(258) The Archer Class (Starfleet's Lil Scrapper!)

In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Archer Class, from the Star Trek: Vanguard Novel Series and the FASA Manuals... I hope you enjoy!
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[@ericmadsen7470]

No matter what you put on your channel pertaining to ST it will be worth a watch. For instance the Archer Class. {Starfleet's Lil Scrapper!]

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thank you Eric!

[@sjTHEfirst]

The PT Boat of Starfleet. McHale’s Navy in space.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Lol something like that :)

[@ShinyaKogamiawesome]

I forgot how much I missed the Vanguard books! I hope they are an Audible or the like to listen to them again

[@asildur6088]

They are on Audible in German🤷‍♂

[@georgesulea]

Truly, a great and "plucky" classic ship:)

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Absolutely!

[@daviddyster4145]

This class would have a be useful at the Balance of Terror event.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Any other ships adding to the BofT event would have been useful/ helpful!

[@daviddyster4145]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I would be a great what if video of Star Trek history

[@defiantance]

The U.S.S. Defiant's Grand Daddy.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

In a way, yes!

[@thomassalois3508]

I would love to see the deck plans of this class😊

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Wouldn't we all? ;)

[@stantonvalberg9814]

There are deck plans to this ship. Not hard to find.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

All available deck plans are FAN created, rather than Beta Canon, and thus are meaningless! We're talking official plans! Which can not be found!

[@HMSVanguard46]

Excellent work as always :)

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thank you! :)

[@andrewpyrah]

Can I second that. Love the info, creativity and nice relaxed format. 🖖

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Awww thank you Andrew :)

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly wonderfully well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the Archer Class starship's (Starfleets little Scraper), A job very nicely fabulously well done indeed Sir!👌.

[@dominik8005]

love you video and the Archer Class

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thanks Dom, I love this little scrapper!

[@dominik8005]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics No Problem

[@Arms872]

Love this class as well as the book series that introduced it

[@Isteak80]

It's like the space equivalent of a submarine in terms of how austere and cramped it is.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Yes and I love it!

[@johnfitzgeraldii1952]

Starfleet Security Vessel

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Indeed

[@andrewmalinowski6673]

​@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComicsSomehow that response made me think of Teal'c in "Stargate: SG-1" as that almost became his go-to response, ever see the franchise?

[@mythherd11]

Love to see this ship on Star Trek Legacy. The Enterprise gets into trouble, and three Archers come up from the planet and kicks butt!!!

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

By my calculations, the saucer section is almost exactly the same size as the Millenium Falcon! I'm surprised the only built 200, this class looks tailormade to be churned out by the thousand on a production line. It's got to have a gross mass of only a couple of thousand tons.

[@splashpit]

You are wondering why they only fictionally made 200 ?

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

A COMPLETELY valid question from StainlessSteelFox! And my guess would be, more were simply not needed! As Starfleet could protect itself using these and all the other vessels it had! They werent at war after all!

[@johnfitzgeraldii1952]

This Ship was run like a Submarine

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

And I love it!

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

"all information should be taken with a grain of spacedust" had me rolling!!! 🤣

[@dramonmaster222]

Small but packs a punch.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Indeed it does!

[@Willpower-74205]

It'd be nice if someone would write a dedicated story about life aboard an Archer-class ship, beyond the Vanguard arc. They could even begin the story with a preamble: "Just sit right back and I'll tell a tale. A tale of a fateful trip. That started at a starbase port, aboard this tiny ship." Then again, that might be a bit too derivative. In any case, I've always thought that the Archers were....well, cute. Plus, with some stealth technology they might make for good recon scouts in contested regions of space. 🖖😎👍

[@joelreyes4886]

AAAAHHHH THIS IS MY FAVORITE CLASS!!!!! Thanks for making a video for it 😊

[@JeremyBuxman]

When you need a hero ship for your PC's. I love the idea, but it always feels like "what's its operational range?" "about 90 minutes".

[@chrismarcellus6933]

My Star Trek gaming group use the Archer for our ship!

[@hunter-in-the-shadows]

"hay star fleet. star fleet. HAY STAR FLEET!" "what?!?" "danger zooooone..."

