south is not really necessary unless you're talking about the spicket near the garage that will usually freeze here in the winter... and if you do that it would only be needed on exterior pipe, the interior has ambient temperature that should never need insulation
@Losing4Life
@Losing4Life 6 жыл бұрын
By the way, I work in a plumbing supply store and there are very few plumbers now that use anything but pex in residential construction. None use CPVC around here and copper is only used in a few places in a home such as around a shower or tub. If you were to plumb entire houses with copper you would put yourself out of work because of the cost of the copper. You would never be able to compete with your competition price wise.
@hotbam37
@hotbam37 5 жыл бұрын
Pex is da way
@biteof8702
@biteof8702 5 жыл бұрын
My family and I been plumbers for 40 years you actually hit the nail on the head .PCV is a good material for minor Plumbing only especially that you could reach and get to. not good for inside walls thanks u
@plumber1227
@plumber1227 5 жыл бұрын
Your customers my live in a trailer park where as mine live in multi million dollar estates. Our plumbers are skilled in the metals trades.
@a.fritzbecker8986
@a.fritzbecker8986 4 жыл бұрын
That's nonsense, that may be true with developers but with custom work it isn't, developers don't care if the house falls apart in ten years. Same tired argument for using any cut rate material, if people are willing to pay extra for something as superficial as a view why wouldn't they pay more for a better built house? NIbco had to settle out of court because their PEX would develop pinhole leaks. Zurn was sued because their brass fittings for PEX would corrode and leak. Honestly it's like Groundhog day, does anyone remember polybutylene pipe? Same assembly system as PEX, just a different type of plastic, when it got old the barbed fittings would sometimes leak, if the bands were crimped wrong it would split, like a year later. The joke's on the poor home owners if the insurance companies decide to blacklist PEX like they do with galvanized pipe, and polybutylene
@Darisiabgal7573
@Darisiabgal7573 3 жыл бұрын
Plumbers like pex for one major reason, the apprentice need know nothing about pipe fitting. I’ve heard many stories about how great pex is. I watched, as a site manager, an installation today, after it was done the pex sprang leaks at 4 joints. This is a professional plumbing outfit. chlorine resistance in New Pex plastics are not rated as CPVC is, the joints do not have near the track record. Pex is the new fad on the block. CPVC is rated for 70 years when installed properly, Pex is rated for 45. Some of the Pex fittings are rated for less...... don’t be fooled by hype. The other thing about that any good general contractor knows is that wiring and piping is centered in the wall, which rigid piping does Pex wanders in the wall cavity making it more likely to take damage from home owners or remodeling contractors. In my area if a contractor can f something your pretty much guaranteed that they will. strike plates are only useful on the stud, they have no effect in the wall cavity.
@TonyWadkins
@TonyWadkins 6 жыл бұрын
I agree about CPVC ! I am very scared of connecting to old cpvc because it becomes brittle with age and any movement can potentially cause a flood. I still worry about every house where I have had to do that. I have seen extremely brittle connections at water heaters because of the higher temps. Because I am a small remodeler that does lots of bathrooms I usually always use copper and occasionally PEX. Most PEX failures in the past have been rectified. After nearly 50 years of use starting in Europe it is now considered a safe and cost effective system. I prefer the more expensive Uponor system.
@mikegregeris4069
@mikegregeris4069 6 жыл бұрын
I moved into 40 year old house 6 years ago. I had 3 pin-hole leaks in copper in first year. I did research on CPVC. It is the most chemically stable product. Do not allow ammonia (in cleaning products) to touch it. Keep it out of sunlight (or any UV light). My brother is a plumber. told me to hand saw it. Tools that cut it cause all kinds of weak points. Cpvc comes in same sizes as copper pipe. I re-plumbed entire house in weekend for 200 dollars. Bear in mind, i am on a well, so i do not have chlorine in water. Also note: cpvc and pvc have been used in europe for over 50 years. I kept all left over pipe, Every 5 years i plan to take a left over piece of pipe out and try to break it. Last year( 5 year mark) i tried to break a 3 ft piece by bending it. Even stepped on mid point to break it in halve. Nope, after about 15 minutes and many bends back and forth it broke. i will do this every 5 years. Once i can easily break it, or it is too brittle, I will re-plumb whole hose again, in one weekend for 200 dollars again. My well is acidic, (ph of 5-6) all copper removed was super shinny inside and parts were paper thin, after 40 years....M rated swiss cheese.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
I suppose we all have our own experiences...I've RARELY run into issues ( here ) with copper, but I always see CPVC break and be VERY brittle...If someone GAVE me a truck load of CPVC I'd sell it on CraigsList or burn it.
