Traxxas Fanboys you are Wrong.

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[@TomleyRC]

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[@GMCOGRE]

where did you get the diff guards? cant find them anywhere.

[@JamieVauxnut1]

Are these available to ship to the UK from FMS , as it seems they won't ship to Glasgow?

[@deathbydeviceable]

Idk why people complain about "copying" You can only reinvent the wheel so many times but at the end of the day its just a wheel

[@sharkey9]

Well Canada made their wheels square, that is innovative!

[@TheActionBastard]

@@sharkey9 I imagine they have some... development hiccups.

[@underarockandstuff]

As is tradition ​@@sharkey9

[@aviatoFPV]

Intellectual property is for entities suffering from intellectual scarcity

[@spike--]

I guarantee you. If you invent something and someone stole your ideas. You wouldn't be saying that.

[@traviscoombes3578]

Up to 1974, Blazers had a removable roof that went up to the windshield. 1975 and newer, the roof came off up to the cab.

[@GMCOGRE]

1976 was the first year for the half cab.

[@traviscoombes3578]

@@GMCOGRE you are right. I thought they started in 75, but it was 76. Thank you for the correction. All I know is I had a 74 that I wish I still had.

[@GMCOGRE]

@@traviscoombes3578yeah, mine was a GMC jimmy but still the same truck, i still hate i got rid of it, damn thing was like a mt goat, went everywhere i pointed it.

[@muskokamike127]

how can you say they're not clones!! they both have electric motors and controlled by wireless radios!! ree ree ree! hahaha

[@TomleyRC]

And wheels! Damn it!

[@spinelessmoderate8715]

​@TomleyRC especially the wheels! 4 for each crawler? C'mon, it's obvious!

[@TomleyRC]

haha

[@cyborgbadger1015]

yeah fancy FMS ripping off the 4 wheel design of the TRX blatant!@@TomleyRC

[@1521joe]

@@TomleyRC total clone.

[@Casitascrawlers]

Yep FMS hit a nerve with the Traxxas fan boys that right there tells you it’s a threat to them 😂🙌

[@TomleyRC]

😅

[@jgrc73]

check out Traxxas sales number sometime. it's not a threat to Traxxas in any meaningful way it's an option for buyers. People should look at this the other way. this truck has ideas and features that other manufacturers will integrate soon specifically turn signals and magnet light connectors. those are both really cool innovations that will be integrated in other manufacturers future models guaranteed but Traxxas is not gonna introduce an 11 channel radio neither is Horizon and if you wanna really cool unique unreliable and strange looking krawler with 1 billion features this is your guy

[@moutwtrng]

Yep these stupid Traxxas fanboys don't understand that having competition is the best for the future of rc's and makes these manufacturers compete which is better for us consumers and better for our wallets!

[@seansullivan3795]

I like that you're not afraid to call BS on other channel reviews, even if it's your friend's. Matt really beat that one up....i thought it was pretty weird.

[@TomleyRC]

I’ve told him if he does a follow up, he needs to find 19 or more things that are the same 😅

[@scalebuildersguild]

Why weird? I don’t like overcomplicated trucks, TRX4 full function included. Additionally, if yours broke on the first run, you’d probably tell people too. 😂

[@boduke9428]

​@@scalebuildersguildmy Xmaxx came out of the box with a defective servo. My buddies Maxx came with a defective esc. Neither one ever worked the first time to make a first drive. Stuff happens. Nobody or no thing has 100% success. Even the expensive stuff is made as cheap as possible. I bet even those plain Jane Vanquish trucks break occasionally. I appreciate a manufacturer who passes some of that savings on down the line and give them a little more leeway on quality issues.

[@louaieayyash5158]

​@@scalebuildersguildI'm particularly new to your channel, but I really like and appreciate the work you do, i was waiting for your fms k10 video as i knew you had some interesting things to say, I wish you would do more side to side comparisons with the trx4 as u were reviewing the FMs, im also a huge fan of tomleys videos and this was the kind of video i was expecting to further clarify the exact differences between the 2 in detail and also from a visual perspective. I'm surprised there haven't been more comparison videos between the two, especially if some claim that they're very similar!

