Carbon Lang First Look & Crash Course | Google's C++ Successor

[@tbn4lyfe]

I watched this video 10 times and now have the required 10 years of Carbon experience for my unpaid internship. Thanks Brad!

[@johnsmithsu310]

Men approved 👍

[@redcrafterlppa303]

Hey I wanted to make the years experience joke 🤣

[@0xN1nja]

W

[@chriswinslow]

I was pleasantly surprised that you have already covered carbon in such depth. I will be following Carbons development and adaptation very closely. Thank you for providing yet another great course for all to watch for free.

[@theophilus494]

The fact you picked up this to teach us .. I'm grateful...

[@dabunnisher29]

It's great to see you again Brad. You are always one of my favorites. Thanks for all that you do.

[@corewwwi]

i wasn't expecting a tutorial about this language anytime soon... i liked it!

[@Elite7555]

I have always thought D to be the unofficial C++ successor. But after years of using D, I have to admit that D feels like a second broken C++. So I am really excited how Carbon goes.

[@peramoredellanalisi4341]

There will not be a C++, am sorry to disappoint you. If you want to learn a programming language different from C++, of course you're welcome. Forget about successor, just code in the language you like and don't spend unnecessary time talking about impossible things. C++ will not disappear, don't worry. I personally go for C++ and will not spend 1 minute of my time learning this kind of language. It's a matter of having different interests.

[@carlbrenner7078]

@@peramoredellanalisi4341 Okay, but who asked you? It's so irritating that every time a new language pops up, or even just some kind of a new concept, overconfident foretellers show up en mass to tell everyone how shit that new thing is and there's only one truity, the one that they are already familiar with. You guys are boring.

[@peramoredellanalisi4341]

​@@carlbrenner7078 Hey Genius, first of all, your comment is trivial because i can apply it the way round: every time that a new language pops up, overconfident creators and haters of well-established programming languages show up and spam their videos to tell everyone how better is the new thing there's only one "truiity" (the new of course). How does it sound? Second, i don't disagree at all with novelty! The point is NOT novelty. The point is the wrong propaganda around the new entries, which are brought out as the only possible choice that will replace that annoying old language.That's MISINFORMATION! That's disseminating false ideas. Because though the new languages bring new aspects of novelty, you cannot impose that the ENTIRE world based, for instance, on C++ can be totally replaced by one new language. For example, who uses C++ for games and scientific computing, do you think they have desire to step on a new esotheric language?? Why??? That language might meet specific needs that have not been met by other languages, which is fine. But replacing entirely is a pure dream. At least do avoid misinformation. Stroustrup says that C++ will be on the edge for up to 2 decades.

[@Elite7555]

@@peramoredellanalisi4341, what are you talking about 🤣?

[@lane1313]

What about D do you find it has failed at? I'm just beginning to learn D and after a year of learning C++ it seems D offers so much more improvements and conveniences.

[@JuniorBloxHD]

31:01 `var` makes the parameter mutable, instead of immutable by default.

[@muonx9649]

kudos!

[@provokator-provocateur7603]

You are very fast. Carbon is a new and fresh thing right now and you already did crash course.

[@philmarsh7723]

This is the right way to design new programming languages. Interoperability with the incumbents is absolutely necessary.

[@JaskoonerSingh]

It would have been cool if you showed Carbon interoperability with CPP. That is the killer reason for this language. In the same way Kotlin can use Java.

[@Br4dButt0wski]

Check Nim or Zig if you want modern languages with great C-Cpp interoperability bro.

[@JaskoonerSingh]

@@Br4dButt0wski ok

[@JaskoonerSingh]

@@Br4dButt0wski these languages are like rust, where the interoperability is through the c language, not CPP.

[@clarinetmaster5990]

The interop hasn’t been implemented in the explorer interpreter iirc.

[@tekhiun]

Funny thing is that Kotlin Native also has interop with Cpp , but for reason it didn't took off.

