Transport Fever 2 - Ep 18 - Modernisation

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Squirrel

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@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 3 жыл бұрын
Now if the rails were linked so the trains went station to station to station to station, like in reality, rather than shuttling between two places and interchanging between trains at each stop, there'd be more people taking the rail routes, it's a PITA when you have to change trains all the time, even for simulated people... :)
@keiyoshi5232
@keiyoshi5232 2 жыл бұрын
40:21 the instant switch to explaining how much a route is making to train fanboy is hilarious xD
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 3 жыл бұрын
Tram emissions are NOT pretty much the same as buses. The one tram has a lower emissions rate than a single bus, but carries like 3-4 times more people than the bus, at faster speeds.
@alamaniac
@alamaniac 3 жыл бұрын
Please connect all your cities with a one main pax train line, instead of making separate lines for each other. It will help greatly for efficiency and performance issues, also will look much much better. This just hurts my brain dude. Also while at it, you can make a big interstate road from one end of the map to another, then branch off smaller city connections from it.
@Justanothervegandude
@Justanothervegandude 3 жыл бұрын
you are so right. what he does with rails is painful to watch
@alamaniac
@alamaniac 3 жыл бұрын
@@Justanothervegandude Yeah, i mean i know that his primary goal here is to show us how game mechanics and stuff work, how to make money etc. but it doesn't mean that everything needs to be so complicated and intricate.
@sbusisongubeni6726
@sbusisongubeni6726 3 жыл бұрын
@@Justanothervegandude l-
@hamza-8978
@hamza-8978 3 жыл бұрын
how can we make the trains stop at each stations when the line goes from one corner to the other? eg from sandhurst to biggleswade how can it stop at the station in the middle, does the game make trains stop at each station automatically? thanks
@michaelhenning2307
@michaelhenning2307 3 жыл бұрын
@@hamza-8978 You just add in a stop with the line creator and it should sort it out.
@michaellove4782
@michaellove4782 3 жыл бұрын
Are you going to pop round the map and upgrade the trains next? I'm sure that the first train line you had built is getting on a little bit.... Awesome video though. As per ush.
@alexandermueller5407
@alexandermueller5407 3 жыл бұрын
Ye, thought the same. There are still steam trains running in 1980!!
@Bigguyragged
@Bigguyragged Жыл бұрын
@@alexandermueller54071980 is the year this vid starts in
@InevitableMe
@InevitableMe 2 ай бұрын
​@@alexandermueller5407 I mean, here in NSW, Australia, it wasn't until 1987ish until the last Class 10 steam locomotives on the East Maitland Railway were retired, but mainline steam did end in the sixties, I believe.
@Fr0dders
@Fr0dders 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm happy with where things are" he says as he closes out the video, meanwhile I'm yelling at the screen that squirrel still hasn't replaced the steam trains yet you can see in shot @ 28 minutes. Get it sorted ! lol
@carmatic
@carmatic 3 жыл бұрын
the penalties for using outdated vehicles arent quite severe enough in this game, i think
@tootzmcgee7144
@tootzmcgee7144 3 жыл бұрын
I had a passenger line between Cincinatti and Baltimore that I purposely kept a steam train on until the 90's as a themed antique line. That game generally was the most I ever made off passenger lines and I still have no idea why they were all so profitable.
@toshineon
@toshineon 3 жыл бұрын
@@tootzmcgee7144 The city I live in irl will do passenger runs with old steam trains during the summer. Of course, with that the purpose is to let you see and experience old trains, not an oversight like in this game.
@tootzmcgee7144
@tootzmcgee7144 3 жыл бұрын
@@toshineon Yeah I wish more places did stuff like that
@kenbarney3843
@kenbarney3843 3 жыл бұрын
With your train station/bus transfer design the people not only have a lon way to walk but they have to cross the street as well. This slows both the busses and pedestrians. This is particularly evidenced at tye Bigglesthwaite station you put in. With no wlaking connection between the bus stop and street the people have to walk down the bus entrances, cross the street where the busses are enerting and exiting, then walk back up the block to the train station entrance. Putting the bus stop on the same side as the train station, with a direct connection, drastically reduces the walking time.