@mikegregeris4069
@mikegregeris4069 6 жыл бұрын
Trust me, I did not want to use plastic, but my options were limited. My brother warned me, it will become brittle, (he thinks 30 years), hence my 5 year test method.. However, given my well, he thought copper might only last 30 years too. Pex around here only has the fittings with copper in them, so same problem as copper, just less mass so issues will most likely accelerate on pex fittings. All things taken into consideration, i decided to save money on parts and labor...btw, i have had two leaks since install, both on brass fittings for well tank, last copper/brass on my supply lines and only thing in my house installed by professional plumber. lol!
@Ringele5574
@Ringele5574 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank you for your videos. I recently started a shower remodel for my mother-in-law. If I wasn't such a research freak, and your informative videos, I would have had to deal with some major problems from my installer.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@jayc4715
@jayc4715 6 жыл бұрын
God damn that lil vanity sink has hurricane pressure! Wtf is in there a fire hose???
@kheflw
@kheflw 6 жыл бұрын
I've been following your work for a while. Remodeling my bathroom. Following directions in many of your posts. You do have strong opinions. As just a DIY homeowner, I love both cpvc and sharkbites. Yes I know how to sweat pipe, worked as a welder for many years. Money is the only reason I would stay away from Sharks. I would use Pex, but the startup cost I think is high for the tools needed. Today I will be adding a shark tee with a valve and then transition to cpvc. Live your posts, but I think this is mostly opinion. Thanks
@hotbam37
@hotbam37 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, I worked for a huge new construction plumbing company. They use sharkbite shutoffs for every dishwasher supply line. I have never had one fail and have used hundreds over the years. You just have to be sure the pipes are clean and not at any kind of angle when you hook them up.
@357-e2r
@357-e2r 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a plumber and constantly replacing leaking sharkbites.
@jimbrauer1855
@jimbrauer1855 6 жыл бұрын
that flood video never gets old
@zlee415
@zlee415 3 жыл бұрын
Forreal lol, hot water smh shut down the water heater
@davem16
@davem16 3 жыл бұрын
First time seeing this video. Holy sh!t that is so funny.
@akshunwill
@akshunwill 3 жыл бұрын
That gave me anxiety.
@davidjones-vx9ju
@davidjones-vx9ju Ай бұрын
yes it does .... normal people shut the water off
@REALBADMANSAMBO
@REALBADMANSAMBO 6 жыл бұрын
Pex all the way. It's has been ten years now since I plumb my own house with Pex 5,000 Sq feet, 4 bathroom, laundry with sink, kitchen, dishwasher etc. All home run from manifold. I wouldn't do any other way. Not one issue since the installation and I know it will be fine for many more years to come. I will not live another hundred years to see if it holds up but, from what I can see today, it will 😆😆😆. #PEX IS GREAT! 😆😆👍👍👍
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
Among some other issues, I've heard of rats chewing through PEX...a rat can't chew into copper...I'm just saying.
@REALBADMANSAMBO
@REALBADMANSAMBO 6 жыл бұрын
StarrTile never heard of that one before, but I guess it could happen. So I better keep the rat's out.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
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@REALBADMANSAMBO
@REALBADMANSAMBO 6 жыл бұрын
StarrTile Thanks, that's eye opening for sure.
@JTB128650
@JTB128650 4 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile freaking rat lol
@hotbam37
@hotbam37 5 жыл бұрын
I have used countless sharkbites over the years. Have never had one fail. I think if a sharkbite fails it is most likely the installer's fault. Make sure the pipes are completely straight (no slight angle where it connects) and clean. I use a sharpie to mark on the pipe how deep it needs to go before installing to be sure it's on all the way. When connecting to copper always hit the pipe with sand cloth too.