[@xtrmbeast]

@@TomleyRCfriends love :DDD

[@davidives7204]

I love the extra styling you have given the Black version; it looks and crawls so well.

[@ronnyweinreich9425]

I have a FMS FMT24 and I'm really impressed by the performance and quality. 👌 The only downside is the availability on spare parts here in Germany.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, they perform well

[@Pablo668]

Sigh, I feel your pain Phil. Basically over time the designs of anything get pared down to the most effective solutions. As you said, it's why so many designs in RC are broadly similar to each other. The differences end up being in the smaller things. And those FMS trucks are nice/perform well btw.

[@nj2033]

Axle mounted servo! Happy with that!! No idea why you'd want the servo weight higher than it needs to be on a crawler

[@JT-np1op]

The preference is based on scale competition rules. CMS basically forces the suspension design to follow real life counter part. In scale rc competition CMS class is considered more difficult than AMS. Hopefully you understand why there are 2 different preferences now.

[@Omnitermniator]

I’ve tried and tested (almost) every RC KZbin channel and really I can’t find a more effective channel, Beyond RC is the only other channel I even think is worth watching for a review. Great work and I think the even 182K subscribers is underrated! Another great video to add to the collection😂❤.

[@marxnex71]

I’ll be honest, I love my TRX4s. Yes, I am a bit of a Traxxas fan boy. But that FMS is mwaa (chefs kiss). Especially how you’ve made it all black. I also love the warmer coloured headlights. Cracking job Phil. 👍🏻👏🏻

[@Sol-hl2rj]

Well done! It’s not a clone, it’s an evolution😉 Phil, can you do a test of it set up with the RWD/4WD option? It will be more fun for the bashing part, but also disengaging the front axle will mimic a center differential.. so for tighter turns in not too steep terrain it should be more manoeuvrable with better turning. Thanks for keeping up with us😅

[@TomleyRC]

Yes… they took the TRX4 and made it better 😇

[@sorenmay5630]

@@TomleyRCwhen fms has aftermarket support like any traxxas vehicle maybe I’d agree

[@annasoming]

if you take the chassis and link geometry... are they the same? these have a significant impact on how everything else fits in it and especially on its performance.

[@GMCOGRE]

i picked up some connectors off amazon to make adapters to run my traxxas batts in this. also, what is the extended pigtail with the capacitor for that came with this ?

[@RoostedFilms]

I like the FMS version & really 399 isn't a bad price for a capable crawler. I've seen a few bits I don't like but they do sell fixes & I believe FMS will be able to keep up with the demand for spares. When I buy outside the horizon & Traxxas bubble I think FMS would be a decent buy.

[@MechanicallyFun]

What happen to the Peter pointer sound effect? I miss that on this vid😂. We want it back🤣

[@TomleyRC]

Oh.. forgot haha

[@midge148]

@@TomleyRCunsubbing unless you get two pointer honks in on next vid 😁👍

[@TomleyRC]

haha

[@WheelsRC]

Amazing, what a good set of tyres can do to improve a rig.

[@mikemartin6857]

My first rc was one of the smaller fms units I ordered from Amazon and I was so stoked!! I got It on a Sunday waited for the battery to fully charge while I finished the football game then get outside and after 3 mins of run time it broke. A small weed wrapped around the back wheel put it in a a bind and snapped the rear drive shaft 🤔 Next day I took it to my locally hobby shop and the guy informed they didn't carry parts for them and called it toy grade not hobby. He recommended I send it back and come buy a traxxas trx4m from them.... which I did and I haven't looked back!! I absolutely love traxxas products..... I have 2 trx4m units... a trx4 high trail k/5 blazer "70s body style" a new rustler 4x4 bls-2...a granite grom and I just got my new arrma 3s big rock in today 😀 Traxxas and Arrma are som eof the best brands in rc I my opinion 💯

[@scaleworksRC]

Pretty cool comparison! Crawling is just a different kind of fun. If I'm paying $700+ for an RC though, I'm saving a few more dollars for the D1RC Defender.

[@BrendonakaShanks]

If I buy anymore RC's, I would not have money for my other projects, lol. I'll just enjoy the reviews. Thanks mate, this is a good one.

