Triad Pairs - Part 1 - Jazz Guitar Lesson

[@JensLarsen]

If you want to really go deep with some triads on a Jazz Standard then check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpeuaYifg6mWnsU

[@antonra7009]

Man, you are a great human being for making these lessons. It's people like you who make the world a better place!

[@JensLarsen]

+Anton Chehov Thank you Anton!

[@michaelcraig9449]

Jens is a rock star!

[@nonamed_9407]

this exercise is superb! When you practice it in every single position, combination and form, It will really pumps up your triad understanding, and you general knowledge of the neck and major scale .... and it does it fast!. When you had master it you'll become a triad god. I can't highlight its importance enough I wish I'd practiced this earlier in my life. It would'd saved me many hours of unefficient exercises.

[@JensLarsen]

Great that you can use it! Don't get too lost in all the combinations, that can sometimes be a waste of time on guitar.

[@nicolosmoffitt]

Thank you thank you! The only video that actually explains it correctly on you tube! Thanks 😊

[@JensLarsen]

Glad it was helpful!

[@f33fifofum]

Jens I know this video was a long time ago and that you have made many, many since but I wanted to thank you for such consistently good instruction. You've helped make me a much better guitar player.

[@JensLarsen]

Thank you very much Mark! That is really great to hear 🙂

[@guilhermecaruciodasilva9287]

You're always awesome, Jens ! Thanks for the class

[@JensLarsen]

Thank you Guilherme! 🙂

[@robertbrooks8551]

Mr. Larsen, I just wanted to say thank you for what your doing.Im a blues rock style guitar player,been playing a long time,with minimal amount of music theory.I used to give my dad crap for listening to jazz. He told me one day when I matured, I would,I guess he was right!I Everything with playing guitar came pretty easy to me,learning scales and modes and how they work and stuff,but jazz has me totally baffled! It seems so complex, i love how it sounds , but not a clue of what's going on,over the simplest line.Anyway I been watching you and feel like, im starting to get my feet wet. Thanks again Jens,keep um comin!

[@JensLarsen]

Thank you Robert! I didn't get into jazz right away! I can't tell for sure, but maybe Triad Pairs is not the place you want to start though? But that really depends on where you are at 🙂 Glad you like the video! Don't be afraid to ask if anything is unclear!

[@robertbrooks8551]

Ok,I'm starting with Autumn leaves chords and arpeggios, I thought I was good on my guitfiddle, till I tried wrapping my head around jazz😁 it's been very humbling.Seems like I'm doing school work,! So I spend four hours on your lessons, then I just play to make myself feel like I still know how to play. I play rock music, and I hit a wall when it comes to solos. I want to learn how to jazz up my blues, so I don't sound like everyone else! Thanks for getting back to me, I'll be checking in daily.You da man!

[@JensLarsen]

Just stay with it Robert! You will get there. It's good to sit down and get to the first standard and then the next one will be easier! You could of course also start checking out Jazz Blues since you are very familiar with the form: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKPTgGqirrGSeLM

[@plopzoppers3921]

Vintage Jens. Your videos span the ages!

[@JensLarsen]

Haha! Well.. at least until I start remaking them :)

[@JamesScottGuitar]

Nicely done, Sir! It amazes me how little attention is given to Triads, and Triad Study. It's the foundation of all music. I hope your subscribers are paying attention because you just did a huge favor for them. ; )

[@JensLarsen]

+JamesScottGuitar Thanks James, given the amount of lessons I made on triads I think my subscribers are aware of them. This is the 9th lesson in that playlist :)

[@JamesScottGuitar]

Jens Larsen Ha! AWESOME!!!

[@MeinFiesesEgo999]

Thanks for your inspiration and your lessons.

[@JensLarsen]

+MeinFiesesEgo999 You're very welcome! :)

[@chatrifreespirit9094]

Thank you for offering your profound insights! You're such a nice person, and of course, I'm one of your subscribers!

[@JensLarsen]

+Chatri Free Dreamer You are very welcome!

[@PAF.69]

Thanks Jens for help us. Nice lesson

[@JensLarsen]

You're very welcome Pedro!

[@jamjar4553]

So grateful for this lesson:D i watched some brass players take on this matter and now i luckily ended up here:) thanks mate

[@JensLarsen]

You're welcome! I am glad you found it useful!

[@zpguitar1]

This is a great lesson Jens! Thank you very much. I love the sound triad pairs creates. I've been improvising for a long time but this is new to me and it creates some really fresh sounds to my ears. Really appreciate it. :)

[@torindavies1176]

I like the tone of this guitar the most, out of all the guitars I've heard you Play! :)

[@JensLarsen]

That's nice! it actually has 6 year old strings on it in this video 🙂

[@Blackgrass1]

@@JensLarsen ...and that's the secret 😉

[@SabatoMorretta]

Interesting!

[@JensLarsen]

Thank you 🙂

[@jimkangas4176]

Nice job. I was a little surprised at how difficult it was for me to find those 2nd inversion triads in Ex 4. Good stuff for me.