@kenbarney3843
@kenbarney3843 3 жыл бұрын
The one at Worthing might be an even longer walk. Are you sure it is in catchment?
@Spotless-guy
@Spotless-guy 3 ай бұрын
18:07 I would make like a little station with a little platform and I would use the “Rail bus” to connect it to the airport, in order to have like a “shuttle line”, I mean that guy is so underrated, but has a nice acceleration and it's so useful
@christopheradamson7621
@christopheradamson7621 3 жыл бұрын
There's not many videos that I wait for. But this series I look forward to. Thank you for yet another great video.
@Kleesmilie
@Kleesmilie 3 жыл бұрын
Watching Squirrel making an individual train line connecting only two cities is excruciatingly painfull.
@Pro_Existance
@Pro_Existance 2 жыл бұрын
yep... i agree.
@Vdh8
@Vdh8 Жыл бұрын
Yea fr
@benjamincorey6259
@benjamincorey6259 3 жыл бұрын
You wondered why trams had similar pollution values to buses, it is likely due to the noise factor. Earlier trams had metal wheels and ran on metal tracks. Cars and trucks changed to rubber tires fairly early, but trams kept on metal tracks until much later.
@Jacksparrow4986
@Jacksparrow4986 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder where you live. I've heard of rubber tyres beeing used for more acceleration (I think in paris subway) but tram for me totally means metal wheels, just like on trains.
@benjamincorey6259
@benjamincorey6259 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jacksparrow4986 I live in Canada, but I think all of North America followed the same patterns.
@rushad88
@rushad88 3 жыл бұрын
Once this series is done, I would love to see a walkthrough of Skylines!! Would be a pleasure to see that came from your eyes. :) Loving this series so much.
@jianxiongRaven
@jianxiongRaven 3 жыл бұрын
9:52 finally ! Trams ! been waiting for about 5episode for this now 👍❤️❤️ 16:51 oh man gad me laugh 😂😂😂 38:46 😂
@2teethPogZa
@2teethPogZa 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that I predicted an upload from Squirrel is Nuts to me... and yes pun intended- Anyways if the boss man himself reads this comment... I can predict that this series will really pop off and honestly i’m looking forward for new goals after you reach 1 Billion currency... maybe new money goals or other bigger goals... it really doesn’t matter I just love the series that’s it
@rambobannana
@rambobannana 3 жыл бұрын
It popped off about a month ago. It’s been super popular for a while
@connorcavanaugh4109
@connorcavanaugh4109 3 жыл бұрын
This is hands down the best playthrough series you've done and I also love how you explain your methodology in organising different routes. Please don't stop the series (doesn't hurt to repeat what everyone's saying lol)
@ThaumaturgistGuard
@ThaumaturgistGuard 3 жыл бұрын
After watching your first episode of the series, I just got this urge to play the game again. Yesterday, without realizing, I played for more than 6 hours on one sitting and I didn't even feel the time passing, who knew I needed a transport fever fix, haha. Btw, something, you may want to check in the future, is how to enable the different industries to become available for purchase. Sure, it could make the game easier, but it will allow you to go above and beyond when it comes to dedicating yourself to town growth and progress.
@drewferg9
@drewferg9 3 жыл бұрын
I find it strange you put so much emphasis on tractive effort. Tractive effort is the amount of weight a train can pull from a dead stop, and only applies to about the first 10kph of acceleration. Useful for super heavy freight trains*, getting above 10kph on a steep incline, or a service that stops and starts very frequently. After the first 10kph it's all about engine power for getting up to top speed as fast as possible--the biggest factor for passenger profits in this game's model. *The way vanilla is balanced, cargo is far far too light, and power quite literally always trumps TE as a stat even for freight trains. Play with the 5x cargo weight mod and you'll notice a difference between freight and passenger engines on a heavy train.
@dantekoning9010
@dantekoning9010 3 жыл бұрын
I waited for this all day long. And it’s fine here 🥳
@zac7010
@zac7010 3 жыл бұрын
spent the last 15 minutes staring at his acc for this
@RagnarTheRed1
@RagnarTheRed1 3 жыл бұрын
Why, just why do you insist on using trains as shuttles? I would go insane if I had to switch trains at every station.
