TRASH TALKER Thinks Jenos Is Bad... | Paladins

[@Nox_Desiree]

Me, a support main, fighting for my life fending off flanks and trying my best just for the tank who didn't buy rejuvenate and keeps overextending to complain about heals.

[@bmuddd_]

yes

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

very relatable.

[@uniteduniverse9107]

Same though

[@justanotherowl8085]

All too relatable as a support main..

[@warforge3850]

relatable as a jenos main i hate it when players don't see i lifted up a enemy for them to kill, jenos is damage and support at the same time.

[@rstyshckls]

As a Jenos main I feel represented! I can understand the Inara a little bit in the first game since Jenos heal is really bad with Inara's kit but that person was not only rude from the beginning but also he had a Ying as well. Real weird one blaming supp's like that especially as tank. 7:20 That is a good and reasonably doable play in siege matches. You get some respect for going for it semi blind from me.

[@immahamsteryogamer]

Hi fellow Jenos main. I like pie. Do you like pie? (Why am I saying this when everyone likes pie?)

[@quitegauche]

Ikr! I've been playing Jenos since he got released and I've had so many ppl tell me to switch to a "better support" or pick a ying. (I still remember that one Barik in rank complaining about me being Jenos, we won that match...I outperformed the enemy support but the Barik was still complaining.) still I do wish that they return his no CD jump. Give him that mobility he deserves. I miss being aggro Jenos and being able to escape flanks without needing help.

[@edboy3959]

Listen, Ive been aa Jenos main since I started playing and I do like these buff he's gotten, and I just got to level 50 with him this double xp weekend, but if I'm the only healer, I gotta work my A off just to keep the damage and the flank that are across the map and the tank on point and another off tank just trying to spawn camp. If I have another healer, I'll survive with these buffs. If I'm solo, I have to pray on muscle memory and hope my team know what rejuvenate is

[@Nozel43]

I saw a Jenos a few games ago and he was level 999 with Jenos

[@immahamsteryogamer]

I just play Furia 'cause solo support Jenos is painful. Unless my whole team is damage, then I play damage Jenos.

[@immahamsteryogamer]

@@Nozel43 I heard about them on Discord a while ago.

[@ZipDoomTide]

If you have smaller tanks like Barik or Atlas, his healing is not as much of a problem like Raum, Inara, or Yagorath. Running the increased Astral Mark duration card can help with healing tanks while you place heals on others as well.

[@PapaKnoxxX]

300 levels on jenos later, I realize it isn't jenos that's bad... It's the people who want to rush in 1v5 situations wanting that mark to heal 2000 a second

[@rstyshckls]

Lvl 300 is crazy. My teammates ask me how I am not bored of Jenos all the time and I'm not even lvl 200! Got any tipps or fav thing about Jenos to share?

[@PapaKnoxxX]

@@rstyshckls space jam lvl5 for the best jump in the game. Dodges multiple ults, gives projectile and blast characters hell, and you can forget about enemies with no vertical mobility entirely, on maps like bazaar, serpent Beach, timber mill, you name it. I've maxed that card out since 2018... What makes it tricky, is knowing when to cancel stellar wind, as slow fall speed can be your worst enemy.

[@rstyshckls]

Interesting approach. I never play Space Jam. Only have it at lvl 3 in a loadout specifically for Bright Marsh. I usually play with lvl 3-4 self heal but I almost exclusively play Luminary too. My fav thing about Jenos is the Void grab. Seriously underrated for a soft cc ability. There are so many small things you can do to utilize his abilities like dodging and wasting Vik ult with Stellar Wind.

[@PapaKnoxxX]

@@rstyshckls ahh yes. Easy to use, hard to master. An ability with a skill ceiling that makes the difference between someone who needs power cosmeum to make it work, or the Chad who only needed the 0.2 second cripple it already comes with

[@Kuroxchu]

I think the biggest issue in Jenos' healing is actually his cooldown, I understand that he has a continuous healing but even with those buffs you can't hold heals for the whole team, you can't Even keep your tank alive since he's the one who recieves the most dmg in match 😐 they could nerf his healing p/second and buff his healing cooldown since you need to put the healing cooldown Card to 5 to work decently. Hope my good baby recieves more buffs 😩

[@quitegauche]

That's sort of my issue too, if the enemy has high dmg output/aoe I can't combat that even with the best heal build + 3 Chronos. Though most of the time if my team ain't dumb, I can usually solo heal and keep them alive.

[@Jeff-xb8eg]

While i agree jenos isnt outright bad but i dont think he should be used as the main healer. His heals still feel very weak and corvus is just a straight up better pick. Plus most people dont have your game sense and skill to pull it off.

