Transvalutaion of All Values: The Individual and the Community

[@GusBrunson]

This lecture should be broadcasted on prime time TV once a week. Amazingly important and meaningful.

[@ArtOfWarStudios1]

Wes I wish you could just have these discussions live everyday or every week. Make the sacrifice unto the community man the world needs your wisdom lol.

[@shaneranaekelley9543]

No doubt. He speaks with such reason and I guess that is why everyone won't listen as it seems reason is not in style now days.

[@timblackburn1593]

Bollox

[@xDemonTech]

I'm very glad my friend pointed me to you. These lectures are great, I'm transfixed!

[@Happyfarmer77328]

This came at the perfect time. Thanks Wes!

[@Sonshien667]

I have been waiting for this; and so it arrives, none too soon.

[@JustinMBailey]

.........OK

[@ianrammelkamp2096]

Collectives are made better by individualism and personal liberty. They are not a dichotomy. It is the power of the network. When the power of the network is distributed the network becomes more robust. The enlightenment thinkers recognized that governance (the collective) should be applied at the level of the individual. The individual should be the locus of decision (voting, democracy), since it is the level where the will (and suffering) resides.

[@yasha12isreal]

Its always soothing to hear you fidgeting with the podium 😏

[@squirrel435]

It was starting to sound a little like Huxley’s brave new world at the beginning there. Got a little nervous but you turned it around. I like the observations made about personal liberty.

[@Great_Olaf5]

When you have any situation involving more than one person, it is a negotiation, a neverending dance or balancing act between the needs and wants of all those involved, and that absolutely involves the sacrifice of some of those on the part of all of those involved. I accept this, on a pragmatic level, but as an individualist, I have to say this in tempered terms. There are limits on personal liberty, because complete freedom to do whatever you want will always interfere with someone else's ability to do the same, that doesn't mean i don't still lean heavily on the individualism side of the argument.

[@silphy2677]

"Part of our present difficulty is that we must constantly adjust our lives, our thoughts and our emotions, in order to live simultaneously within the different kinds of orders according to different rules. If we were to apply the unmodified, uncurbed, rules of the micro-cosmos (i.e. of the small band or troop, or of, say, our families) to the macro-cosmos (our wider civilisation), as our instincts and sentimental yearnings often make us wish to do, we would destroy it. Yet if we were always to apply the rules of the extended order to our more intimate groupings, we would crush them. So we must learn to live in two sorts of world at once." - F.A. Hayek Hayek was writing about the same issues You talk about. For example his idea of extended order could help you to grasp the dichotomy even better. I don't know if you're familiar with his ideas. Propably you know just his Constitusion of Liberty. I hope it can help with your Great Task. Regards.

[@atypicaltexan3834]

If people were aware of how the financial system works in reality compared to popular myth it might make them start questioning other aspects of society. The "fractional reserve" system banks operate under allows them to create credit by nothing more than a few key strokes at ten times bank reserves. The principal is cancelled out when repaid but all interest and fees are credited to the bank. This system requires constant expansion to stay solvent.

[@thalyx90]

Hi Wes, thank you very much for sharing your excellent lectures. I wish you would do a lecture on the Odyssey - Perhaps, one day :)

[@aMulliganStew]

But what if I don’t want to be a Mormon?

[@No_Direct_Translation]

38th-ish minute on how to renegotiate the student-loan debt crisis is very do able with modern communication tools.

[@SuperSpidey313]

WE NEED TO JOIN TOGETHER TO FIGHT THE OLIGARCHY!

[@Sonshien667]

Hey, I've been flirting with the idea of a popular Veto for stupid, unfair laws and corporate charters. A way for people shut down harmful practices. When it comes to personal liberty, one of the most important freedoms is the freedom to say NO.

[@SuperSpidey313]

Why stop there? Do we even need to be a republic with the communications technology we have noadays? Why not a direct democracy?

[@ProlificThreadworm]

@@SuperSpidey313 or anarchy

[@mementocatharsis9372]

Thank you very much for this one.

[@alan2here]

"then only play the notes that make up this scale" "I can play any notes I like, you can't tell me what to do" "then your not playing Indian Classical music" "but I want to play Indian Classical music" "then …" Repeat :-P

[@SlugSage]

I'd give up everything to be apart of a thriving healthy community.