@blackiechong4344
@blackiechong4344 4 жыл бұрын
since cpvc came out never had an issue with it. CPVC is made for hot water and I have it in my house and never had an issue. For a home owner who can not afford a very high price plumber it is very good. Most haters of cpvc are the plumbers themselves
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 4 жыл бұрын
Haters of CPVC are all the people that it has cracked on as I showed in the video, It's not a matter of if it's a matter of when...it's complete garbage
@Maven401
@Maven401 8 ай бұрын
I work for a Hospitality Management company in Florida. I am definitely a CPVC hater. They are brittle. Not fun when opening and closing isolation valves. Especially larger line sizes. Scary! CPVC has more of a chance to burst...
@btchhopperou812
@btchhopperou812 5 ай бұрын
We have this crap all throughout our mobile home(doublewide trailer, tornado bait, etc.) we just bought... it's a potential nightmare in waiting, I know, but I haven't come to a viable solution yet aside from selling it and going another route... thanks for the confirmation of the upcoming loss of my sanity LOL
@danabennett7795
@danabennett7795 5 жыл бұрын
Pex has been out for at 50 years it’s been used on in floor radiant heat for a long time safe to put in concrete slab with a jacket on it just like you do with copper . One thing you don’t have to worry about is electrolysis like some other guys were saying about your galvanized strap on your copper pipe Pex has changed the plumbing world until they tried introducing plastic fittings for it. They got in trouble with them and ended up going back to brass it’s really a great product for cold environments will freeze but want bust
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 5 жыл бұрын
The straps were only temporary for purposes of showing the video. I guess I'm old school because I still do not like crimp connections on anything having to do with supply line... also I have seen videos of rats that have eaten through PEX, can't do that with copper
@kraven4444
@kraven4444 2 жыл бұрын
I have been on sites where shit happens. It's always good to have some sort of flexible long pipe around. Kinda like a vacuum hose. You can put it over the spray leak as best as possible and lead the other end into the toilet or tub next to you. Or even start filling buckets.
@jasonmushersee
@jasonmushersee 6 жыл бұрын
twice i had used teflon tape on the bathtub faucet connection to 1/2 copper and both times the tape split the faucet fittings causing 2 floods not to mention that faucet was $100 both times. now i only use pipe dope. also i heard the white colored pex is not supposed to be located next to fluorescent light because it has no uv protection. had a plumber here years ago he installed that awful grey polybutylene crap that broke over & over to.
@dgraf8076
@dgraf8076 6 жыл бұрын
How did the Teflon Tape " split the faucet fittings " the tape couldn't cause that issue. However overtightening could.
@rubengoya8154
@rubengoya8154 2 жыл бұрын
Omg! Holy smokes!! That's a contractor and homeowners worst nightmare, the music to LMFAO 😂😆
@darrenhoffman3289
@darrenhoffman3289 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I just found out the hard way how brittle cpvc is. I'm new to anything plumbing rated. A day ago I didn't know what cpvc was or anything else but I'm not paying $550 for a single pipe repair. As they say, it's not rocket science, but you better know a thing or two at least. I'll probably just be gluing cpvc to cpvc tomorrow because I need to get my water running again asap but I'm definitely going to be looking to transition to copper in the future.
@victorvasquez8781
@victorvasquez8781 4 жыл бұрын
You knew the right way to do it and still you left that CPVC on there. that's something else. hehe.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 4 жыл бұрын
I wasn't asked nor was I paid to replace all of it...so yeah
@ormonddude
@ormonddude 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah always turn off the water main before you do anything because of course this is going to happen 2:42
@Questchaun
@Questchaun 6 жыл бұрын
That video happened because the slum Lord didn't want to spend 125 to turn off the entire apartment complex. Individual units did not have shit offs.
@cryangallegos
@cryangallegos 6 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I had seen that these sealant tip before. I used Teflon tape on a similar transition and had to use a 14" wrench to get enough torque to make the connection truly water tight! I'm tempted to open up the other side of the wall to do it the best way.