[@TaurusPresents]

Good explanation of the differences. 👍 There are many cars that look very similar from a distance and yet are often completely different. Every brand has its own style and qualities. Although I am quite a fan of Traxxas, I always notice with many other brands how much extra you get as standard for less money. With Traxxas you usually have to change your wallet again to obtain all the upgrades that are needed.

[@joshuatzonfortheslaughter]

You are correct sir. They are two different generation K5's as far as the bodies are concerned. The only thing I cannot recall is which year K5 had the turn indicators in the bumper? From at least 1977-89, if memory serves me correctly, the signal lights were always just below the headlights. Regardless, both units look pretty good.

[@adam_mawz_maas]

Traxxas is a 69-72 1st gen model. FMS is a 76+ 2nd gen model.

[@brentwhite1791]

Happy that you are showing the differences!! Awesome comparison. 👍🏻😁

[@charlesking2340]

Another great review/comparison. There’s absolutely NO WAY for different manufacturers to make “similar” vehicles without some type of “like” items but these two are NOT the same. Similar yes, same NO! As usual FMS steps up where Traxxas stays stagnant. I own many Traxxas and like them but I’m glad to see FMS stepping up to offer stock features affordable vs the ultra high upgrades offered by Traxxas and others. Hopefully this gets more people involved back into the RC car industry (unlike during Covid where isolation drove the market but then people fall out of the RC game as the world started turning again) for keeps as there are more affordable, and just as good if not better, options becoming available.

[@defiantfury7109]

They are totally different

[@behzodaxmadiyorov9149]

Does anyone know if paddle tires can be used on concrete? Is there any harm to the model when used on concrete?

[@jonthomas8487]

For me I’m a fan of having competition. I’ve had my best experiences with Traxxas for trucks and Kyosho for buggies, but here in the US a full function TRX4 (Bronco) non high Trail is $499 shipping included less tax. The FMS is $449 shipping included less tax. The FMS direct $399 price does not include shipping. For $50 more personally I’d pay that extra to have the ability to go to my local hobby shop to buy any part vs waiting 3-4 days+ for FMS to ship me parts. They may be better in UK

[@GMCOGRE]

i didnt have to pay shipping for mine, odd. got the truck and offroad bumper and it was $404.98 total.

[@4saken404]

Not sure if it is relevant to the "copy" aspect but the suspension on the FMS seems sooooo much better just from watching you handle it. Is it stock?

[@OkieDokieBoi]

I own two TRX4's and a TRX6. I also have this FMS. I can tell you that this FMS is loads better in every way. And yes, the shocks are so much better and smoother than the praised TRX4 shocks, and they flex more being 100mm! Needless to say, I won't be purchasing another TRX4. There is nothing needing done to the FMS except wheels, and brass internal rings in the fronts. It could also benefit with even just a tad bit more weight on the front axle to become a pure monster. I'm waiting for some black brass front outer portal covers or steering knuckles to be available. And that will be absolutely it!

[@carltruva8872]

I like how you blacked out the fms blazer.. Great comparison

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, looks so cool 👌

[@HorslONE]

Where did you get the diffprotection from?

[@brianlynch4801]

Everyone complains about how dim the FMS lights are but I'm here to tell you as a person from the 70s all lights on those vehicles were dim. Bad grounds😂

[@brianlynch4801]

You can't compare an 1157 bulb against the current LED bulbs

[@dankforest]

i want to see a best of trail trucks vid featuring all of the competition out there now. it would be a banger vid.

[@tepidwheelsRC]

Two different scale models of the same real car look similar?! How completely outrageous! I must form an angry mob

[@alanq64]

I picked up mine here in the states for 399. Free shipping. Where did you get the servo guards? I didn't see them on the website.

[@OkieDokieBoi]

They are an excellent investment, A MUST! I just checked so I could link you the part, but they must be out of stock, as I no longer see them, either. I got lucky to have snagged two sets. They are a must, imo, esp if you have gnarly and jagged terrain. Those and the metal driveshafts (which are really heavy), are a very nice touch.