[@DemonLordGamingAC0]

Agreed. Starting off as a Jenos main in Paladins, and I can tell he's not made to be the main healer. He HAS a heal but it's more of a sustain

[@Whobertt]

The true story: Today I've played Luminary Jenos solo-healer King-Of-The-Hill game. We had Inara, Maeve, Skye and Kinessa. In the enemy team was Khan, Skye, Seris and I don't remember rest. Seris healed for total 21000+ HP and I've healed for 45000+. Jenos really can be useful support, but you have to heal. I hate when someone play Binary Star Jenos as a Solo-Healer. Jenos IS underrated, but some players just suck at him.

[@ShAdoWVeRsE8]

Oof, that toxic inara....I notice the real bad players go toxic from the start...

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

I love it when people brainlessly blame the support. It gives me a chance to trashtalk back since im a heal main and I know im good "its kinda fun bullying toxic people sometimes" is a true statement

[@Shupra94]

I love jenos. He’s one of my most played supports. The buffs are bringing him in a better direction but he is still not strong enough. Jenos has a kit that has the potential to be really OP so I understand but his healers numbers are just simply still too low. Especially in the new meta of burst healers ie Furia corvus etc. I pray they give him another little boost soon.

[@NewMaite]

If Jenos is your only healer on the team it might as well be a throw pick. He needs a strong team around him to flourish. If someone on my team picks Jenos I immediately pick up a second healer for us.

[@B0rnT0L05e]

Idk with a proper build and chronos 3 you can heal your entire team at the same time all game

[@Whobertt]

5:19 FunFact: Word "SUKA" in Polish means "B1TCH", soooo, if he's from Poland, well intelligent nickname. *Sarcastic Claping*

[@DemonLordGamingAC0]

Don't mind me, I've only played Paladins for about 10 hours, but already starting as a Jenos main, Jenos' best use is focusing Void Grip IMO. It REALLY dooms flankers, especially very mobile ones like VII and Maeve. And have good timing on his ult can really change the flow of the game. He is not really an active healer as I like to say, he's more of a passive healer. Plus Seris + Jenos together are deadly. when their ults combo you can delete their whole team

[@iAmNothingness]

I just saw that i'm not subbed lmao, you're really fun to watch and very helpful!

[@mangledatsweetfoxie2430]

My few complaints about being a support player in Paladins: 1) Most of the time, tanks don't get rejuvenate. 2) Flanks (or anyone for that matter but mostly flanks) over extend with little to no HP, die, then blame the supports for no heals. 3) Trying my damn best to heal everyone but God forbid a perfectly healthy teammate gets in the way of my healing ability (depending on the champion ofc) and steals the healing I was trying to give to someone else. 4) People doing the whole "Why am I not getting any heals?" when one if not both supports are dead or getting flanked. 5) And lastly.. Attempting to survive being dove upon and the toxic player is all like "Why aren't you healing me?" and said player REFUSES to help you. If I'm missing anything (which I know I am) feel free to add to the list. Love the content btw. ❤️ Edit: I'm aware #4 and #5 are kind of the same thing.. I'm just not good with wording things.

[@robbenotebaert1674]

That's annoying when you have bot in your team, if I play ranked their is 95% chane there is a bot in game and then 45% chane there are 2. And it is not because they quit, they just crash before we can start playing

[@Inked_Wing]

Same! I'm in Bronze and I can't rank up because they DON'T listen to chat and if it's 1/3 or 3/3, they quit, are toxic or are a bot the whole match. Like, my performance is pretty good, I think, I can't see myself in Bronze. But these ppl make it impossible to rank up.

[@joonyou9392]

I love Jenos, tho I kinda miss his old attack buff talent TBH, I mean I like the buffed heals don't get me wrong, but personally I see Jenos more of a pocket healer than an on-point one, also at the start of the vid I get Inara was mad cuz a pocket healer can't supply as much healing for a tank but she still acted too toxic, and selfish actually cuz others need heals too actually, and worst of all she didn't get rejuvenate, the only thing that can basically secure better heals specially with a Jenos when healing a tank. Honestly Jenos is underrated just cause he's free and doesn't heal as much as other supports, so some people just fail to understand his real charm.

[@StarlightMagician]

I notice that whenever an Inara is a Toxic asshat, they usually are wearing the Frost Walker skin. Why nobody has made a Skin Stereotypes video is beyond me.

[@skellyharr]

Honestly I’m confused why people are so worked up in casual. It’s just a normal game of Paladins not a tournament lol.

[@MashedMangos22]

"why arent you healing me?" *no rejuv* bruh that was too funny

[@dabilaroali1037]

I would have understood inara if that was solo healer Jenos considering 9 out of 10 times the heals won't be decent but two support is fine as long as....you start by buying the proper items.

[@lokiking3]

Gotta say though as a player since alpha and as someone who before all the healing changes used to love playing Jeno's he is very bad as a full healer even when you are trying to focus heal with another healer his kit basically demands he can't be a good solo helper without being broken but the changes help him feel better even though he will always demand a second healer

[@jekubb4348]

is jenos the reason hes going 3rd person at times? or is he switching at will?