@ThereWillBeCake
@ThereWillBeCake 3 жыл бұрын
game mechanics
@jianxiongRaven
@jianxiongRaven 3 жыл бұрын
hahahaha . ikr
@thefletch007
@thefletch007 3 жыл бұрын
Loving this series! Very educational in playing the game efficiently
@MarkAlderson
@MarkAlderson 3 жыл бұрын
I got to get a copy of this game, I’m having a blast watching your videos on this! Thanks Squirrel!
@Fallub
@Fallub 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video in this wonderful series. Please keep it up Squirrel.
@Spegy93
@Spegy93 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing as you are calling this a "hard mode" playthrough, it would be interesting to see you impose extra rules on yourself like; only using 1 train depot for the whole map.
@dredre13
@dredre13 3 жыл бұрын
That or do transport can't pass a city. Has to make a stop at each city to keep going.
@Vellereden
@Vellereden 3 жыл бұрын
It is "hard mode" but with a ton of mods to make it easier, some by easing the vanilla balance such as the food supply chains. Also, with lots of industries and cities, so the mean transport distance is short and cheap. Tons of $ wasted on terminals with unnecessarily inefficient storage space. It is not trully hard, but "Squirrel hard". Still, fun to watch
@imoutodaisuki
@imoutodaisuki Жыл бұрын
41:25 I remember you made the road tunnel next to the bridge, but I have no idea about the bridge itself.
@MrZoooogle
@MrZoooogle 3 жыл бұрын
As someone that works in industry i wish you would use Multiple Unit (MU) trains as the were designed. They are called MUs as they can be run together in a consist or as a a "unit". Technically each train can operate independently but in practice placed together in a consist. It allows longer trains without changing the performance of the train. Ik its a game but if you go with locos you could also run two to get mire power. Ik its a game but would be more realistic.
@beastateverythin
@beastateverythin 3 жыл бұрын
Is it realistic to run 2 locomotives? Would that be 1 on each end or 2 at the front? I might do that in my game. In the steam era sometimes there’s just not enough tractive effort available.
@Anonymuskid
@Anonymuskid Жыл бұрын
@@beastateverythin i know it's a year later, but there are trains with 2 locomotives in the front or one in the back and one in the front. i don't know when they get configured like that though
@sutlusipko
@sutlusipko 3 жыл бұрын
I am in dire need of longer episodes! Please oblige Mr. Squirrel. 2 days wait is too long for 50 minute episodes, I LOVE THIS SERIES :)
@leshawnjefferson6150
@leshawnjefferson6150 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you have one lone per each city connection instead of a line with multiple passenger stops? Is that just personal preference or is their a game machanic that makes it beneficial. I imagine doing it that way makes sure all the trains are full because some connections are more popular and if you had a line with multiple stops some sections would be full and others would be empty.
@louisdeclee7301
@louisdeclee7301 3 жыл бұрын
People might not be going to the train stations because the bus routes linking to the train have stops only in commercial areas
@SteamLance
@SteamLance 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer the old stations, as you can tell by the Victorian Quarry Hunslet that is in my profile pic!
@carmatic
@carmatic 3 жыл бұрын
the details in the cities throughout the different time periods look like they are quite substantial i feel like theres a missed opportunity here, you could have given us a few tours of the towns through one of the many bus routes you've set up, maybe even add in some Truckers Diary style commentary instead of just non stop building and expansion you make quite a point of making the game look aesthetic, but only from a top down perspective, what about from the ground level?
@jcrick74
@jcrick74 3 жыл бұрын
idea for ComMat to Aylsham and Thatcham. PR Oil Sand Mine - Bradford or Loughton Fuel Refinery, then sand back to PR ComMat Plant #2
@Petidani0330
@Petidani0330 3 жыл бұрын
Sandhurst gave me an idea. Is it possible to establish a train route between any two cities and then bulldoze the country road altogether without any penalties? This way you could force every single person in these two towns to take the train. Or is it only possible with cities that were already generated without a connection to another?