[@TrentonBennett]

You did an awesome job as usual. This is a fun little design. I could imagine the officers complaining about food being reconstituted. Too bad there just wasn't food synthesizers on board like other Federation ships. I find it interesting that you add for a ship this size rank and protocol would be pretty much dismissed. I can see that happening. In fact a Star Trek fan fic I'm working on the ship called the Valor's Edge while it's 20 decks tall a little bigger than Voyager pretty much the crew has been working together for so many years that they mostly call each other by their first names. My fan fic takes place in a slightly alternate reality. Where Voyager got home almost right after the Dominion War kicked off. Also thanks to Voyager Starfleet were able to make slipstream drives much sooner than established in games and such.

[@johntate1360]

I love the tos ships this ship is awesome ❤❤

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thank you!

[@yakamarezlife]

Hell yeah my boy may have not gotten a full series but he damn sure got a ship class

[@ericmadsen7470]

If you were given command of any TOS class ship what would it be?

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

There are SOOOOO many I love, it's impossible to choose!

[@SilverAranda]

compact, ágil, and can pack a punch.... tough little ship, where had I listen something similar?

[@XHunter442]

TY for the video and LLAP!

[@Robb403]

I hope the crew members weren't calling each other 'Bro'. I couldn't image a fate worse than being trapped in a little ship in deep space with a bunch of 'Bros'. I'd mutiny after the first week.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Lol no, not bro, just everybody seemed to be named Robb... Hey Robb, What's up Robb, What does God need with a starship Robb?...

[@kingofmonsters14]

Star Trek's Millennium Falcon

[@andrewmalinowski6673]

Love the design, the history sounds great, but the mentions of her confined status and "reconstitued" food remind me of the NX-class but with a crew compliment 2x that of an F-class shuttlecraft. The reconstituted food line immediately reminded me of both the protein resequencer from the NX-class and Adm. Vance's like to Osira about the food being cr4p; "You're people have a crude colloqualism." "No, it's reconsituted $h!t." Osira: almost gaags

[@Mapper2]

It would make a great commando drop ship if the M.A.C.O's were still around... Good amount of Art of this little beast on DeviantArt...

[@andrewmalinowski6673]

Saw a design on either PDSmith's or Euderion's DA gallery. She looks like the only Starfleet vessel actually designed to land on a planet, almost like a giant shuttlecraft and DA was definitely my introduction to this tiny little vessel

[@lycanmotions]

They should've kept one ship for the fleet museum

[@sirjanin]

I think you could make a video about the vesta class next, or about the emmett till

[@dls1970]

My FAVORITE all-around Starfleet vessel class. 🫡

[@Obssy]

Cool ship

[@FlaminScott-o6k]

It's so cute. Like PUG cute, like shih tzu terrier cute. Like Terry Cruise cute.... 😂

[@yrokelyod3471]

One of my favorite ships. I just wished you'd shown it with the landing gear up.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

The model is what the model is, thus your complaint is with the Original 3d Modeler and your grievances should be directed at him!

[@Grandtemplar1191]

We going to see a Refit Archer model?

[@marcmanalli]

I want to take this ship camping! How much latinum to buy one refurbished ?! Gotta install replicators though. Oh and upgraded emergency transporter in case of Mugatu attack when roasting marsh melons.

[@canis2020]

Do you make any of these models? They all look well done but with the shots its obviously not stock.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I'm not a 3d Modeler, though I do create a lot of Starship designs through Kitbashing models together! I get models given to me by channel fans but have also collected them over the past 20 or so years! Once I have the 3d Model in Blender, I redo the textures so they can be used in 4K, then export the model with the textures into Space Engine and film the video clips!

[@canis2020]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics that's awesome. I dig the little flavor bits you add and I kinda want to start trying to 3d design things. Never done it before but why the hell not. Just found out about a site called Fractal sponge from a buddy of mine and it just looks so cathartic

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Thank you! And yes, that's how I learned, saying to myself, there's never enough stock clips of all these weird classes out there to make videos... And so I found a way to make them myself! :)

[@georgejcox9241]

This is the little ship that can..... Kick your teeth in.