[@chucksrchabit.7671]

Knew I should have got the black. I went with the brown one. Just did the 2wd mod on it. Video soon. Looks awesome bud.

[@andrewhopper8700]

Hi mate what crawler should I get for £300?

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome comparison, Phil! Thanks!!! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude. Just trying to give people a bit more info

[@jaymyers9899]

That black on black and them wheels gawd ❤🤤🤤

[@shaunodriscoll]

That’s all very well and good but, where’s the £30,000 truck smash up?…. Oh hang on a minute wrong channel 😂😂😂 nice vid! 😂😂

[@TomleyRC]

😅

[@JamieVauxnut1]

Are these available to ship from FMS to the UK as it seems they won't deliver to Glasgow ? 🤔

[@joshfowler197]

The all black looked so much better. For some readson the bright colors makes the body look off when ot comes to thr dimensions

[@Wainfleetrccrawlers]

Tell it how it is Tomley👍👍 I have had two trx4's and both never worked right out of the box 😞 my fcx10 perfect. 🥳🥳

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, the servos seem to be the weak point. One of my favourites is the Element Enduro SE… just a simple crawler with no frills

[@d_n_r_rc_racing2449]

Funny....both of my trx4s work perfectly. 2 years on my 79 bronco with stock motor and esc and almost a year on my k10 high trail that also has stock motor and esc.

[@jakeclauson9863]

Even tho thier both in the same class its good to see them next to eachother. Its hard to get an idea of scale just from looking at pictures.

[@scalebuildersguild]

Great comparison Phil! There’s no denying the similarities or where they got their inspiration from. Regardless, looks, performance, reliability, parts support, that’s the real difference between the two. 😅 I’d love to see FMS do a simplified version, without all the additional bells and whistles!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I somewhat agree. And as for Looks, Performance, Reliability & Parts support.... I'd say Parts support is the only one Traxxas has in the bag. My 'New'... TRX4 High Trail's steering servo has stopped working after 2 runs, and if the shift servos are still the same as they used in the Summit, then I can't say they'll out last the competition anytime soon, so 'reliability' is certainly questionable. Anyway... both are great Trucks, and the FMS for the money is really good. I'll look forward to your follow up with the 19 things the same haha

[@110RCSCALETALES]

Fms has just as good support here in the UK , I would argue more reliable than the TRX too

[@scalebuildersguild]

@@110RCSCALETALES Interesting, you can just walk into a hobby shop and they've got parts in stock? Fantastic!

[@scalebuildersguild]

@@TomleyRC I think we'll all be able to anecdotally have evidence to support any reliability claim, long term testing is the only way to truly measure it. All's good though, can't wait to share some additional findings with you. 😘

[@110RCSCALETALES]

@@scalebuildersguild no not really, but most parts available online from uk stockists .

[@bionichobbit]

Trx 4 has a cult like following and anything that comes along to challenge it ( let’s face it that’s not hard ) will always get this type of response. If you want a rig that you have to spend huge amounts of money on brass before it’s any good then be my guest. Great vid well done.

[@Cars_crazy29]

I would say that it is a compliment, calling something a trx4 copy!

[@mikemangiameli561]

Glad to see you named your pointer stick now all it needs is a tie lol

[@TomleyRC]

Haha.. maybe I’ll 3D print one 😅

[@mikemangiameli561]

@@TomleyRC a bow tie might work

[@TheBigstoned1]

every single rc company looks at what works in other makers designs borrows elements makes slight design changes then implements them into their model, even the rc hobbyist borrow parts and bodyshells from other models to make them work better or look similar to others, all i can say is i couldn't care less even if it was a slight copy/clone, i thank god for the cheaper makes because if it wasn't for them i wouldn't be able to afford to have a hobby, do we all moan about the clearl...possibly copied spare parts you can buy on discount sites or do we just buy them anyway because they're a ton cheaper than oem and um mostly work?