@Potkan_SVK
@Potkan_SVK 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Squirrel, one question if I may. Is there a specific reason why do you put the extra bus station next to train station to dropoff PAX instead of simple bus/tramp stop in Biggleswade? Wouldn't a simple bus/tram stop right in front of the train station be enough for the PAX dropoff? Is there any benefits using full size bus station instead of bus stop? Just wandering. Thanks!
@sl0ffie
@sl0ffie 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Squirrel, if you want your trucks to move faster on the truck stop i suggest highway ramps instead of one-way small roads also Shift plus left mouse button gives you even more control over rotation. thanks for the video's, keep them up!
@GamerTubeHD
@GamerTubeHD 3 жыл бұрын
Pls use the BR103 and the Einheitswagen IV for a pax train.
@shreyaspatekar5042
@shreyaspatekar5042 3 жыл бұрын
I think the next long term goal for this series should be getting to the current date in game. I think that gives you enough time to completely modernize the whole company
@dandingfelder6763
@dandingfelder6763 3 жыл бұрын
Each day I anticipate a new video from Squirrel!
@LNZT
@LNZT 3 жыл бұрын
yeah! Amazing vid on a monday!
@rishk1
@rishk1 3 жыл бұрын
In worthing your trams go in commercial areas not in resdential so thats why they have no passengers thats what i think
@dimitargenchev
@dimitargenchev 3 жыл бұрын
One more year and I shall be born. GO GO GO.
@benjamincorey6259
@benjamincorey6259 3 жыл бұрын
Since the map is divided by a waterway would you consider an east-west passenger airline between two cities on the east and west map borders?
@thepolishnz
@thepolishnz 3 жыл бұрын
maybe rhe train was stuck in the station because the driver works for SNCF and they had another strike? or it was a British train and there was a leaf on the line
@skylark1024
@skylark1024 3 жыл бұрын
Missed oppertunity to use golden gate bridge 😂
@davidkent5626
@davidkent5626 3 жыл бұрын
Are you planning a video or two of the train pov on a few of the lines? Would be cool to see some of the longer runs.
@lukakrz
@lukakrz 3 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see first view for every kind of transport vehicles just doing their thing, transporting goods and pax in one 30 to 50 min video 😁
@Mostafa-vs8bd
@Mostafa-vs8bd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting to see this series
@alexsegers5175
@alexsegers5175 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content on this game. I would like to make a suggestion. Try to give private transport no access to the highway and let it only be used by your trucks. leave them on the dirt roads so they love to take the train instead. How? You will figure it out as usual.
@davidmitchell8859
@davidmitchell8859 3 жыл бұрын
A thought squirrel I know steam trains are out dated but what about consider a long distance route which is also scenic. Could use the flying scotsman in original colours and passenger cars
@Noblemarq12
@Noblemarq12 2 жыл бұрын
I still play this map, I get ideas where I think I can do better, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't :-) I hope you do another Map like this 🙂
@sweetlemonade123
@sweetlemonade123 3 жыл бұрын
When do you use the widest roads/streets?
@kairovisk25
@kairovisk25 3 жыл бұрын
Ty for another video!
@syedsaboorarif
@syedsaboorarif 3 жыл бұрын
i believe 1 of the aircraft went for a go-around
@joesanchez979
@joesanchez979 3 жыл бұрын
Great video mate 🇦🇺
@lighthouse66
@lighthouse66 3 жыл бұрын
Still no through train lines? Long distance passengers need to change trains like crazy, making the trip cumbersome and time consuming….
@joakimloch2800
@joakimloch2800 3 жыл бұрын
This game reminds me about another game i played before (Transport Tycoon)
@zvolencan1
@zvolencan1 3 жыл бұрын
What an outro. :)
@mukherjeesuniversum2665
@mukherjeesuniversum2665 3 жыл бұрын
Doing shuttle run with costlier trains and wondering why they're making loss. :( Mr. Squirrel make main line services instead of shuttle services. Also now as you've rail connection, maybe disconnecting the roads will increase passenger flow on pax lines.