[@atypicaltexan3834]

That is exactly what I have undertaken as my mission in life. If I can pull a few people around me out of this sociopathic system it would be wonderful. It's sanity destroying to be unplugged from the matrix alone.

[@TrentonGauthier]

I would love a source for the assertion made at 52 19 that half of all suburban homes in the united states have only one occupant.

[@Yowzoe]

+Trenton Gauthier Yes, he needs to be much more careful and precise with his numbers or he risks his credibility. He doubles the actual percentage. See Table 2: www.nahb.org/en/research/housing-economics/special-studies/archives/geography-of-home-size-and-occupancy-2011.aspx

[@TrentonGauthier]

@@Yowzoe I very much agree. Perhaps he has a different source. It's a great statistic to track.

[@TrentonGauthier]

@@Yowzoe and thanks for finding that for me!

[@timblackburn1593]

The NAHB have decided to suspend their publication of the single occupant in suburban dwellings figures.

[@moatazmattar4714]

OH MY GAWD YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!

[@burnsloads]

Good timing wes.

[@TheZalor]

So joining a guild was like joining the mafia, "You can never leave"

[@strange_charm_x]

Thank you!

[@JustinMBailey]

Wes one of the best decisions I have made in the past 5 years was cutting out most of my family most of the time (not the wife daughter and akita dog of course heaven forbid). Family reunions are like kryptonite to me, and your lectures greatly helped me to stand my ground and start saying hell no to all that......and it's been fucking awesome. Now funnily enough whenever I'm around the family members I do still chose to see I seem to get along with them all much better, perhaps cause they know I don't have to be there if I don't want to? Anyways that might be one of the best things I've gotten out of your lectures so far, I think this one ties in fantastically with your friendship one from 2 years back. LOL so what percentage of extended family do you still frequent Wes? Haha!

[@jan-jp4bt]

Yes , yes , yes!

[@cheri238]

I wrote a story to you and it was erased and deleted at some point, not by me, sentences were missing, and I did not do it. I AM NOT TECH SAVEY. OH, WELL!!!

[@TonyWinston]

0:22

[@ht6771]

Wes, i think you should have a conversation with Jordan Peterson. That, i believe, would be very productive and interesting. Other than that, great topic and approach!

[@g.boychev9355]

Well, symphonies are going to die eventually just like all culture dies eventually. Ancient music is for the most part lost to us because the social relations that made it possible have disappeared. I imagine the good version of the future as a free jazz orchestra: people coming together to make this wonderful orgiastic ruckus. In the free jazz orchestra everyone plays whatever they want, but at the same time everyone listens to others and responds to them consciously or unconsciously. The end result is this rich tapestry of interweaving lines where everyone is independent but the entire group is larger than the sum of its parts and appears to move in a direction of its own. Too bad it's not a philharmonic, but also too bad that the philharmonic orchestra doesn't play ancient Greek music, isn't it? I think we're too stuck in the past and value these works of centuries and millennia ago way too much. It's not like the point of culture is to reproduce the symphonic form over and over again, the point of culture is people - people here and now.

[@timblackburn1593]

You want to cancel the philly 😵

[@rattenusrattoonus1880]

valutaion

[@csuer01a]

At min 35 I think you miss the point. No one bemoans that kids return to live at home, they bemoan that they live at home with no job, and just live off their parents sometimes without trying to work. I don't know anyone that bemoans strong community and kids living near parents

[@timblackburn1593]

Too simple, mate. Student loans are made available on the terms they are cos students need, for their and the greater good, to be productive. Romans 12.2, Kant's CI and we're getting somewhere. Community, and to be ruled by The Dean, no way.

[@csuer01a]

Student loan debt: using community to fund college is a great idea! I always wonder why students use government backed loans. But your idea of defaulting on the debt is a horrible idea. First, businesses do not renegotiate all the time, if they default on a contract, they are sued for breach and have to pay. Second, if your students default that is not only immoral (this is a philosophy class isn't it?) but it will hurt the students more as they will have bad credit. Don't take out a loan for more than you can pay and shop around to get the best deal, no one is forcing your students to take the loans. Cmon, don't teach victimhood! That's not good for students to learn.

[@88Factor]

Eh, if you have to go to college to get a decent job, then yes, you could quite arguably have to take the loan, and therefore, they are, in practice, forced to take the loan.

[@csuer01a]

@@88Factor hardly. You can go to a low priced school or work at night to put yourself through school (I did that). That was how it was done for decades until this generation.