[@thedevnoteyt]

Thanks Brad, you're awesome ❤️🔥

[@Arabian_Abomination]

your username lol, it is the git command :)

[@PlasmaSnake369]

New languages that google came out with have actually seen growth and use cases like dart/flutter and go. So might be useful to learn relatively early on.

[@vanshajdhar9223]

@@20cmusic 🤣🤣🤣🤣, seriously???

[@PlasmaSnake369]

@@20cmusic yeah it's definitely a small segment of the overall industry but there are some businesses who use it

[@emisosa]

Dart and flutter are the most horrible languages I've seen. Go is nice. For simple prototyping. But this is one of the first ones that are not interpreted languages.

[@alexripoll2893]

@@20cmusic Go is being used by many new companies or companies that are refactoring their legacy code. Its use is actually growing quite fast

[@s-guytech9160]

@@emisosa You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.😂😂, Im sure you are a python fan boy.

[@InarusLynx]

Ah takes me back to junior year at college. I took C++ because I liked my first year C class. I liked C++ so much, I used the internet to learn python. Then I wanted to make a Windows app so I learned C#. Then web dev with JavaScript. Now here I am because I heard about Carbon. Full circle. What a ride it's been.

[@Br4dButt0wski]

No need for Carbon, go check Nim and Zig guys. Both have great interoperability with C and C++, both are really fast, both have the "issues" of C and C++. And you will have a lot of fun using them.

[@coolmn786]

I see potential on this, gonna make a few stuff on this

[@michaelshort2388]

to get code highlighting working, change the file extension to ".carb" it still compiles fine but you get code highlighting. :)

[@georgereasonproductions]

enjoyed this very much indeed keep up the good work:)

[@Sadleafsfan]

I can already see the job postings requiring 10 years of Carbon Lang experience

[@codedbyshoe]

If this goes the way that other google languages have gone this will most likely have a great future

[@SaeedAhmed-wl7pb]

Thanks a lot for this great video man !

[@ltc0060]

Carbon seems like what you get if you tried to get cool features of other languages, then mix and mash them together.

[@ivanhale8114]

The extension works if you use .carb as the file extension. It still runs, too

[@Alexithymiander]

Sounds like Carbon isn't actually a new language, but rather an exoskeleton that reinforces proper movement with increased strength.

[@sumitkumarsoni1]

Brad It was a Joke!!! But seriously, You are great, Learnt so much from you and Love your videos ❤

[@cd-stephen]

I appreciate you and your channel

[@jaimedpcaus1]

Great video 👍. So, if this is an experimental Lang. When or how is one to know that it's not experimental any longer?

[@carlosmspk]

They'll likely tag the relase on GitHub as such, followed by numerous blogposts and news mentioning the fact...

[@jaimedpcaus1]

@@carlosmspk Ah. Thx Capuccino.

[@larrytron1992]

I've been looking into it for the last few days, it looks promising but still has a long way to go I'm interested to see how they will extend it if they're going to be a "C++ killer/successor"

[@comichacker]

Please elaborate.

[@V1kToo]

really well covered

[@novailoveyou]

Brad you're the best!

[@jamesbond_007]

Some of the tests DO show the use of relational operators, and they are not marked as failing tests. Still wondering about where that for loop is. I guess if you're coming from C++, all the wordiness of the syntax isn't so bad, but compared with other modern language, the syntax of Carbon leaves a lot to be desired.

[@carlosmspk]

I didn't follow, what was the problem with Carbon's "wordiness"? Compared to other statically typed languages, of course...

[@deejaydev]

C++ is never gonna die

[@Arabian_Abomination]

It is the OG language :)

[@fantasypvp]

Just from the first 5 minutes of the video, I can see that carbon seems like it took a fair bit of inspiration from rust...

[@glumboi9946]

How do u set this up in windows if its even possible?

[@DanielNistrean]

In the beginning I throught that Carbon is trying to adopt Typescript syntax for C++, but it's not, there are differences so this language has no value to me personally.

[@AkashdeepSingh-qq5fw]

12:04 could it be because your file is test.carbon and not test.carb?