@hotbam37
@hotbam37 5 жыл бұрын
I find that using too much tape is bad too. The fitting becomes too hard to turn leading to half screwed fittings, then they leak. I hardly ever put more than five wraps around any fitting and then I screw it all the way. I watch people wrap it ten times and then get half as far tightening it. Then they hate the tape unfairly lol.
@TonyWadkins
@TonyWadkins 6 жыл бұрын
Concerning PTFE thread sealant tape (aka Teflon tape). Never use it on plastic pvc or cpvc threads because it exerts a lot of unnecessary force on the plastic fitting especially a plastic female thread because it can cause it to expand and split . Copper is more ductile and can handle the stress. PTFE tape comes in varying thicknesses. Even with the cheapest thinnest stuff you only need 4 or 5 wraps.
@mgabrielle2343
@mgabrielle2343 3 жыл бұрын
true, I had a scenario where water started to leak, thereby requiring a few more wraps of PTFE tape, but this caused the plastic fitting to crack , so to avoid it cracking any more I used a jubilee clip as used in cars on various hoses, to stop any fitting from splitting, this even allowed me to use the split fitting without waiting for a new one to be put on set in PVC cement, as that requires time to cure, It has been like 10 years now it has not leaked or cracked any further, as Jubilee clip is doing its job well.
@macknumber9
@macknumber9 3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough video...I liked it
@SixTwoHemi
@SixTwoHemi 2 жыл бұрын
I’m with you CPVC is trash and fails commonly not to mention the chemicals compound it may leach into the water. Copper is the best solution for water lines for longevity.
@jeffm2787
@jeffm2787 4 жыл бұрын
CPVC is great for one thing, the T&P valve overflow pipe. Telfon with dope over top, works great. Better then either or.
@takismantas1159
@takismantas1159 5 ай бұрын
I agree with your comments that copper is most trustful then CPVC but we all have to live with CPVC as it has been installed in many houses and treat it accordingly to avoid disasters. By the way in the flood video this "guy" needs to be fired. There is always a mains shut-off. USE IT.
@yoski203
@yoski203 6 жыл бұрын
Why would you have feet of cpvc!!!??? Between copper, how hard would it have been to just finish with copper. ... unless you said and i missed it....lol
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
HUGE house....all the lines in the house were cpvc, including a 20 foot run in the floor. I replaced with copper where I needed to, that had to do with my job. I didn't contract to re-plumb entire house.
@KingdomeBleachers
@KingdomeBleachers 5 жыл бұрын
Have yet to have any issues with cpvc in my house, I love the stuff, but personally prefer copper. I've used a shark bite as well, no leaks in 8 years. I am however doing transitions from cpvc to copper in my bathroom rebuild. Thanks for the video.
@he-got-a-new-mommy
@he-got-a-new-mommy 3 жыл бұрын
cpvc is a flood waiting to happen
@Darisiabgal7573
@Darisiabgal7573 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen multiple copper failures shortly after new builds or remodels. Copper pipes will take nailer hit and not leak for up to a year, then start leaking long after the finish carpenter and plumber are long gone. Copper pipes are the most prone to bursting during a freeze, particularly because its a great conductor of heat. They are also susceptible to pitting if fluid pH and Ca2+ concentration is not maintained. I like copper for some applications, but it is not a universally useful pipe as author seems to suggest. In addition copper metal is reducing and in dead end pipes such as safety showers and sprinkler systems it promotes the growth of anaerobic bacteria and hydrogen sulfide gas. For this reason unbaffled hammer arrestors are no longer allowed. CPVC is not susceptible to chlorine damage like Pex, does not undergo acid pitting, it is bacteria resistant. it has the drawback of being brittle when used outside or in unventilated attics (temp >160F). It should be wrapped always with approved insulator to prevent chemical contact. During drought rodents have been known to gnaw PVC and cPVC to get water. I have seen cPVC substantially abused in unventilated attic spaces and still not break. Don’t be fooled by opinion or propoganda . . . . Copper has well known pitfalls. There are a couple of videos by Matt Risinger about the freeze and Nailer susceptibility of copper. It’s not that copper succumbs to being nailed, its that it succumbs in a delayed manner once the trades have gone and are no longer accountable for their work.