[@JensLarsen]

+Jim Kangas Thank you Jim! I remember having exactly that experience the first time I tried to play a scale postition in diatonic 1st inversion triads :D

[@downhill240]

I'm just discovered Triad pairs so this is over my head but I still picked up some good stuff and I'll be back for maore on this channel!

[@JensLarsen]

+downhill240 Thanks man!

[@JensLarsen]

+downhill240 Thanks man!

[@geckobaldy]

Another super lesson thanks. That guitar is gorgeous. Could it be a '49?

[@JensLarsen]

Thank you! It is a '52 ES175 :)

[@geckobaldy]

@@JensLarsen I have a budget es125 lookalike for which I've ordered(in the UK) a repro early p90, low wind, A3 mag, unpotted. It's quarter the price of the guitar! The maker sent me the wrong one yesterday so I'm waiting for the replacement! Hopefully It'll be worth it. Cheers.

[@JensLarsen]

@@geckobaldy great! Good luck with it 🙂 👍

[@Eliasmdawwar1]

you are amazing!!!!! thank you so much!

[@JensLarsen]

+Elias Mdawwar You're very welcome Elias!

[@musicalexcursions]

Good ides. Thank you.

[@JensLarsen]

Thank you! I am glad you can use the videos! If you have any questions then ask! If you want to help me then you can share one of my videos and help me spread the word with your recommendation 😊

[@musicalexcursions]

No questions. I've already subscribed. We could all use the support.

[@JensLarsen]

Musical Excursions Thx!

[@urbachd]

Jens, I'm having some trouble understanding how you find your avoid notes. In the key of C, I think I understand that in the Dm7 the B would be the avoid note because of the augmented 4th between F and B (am I right that this is the reason?), but I don't get why C would be the avoid note in the G7(b9). I guess I need more explanation of how you find avoid notes. The explanations I find on the web are all about just the major keys. Thanks, as always.

[@JensLarsen]

On a major chord the 4th is always an avoid note, that's why the C is an avoid note on G7 (because it is also a major chord)

[@tuomas3964]

Or you can use it as an nice note to approach the 3rd from above...

[@禺囸]

well, there are actually no void notes in dorian

[@luigicapola9373]

he jens can you tell which reverb & dly you use & how to set the knobs ? your sound is beautifull tku !!!

[@JensLarsen]

Hi Luigi! I talk about the way setup in this video and I think I also go over the delay settings that I am using in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/paOtaWqrptBmq7c Let me know if you don't find it!

[@luigicapola9373]

tku so so much for your answer I`ll check it out & let you know.

[@JensLarsen]

luigi capola Perfect! :)

[@chancho9965]

Hello Jen and first of all let me thank you for your lessons! They are appreciated. Now for my question: in your 2nd ex you started off by playing an F maj arpeggios over the D min, I don't understand how you came up with that

[@JensLarsen]

Thanks Adelmo! I have a really old video on the topic here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6DcYX9mm5x8ms0 If you have trouble with that concept then Triad Pairs are maybe a bit tricky :)

[@tomavidor7911]

Thankyou

[@michaelcraig9449]

This ol' boy is chock full of ideas..

[@Zager-recap]

Hello Jens, i have a question, are the triad pairs a concept of jazz improvisation derived from triadic superimposition and extended tertian structures??? I'm learning à theory jazz book from Bert Ligon and i'm not sure if i'm in the right way to learn the foundation and origin of triad pairs.Thank you for your vidéos and help.

[@JensLarsen]

I don't really know where they come from in terms of theory. I only know it as a widely used melodic device and when I used I don't really feel the need to explain it, as long as I can use it to make good melodies with. Does that make sense?

[@bokbok6676]

One thing I struggle with is the rythm of the melody or feeling the rythm when I improvise. I listen to the bass and drums but sometimes they are not inspiring. Sometimes it doesn't matter and I can do it regardless. Are there some basic tips for what I should listen out for when I am not feeling it. It is most satisfying when we lock in and feed off each other.

[@JensLarsen]

Are you talking about whether you are locking in with the groove or about the rhythms you play? :)

[@bokbok6676]

@@JensLarsen locking in with the groove while soloing. Sometimes the rythm is not inspiring...sometimes I can inspire the rythm. If I play with a really hot rythm section I can play a single note and sound great.

[@JensLarsen]

Ok. I think a lot of it is having a really strong sense of subdivision. For example : try to record yourself soloing with a backing track in a DAW and listen to how you sound with out the backing track. If you can getto sound really good with out the track then you are good, and if the rhythm section suckstyou can't fix that 🙂

[@bokbok6676]

Haha love it Jen's thanks.

[@raktim369]

Why did we only omit the note B from the the chord Dm why not E or G...or it's just 1 example?

[@JensLarsen]

Because of the context. In a II V, the job of the Dm7 is to delay the B until G7.

[@raktim369]

@@JensLarsen thanks for replying Sir...If I use the vocabulary of the chords and use triads with no common notes will that be ok? Like I mean seeing the notes in chords literally before forming the pair?