@DaSpecialZak
@DaSpecialZak 3 жыл бұрын
squirrel, you must of built the bridge cuz of a road underneath it
@Phoenix84
@Phoenix84 3 жыл бұрын
Are you going to merge the pax lines?
@DuckDucGoose
@DuckDucGoose 3 жыл бұрын
When they do expand, (without user built roads) do the cities build their own roads?
@sergiusabo
@sergiusabo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the cities can build their own roads
@DuckDucGoose
@DuckDucGoose 3 жыл бұрын
@@sergiusabo Cool, Thanks.
@RK_GamerNL
@RK_GamerNL 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the traffic light tool because it is not in the list of mods you have but still you used it constantly. Which mod is it??
@Shazeen82
@Shazeen82 Жыл бұрын
Of course trams have high emission. The whole building shaking when one passes by...
@dragonpt7846
@dragonpt7846 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Portugal!! I have been following the videos and I have a question. is it possible to create a single train line for several cities? Example: city 1 - 2 - 3 and back, as in buses. Cheers
@billyjoe3309
@billyjoe3309 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame they don't let you manage the power. I mean, you have electric vehicles, but where does the power come from? It would be neat if they implemented like reactors or coal plants and stuff. More realistic. Then you'd be able to go all electric if you invest right.
@jianxiongRaven
@jianxiongRaven 3 жыл бұрын
OCD or whatever it is in me got abit agitated because i eouldnt wanna transfer wt each station for a new line. why not have a line with multiple station and save those for skipping ahead some stations /fastest train in future
@henryfeng840
@henryfeng840 3 жыл бұрын
you should cut all the highways that you don't use to force people into using your train
@peterjames33
@peterjames33 3 жыл бұрын
Can you show us how to put a second runway in to increase the planes and routes please
@veeandness
@veeandness 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's just a novelty piece, but have you considered where to put your Headquarters yet?
@hreidarV81
@hreidarV81 3 жыл бұрын
How about use air passenger from the Airfield to other end of map ???
@ivanli6993
@ivanli6993 3 жыл бұрын
Is there still trucks for ramsay fuel?
@dukctape
@dukctape 3 жыл бұрын
dude WHY DO YOU BUILD SO MANY TRAIN DEPOTS, you have like THREE on the same line FUCKK
@Killerfreak2112
@Killerfreak2112 3 жыл бұрын
Are roundabouts efficient in TF2?
3 жыл бұрын
at biggleswade make the train stop at the airport
@cookiewriter4001
@cookiewriter4001 3 жыл бұрын
Can Anyone here help me out: I am really far into my world (year 2027) and all the new cities I connect via Passenger Trains get the connection bonus but NOBODY uses the line. They all choose to drive by car until there is a massive traffic jam. I connected 2 cities with over 1500 people and I couldn't fill up a single 40 seat train on that line. What am I doing wrong?
@renekostolnik5709
@renekostolnik5709 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have longer rail lines that reach multiple cities? Do you deliver passengers to the railstation from all residential areas?
@cookiewriter4001
@cookiewriter4001 3 жыл бұрын
@@renekostolnik5709 Yes the train stations are connected to the Cities Bus Lines. And no its the only line for both of these cities. But other lines on different parts of my world showed similar decline in passengers. In 1940 I had 3 Trains between 3 cities all on full capacity (100 people or so) and now even though cities kept growing I struggle to fill 2 ....never happened before. I never played beyond 2000 I just thought it was normal that people used their cars after that.
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 3 жыл бұрын
@@cookiewriter4001 I suppose private transport gets faster over time so you really have to mind the speed factor, if public is slower than driving a lot of sims probably won't take you rides?
@cookiewriter4001
@cookiewriter4001 3 жыл бұрын
@@benbaselet2026 Well I use regional trains but they do 160kph. The only alternative is a road with 100kph limit. And it is stop and go from city to city.
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 3 жыл бұрын
@@cookiewriter4001 Don't forget that the people will first have to hop on the bus and ride over to the train station, catch the next train and then go on their way. A fast tram from the residential to the train station might help? I haven't played so late but somehow it should be something that just needs optimization.
@GamingRoblox87_YT
@GamingRoblox87_YT Жыл бұрын
What will happen if you bought a passenger station with 8 platforms?
