Transition Relay PNW: Whistler test ride

[@stuntmonkey6969]

I had my first e-bike rental day up the Golfie last weekend. 5000+ ft on a Kenevo with range extender and still had 65% at the top of the top of Big Baw which was our last but one descent (we finished with Spanner). Not sure what I had at the top of Spanner as I had swapped my range extender with a lad that had used his. My real point is that the difference in battery use over the day was massively down to fitness. The first full fat had blown his battery by 1pm. When mine was showing 66%, the other full fat read 16%. Both these lads are of the larger size and unfit. I spent the day in eco and rode with a high cadence. What a feeling though, golf club to the bottom of the TVA in 12 minutes with a big smile on my face :) Its a shame that S2 Kenevo's have no room for a proper dropper post... Enjoy the trails, looks amazing.

[@alex737M]

yea, I used eco the whole day and would say i'm very fit, i'd do 5000ft on my own without an ebike and pass most people easily on the climb, i can quite often beat less fit people on full power ebikes up the spooky wood climb in glentress, so this bike actually would limit what i could do in a day normally!! I rented a kenevo sl a few years back and got 4800ft out of the 160wh extender alone. And the trek i rode did 4500ft in eco and didnt even use half battery. The fazua motor must not be particulary efficient, if id used the middle mode or turbo, the bike wouldnt have got very much climbing at all!

[@tmae-9284]

The Fazua is more efficient then the TQ, there are several reviews. just the battery is smaller (compared to trek slash+)and the power output higher resulting in less range.

[@alex737M]

fair enough, i didn't notice the trek had any less assistance in the eco mode anyway! For me, the relay is a 5000ft bike, the trek is a 10,000ft bike (both in eco) and you can even get a range extender for the trek. Just from feel, the TQ system is a much nicer pedal, the fazua "kicked in" more noticablely and was slightly louder.

[@tmae-9284]

@@alex737M the Fazua is 120w vs TQ 99w in Eco. Fazua 430wh vs TQ 580wh. (Fazua release a 480wh same size/weight and the 210wh REX in 2025). TQ is said to derate in longer climbs with higher power output then eco, Fazuas reliability is still bad. Fazua loader then TQ…. So both systems have their merit/demerit. I prefer the Fazua if it works 😅

[@pedrosalas7]

@@tmae-9284 I have the relay. it works well for what I wanted. the controller though, what a piece of crap, specially compared to the shimano controller on my wife's repeater. it really is bad enough that it makes me want to get rid for the bike sometimes.

[@tmae-9284]

@@pedrosalas7 true, fazua has quality issues. They will also release a sturdier „mode control“ in 2025

[@alex737M]

Interesting, as the TQ on the slash definately matched me to a 150w max in eco(ive seen some screenshots of the app confirming this too), my mate rented a fuel exe, and the TQ only matched to 100w on that. Looks like they mabye increased the eco power on the slash to compensate for adding a bigger battery. explains why i thought it gave me similar assistance to the fazua on the relay then! The trek has a 25% larger battery, but seems to have 100% more climbing ability at the same 150W output in eco then! For me, the range on the relay would mean id constantly be worrying about the battery even using eco mode, wheras the trek, id say i would finish the day with battery left over.

[@Don-Michael]

Doing 5000+ ft of vert on a normal ride is insane 😳

[@alex737M]

to be fair, i'm probably not the ideal ebike candidate at the moment lol I've used the aim of a BC holiday to focus my fitness training for the past few years!!

[@RurekHH]

Hi, are you still using osmo action 4? If so, how is the rendering work? I still have problems with poor quality after uploading on yt

[@alex737M]

yes, I think its youtube unfortunately, it removes alot of the quality due to the low bitrate the moment you go into trees or faster movement etc. I use resolve, ive started rendering in h265, and 30fps mp4, and the bitrate at 85000. (youtube bitrate is less than that anway its only max 45k for 4k30 which is why it goes to pixels with lots of things going on in the vid, but at least i have a good quality version on my computer)

[@TheAldoGShow]

Disappoining bike that 😔

[@alex737M]

yea, i had big hopes for it. Handeling was fine, just needed some adjustments to suit me, like the faster rebound, and mabye a slightly longer stem( 1st time ive noticed on a bike how even moving the handlebars foward mada a big difference!) But the battery range is usless for me! Would be fine in winter when i have less time i suppose. I odnt thing the fazua system is anywhere near as good as the TQ. The controller especially though.. Cheapest feeling thing ever, and the moment a bit of dirt got in, it didnt spring back properly!!

[@pedrosalas7]

@@alex737M the controller is so so bad to the point of being comical