@wiltech2224
@wiltech2224 5 жыл бұрын
Sharkbite is a junk Australian design with heavy marketing pushing it for lazy plumbing service. The rubber O-ring that seals the sharkbite will dry out after 15-20 years and total caos will seattle in. Anyone with mechanical knowledge can understand what I am talking about. Today things are being developed to speed things up, while quality and life span are being ignored. Why? Do not know, maybe to keep service/repair business going, or maybe people that own a 15 years old home will dump it and buy new one affraid of all current issues. Our homes nowadays are cheaply built, while prices keep going up.
@ube2slow
@ube2slow 3 жыл бұрын
Lol.... guy under bathroom sink, OMG! Umm, plumbing 101, shut off the water prior to working on it...lol.
@mebepeeblee
@mebepeeblee 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my, that clip of that plumbers nightmare should go viral lmao.
@hotbam37
@hotbam37 5 жыл бұрын
It was almost viral, its older video but I have come across it a few times
@he-got-a-new-mommy
@he-got-a-new-mommy 3 жыл бұрын
i doubt he was a plumber, prob just a handy man
@rpnp2
@rpnp2 6 жыл бұрын
Why the dislike for PEX? fairly long history in Europe
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 6 жыл бұрын
Most likely they cannot get Copper at a good price.
@jeffm2787
@jeffm2787 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with PEX so long as you use good quality fittings. Most of the PEX problems are related to the fittings.
@devilmonkey
@devilmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
I currently have copper pipes slowing leaking from corrosion
@TRADERnel
@TRADERnel 5 жыл бұрын
You must live in Florida that's kind of the thing here all new homes here are basically made with CPVC I am switching to PEX though on all my jobs
@NETWizzJbirk
@NETWizzJbirk 4 жыл бұрын
Did you fix them? Copper is incredibly easy to fix. Turn it off, get a jet coupling to let teh steam out, cut out the leaking area, get copper L and the right fittings, clean, flux, solder, and you are good for 30 more years until your next leak most likely.
@rustyshakleford5230
@rustyshakleford5230 3 жыл бұрын
I don't touch CPVC valves. The only time my hands touch CPVC is when I rip it out. I got a call years ago for a broken pipe and what had happened was a cat knocked a bottle of shampoo off a shelf onto an exposed CPVC water line feeding a vanity and it cracked the line. Caused $20k in water damage.
@Gixer750pilot
@Gixer750pilot 4 жыл бұрын
At least it was warm water . That pressure is in credible
@Peanutbutterjelly00
@Peanutbutterjelly00 4 жыл бұрын
Good video! You're right, Copper is the most durable of all plumbing piping materials.
@chevy9256
@chevy9256 6 жыл бұрын
What about that galvanized strap holding the copper pipe , going to cause electrices
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
It was held up there to film this video...look at 10:50, no straps at all, just screwed at rear manifold.
@Ed-vi6tg
@Ed-vi6tg 6 жыл бұрын
Still no excuse to the lay-person. You should edit the video with a caption.
@luissonoma6255
@luissonoma6255 6 жыл бұрын
I understand the bias against cpvc; but with that said, for underground burial that's exposed to the elements(dirt and water). Which pipe would hold up better?
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
Most plumbers use some type of plastic pipe for underground application, but I have seen copper used without any issues
@luissonoma6255
@luissonoma6255 6 жыл бұрын
StarrTile Thanks
@valleyboy547
@valleyboy547 Жыл бұрын
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@Fr3ddbear
@Fr3ddbear 6 жыл бұрын
My company policy is to shut water off before.
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 6 жыл бұрын
If a house had plastic pipe I would not buy it or I would remove it and replace it with copper. Copper red is rated at 200 years and copper blue at 300. I buy blue.
@apex007
@apex007 6 жыл бұрын
good luck with that 200 year claim on elbows and other connections. oh yea, don't forget freezing
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 6 жыл бұрын
Apex, it is much more accurate a prediction then plastic in any scenario. Plastic's are not that hardy and there is an issue with metals in combination so you do have to get it right. Lets leave out the freezing part as that should be taken into account when installing something; anything. Copper is going to have the less mean time to failure of any product we have easily available at the moment. I do not expect that to change anytime soon. It is absolutely dependent on isolation of the product from other metals which is doable. Copper is the best no if or and's about it. Please do Copper as your clients will have peace of mind; but do it correctly. It's important.