[@TomleyRC]

I agree… it’s in pretty much every industry. There’s a point you get to where innovation can only get so far…. Portal axles on full size trucks gave the design for them on an RC Crawler.. if you change the design too much, they aren’t gonna function correctly. People forget that these toys we play with get a lot of there components from their 1:1 counterpart

[@LigmaJohnson-cf2ty]

Being an engineer that is how you reverse engineer. Looks different on the outside then sell at a lower price for a loss until you secure your market share think wallmart,amazon. Im not saying I agree with traxxas and it's business model. Competition is good.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes agree… but let’s not forget these crawlers are just ‘reverse engineered’ 1:1 scales in most cases 👌

[@yourtubisfilled7164]

'A boddehs a boddeh innit?' **carefully jots down the new pick-up line**

[@kennethrobinson9008]

Thanks for the correct unbiased review. FMS knocked it out. Nice to have options.

[@RyanSantos-cn5ij]

Awesome, Cheaper, Reliable. Better than Traxxas...

[@TheRCBuildersPost]

It's definitely not a clone. They may have gotten some of their ideas from the TRX 4 but that's how this hobby is. I'm an Element fan boy but can tell you that the element lineup is based off of the 10.2. Vanquish? Also based off the 10.2! No one talks about that 😂

[@Techie_ASMR]

Can you make a video about 4 links suspension and 3 link with pan hard and see what s better. ?

[@OkieDokieBoi]

4 link servo on axle (SOA) every time. Lower servo mount lowers center of gravity and puts the weight of the servo directly on the axle, below the springs where you want any weight. Also, better, equal steering left to right and doesn't bump steer or lean the rig while steering like the 3-link with panhard does. Everything is sturdier and stays in line with 4-link SOA. I hope this helps

[@Techie_ASMR]

yes it does. thank you so much brother. @@OkieDokieBoi

[@OkieDokieBoi]

@@Techie_ASMR not a problem. You're very welcome, my friend. 👊

[@WoolstyRC]

I feel like this was a little dig at matt 😂😂 but I have to agree even though watching his video I thought the axles looked the same but now you've shown in abit more detail you can see the differences and the trx looks like it has slightly more clearance 👊🏼🤙🏼💨💨

[@TomleyRC]

I speak to Matt quite a lot. And I’d already started this video before he’d published his

[@WoolstyRC]

@@TomleyRC ye I know you 2 talk that's why I thought it was towards him as abit of friendly banter 😅

[@Patrick-xp6vs]

Yes Tomley, you are right. it is not a traxas clone. The design of certain parts is slightly based on that of the Traxas. still it's not a clone. once again a great video 👍✌

[@basementracer7622]

Nice job mate, glad you did this. Thanks.

[@iflyrcmike]

Yay a 11 minute infomercial for your raffle - nice comparison.

[@TomleyRC]

Free one next, nobody will complain about that ;)

[@madjh8]

Well, the Traxxas has a bit more quality, the body is more detailed, I like more how it is the system, links etc. The quality of the light system of the traxxas is over the average, same functins than other chenese but better construction. The other is a chinese RC car imported direct to UK and it is a cheaper option. If I go to mud etc I would choose the cheap option, If I whant to upgrade and have a nice RC car I will go for the traxxas.

[@user-ci2sw1oy5r]

WPL c 74 jimny review plz. By the way, love your videos.

[@arronjones6985]

I know where my money would go! FM's is so nice. Especially your black on black version

[@sebastafari]

outstanding episode, like always. I would love to see your revision of the HG4-52 Toyota. Cheers!!!

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

Well said Phil! I agree 100%! Got it! ☕️

[@rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide]

I like chrome but the murdered black chevvy does look ace, you nearly forgot the difference of the traxxas toy grade windows also you forgot the other one, the traxxas servo`s die after a few runs..........can i ask again what camera you use for outdoor filming, have you thought about doing a video "how you film"

[@TomleyRC]

My TRX4 servo is actually on the way out from the ‘dog toy’ video. That’s only it’s 2nd run… and all my Summit ones have died at least once… although that wasn’t the purpose of this video, and it would have triggered way more fanboys 😅. I’m planning a how too on my second channel 👍

[@alans4281]

Well done mate. The FMS is $450 on special in Australia the trx is never on special and sells for $1150 Australian dollars. I think we all should know who you are talking about, if you don’t want to name names that’s fine. Will you be reviewing a Vanquish clone anytime soon?