[@kelme8095]

Jenos' one ability makes it so he's in third person. It allows you to escape better. It's similar to Khans grab.

[@kcppanos1639]

I remember the glorious days of luminary jenos 10% damage amp at season 2 when jenos was pick or ban

[@ken_super295]

Am playing more jenos lately he's pretty fun

[@slade4892]

Love the content 🕺

[@TeachMeSam]

I feel sorry for ya. That Inara came complaining right from the start. GG tho

[@GabrielTobing]

Nice one Kirbz! :D Sad to see people still hating on supps though XD

[@ingame_yourself]

Ok so hear me out, jenos is not bad and he heals quite a lot, the thing is that that heal is so slow that even when healing 3 allies across the map you don't get a lot of value from that pick, a healer that can do that and the better is corvus, and in long maps that don't have much walls seris with mortal reach can do pretry much the same thing. While jenos brings some things like decent dps, void grab that can help focus the tank/healer/good dps, decent mobility and a good ult, he is indeed not worth it as a solo support. His true potential comes when he is used as a damage-heal hybrid champion with another main sup, like corvus,furia,rei,etc. At least that's what i got from my 3 and a half years of main support experience Idk about you guys

[@Floridamangaming729]

Personally i have a friend of mine who is like masters or something. But he doesn't seem to enjoy the game anymore. But he taught me about this really broken jenos deck and i started using it on top of just being good at the game...and its pretty insane. I like how i can heal and do damage at the same time. i dont like sacrificing damage for healing. like with seris or something.

[@kosmosoexe5484]

I have a question is paladins still worth playing after all the updtes i stopped playing a year ago so i dont know whats happening also i have no one to play it with so i got bored and stopped playing but now i wana go back and play but im afraid i get the same kind of feeling i did while i played it a year ago. If yall dont mind and tell me how the game is now and is it still worth it.

[@KirbZM]

So far season 5 has been really fun for me since there's new changes that are not just skins and champions. Give it a try again!

[@edboy3959]

Paladins is still a fun game to play, even if you play it as like a side game to play when main games get repetitive. So far, fun season and hope things get better all around

[@kosmosoexe5484]

@@KirbZM i see ill give it a try and see

[@kosmosoexe5484]

@@edboy3959 ill give it another try

[@freaki0734]

people think that any dmg support is pip or grohk and it's so annoying like people say "why nobody healer" if you got a damage furia and jenos who both have almost the same healing output as their full heal version

[@casrieldreemur9423]

I have Remix Jenos, Remix Pepper, and Remix Seris. And I have Salt IO. I got my supports on lockdown.

[@certified9104]

Honestly if they were being toxic to me I just wouldn't heal them 😂 dont know why they expect people to heal them after they call them trash

[@immahamsteryogamer]

I heal people who are being toxic to me because I still try my best to win. Even that Nando that cussed at me in a bot match 2 years ago. (Yes, they were toxic in a bot match because we couldn't push)

[@kaeyasimp3918]

ill heal to try and win for everyone else if its the tank, because its not fair to throw when its just 1, but if they get to a point where i snap then ill just ignore them and throw anyways cuz im petty

[@shaz_1466]

@@immahamsteryogamer 2 years? Man, this really tells how much toxicity affects other players. Unimportant bot match is long forgotten, but the asshole will be remembered for years...

[@satisfyingnature5491]

playing as jenos is so fun

[@vorathehamburger9528]

Day 4 of asking Vora max ult spam. The card “Deadly Dance” at lvl 5

[@SatanicPhoenix]

Remember Me?, haha i'm not playing too much Paladins before, but i see the people dont change about supports and toxic plays like report, blame you or do the classic afk. Anyway i'm going to learn again play the game with you're videos because don't play for 1 or 2 weeks . . . or more to a month,i'been missing a lot of information of the game haha. Salute, have a great or healthy year. My friend, dude, bro pal, etc, haha.

[@KirbZM]

Oh hey i remember you! aren't you one of the ogs :) welcome back

[@vibing_racoonz3976]

Jenos has the least heals though?

[@lilywashere638]

For 2 year i been playing this game I never heard someone ever say luminary jenos bad pick Is that nara high? Also complain didn't get heal but never bought reju. *OOF*

[@quitegauche]

2:54 Just track the dmg numbers half of the time you can get the stealthed champions without needing illu.

[@LoudSpyGaming]

Heals and healing cards are a lot stronger now with the caut changes! What a noob threatening to report you lol

[@tyfrog2645]

where is your accent from?

[@KirbZM]

i'm from the Philippines :)

[@warforge3850]

when trash talkers call a support weak and they die multiple times and still blame you for not healing.