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 6 жыл бұрын
As far as the Elbows go, you might knock a couple of years off but they will be around a very long time as apposed to Iron or plastic. I'd say knock a year or two off but that is about it. In our time it is one of those super metals. Affordable to today, get it while you can.
@AustinAirCo
@AustinAirCo 6 жыл бұрын
but Pex is not rodent proof. squirrels, rats, mice, raccoons will all destroy pex. Not to mention your home when it floods. Copper? rodents won't touch it. Financial crisis 101 or ticking time bomb which ever you prefer.
@Ed-vi6tg
@Ed-vi6tg 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't touch Red /"M" NEVER, when plumbing waterlines, hot or cold. And if you have hard water I'd install a water softener even with "L" blue copper. Red tubing and hard water can cause failure in under ten years.
@ktulhu113
@ktulhu113 4 жыл бұрын
Copper around this area will not last 30 years before pinhole leaks start, usually less. Do not know if the city water dept can not control the pH or if it is other chemicals they use. If you are on well water, you will be lucky if you can keep the pH above 6.5 with acid neutralizer.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 4 жыл бұрын
We don't get pinhole leaks in Georgia, it's happened but extremely rare, even when I'm into a 1950s or 60s house
@Losing4Life
@Losing4Life 6 жыл бұрын
Why the hell would you just not go and shut the water off to the house instead of trying to shove a fitting on a live line? I would trust pex in my house far more than copper.
@GMRVC1
@GMRVC1 6 жыл бұрын
PEX is good for a trailer house/ mobile home. If you expect the house to be there for another 50-100 years...use copper plumbing for longevity sake.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed....there are stories of rats eating into PEX, rats can't eat copper.
@Losing4Life
@Losing4Life 6 жыл бұрын
LOL- How many homes have you gone in that are currently 50-100 years old and say, geez the plumbing and electrical don't need to be touched. I think I will just leave it just like it is. If you think the technology we have today will be the same in another 50-100 years when it comes to plumbing I have some swamp land I would like to sell. It is commonplace for million dollar plus homes to be plumbed with PEX. I am not saying copper is not an option. I am saying that no plumbers around here will plumb a house with it.
@Losing4Life
@Losing4Life 6 жыл бұрын
And if you have rats chewing the pex they will also be chewing on the plastic wrapped around your electrical lines. My suggestion, take care of the rat problem.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 6 жыл бұрын
the exception is rat/mice feces and urine, if they nest around the copper lines it will corrode from outside in!
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 6 жыл бұрын
lol @ the valve blown off flooding clip. wonder if it was some "sharkbite" style push on
@nickcollins7568
@nickcollins7568 6 жыл бұрын
Copper is definitely the best way to go for water pipes. I am a UK plumber. CPVC is not something one really finds in the UK market fortunately. It is extremely rare to find it and no one really stocks it. It must have had a brief period of popularity when it first came out and then died a death. It's a problem when one does find it as finding the fittings to join into it are a bit of a nightmare
@DataStorm1
@DataStorm1 6 жыл бұрын
why not cut out the entire plastic pipe from that? having 2x a transition is not a good thing. I'm not saying preference for one or the other, both work fine imo, altho the plastic requires that no brute force is used. Plastic pipe that became cracked is often stressed before that happened, either in transport or some heavy put on top or w/e.
@mghuertas
@mghuertas 3 жыл бұрын
Use silicone gray to make a threaded transition
@langolieralphas
@langolieralphas 4 жыл бұрын
There are few things in life I fear/respect as much as pressurized water.
@ThunderstickSoftware
@ThunderstickSoftware 2 жыл бұрын
Why not just replace those short runs if Cpvc with all copper and not transition at all?
@worseto1
@worseto1 4 жыл бұрын
PVC is cheap and easy like Lego's that is why many diy people prefer it.
@redneck3843
@redneck3843 6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't You don't use primer with that
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
You don't use primer on CPVC
@redneck3843
@redneck3843 6 жыл бұрын
It's required where I live to use primer
@redneck3843
@redneck3843 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. B true
@bradsmallwood938
@bradsmallwood938 5 жыл бұрын
@@redneck3843 orange glue use primer,yellow glue no primer.