[@albertkelly7129]

What, where? Its not available here yet till April supposedly?

[@crazymo8251]

Just entered the raffle would really like one of these

[@vles007]

Music during the crawl sounded like something straight out of Starfield lol

[@jonas852]

have to say i like the FMS car better just becus i like that year of chevy better. dont know how part support for fms is in sweden but totaly going to take a look on them

[@GMCOGRE]

traxxas has the same year blazer, just not a high trail version, my son has it., they do have a pickup in square body in high trail though.

[@GMCOGRE]

if you had the correct trx4 this would be better. the one you need isnt the high trail but the '79 blazer from traxxas. by the way, the grills on them both designate them as 1979 blazers, maybe thats why people think this is a clone of the traxxas one. i have the high trail and my son has the '79, and i just got the fms one, took them over 2 1/2 weeks to get it to me. we both also have the fcx24 blazers which also have the '79 grill.

[@shaynejenkins446]

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[@nikoncan]

Hi thanks for your videos and please keep presenting the way you do. I personally am really fed up with the style of, in particular one presenter, and I am avoiding whenever possible.

[@joonyoungie]

The POINTERS NAME IS PETER! I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS EXCITES ME...

[@TomleyRC]

🤣🤣

[@myharryface]

Did the Ford Mustang define a new class or is the Chevy Camaro a copy/clone? It’s nearly 60 years later and “they” are still debating that.

[@AnthonyELombardi]

Their similar the parts/components look similar to one another with the exception of a few features

[@mahedertaye4201]

Thanks but i can't 😊.

[@philippegauvin4127]

Very glad you made this video. The SBG review was making me go mad the way he was being so critical with such made up complaints. It was driving me crazy. I figured he has something out for the Chinese brands and has very close ties with the American ones 😅

[@havn2muchfun]

So because he told the truth of HIS experience and feelings he’s got something against them? Yeah, who’s the biased one here.

[@user-nz4pj7zh2i]

@@havn2muchfun traxxas will drop him if he doesn't say nice things

[@havn2muchfun]

You mean like when the Trx first came out and he said he didn’t like all the extra stuff and preferred the basic sport version without all those features? And still says that today? But I’m sure you have some very reliable inside info nobody else does. Or again, you don’t like his opinion so he must be wrong and a shill for anyone but FMS. Lol

[@McRcFly]

I think i figured out why Sbg hated on the fms.... he didnt get the k10 for the first round of reviews... that pissed him off so when he finally got it he was mean to it. 😥

[@user-ow9zt2tb9d]

The fms models are here to stay....it looks great

[@TheShopMiniRC]

Thank you. I had to shut that shit down in my deep dive fcx10 review. I also deal with it daily in my Facebook groups… ugh… fan boys.

[@shaynejenkins446]

sounds fan boyish

[@TheShopMiniRC]

@@shaynejenkins446 lmao. Hardly my dude. Shutting down fan boys doesn’t make someone a fan boy.

[@lolgeen]

ya it is just enough to get no copyrightstrike 🤣🤪

[@TomleyRC]

😅

[@Mike_and_Life]

I'm sorry Mr. Tomley, but it takes 20 differences to prove they're not the same (with corresponding bell chimes). Seeing how there are only 19, they're clearly identical.

[@TomleyRC]

Hahahaha

[@beanbag4982]

Why do companies only make k5 blazer bodies? There’s some other nice gens like the 92-94 full size blazers

[@GMCOGRE]

chevy stopped making blazers (full size) in '92, but that was just a tahoe before the rename, last actual blazer with a removable top was 1991.

[@charleshurley8927]

You forgot the fms has an adjustable drag brake from a channel on the transmitter

[@albertkelly7129]

and counter rotating drive shafts. the thing is engineered deep and absolutely loaded!

[@V8chump]

Wow that fcx body looks really good. I really like the trx scale bodies but sweet baby Jesus they’re DUMB EXPENSIVE

[@caststhrowsbladespews]

Well, we all know it couldn't be a copy/clone... because we would have already heard about the law suit if it was. 😂

[@spencertoth9526]

I mean they made slight changes of course but general design is surely a copy of the trx4 lol I mean it looks more a trx4 than an SCX10, trail finder, or enduro no ? let’s see which one can be bashed harder, durability test!