[@skyheart9245]

These languages are not solving any important issues. C, C++, Java(including all java technologies) and JavaScript they were targeting issues that led to evolution. It was critical to learn and use.

[@TheLoLStarsChannel]

If these iterative/evolutionary languages are not solving any important issues, then why are so many programmers choosing them? What problems does Typescript address relative to Javascript? Are memory safety and type safety unimportant issues from a technical and even business perspective?

[@skyheart9245]

@@TheLoLStarsChannel There aren’t so many choosing them. Look at top 5! TypeScript is “evolutionary” in your mind? 😂 TypeScript is JavaScript btw. JavaScript had to be there because there had to be a script on html so people HAD to learn it. That’s evolution. Same thing to other languages I mentioned. What you are talking about is minor changes. Kotlin came with some interesting features now Java filled the gap so no point choosing it anymore. Plus no language can replace C/C++ in its domain. Millions of people know it and have lots of experience with it and there is a huge ecosystem of libraries and software around it if you don’t know something there are array of options to find your answers, as a business you won’t risk picking a new language just because it’s easier to do something minor. No problem with new ideas but I’ve seen hundreds of languages within last 12 years none could become popular.

[@TheLoLStarsChannel]

@@skyheart9245 I don't think you understand what the word evolution means. Perhaps you're confusing with revolution/revolutionary? Where do Rust, Go, and Swift fall into this?

[@skyheart9245]

@@TheLoLStarsChannel Good for you that understand it. I’m not here to play with words like you. None of these languages are popular, doesn’t mean no body is using it. Doesn’t mean these are technically bad languages. Swift is only for apple devices, Its not general purposed language. Rust is good but again good language doesn’t mean it will get popular, it’s not essential to learn, because you can do the same with many other languages. PHP is another example, it’s a terrible language but super popular, because it arrived right time and because of that many people started using it. Huge ecosystem around php. There are many languages in the same league as php but could not survive. Good luck

[@TheLoLStarsChannel]

@@skyheart9245 thanks. Good luck to you too friend 🙂

[@huydong3292]

Thank you.

[@adamjones7497]

Pascal case is when you use camel case with the starting character as uppercase.

[@alex_chugaev]

I wish typescript could’ve been compiled for production use.

[@sourandbitter3062]

What, why?

[@alex_chugaev]

@@sourandbitter3062 it has powerful types system, maybe the best among all PLs, but still does not have its own runtime/compiler. Ideally it should support 2 modes: compiled (for max performance) and interpreted (for development convenience). When you’re ready to release you just compile it and get the binary file just like C# for example.

[@marvinabarquez8915]

Will they be monitoring this too? Like, will they be taking snippets of code and clone the code if they determine that the code a dev makes is worthwhile?

[@funnynews341]

i love this channel so much. I learn from them so much. But why they don't make Carsh Course about Rust like backend API with actix and deploy in production

[@khudadatbaluch7884]

thanks, a good one.

[@stiflenthegamer4447]

Heyo, I'm a bit new to this, so forgive me if I seem ignorant; I'm trying to get Carbon set up with Homebrew on my Windows machine, I'm using WSL for that, however when I try to install the required packages with Homebrew, it pauses my installation indefinitely, if I try to go to the URL it's downloading from, I get the error code "UNAUTHORIZED" and the message "authentication required", I'm completely stumped as for what I should do, so any help would be greatly appreciated!

[@GlobalYoung7]

Thank you 😊

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

I don't see how this is cleaner. 1) Why the weird *_var x: f32_* syntax? What is wrong with *_f32 x_* and how is the above cleaner than the below? 2) Why the fn declarator for functions? What does it achieve? 3) Why the weird *_fn add_nums(...) -> f32 { ... }_*? What is wrong with *_f32 add_nums(...) { ... }_*? 4) Why the *_Slice (Circle)_* in function argument and not in *_for_* loop? That seems inconsistent to me. 5) Why the FUCK would you have the *_Print_* function capitalised? That is seriously weird. Unless it is a class, which is even weirder. Edit: It appears it is a convention to uppercase function names. WHY? Edit 2: Because they are supposed to be static. And dynamic names like variables are supposed to be lower_case. Can't agree with that. 6) WHY do you have to use string placeholders like *_Print("{0}", x)_* when you already have *_std::cout