@llama1917
@llama1917 3 жыл бұрын
almost lost my drink when you said that you're in trouble when it fails. no you're in no trouble at all it is so easy to cut and put in new couplings if you need to. if copper gets bent and fails somewhere inside of a wall you screwed because it's hard to get a torch in there.
@buckeddy
@buckeddy 5 жыл бұрын
Why did you leave the two feet of CNBC when you hate it so much?
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 5 жыл бұрын
Because I was not there to replace all of the homeowners pipe, I was there to build a shower, his whole house has that stuff and most of it that I could see was under the floor
@williamcounts1541
@williamcounts1541 Жыл бұрын
Is that STEEL strap DIRECTLY on the cooper pipe? HUGE NO-NO!
@rustyshakleford5230
@rustyshakleford5230 3 жыл бұрын
They've been using copper since the 2500BC. Its all I use.
@motohead38
@motohead38 6 жыл бұрын
that flooding video is proof why we need licensed plumbers, lmao
@mariosifuentes5994
@mariosifuentes5994 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t even make that flowgard any more , off course it have a bad reputation, at least here in canada , everyone hate it … or love if you talk your costumer in to a must need it re pipe,
@mgthaking
@mgthaking 6 жыл бұрын
2:42 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@gondolacrescent5
@gondolacrescent5 Жыл бұрын
That disaster is happening in an apartment building- there’s no water shut-off available to the tenant.
@davidjones-vx9ju
@davidjones-vx9ju Ай бұрын
simple phone call
@tallbrian100
@tallbrian100 6 жыл бұрын
Teflon tape is a lubricant not a sealant, it lets you get the connection tight enough to to seal. I use tape and dope.
@JeffOstroff1
@JeffOstroff1 6 жыл бұрын
That contractor, Manuel Labor, working on the leak was such a loser. Whenever I go near any valve i shut off all the water first. There should nto have been any water leaking on that floor. LOL
@StraitClownin909
@StraitClownin909 5 жыл бұрын
Slum lord didn't want to shut the water off to all the units. Each unit didn't have individual shut offs... You're dumb for even thinking it was that easy.
@biteof8702
@biteof8702 5 жыл бұрын
Morons my family and I been plumbers for 40 years turn off the main water and the hot water heater there will be still water in pipes but not a lot need to drain them and I heard the lady in the background yelling call the fire department for what if he's a plumber he should know how to turn off the water supply lines
@icelandic_mughal2223
@icelandic_mughal2223 3 жыл бұрын
You know he’s not a real plumber..... no butt crack showing!!
@floydalbright1214
@floydalbright1214 6 жыл бұрын
Take that strapping off of valve pipe it will deteriorate pipe, use copper pipe clamp.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
What you saw was temporary...at 10:50 ( FINAL ) you'll see valves were anchored with screws in the holes that are on the manifold.
@maartenrijs3
@maartenrijs3 4 жыл бұрын
you are absolutely right about cpvc. I have it in my house and have seen sharkbites fail or leak on it. But I'm guessing you are not a fan of sharkbites either.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 4 жыл бұрын
I like shark bites, they have their place and I always use them sparingly
@maartenrijs3
@maartenrijs3 4 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile O.K.!
@davidwright1752
@davidwright1752 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t let the plumber touch electrical work re the bath room mishap
@MultiMaverix
@MultiMaverix Жыл бұрын
What about 3 inch
@aronjohn84
@aronjohn84 6 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with teflon tape...pipe dope ...ehh....that's is more of a preference
@zzubuzz
@zzubuzz 6 жыл бұрын
Where is Moe and Curly?
@XxMusclecarsxX
@XxMusclecarsxX 6 жыл бұрын
good old copper is the best
@VolpeInCalze
@VolpeInCalze 6 жыл бұрын
The person recording should have known where the shut off to their house was and shut it off. Heck, even the plumber should have had it shut. Holy shit..
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
That was a condo, there was a cost of $150 for a licensed plumber to turn off the water for the building & back on again after work was done...they declined the fee.