[@itsvertex5606]

i learned something new, the german text from jenosn isnt correct i was thinking he is bad bc low healing, in german i read 200hp in 10 sec thats why i was thinking he is bad but i never say something in the like "this champion is trash"

[@brandon2117]

To this day Tanks still talk shit about healers when the healers are getting flanked by everyone and trying to stay alive with ZERO HELP😂😂

[@desmondroyaltyfrye56]

That Inara player needs to refill on intelligence.😂😂😂 While understanding she’s not the only other player in the team.

[@sihaskumarasingha8148]

dude serious question. why can't hirez fix their servers. i dont know the process involving fixing the servers or how it should be done. but it cant be THAT hard. i just dont understand. they keep adding new things to the game and yet they dont seem to even try to fix the quality of gameplay. i mean i'ven't played any other game whose developer dgaf this much. i could be wrong so like pls lmk

[@VatuSaii]

Kirbz if they kept talking shit about you don't ever just heal them let them rage quit, I did it on a stupid trash talker he immediately kept complaining

[@novanexus9112]

Built in cauterize made the heals useless sometimes but its not gonna make you a bad healer, you just need a proper team. As a main healer im having an hard time healing on a team mate(since im recently come back playing and unaware of changes), even have rejuv. or none rejuv. specially those stupid one. xD ALSO even you use rejuv. it will not greatly help in a middle of a battle but instead it will give you a breathing room to run away, Remember the effect of reju will start greatly after the cauterize effect ended. It still have effect but the heals are not that great so you should use it to run and hide then receive a proper great heal then back to the battlefield. I encounter a player like this inara they still whining about my useless heals even though they use rejuv. xD Its really useless if you are in under effect of cauterize xD people should understand it.

[@crimsonspade4305]

Jenos has never been bad. He is kinds underrated tbh. I'm curious as to how well torvold is doing now

[@immahamsteryogamer]

Sadly he has never been played for his healing because Old Lum and Damage Jenos existed. Even when he had a good healing talent.

[@crimsonspade4305]

@@immahamsteryogamer I've played him as max heals before. He is solid in that department. His only down side is how he isn't good against anything with cc

[@elmercy4968]

Well, Jenos is bad but this also goes for Inara. So if I pick Inara, especially on Fishmarket, I shouldn't complain.

[@basseth2691]

Jeno's main here underrated level 167

[@gavincaldwell7420]

I personally think jenos is in my top 3 favorite supports along with Grohk and IO

[@GaBoiGregG]

I hate how on a non role que game people want you to play a certain way and neta characters and builds or they report...

[@Gusenichka_]

Im a jenos main since 2019, still my favourite champ

[@mernix]

That Inara was so toxic.

[@desmondroyaltyfrye56]

That Inara talked so much and complained than playing the game more.

[@lewolf4047]

even 1y after I steal main jenos but every game I got trash talk xD

[@smgnewer3393]

Hirez buff mother's grace with the heal inara can have but this person take cripple and complaining about heal, a genius

[@v_Magica]

na dont underestimate jenos, mal damba, or ying. i see ying get trashed whenever i play her and i end up doing more healing, damage, and dropping more kills than our damages and flanks. trash talkers are just all ass at the game

[@Messmerrtheİmpaler]

Ying is good But Jenos is so easy to beat İf jenos have power cosmeum Just by lvl 3 resillence

[@0Milena_aneliM0]

They were like "mob mentality" and you are like "hold my comment section" But jokes apart I think jenos is a good healer, a meh healer for double tank and an excellent healer if you have a potato helping to heal.

[@sandstorm7427]

Jenos is still a better damage than a healer in my opinion

[@immahamsteryogamer]

He really is.

[@ShivamSingh-wr5og]

Moji lvl 50 grind

[@rozthepuffer1037]

oh 2 of my teammates just died from pushing, let me just be sitting duck on this point and do 1v5 instead of trying to group with my other 2 surviving teammates. Inara if you want to trash talk at least be good at the game, peace

[@BjarnefraTyskland]

My main healer is Jenos he is so cool.

[@HallowGrave-_-19]

tbh tho 69k healing is that much for that long of a game😂

[@aquaria182]

Say hello to the gays

[@МаксимШепард-э7л]

I know how you survive. You not lose all HP.

[@tameone]

He's not wrong. Janos is not a good healer. You played a terrible team and a lot of Janos healing is the self heals to him from healing someone else. That said. His heals as a solo healer will not beat a good team!

[@desmondroyaltyfrye56]

He’s still wrong. That Inara player is quite brain-dead. Kirb did the best he could for that team and got disrespect in return.

[@Zasnoola]

I hate the paladins community, eternal tears in the chat and AFK. I stopped playing for support For constant insults :\

[@EpicFragz]

Typical toxic paladins

[@supunthivanka7727]

bro the whole game is bad