[@theophilus494]

Now I'm confused with the question 😂

[@lack_of_awareness]

They want to be more like rust. C++‘s current syntax is so dogshit they copying rust

[@DotcomL]

For some of the questions, the answer is that it's better for the grammar to be unambiguous. Forward declaring what you're doing with var, let, fn, etc helps on that. std::cout ... Many reasons, but read up on std::format and its advantages.

[@DotcomL]

Curious about const vs let though, haven't found the reasoning for that yet

[@0file0]

The highlighting works but the file ending has to be .carb instead of .carbon in vscode.

[@JuniorBloxHD]

You can also go to settings and add an association for "*.carbon" to "carbon".

[@enfieldli9296]

Heard enough of those 10X years experince with Carbon in hiring memes, let's learn some real solid stuff!

[@ctkqiang]

What about V Lang?

[@hrudayd4217]

Hello @traversymedia Can you please create the videos for SAP UI5? In youtube also no much videos on this framework, Thanks in advance

[@chrisik100]

Why "to kill" C++ or some other PL at all?

[@RohanSaluja-xj8ly]

Hi, I'm on macOS High Sierra and I'm having a hard time setting up the environment. Homebrew doesn't support High Sierra anymore but we can still somehow use it. I tried installing llvm using macPorts, it kinda installed but then I tried using "brew install llvm". All the related dependencies were installed successfully, yet I'm unable to use "llvm-config". And this "bazel run //explorer -- ./test.carbon" does not build successfully. Reflecting error -> llvm-ar not found in PATH or adjacent to clang

[@gabrielmachado5708]

well, if it's just that, why not just supporting zig?

[@dhawalparmar7117]

Hey Traversy media can you make video on spring boot

[@TheMR-777]

17:04 That happens all the time, while working in online editor

[@TheMR-777]

@WhatsApp±1217𝟽𝟻𝟶𝟹𝟹33 Traversy Med 😅

[@zulfiqar7967]

Any idea about doing web 3.0 tutorials and crash course

[@awuk3468]

I think there is a reason why C/C++ has stuck around for so long, one of the reasons in my opinion is it doesn't need replacing. Maybe it would be better calling it a alternative rather than a "successor" to C++, if it had GUI capabilities (Does it?) it might be a good alternative to C++ but I think .NET Core has that covered with .NET MAUI not sure how good / bad it is, or even if it has been released to the wild yet. Although as most things seem to be web orientated I favour the likes of Electron for GUI projects these days.

[@AXYGaming]

You can write gui applications in C and C++ with gtk, qt and imgui. Those would be a better choice than maui and electron in certain cases where performance is vital, like when doing graphics. And they call it a successor because it has interoperability with cpp which alot of other languages also have but it's very annoying to do since cpp mangles function names.

[@capslock3250]

Much better then Rust. I love C-style languages.

[@dunai2012]

Isn't D the C/C++ successor?

[@olaokunade677]

Thank you

[@broccoloodle]

Thank you for the great summary. Looks like carbon is no thing more than a syntactic sugar language. No more no less, the design choice is even worst than other languages

[@mohammadmahdifarnia5358]

I’m not that excited about this language like others because i like C++ for its different syntax. If you wanna print to stdout you should use

[@skatemaster33]

The syntax actually looks like a soup of all the different languages combined and doesn't look consistent at all

[@shreeyashghatpande]

vsc now has Carbon so yay

[@BobDoe_69]

oh no, time to update my cv with "5+ years working with Carbon"

[@taiwoadebola5617]

Brad how do you learn so quickly?

