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This interview was conducted at the Empire concert Club on the occasion of the fourth time Nine Inch Nails played Cleveland. Their first show was at the Phantasy Night Club, the second at the Phantasy Theatre opening for Jesus & Mary Chain, the third at the Phantasy Theatre opening for Peter Murphy and the fourth as headliner at Empire. I'm proud to have been one of the first media outlets to have promoted this excellent band 25 years ago with the release of their debut album 'Pretty Hate Machine.' I knew how big they were going to be from the very first note of the first demo disc I received, 'Down In It' and I featured them on more than one occasion on VidMag TV.