[@JensLarsen]

@@raktim369 I don't know what you mean?

[@railcar123]

Nice lesson Jens. That guitar is a "note cannon". Is that an L-7?

[@JensLarsen]

Thanks! It is a 50's ES175 :)

[@railcar123]

@@JensLarsen you make that guitar really sound beautiful.

[@obus4186]

Listening to jazz solos I've noticed the improviser using non-chord tones on the downbeat, the 4th/11th is used frequently. It seems like this occurs as much as the use of chord tones. I also find structures that are obviously some type of substitution but I'm not able to find any reference to what I think they were thinking. For instance, Aeolian or Dorian one whole step below Dominant chord.

[@JensLarsen]

I wouldn't try to play jazz after rules that are so simple, and probably modes is not a good tool to describe most jazz solos 🙂

[@jazzis4u1]

Think you’re a very good player. Like your videos a lot. But not sure why you, especially you, would consider B an avoid note on D-7. I love the sound of it in jazz. Not quite in or out. Just a very interesting color in my opinion.

[@JensLarsen]

Because of how the Dm7 sits in the progression most of the time. And I doubt that I actually call it an avoid note 🙂

[@kylefloros]

Hi, around 7:30 you know to play C harmonic minor over G7 flat 9. I have some disconnect there. How should I go about learning those relationships. Just by Googling "what scales can I play over [some chord type]" and experimenting? Or is there a "system" out there to come up with that? Thanks

[@JensLarsen]

Well if you know your scales and the diatonic chords then you could ask yourself: In what scales can I find a G7(b9). In general you want to learn to understand the basic harmony related to the major and minor keys. I don't have any resources on that because I learnt it at the Conservatory, but I am sure you can find it if you look.

[@modalbackingtracks7546]

great answer ! keep on the good job !

[@Alfierocks1109]

5th time watching this vid, getting there slowly :D. not as bad as some of Rick beato's video's though, i have to watch those about fifty times before i understand any of it. great vid tho man!

[@JensLarsen]

Thank you Alfie! Great that you stick with it like that! You can always ask if something is unclear!

[@Alfierocks1109]

@@JensLarsen thanks man, i will. none of it is unclear though, just take me a few watches to wrap my head around fully. i was wondering though, when you're going to improvise with these triad pairs do u pre conceive what pairs you will use for certain chords before u start playing or do you just choose the pair during your improvisation?

[@JensLarsen]

@@Alfierocks1109 Yes, I have figured out what sounds I like with what chord and then practiced how to use that

[@Alfierocks1109]

@@JensLarsen ahhh thats great man thank you !

[@michaelcraig9449]

What is :D? It looks :Dumb to write like this :Dummmy

[@CosmicHobo2]

So I'm trying to get my head around this. Dm7 has A as the third which is only a half step from the B and that causes unpleasant dissonance. And therefore the only triads available in the key of C are C and D? F isn't suitable because it isn't a half-step from F and obviously shares notes etc which really limits the choices. Is there a list of paired triads or just ordinary triads available that lists which ones are suitable? If paired triads are as melodic and useful as they sound, I'm wondering why so many people just use scales.

[@JensLarsen]

A is the third of Dm7? No, not really ☺️

[@CosmicHobo2]

Jens Larsen Oops! Meant the fifth, blaming predictive text there. I'll try some more of your lessons and see if I can get my head around it. Thanks.

[@JensLarsen]

You can also try and check the article on my website, there's a link in the description. That might be a more calm way to check out the info?

[@chancho9965]

Hi again Jen What's the name of the triad exercise book you mentioned?

[@JensLarsen]

+Adelmo Dictter George Van Eps Harmonic Mechanisms probably?

[@ValirAmaril]

2019, everyone talking about triad pairs

[@JensLarsen]

This video is from 2015 through 🙂

[@michaelcraig9449]

The year dont have a fuckin thing to do with it!! Django did this in the 30's, fuckin Beethoven did it in 1800..You think this shit is new? WTF, sonny get a grip!

[@ValirAmaril]

@@michaelcraig9449 not saying it's new, rather, it's become this massive trend, triad pairs and negative harmony (which also isn't new)

[@clifftaylor6864]

That's Swedish for, "How are you"...anyway nice playing.

[@JensLarsen]

+Cliff TAYLOR Thank you, sorry I didn't get it 😁

[@clifftaylor6864]

Hur mor du!

[@JensLarsen]

Sorry?

[@clifftaylor6864]

My Grandparents are Danish but my Swedish is better!

[@JensLarsen]

Fair enough! I wasn't sure what you meant and didn't really expect Swedish! I appreciate the effort though!

[@richardpaite9481]

pls dont go fast i cant see your finger move...hahahaha

[@JensLarsen]

You can slow down the video 🙂

[@saroonkantas9624]

How do you decide which note to throw out when choosing a triad pair? Just by the sound of it?

[@JensLarsen]

It's a free choice, but you could go for a note that doesn't work with the chord?