[@teckyify]

Whoever thinks the reason why people don't migrate to other languages or newer languages because they don't want change has absolutely zero clue about what C++ users actually have to deal with or the reasons they use C++

[@Robert-zc8hr]

Meh, I'm not liking the language very much: - Do we have null safety? I'm assuming we don't. - Why do we need to put auto if we're doing duck typing anyway? If you want to copy TypeScript syntax do so properly. - Why the heck do language designers insist in making functions start with an uppercase letter and variables lowerscase? Functions calls can easily be distingished by the (), and when they're being passed around they are just like another variable so they shouldn't use a diferent naming convention. - Touching on naming conventions, why the heck have we inherited inconsistencies from C? If types are supposed to be PascalCase then i32 should be I32. - Touching on inheritance, I don't see it. I mean, is not in the video, does the language support it and how? Is it intentional to not support it? - What about function overloads? - Why a "dot" on the key of an object literal? Unless they have a very solid reason to go against a JSON compatible syntax, they should just use that. - How do we do varargs, spread operator? - What about testing and documentation? - Can we for once agree on a style instead of using linter tools?

[@maidkid]

17:04 he press Ctrl+S by muscle memory lol

[@motaz_ahmed]

There is new think about it?

[@sugy9310]

Well now i have to get 10 years experience on this

[@eddycizeron2533]

What's the point in creating a course for Carbon intended for newcomers in programming? The main audience of this language is (according to its authors) teams that already have huge codebases in C++. The goal is to help them migrate smoothly to a cleaner language. Whether you believe Carbon can achieve this or not, it still means that the intended audience are C++ developers. As a consequence, a valuable presentation should try to expose similarities and differences with C++ (and possibly other languages). In case of differences I would also expect some explanations about what motivated these changes. Of course the creator of this video cannot read in Carbon's author's minds but any guess or suggestions (with all the necessary caveats) would be far more valuable that this sequence of trivialities that focuses on (part of) the syntax and does not even address the motivation behind it.

[@stiflenthegamer4447]

Well even if the targeted demographic is veteran users of C++, I still believe there should be resources such as this specifically for newcomers. I personally have tried learning C++, but never really got around to it, now with Carbon being in the works, I decided I would give it a go instead, so I can atleast say I greatly appreciate videos like this.

[@DoonSafari]

Hi is there a way to send push notifications to 2000+ users with in 2 milli seconds using laravel and react native. Please help me with this or any system design for this module. Thanks

[@Arabian_Abomination]

You probably need an api for that

[@davidg4512]

Tomorrows job post: 5 years of Carbon

[@papa_ethan]

If Carbon can do Web Assembly then great.

[@robypsx]

waiting for the 50 year Carbon experience jobs when Google decides to drop the v0.1

[@abhikbanerjee3719]

Offé. That's 6G speed right there.

[@Arabian_Abomination]

Carbon Fiber internet 😄

[@nvmcomrade]

I hate these hyper abbreviated keywords - fn for function and also primitive types i32 u16 etc.

[@alisherdotdev]

Make new Rust Crash Course please

[@alisherdotdev]

@♜ Pinned by Traversy Media Okay

[@sidforreal]

Hiring Carbon Developers : Min experience 2 year

[@Meritumas]

2y for junior, min 7 for seniors....

[@tipseason]

Carbon language has certainly a refreshing syntax compared to C++. The more you try hands on with it, the more you appreciate the beauty of it. Do you think carbon language will replace C++ ?

[@wizardy6267]

As a firmware developer using c++, kotlin, JS reactnative and python, I can see why Carbon is NOT going to replace c++... it is boring

[@DMSBrian24]

Why use this when Rust exists? It's best not to have corporations in control

[@KejriwalBhakt]

Just a question, why can't the tech giants comes up with syntax like Python and be as fast as CPP? Just curious. What are the bottlenecks? Last I learnt, the thing that makes python slow is duck typing. Make it statistically typed. By now Python has best syntax and readibility. Go comes close second and then JAVA and Javascript. I hate CPP and don't ask why.