@GamingRoblox87_YT
@GamingRoblox87_YT Жыл бұрын
because, it has so much length to it so why don't you make 8 platforms?
@RastaMafinPL
@RastaMafinPL 3 жыл бұрын
funny thing squirel i done exact same setting like yours got same seed but from some strange thing most of my citties req both bread and red bricks that is like most of my 16 cities req that some of them need spanners and boxes and rest gear witch is strange
@twitchcoolbob66
@twitchcoolbob66 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go!!!!
@vadd37
@vadd37 3 жыл бұрын
i think if you only have 1 depot for each type of vehicle then the episodes are a bit more intresting
@wilhelmlarsson5779
@wilhelmlarsson5779 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a mountain in a corner for like 1 billion. Just for the lols💯
@111greatbear3
@111greatbear3 3 жыл бұрын
Sooner or later I'm gonna lose my patience with Squirrel as he's being very non practical with the rail network plus Squirrel is just as bad as BR doing the modernization plan
@samuelginting3213
@samuelginting3213 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's following in BR's footsteps... just a thought
@TallulahSoie
@TallulahSoie 3 жыл бұрын
For the algorithm!
@abhilashpatnaik5322
@abhilashpatnaik5322 3 жыл бұрын
Where is our company's headquarters?
@vishal0thomas
@vishal0thomas 3 жыл бұрын
I have the answer now why do government set traffic lights on roads.
@gswedish5669
@gswedish5669 3 жыл бұрын
I think not enough buses and trams in the cities why pax trains r burning money
@animishisok6976
@animishisok6976 3 жыл бұрын
Squirrel saying about the aeroplane TGV pops TGV TV TGV ¡¡¡¡¡¡
@artafo
@artafo 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but... Way too many depots and not one proper train line, just train shuttles... :(
@secretslayer1234
@secretslayer1234 3 жыл бұрын
3rd I think?
@shadmansakib40
@shadmansakib40 3 жыл бұрын
Man's needs to chill with the awful green please
@danstechrefirbishment8756
@danstechrefirbishment8756 3 жыл бұрын
Land lord super?
@GIOGS
@GIOGS 3 жыл бұрын
Think it is time to stop watching this series as point to point train lines is just absolutely painful.
@walldeaf196
@walldeaf196 3 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying your vids, but the way you are handling passengers..... uhmmm, a one to one point isn't good enough, m8.
@cuttothefinest
@cuttothefinest 3 жыл бұрын
Second
@tylerhennessey9340
@tylerhennessey9340 3 жыл бұрын
First
@tylerhennessey9340
@tylerhennessey9340 3 жыл бұрын
Love you my guy
@SouthWalesTrainSpotter
@SouthWalesTrainSpotter 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you just say that you love yourself you weirdo
@cassidynajim8937
@cassidynajim8937 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh love😙
@SouthWalesTrainSpotter
@SouthWalesTrainSpotter 3 жыл бұрын
HEY Tyler you are weird.
@SouthWalesTrainSpotter
@SouthWalesTrainSpotter 3 жыл бұрын
And the sane for you Cassidy or whatever you name iz
@fraddowsen9837
@fraddowsen9837 3 жыл бұрын
More plzz
@soumyojitbiswas1122
@soumyojitbiswas1122 3 жыл бұрын
bro how can get this game for free?
@Torgonius
@Torgonius 3 жыл бұрын
I can send you a copy, but it costs $45 for shipping.
@DjDaan111
@DjDaan111 3 жыл бұрын
Nope just buy it, it's worth it
@soumyojitbiswas1122
@soumyojitbiswas1122 3 жыл бұрын
@@Torgonius no bro i want it for free
@sirmagnumcat4996
@sirmagnumcat4996 3 жыл бұрын
@@soumyojitbiswas1122 you do realise that pirating games is a shit thing to do. Games are made to make money and this company haven’t made the most games. In my local currency it’s like £30. It really isn’t that expensive
@soumyojitbiswas1122
@soumyojitbiswas1122 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirmagnumcat4996 i know that i want omly for a tasting.
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