[@TomleyRC]

More than slight changes.. it’s obviously using the TRX4 as abase for its design, but when you sit them side by side, nothing is the same, just the functions are. Only so much you can do with portals and servos etc…

[@derrickwilliams2903]

I don't think anyone is saying the FCX10 is a 1:1 copy of the TRX4. However, it is so similar that you could call it a copy. There is little to no chance FMS would have come to those design conclusions without the existence of the TRX4. Spending 10 minutes proving the FCX10 isn't a literal copy is a waste of time, but thanks I guess? Call it a copy or "heavily inspired". I don't think it matters. There aren't a lot of revolutionary ideas in RC. Most are derivative. It's that iterative/derivative process that allows the hobby to move forward. If Traxxas owners want to be upset, maybe they should direct those feelings toward Traxxas themselves who haven't come out with a new trail truck platform in 7 years.

[@loadsamtube]

FMS is great! Their products always give us surprise!

[@rcinhand9671]

You could say the FMS is one the answer to the Traxxas.

[@robg3836]

Chassis support the same only different shape

[@mangler.m4950]

I will not claim it’s a clone but, Clipless body and locking diffs, I think, didn’t exist until Traxxas. I could be wrong but I can’t think of anything else. I think Axial started the dig function or at least Axial made it a popular option. At this point, if FMS “cloned” anyone, they cloned everyone. The only thing I can I think of is unique on the market is the Vanquish Phoenix VS410 with the remote switchable overdrive and the Element Gatekeeper/Ecto trailing arm design.

[@TomleyRC]

My 2005 Hilux had remote locking Diffs... so Traxxas must have copied that :)

[@mangler.m4950]

@@TomleyRC yes but aren’t all RC cars technically a clone of real cars/trucks/ 10x10 Russian tank trains.

[@TomleyRC]

@@mangler.m4950 yes, that's my point. So to say FMS copied Traxxas is wrong... because they all copied 1:1's :)

[@mangler.m4950]

@@TomleyRC To be fair, I am agreeing with you that it is not a clone. I am not defending the claim that it is a clone. I’m only saying Traxxas may have been the first to have those features in an RC car. Remote Locking diffs were in the Summit way before the trx4 and Clipless body started on the XMaxx or maybe the ERevo 2.0. The FMS is a pretty cool truck and has a hell of a price. If I was starting fresh and wanted a crawler, it would be a toss up between the FMS and the new Redcat Ascent Fusion.

[@jasonice1584]

I don't mind buying clones if it's quality built and I get a really good deal

[@OneLoveRC]

Hahahaha great review FMS is really hitting it hard with amazing products I totally dig what they are doing

[@albertkelly7129]

i see what you dig there

[@RADIOACTIVE2000]

There are many rc vehicles that are similar to or copies of each other; it is a moot point.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, you can’t keep inventing the wheel

[@Zack_G_E]

Wow, I didn't realize how much you guys have to pay for a trx4. I love my 79 Bronco one, but i wouldn't have gotten it if it was that much lol .

[@mr.steve017]

Hey Tom do you remember when we were kids and use to stick a playing cards in are spokes to make a simulate the sound of a motor? Can you try this in a rc truck. Not with a card per say but maybe with another motor inside a soda can hitting against something inside the can to simulate the sound of a motor.

[@Slow_PEV]

I have fms and traxxas but still catch shit from Traxxas haters just for showing my rig that ive put alot of time and money into. I love that rc is popping still. Maybe the drama is good for views.

[@tobydyes]

one's higher ones lower

[@FeralRC]

Definitely not a clone but heavily influenced which I can definitely appreciate. Trx4 is an excellent platform. I have one as well as a few clones and they're all a blast.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, they are decent.. just a little expensive

[@Slikx666]

Of course it's a copy, they both move forward and back, the front wheels steer and they both climb over rocks! 😆

[@TomleyRC]

😅

[@GMCOGRE]

high trail is a 1971