[@edwardbell4928]

It should noted that the ARCHER-class's main landing struts do retract so the pads are flush against the hull and the support struts are covered by those doors. I don't believe they were extended during normal flight operations. They also had a large egress ramp that was in the after portion of the ventral saucer hull. These were very cramped...when you figure in the warp core placement, the antimatter and deuterium storage, life support and weapon systems, and the impulse reactors, everything else was stored in corridor bulkheads and tucked away. It would have been very much like being on a sub. Wasn't this a Bill Krause design or did he just do the cut aways for it?

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

3d Models are as 3d models are! Also, no, this is a Masao Okazaki design!

[@edwardbell4928]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics don't get me wrong she looks great...and Masso was going to be my second guess. Do love the channel 😁

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

No problem, just in future Id request you ask about the model before making assumptions that I forgot or didn't bother to do the obvious! Lol Im not a 3d Modeler, and sometimes, like with this one, the Original Modeler doesnt allow for any modifications to their 3d Model making it impossible for me to retract the struts! I can only do, what I can do :)

[@theMaDNesS201]

i thought it was named for Henry Archer, not John. because the original timeline of the ship has it coming into service while he was still alive, or even president of the fed, and it was to honor the warp 5 engine or something, J was very against anything being named after him. funny all this prequel stuff comes from the simple mention of the planet Archer 4 in a tng episode, lol. but great vid as always man

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Uhhhh no, everything you just said is wrong, primary of which being this class came out 100+ years after Henrys Death, and 20 years after Jonathans disappearance... Not even sure where you'd get any of those ideas in your comment as Beta Canon doesn't say any of that anywhere...

[@theMaDNesS201]

nvm, ignore me, the uss Saggi, archer class, my brain just fubared all kinds of information having to do with that, i however will not delete my comment and let it stand as a monument of my shame.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

LOL all good, we all make mistakes now and then! Trust me, with all these ships Im doing all the time, it's hard to remember every little detail on the fly!

[@theMaDNesS201]

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics oh i tend to consider myself well into the know when it comes to star trek, but i might have to go back and reread those books, haha.

[@blairbrown4812]

3:23 The Starfleet equivalent of the Klingon B'rel class bird of prey, in terms of intended function and operational crew.

[@cernstormrunner7263]

i love the Archer. I would like to see a TNG era version. I guess that would be the Nova?

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

No, the Nova Class is a much larger vessel!

[@marioaguilar6306]

Avanzada para su época pero débil para los Klinos y los romurianos

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

No es exactamente débil contra los klingon o los romulanos!

[@kineuhansen8629]

i would have moved the dish into the saucher class not the best design they could have made for a ship named after the captain archer

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

I wouldnt have! I think it's perfect as is, showing that technology of the time couldnt put it in the Saucer!

[@CarlHardiman-jc7br]

Ohhhh.....just to be an ensign , on border an ARCHER class ,(GUN BOAT)😳🤨🥴😖😵......LLP!!!

[@thomassalois3508]

They should do a TV series on one of this class😊

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Ive often thought about that myself :)

[@marcmanalli]

Agreed.

[@The1ReviewBoard]

This would be a hell raiser if it had a cloaking device.

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Oh it would, unfortunately, treaties prevent that :(

[@arm514ve5]

I would love to see a refit styled archer class

[@oldtimefarmboy617]

Bigger ships are always better for long range long term missions. Humans need the room and conveniences that bigger ships can provide. But when it comes to defensive and offensive combat operations, smaller and faster and nimbler and hard hitting ships are always better. The Spanish found that out the hard way when their large war ships took on the smaller English war ships in the English Channel and were decisively routed and only a handful survived to tell the story. And the American PT boats were the scourge of the Japanese fleet and in total might have sunk more military and commercial ships by number and tonnage than American ships of the line.

[@georgeflansburg]

One of my favorites! ❤

[@sarreqteryx]

this looks like it could be the TOS era equivalent of a Runabout

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Sort of, but not really... It's much bigger and not geared towards any scientific duties!

[@raymondsims537]

what replaced it?

[@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics]

Nothing replaced it as such, just other classes like the Kaplan 17 were developed!