@Questchaun
@Questchaun 6 жыл бұрын
Copper is great. Unfortunately pex is in alot of new buildings.
@JohnT2088
@JohnT2088 5 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is when u did all these trying to fix it you will get the blame once another contractor comes again 😆.
@yukuhana
@yukuhana 5 жыл бұрын
My shower mixer valve to CPVC adapter failed and leaked. As I tried to unscrew it from the valve, it snapped. Not sure if it's either because the 12 year CPVC is old or the original plumber used dope instead of teflon tape... Either way, my project DIY project blew up. Now I need the whole valve replaced :(
@travisk5589
@travisk5589 5 жыл бұрын
I saw you use a shark bite, in a wall in a none accessible area, in another one of your videos. Why the change of heart?
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 5 жыл бұрын
Because of that video it was only one for the drop down off of the valve... if I had a copper cap in my toolbox that day I would have sweated the cap on, in that case there was a closet wall right behind the valve so if the shark bite ever failed there was access from a panel installed.
@travisk5589
@travisk5589 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile Sounds good. You should try plugs instead of caps. They are thicker metal than caps and they are male fittings.
@chefboypardee4855
@chefboypardee4855 5 жыл бұрын
Good video but you should never dry fit your cpvc couplings or adapters
@alwilson3541
@alwilson3541 6 жыл бұрын
Hey copper is good the stuff they made years ago was good copper do shit today they have all kinds of alloys in it which ain’t no good and by the way you should get a real job McDonald’s is hiring
@m.t.3109
@m.t.3109 4 жыл бұрын
Why not just glue a male cpvc adapter and transition to a female copper adapter?
@eliudtrevino4304
@eliudtrevino4304 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks body
@clarencejackson5284
@clarencejackson5284 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t wish that on nobody
@sarabiakristofer
@sarabiakristofer 6 жыл бұрын
You ain't a plumber bruh.😅🤣😂
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
Go to 25sec mark..bruh 😂
@JTB128650
@JTB128650 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@efrits86
@efrits86 3 жыл бұрын
Who taught this dude how to solder??
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 3 жыл бұрын
This dude taught this dude function over style...one pin hole leak ya gotta turn off water, drain pipes, start over. There is no harm and no foul over soldering but there is under soldering 👌👍💪
@efrits86
@efrits86 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile well where I'm from we take pride in our work. And if you can't sweat a joint and make it look good and hold especially ½" pipe you aren't getting any work. I see our 1st years work look better than that.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, everything's behind the wall, needs to function and leak free.. My pride is in my finished product at my tile, my customers don't care how pretty a sweat looks
@efrits86
@efrits86 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile I got ya. Different strokes for different folks. We take pride in out work here.
@Ed-vi6tg
@Ed-vi6tg 6 жыл бұрын
As a rule I would only use copper tube straps or band. Shame on you.
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 6 жыл бұрын
Ed Riordan .. yes that was done, the pipe straps you see in the video were temporary to make the video
@natemickens88
@natemickens88 6 жыл бұрын
🙈oh shit
@JohnnieHowell-r5s
@JohnnieHowell-r5s 3 ай бұрын
Walker Sandra Anderson Jessica Jones Sharon
6 жыл бұрын
copper all the way.
@ozziecalienes116
@ozziecalienes116 3 жыл бұрын
There no way that guy is a profesional, you have to shut the water off
@gmoney8087
@gmoney8087 2 жыл бұрын
Who the hell fixes pipes while water is on?
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 2 жыл бұрын
I think In that clip he wasn't trying to fix a pipe, probably he was messing with the angle stop and bent it in such a way that CPVC will Snap On You...that's why it's so dangerous.
@gmoney8087
@gmoney8087 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile great videos and perspective. Thx
@gmoney8087
@gmoney8087 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile 1 question, how far away should one be from a cpvc addition to solder copper?
@StarrTile
@StarrTile 2 жыл бұрын
@@gmoney8087 in my opinion cpvc is useless and it should be taken as far back as possible
@jeffm2787
@jeffm2787 4 жыл бұрын
Stay away from CPVC, nothing wrong with PEX. Copper works the best in most situations, but not all. Highly acidic water and copper, not so much
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