[@keelanmccarthy5291]

It's because python is compiled into bytecode that is read by a virtual machine. Python is compiled at runtime... Every language eventually turns into machine code to tell the CPU what to do, Python is not as fast because of a combination of, virtual machine, compiled at runtime and the fact that the less descriptive code is to do compiler, the less efficient the compiler will be at finding the fastest bytecode/machine code to run that program. With python, you trade the speed of the actual program with development time.

[@Robert-zc8hr]

@@keelanmccarthy5291 The question was "why can't the tech giants comes up with syntax like Python and be as fast as CPP? ", you completely missed the point. There is no reason why you can't make a compiled version of Python (e.g. Numba or Cython). Or create a new fast programming language with a syntax similar to python. The issue is that big tech wants to make something familiar, thus following current popularity trends. Although Python is popular in the scientific community, it has almost no market share when it comes to general/systems programming, in that space C++/C#/Java/TypeScript/Rust all use a C-like syntax and combined have almost all market share.

[@QueeeeenZ]

Companies be like "We are looking for a Carbon developer with 10 years of experience"

[@Arabian_Abomination]

And its been out for just 2 years lol

[@legrandtiasma]

@@Arabian_Abomination weeks*

[@Arabian_Abomination]

@@legrandtiasma even less haha

[@n.m4497]

Kinda of ridiculous to do an arrow to specify the type return of a function. Why not put it at the begging

[@edwardkenworthy7013]

That example code at around 1 minute is such a mess.

[@akj7]

4:44 yeah, this guy doesn't know C++. Can you please tell me why this language is better than C++? Rust has clear goals and actually provided new tools to fight what it claimed was wrong. To me Carbon feels like another project made by bored Google devs. There are so many questions that people don't address, like: 1. How does Carbon handle versioning? C and C++ have locked versions enabling the use of old versions for dedicated hardwares. 2. How does it manage multreading when creating one from an embedded C++ code. 3. How does it interop with compiled binaries written in C or C++? 4. What are the costs of using Carbon (RAM, CPU)?

[@MrZapper1960]

This better not blow up with the standard lib using the google style guide

[@techpriest4787]

But if Carbon can not do better C++ interop than Rust. Then it is another Rust. Except that Rust at this point is far ahead of Carbon. In other words: People need to stop viewing Rust as a replacement for C only. I did not replace C. I replaced my C#/F# code. GLSL and HLSL is next.

[@MattPryze]

Yeah seems like more typing to get the same thing.

[@Alphabet_-_]

Successor ? No...

[@Arabian_Abomination]

Is this the official account? 😆

[@yourfuture1265]

please do a video combining codeigniter and react.js

[@pett22v20]

cool new language, too bad all of the jobs already require 8-10 years experience in carbon

[@atticus2581]

this video is going to get so many views lmfao

[@dr.palsonp.h.d815]

what a overly verbose languguage... doesn't even have an overloaded Print(), Looks like a JS version of C, will stick to cpp...

[@MehmeterTem5534]

Generic type about more video pls.

[@fredhair]

Another language jumping on the bandwagon providing no real benefits. No reason to use it yet or the forseeable future imo. C++ will not be dying out and I can't see it getting replaced. D has existed as a decent alternative for some time but C++ has seen some pretty good improvements in the last 11 years. What I'd really like to see is better toolchains i.e. decent multiplatform dependency managers and centralized repository support but that's probably never going to happen.

[@HyyskanPolttaja]

Do we really need yet another statically typed language littered with semicolons and square brackets?

[@linus2730]

Found the python dev

[@navjotsingh2251]

Haha, if you hate this then you are gonna hate lisp/scheme 😅

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[@CProgrammingLanguageCodes]

It is more marketing than a viable language. Carbon, like the previous versions, seems to have been designed by technicians, for technicians and not for programmers, even less for system programmers. Any language that does not use some relevant and aesthetic reserved words does not pass the test of time. No serious programmer would waste his time typing "fn" or scrolling through codes with such unsightly terms.

[@rallokkcaz]

wtf does anything you said mean

[@amazekhashaa7309]

give me a reason to use carbon

[@MiChEaLaDeNuGa-oj6wb]

c++